toys Toys&Love LE & SE

[BigOnes69]

2 hours ago, Foxcrest said:

Tried out Toys for the first time. It's way cleaner and better than Devious Devices. Unfortunately, too many mods rely on DD right now for full functionality =( . Thanks for all of the sick modding you do VirginMarie.

I think you will see some mods and modders converting. I know Zaira has said he will use toys for his newer mods. Other Newer mods will probably go the toys route for the support it offers. I currently have both but will give up DD when given the choice.

[VirginMarie]

9 hours ago, Foxcrest said:

Tried out Toys for the first time. It's way cleaner and better than Devious Devices. Unfortunately, too many mods rely on DD right now for full functionality =( . Thanks for all of the sick modding you do VirginMarie.

 

Fortunately, Toys&Love runs along with the legacy frameworks, and plays nice. Not just DD. It's an alternative to SL too. You can use each together, get the benefits where possible, and not give up your favorite quest mods. Love Scene FAQs

 

7 hours ago, monty359 said:

Hi @VirginMarie, Great work!

 

You are surely have your hands full with the mods you are already maintaining. But i still have to ask of you, if you could take a look at the mods:

 

SL Solutions SE

SL Confabulations

 

How complicated would it be to create a patch for those mods, in order to use them with T&L framework?

If it is a easy thing, would you create the patches?

 

There are lots of quest mods out there, that are not maintained anymore, but still working. I tried a load order with only T&L and without SL mods, but i miss lots of quest mods.

 

Thanks!

 

 

My plan is to continue polishing and adding useful features to the existing mods I've done, while being very careful not to bloat them. I cannot take on new mods.

 

But other authors reading here might become inspired and see your request.

 

If someone took on Solutions, I'd suggest you don't "patch". That mod has open permission to entirely adopt it. You would update it, strip what it no longer needs. Make it a new mod.

Edited November 7, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Ludwigsec]

Apologies if this has been answered.

I am getting a critical error from wildlife and the toys framework in the mcm shows a skse error and that im running LE.

I double checked to see if all of the requirement mods are updated and they are (unless i missed something) Im running the latest skyrim AE version.

also provided a screenshot of the mods i downloaded in case i fucked up there

Papyrus.0.log Load Order.txt

[VirginMarie]

52 minutes ago, Ludwigsec said:

Apologies if this has been answered.

I am getting a critical error from wildlife and the toys framework in the mcm shows a skse error and that im running LE.

I double checked to see if all of the requirement mods are updated and they are (unless i missed something) Im running the latest skyrim AE version.

also provided a screenshot of the mods i downloaded in case i fucked up there

Papyrus.0.log 473.64 kB · 0 downloads Load Order.txt 6.63 kB · 0 downloads

 

Toys&Love makes a request to SKSE, asking it to report its version.

If there is no response, it will show the red ERROR.

By default, it shows LE. The LE is irrelevant in this case since there was no response.

 

SKSE is not running, or for some reason can't respond. Simple as that.

Your log shows that things can't run at all, as expected. This problem goes far beyond WildLife or Toys&Love. Nothing can work if it needs SKSE.

 

You will have to figure out why SKSE is not responding.

If you are using vortex, Purge and redeploy.

Edited November 7, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Ludwigsec]

1 hour ago, Ludwigsec said:

Apologies if this has been answered.

I am getting a critical error from wildlife and the toys framework in the mcm shows a skse error and that im running LE.

I double checked to see if all of the requirement mods are updated and they are (unless i missed something) Im running the latest skyrim AE version.

also provided a screenshot of the mods i downloaded in case i fucked up there

Papyrus.0.log 473.64 kB · 1 download Load Order.txt 6.63 kB · 1 download

Everything seems to work if i disable wildlife

[Ludwigsec]

23 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Toys&Love makes a request to SKSE, asking it to report its version.

If there is no response, it will show the red ERROR.

By default, it shows LE. The LE is irrelevant in this case since there was no response.

 

SKSE is not running, or for some reason can't respond. Simple as that.

Your log shows that things can't run at all, as expected. This problem goes far beyond WildLife or Toys&Love. Nothing can work if it needs SKSE.

 

You will have to figure out why SKSE is not responding.

If you are using vortex, Purge and redeploy.

Sorry i missed your reply.

Purging and redeploying doesn't fix it

[VirginMarie]

8 minutes ago, Ludwigsec said:

Everything seems to work if i disable wildlife

 

To be sure about that, you'd run the Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab - Installation test

 

Changing anything in your load order can change startup & initiation with SkyUI. Disabling Wildlife might hint that it's about that (SKSE could not respond because things are "stuck"). Similar to the common case where people have mod MCMs not showing up.

 

Use this...  Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

[Ludwigsec]

11 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

To be sure about that, you'd run the Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab - Installation test

 

Changing anything in your load order can change startup & initiation with SkyUI. Disabling Wildlife might hint that it's about that (SKSE could not respond because things are "stuck"). Similar to the common case where people have mod MCMs not showing up.

 

Use this...  Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

Yes i ran the installation test it played an animation i got hint pop ups an arousal meter the halo from shout like a virgin etc.

I also did everything in that guide beforehand

Edited November 7, 2022 by Ludwigsec

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Ludwigsec said:

Yes i ran the installation test it played an animation i got hint pop ups an arousal meter the halo from shout like a virgin etc.

I also did everything in that guide beforehand

 

It's not caused by WildLife specifically, otherwise you'd not be the first and only one reporting it.

• If you want to use WildLife, then re-enable it, and do the steps in that guide again, as many of them need to repeat when setup changed
• You might try moving Toys&Love or WildLife lower or higher in your load order. Like for example moving one or both to Early Loaders Group, or Late Loaders
• If vortex auto sort has been disabled, you may need to tell it to re-sort

[Ludwigsec]

24 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

It's not caused by WildLife specifically, otherwise you'd not be the first and only one reporting it.

• If you want to use WildLife, then re-enable it, and do the steps in that guide again, as many of them need to repeat when setup changed
• You might try moving Toys&Love or WildLife lower or higher in your load order. Like for example moving one or both to Early Loaders Group, or Late Loaders
• If vortex auto sort has been disabled, you may need to tell it to re-sort

I messed with the load orders i reinstalled the mods and the requirements and wildlife still reports that toys and love is the incorrect version.

Im currently trying a fresh new install

[cascen]

hi seems the latest jcointaner doesnt work with toy love ,i have popup windiw in new game tellin me that.

[Ludwigsec]

1 hour ago, Ludwigsec said:

I messed with the load orders i reinstalled the mods and the requirements and wildlife still reports that toys and love is the incorrect version.

Im currently trying a fresh new install

well after wiping everything and starting from scratch the same problem persist wildlife refuses to work.

Guess im cursed, will continue without it.

Thank you for your time and assistance

[VirginMarie]

43 minutes ago, cascen said:

hi seems the latest jcointaner doesnt work with toy love ,i have popup windiw in new game tellin me that.

 

No. I use latest JContainers with latest AE and it works fine.

But using the latest, without latest Skyrim and SKSE would be bad.

 

 

You get this exact pop up message?
Toys&Love Install ERROR: Can't initialize Love Scenes. Forgot to install JContainers? Or its wrong version?

If so, then at least one of these is true:

1. JContainers is not installed correctly
2. Wrong version of JContainers  SE versus AE Version Trap
3. Maybe not starting a new game when it needs to be  do I really need to start a new game?
4. infamous SkyUI bug  Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

Check the links. Share your Papyrus Log, recreating the problem, if none of them help. How to get a Papyrus Log?

Edited November 8, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Talesien]

32 minutes ago, Ludwigsec said:

well after wiping everything and starting from scratch the same problem persist wildlife refuses to work.

Guess im cursed, will continue without it.

Thank you for your time and assistance

Shouldn't really matter if you got the correct SKSE Version, but just to make sure. You are using the latest AE version from Steam? Or the GoG version?

[Ludwigsec]

1 minute ago, Talesien said:

Shouldn't really matter if you got the correct SKSE Version, but just to make sure. You are using the latest AE version from Steam? Or the GoG version?

 

Steam

[CChuggers]

So after I select the Toys & Love option in the MCM (or any mod that relies on it) it does not load the mods configuration menu and if i exit and reopen my entire MCM menu disppears

[VirginMarie]

5 hours ago, CChuggers said:

So after I select the Toys & Love option in the MCM (or any mod that relies on it) it does not load the mods configuration menu and if i exit and reopen my entire MCM menu disppears

 

It's the infamous SkyUI bug. Use this Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

 

I'd be curious to know which "trick" in there worked for you.

[cascen]

hi marie i ma same person who posted on nexus about jcointaner popup window about love scene not running,here the log .thx i nadvance

Papyrus.0.log

[VirginMarie]

19 minutes ago, cascen said:

hi marie i ma same person who posted on nexus about jcointaner popup window about love scene not running,here the log .thx i nadvance

Papyrus.0.log 490.78 kB · 2 downloads

 

Log clearly shows that...

JContainers is either... not installed... not able to run... or the wrong version.

 

The log shows that every call Toys&Love makes to JC is failing.

Same for SL Animation loader... same problem. So, it's not just Toys&Love. Try using SL Animation Loader... it will fail too.

 

I've already given you all the info I can give. I will restate the key parts...

• Latest JContainers with latest AE works fine
• Using the latest JContainers, without latest Skyrim and SKSE would be a fail
• I suspect you upgraded JC but are NOT using latest Skyrim and SKSE OR it's the other way around

read for more detail SE versus AE Version Trap

[cascen]

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Log clearly shows that...

JContainers is either... not installed... not able to run... or the wrong version.

 

The log shows that every call Toys&Love makes to JC is failing.

Same for SL Animation loader... same problem. So, it's not just Toys&Love. Try using SL Animation Loader... it will fail too.

 

I've already given you all the info I can give. I will restate the key parts...

• Latest JContainers with latest AE works fine
• Using the latest JContainers, without latest Skyrim and SKSE would be a fail
• I suspect you upgraded JC but are NOT using latest Skyrim and SKSE OR it's the other way around

read for more detail SE versus AE Version Trap

hmmm not sure my skse 2.2.3 skyrim 1.64 AE with all dlc fish etc etc jcontainer is latest 4.23,i have reinstalled everything from scratch this is new log if u have time and patience,can u tell me if is now working as intended

Papyrus.1.log

Edited November 8, 2022 by cascen

[CChuggers]

6 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

It's the infamous SkyUI bug. Use this Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

 

I'd be curious to know which "trick" in there worked for you.

I tried all those but none of them seemed to have resolved the issue

[VirginMarie]

19 minutes ago, CChuggers said:

I tried all those but none of them seemed to have resolved the issue

 

Find out at what point you are overloading your startup by using process of elimination. 

There's a whole lot of installation issues that can be at play here and only you can sort that out.

It might be something worse than just the SkyUI bug.

 

If you are using Vortex, try Purge and Redeploy first. If not Vortex, maybe some other form of reinstalling things.

I'm assuming you are starting a new game. It's in that article so I'm sure you are.

 

Process of elimination can start where you get Toys&Love working by installing with only its minimum requirements.

Then you start adding from there, bit by bit, till it breaks. Starting a new game each step.

Never assume the last mod you added, is a bad mod or the cause. SkyUI bug is triggered by overall load, not any one mod. Most other problems are like that too.

Edited November 8, 2022 by VirginMarie

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, cascen said:

hmmm not sure my skse 2.2.3 skyrim 1.64 AE with all dlc fish etc etc jcontainer is latest 4.23,i have reinstalled everything from scratch this is new log if u have time and patience,can u tell me if is now working as intended

Papyrus.1.log 490.78 kB · 0 downloads

 

You ninja edited this log in... almost did not see the change. In future suggest you use a new post.

 

The 2 logs are identical. You gave me a duplicate. No point in my looking.

When it makes a new log, the previous log renames to Papyrus1, so that was my first clue.

 

If you DO get me a new log, it should be for a new game and...

• Please tell me exactly what you have done differently, otherwise no point in my looking, if nothing changed. Help me to help you, by giving details
• Please confirm if you are getting the pop message and tell me exactly what the message says... Screenshot would be even better
• The log should be for the game session where you saw the message, not just a random log

[cascen]

11 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

You ninja edited this log in... almost did not see the change. In future suggest you use a new post.

 

The 2 logs are identical. You gave me a duplicate. No point in my looking.

When it makes a new log, the previous log renames to Papyrus1, so that was my first clue.

 

If you DO get me a new log, it should be for a new game and...

• Please tell me exactly what you have done differently, otherwise no point in my looking, if nothing changed. Help me to help you, by giving details
• Please confirm if you are getting the pop message and tell me exactly what the message says... Screenshot would be even better
• The log should be for the game session where you saw the message, not just a random log

sorry i am tot noob about these things as u seen,annyway everything is working i think it was related with slal version i had the one for le not se lmao and old version of framework creature,i run the testing scene w/o any prob and the mods loo ksuper smooth and promising,thx 4 your time Maria.

[VirginMarie]

22 minutes ago, cascen said:

sorry i am tot noob about these things as u seen,annyway everything is working i think it was related with slal version i had the one for le not se lmao and old version of framework creature,i run the testing scene w/o any prob and the mods loo ksuper smooth and promising,thx 4 your time Maria.

 

SLAL version cannot be the cause. Does not need to be installed for Toys&Love. Something else you changed fixed it.

 

But glad the problem is gone. Go misbehave with your toys now