toys Toys&Love LE & SE

[VirginMarie]

Added package for Mod authors

 

SkyUI Widget Source (for mod Authors)

 

This makes it easy to get a few files you need, if opening properties (for example: when making a Toy box), or compiling with calls to Toys&Love functions.

 

Its explained in the 2nd section of Toys&Love - Mod Author's Documentation

Which is also referenced by Toy Box Authoring

[Clea Strange]

I have no idea if this would go here. So sorry in advance on this

 

I have a toybinder equipped and when I enter in combat instead of attacking with my feet. I end up attacking with my hands like this in the screen shot. Though when not in combat my arms stay bound like they should be.

 

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[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Clea Strange said:

I have no idea if this would go here. So sorry in advance on this

 

I have a toybinder equipped and when I enter in combat instead of attacking with my feet. I end up attacking with my hands like this in the screen shot. Though when not in combat my arms stay bound like they should be.

 

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Looks like you are doing Toy Story. But the question is about Toys&Love Effects, so you are in the right place. I'd not care either way  

 

2 types off Bindings in Toys&Love...  (also explained in section 16 of Toys&Love - Features )

1. Magical Wrist Bindings - they let you break out and do combat like normal, and you also get freed if you sprint, and some other things
2. Arm Binding - They don't release you, and you will kick for combat

In addition, the MCM lets you set a chance where Magical Wrist Bindings become "hardcore". In that mode they behave like Arm Binding. You get a combo of both

• You did not name the toy you are wearing, but I'd guess its using Magical Wrist Bindings, thus working as intended
• If its the Curio Restored Cuffs, they will "melt" on high rousing, and when melted they become "Arm Binding"
• You can see what effects are on any toy using Toys&Love MCM - Worn Toys - click a toy to see the detail view. The description on the toy may tell you too

Edited August 15, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Clea Strange]

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Looks like you are doing Toy Story. But the question is about Toys&Love Effects, so you are in the right place. I'd not care either way  

 

2 types off Bindings in Toys&Love...  (also explained in section 16 of Toys&Love - Features )

1. Magical Wrist Bindings - they let you break out and do combat like normal, and you also get freed if you sprint, and some other things
2. Arm Binding - They don't release you, and you will kick for combat

In addition, the MCM lets you set a chance where Magical Wrist Bindings become "hardcore". In that mode they behave like Arm Binding. You get a combo of both

• You did not name the toy you are wearing, but I'd guess its using Magical Wrist Bindings, thus working as intended
• If its the Curio Restored Cuffs, they will "melt" on high rousing, and when melted they become "Arm Binding"
• You can see what effects are on any toy using Toys&Love MCM - Worn Toys - click a toy to see the detail view. The description on the toy may tell you too

 

This is way late reply but its the binder that you get from night sister when you go to the love stone after reading the book from the scholar.

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, Clea Strange said:

 

This is way late reply but its the binder that you get from night sister when you go to the love stone after reading the book from the scholar.

 

Yup, its the one I assumed and named above. Working as intended. Hopefully my explanation helped?

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, Clea Strange said:

 

This is way late reply but its the binder that you get from night sister when you go to the love stone after reading the book from the scholar.

 

Yup, its the one I assumed and named above. Working as intended. Hopefully my explanation helped?

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi I just install the latest version of your mod. It is a wonderful mod and the idea of two people forced to connect their mind together is great.

 

I just encounter a strange bug, after a certain progress of the mod, my PC just keep being killed by the script. (the PC is killed without a reason, as no one attack the PC). I also install the latest SLAV, and with the death alternative from SLAV, my PC is in the process of being killed, then immediately resurrect, then being killed again immediately and then being resurrect again. I never encounter this kind of bug before, no sure what I did wrong.

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi I just install the latest version of your mod. It is a wonderful mod and the idea of two people forced to connect their mind together is great.

 

I just encounter a strange bug, after a certain progress of the mod, my PC just keep being killed by the script. (the PC is killed without a reason, as no one attack the PC). I also install the latest SLAV, and with the death alternative from SLAV, my PC is in the process of being killed, then immediately resurrect, then being killed again immediately and then being resurrect again. I never encounter this kind of bug before, no sure what I did wrong.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi I just install the latest version of your mod. It is a wonderful mod and the idea of two people forced to connect their mind together is great.

 

I just encounter a strange bug, after a certain progress of the mod, my PC just keep being killed by the script. (the PC is killed without a reason, as no one attack the PC). I also install the latest SLAV, and with the death alternative from SLAV, my PC is in the process of being killed, then immediately resurrect, then being killed again immediately and then being resurrect again. I never encounter this kind of bug before, no sure what I did wrong.

 

Need to be more specific on exactly when this is happening. The only clue you've given me is two people forced to connect their mind together, which would Toy Story. But you also mention SLaVE.

 

Are you wearing a toy, maybe from SLaVE, that has the Harm Health Effect? How to know.... go to Toys&Love MCM - Worn Toys tab - click on a toy for the Detail View (maybe a collar from SLaVE?). There you can see the effects. This is the only thing I can think of, and maybe another mod is in use that is making the health too low to handle this, but Toys has safeguards to prevent this being a problem, so I'm not sure its anything at all to do with that. If you could be far more specific on exactly when this happens...

[zwdragonbone8314]

16 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Need to be more specific on exactly when this is happening. The only clue you've given me is two people forced to connect their mind together, which would Toy Story. But you also mention SLaVE.

 

Are you wearing a toy, maybe from SLaVE, that has the Harm Health Effect? How to know.... go to Toys&Love MCM - Worn Toys tab - click on a toy for the Detail View (maybe a collar from SLaVE?). There you can see the effects. This is the only thing I can think of, and maybe another mod is in use that is making the health too low to handle this, but Toys has safeguards to prevent this being a problem, so I'm not sure its anything at all to do with that. If you could be far more specific on exactly when this happens...

Hi, sorry, yes I encounter this bug when playing Toy Story. I should have placed this in Toy Story instead of here. I cannot say exactly when this is happen as I try several play run and each time happen quite radomly but almost all happen in the middle of the game. Yes I also play SLAV at the same time but when I first encounter this bug, I have not yet install the SLAV. Also when health is decrease, it is the maximum amount of health decrease, the health it self appears to be full until some time the maximum amount of health becomes negative, which my PC die. It seen that every time when my PC have orgasm, the maximum health decrease, and as my PC has multiply spontaneous orgasms, it keeps decreasing until my PC eventually die. I try SLAV because I thought that even if this happen, if I play with the SLAV, its death alternative may bring my PC back to life so I can continue to play. I never realise that when the bug happen, it just keep killing my PC despite the MOD bring my PC back to life. So right now when this bug happen, my PC will undergo the process of die high, and then bring back to life and then die high again and so on. An unending cycle of life and dead until I got bore and load the early save. 

[VirginMarie]

4 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, sorry, yes I encounter this bug when playing Toy Story. I should have placed this in Toy Story instead of here. I cannot say exactly when this is happen as I try several play run and each time happen quite radomly but almost all happen in the middle of the game. Yes I also play SLAV at the same time but when I first encounter this bug, I have not yet install the SLAV. Also when health is decrease, it is the maximum amount of health decrease, the health it self appears to be full until some time the maximum amount of health becomes negative, which my PC die. It seen that every time when my PC have orgasm, the maximum health decrease, and as my PC has multiply spontaneous orgasms, it keeps decreasing until my PC eventually die. I try SLAV because I thought that even if this happen, if I play with the SLAV, its death alternative may bring my PC back to life so I can continue to play. I never realise that when the bug happen, it just keep killing my PC despite the MOD bring my PC back to life. So right now when this bug happen, my PC will undergo the process of die high, and then bring back to life and then die high again and so on. An unending cycle of life and dead until I got bore and load the early save. 

 

seen that every time when my PC have orgasm, the maximum health decrease

Well I guess you are orgasming yourself to death  I can think of worse ways to die!

• The only mod using Toys&Love that has a mechanic that is like this is Whorecrux. Do you have Whorecrux? If yes, its probably your source
• There's no known issue like this
• It could be another mod, not related to Toys
• If you think its Toys&Love, you need to find the toy that's debuffing health. Remove it to prove it. But no toy will kill
  • You can view the details of each toy, and see their buffs if any, using Toys&Love MCM - Toys Worn tab - click a toy to see detail view

One possible cause is a corrupt save, combined with a mod that is debuffing health... 

• Did you start a new game when you first added Toys&Love? do I really need to start a new game?  if no, your save is corrupt
• Have you broken the Golden Rule since starting the new game? If yes, your save is corrupt
  • Adding SLaVE mid-game would be breaking the rule, unless you carefully placed SLaVE at the end of your load order

We don't have much to go on here. Need to see your Papyrus Log.  How to get a Papyrus Log?

We want the log to be for a short game session where you.... Startup up from desktop.... load a save.... Run the Toys&Love Installation Test (Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab).... recreate the problem where you die... Exit to Desktop... grab that log and attach here

 

In the meantime, If your health has been buffed down low by something, you can fix it with this console command.... Player.ForceAV Health 100

It's not a perma-fix though, a mod like Whorecrux is going to take it down again. 100 would be a level 1 character. If you know the correct value, maybe its 140 for example, set it to that.

[street2]

Great mod, loving it, just got a minor Problem with it that I can't seem to figure out myself.

Is there a way to stop the "always orgasm" at scene  end? I got OSLaroused setup to only decrease arousal if there is a SLSO orgasm, but with Toys installed (new game of course) and Rousing linked to arousal + Deactivate denial in Sexlab Scenes I always lose all Rousing/Arousal after a Scene ends.

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, street2 said:

Great mod, loving it, just got a minor Problem with it that I can't seem to figure out myself.

Is there a way to stop the "always orgasm" at scene  end? I got OSLaroused setup to only decrease arousal if there is a SLSO orgasm, but with Toys installed (new game of course) and Rousing linked to arousal + Deactivate denial in Sexlab Scenes I always lose all Rousing/Arousal after a Scene ends.

 

I don't know the cause of "always O" at the sexlab scene end.

• I always thought SLA does that. Can't speak for SLSO or OSLaroused.
• Toys&Love does have the feature of adding squirts to an SL scene and being able to deny then, which does the opposite... on denial, you then have no lost arousal at the end of the scene... it leaves you where you were when it started which, if it started at 0, would leave you with 0, but if you started with 80, it would be left at 80. But you say you have that feature turned off (which is the intent for using SLSO).

I can't say for sure that Toys&Love is not responsible. I will definitely look into it, and fix for next release if I find a cause. Added to my list.

[VirginMarie]

@Redninja32 Answering your message from elsewhere here... 

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How do I stop my male player from fondling himself because him fondling an invisible boobs looks weird. 

 

Its automatic. Toys&Love does not fondle breasts if Skyrim reports the character is male.

If you expect that Skyrim should be reporting the player as male, then lets have a look at your Papryrus log.

How to get a Papyrus Log? 

We need the log a game session where you... startup from desktop.... load a save... wait 3mins.... Fondle (hotkey to fondle is L-Alt by default).... exit to desktop. Grab that log

 

[street2]

11 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

I don't know the cause of "always O" at the sexlab scene end.

• I always thought SLA does that. Can't speak for SLSO or OSLaroused.
• Toys&Love does have the feature of adding squirts to an SL scene and being able to deny then, which does the opposite... on denial, you then have no lost arousal at the end of the scene... it leaves you where you were when it started which, if it started at 0, would leave you with 0, but if you started with 80, it would be left at 80. But you say you have that feature turned off (which is the intent for using SLSO).

I can't say for sure that Toys&Love is not responsible. I will definitely look into it, and fix for next release if I find a cause. Added to my list.

Actually turned the denial back on for the darkdesireclub quests, haven't really noticed any conflicts with that feature turned to on so far. Also I tried all kinds of Values in OSLaroused/settings and noticed that it doesn't really matter what I put there, it always ends with losing all rousing. Also ending a Scene with denying everything also puts rousing to 0. Still trying to figure it out on my end though, wish I could just get rid of Aroused altogether but it is a requirement for too many mods.

[VirginMarie]

5 minutes ago, street2 said:

Actually turned the denial back on for the darkdesireclub quests, haven't really noticed any conflicts with that feature turned to on so far. Also I tried all kinds of Values in OSLaroused/settings and noticed that it doesn't really matter what I put there, it always ends with losing all rousing. Also ending a Scene with denying everything also puts rousing to 0. Still trying to figure it out on my end though, wish I could just get rid of Aroused altogether but it is a requirement for too many mods.

• It might have something to do with OSLarousal, which I've not tested with. Not saying it is, maybe I do have a conflict that I can fix.
• The reason to turn off denial for SLSO... by default you'd be pressing the hotkey for denial (shift), when pressing hotkeys for SLSO, other than that I think it does not matter, but SLSO should be left to the job if you are going to use it

[bluewolfie]

I just tried this mod with several plugins and i love it! It's quick and has lot of nice features. I just have one problem with erection. All characters and creatures don't have erect dicks which kinda ruins the 'vibe' xp. I do have sexlab installed and there everything works perfectly. Am i missing something? I use the edited sexlab aroused by baka and the slal version of morenastycritters. Could that be it?

 

My loadorder in a nutshell:

- Non-sex masterfiles

 

- Schlongs of Skyrim

- Sexlab.esm

- Toys.esm

- SexlabAroused.esm

- CreatureFramework.esm

- ZazAnimationPack.esm

- Skyrim Utility mod.esm

- Devious Devices.esm (assets, contraptions, integration and expansion)

 

- Non sexlab esp-files

 

- wildlifefortoys.esp

-sanguinetoybox.esp

-toyfultemptations.esp

-toyStory.esp

-tradersSellToys

-SexlabTools.esp

-SLAnimLoader

- slal-animations

 

- other sexlabmods (defeat, aroused creatures, approach and quests)

 

- XPMSE.esp

-BakaFactoryABC.esp

[Omnishade]

I installed this only because it's a requirement for Dark Desires Club, and I already have Deviously Cursed Loot and SLSO so it can be a bit much at the same time. Is there any way of disabling the features that I don't need? Only the love game seems to be optional.

[Talesien]

28 minutes ago, RoninDog said:

I installed this only because it's a requirement for Dark Desires Club, and I already have Deviously Cursed Loot and SLSO so it can be a bit much at the same time. Is there any way of disabling the features that I don't need? Only the love game seems to be optional.

Unless you are wearing some toys, this mod does nothing active on its own, so what would you want to disable?

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, bluewolfie said:

I just tried this mod with several plugins and i love it! It's quick and has lot of nice features. I just have one problem with erection. All characters and creatures don't have erect dicks which kinda ruins the 'vibe' xp. I do have sexlab installed and there everything works perfectly. Am i missing something? I use the edited sexlab aroused by baka and the slal version of morenastycritters. Could that be it?

 

Erection trouble is a travesty ! We can't have that! ? 

 

Outside of Critters, SOS is the only requirement for it. Did you change to AE but did not get the AE fix for SOS?

For creature I'm not even sure if its done within morenastycritters. I assume so... just works. But lets focus on non-critter first.

 

But bottom line... if you see it working in Sexlab, it should be working for Toy&Love too. Even if some mod managed to block/alter this... I don't know how it could work in Sexlab but not in Toys&Love. Both mods call the same animation in the same way, because there is only one way. Its actually very simple.

 

I use the edited sexlab aroused by baka and the slal version of morenastycritters... what I said above... is it working for sexlab? then it must work for Toys&Love. I don't have any knowledge for that mod confirming this, one way or the other though. Maybe try it without, after starting a new game of course... which brings me to the last point...

 

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

If you've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes... then time to start another new game.

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, RoninDog said:

I installed this only because it's a requirement for Dark Desires Club, and I already have Deviously Cursed Loot and SLSO so it can be a bit much at the same time. Is there any way of disabling the features that I don't need? Only the love game seems to be optional.

 

As Talesien said, Toys&Love is not doing anything if you don't wear a toy. But I think you are talking about love scenes only....

 

Dark Desires Club is not using Toys&Love love scenes (yet), only the bondage features. So there's nothing to turn off concerning T&L love scenes.

This will change in next release... the plan

 

An exception... If you wear a toy with a Love Effect, it may trigger T&L love scenes while you are in the club.. But DDC does not put any toys with Love Effects on you, so this would be if you did it manually or Toys quest mod did it.

 

Re.. DCL.... strongly recommend you shut that down while in the club.

Re. SLSO.... its optional.

[bluewolfie]

7 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Erection trouble is a travesty ! We can't have that! ? 

 

Outside of Critters, SOS is the only requirement for it. Did you change to AE but did not get the AE fix for SOS?

For creature I'm not even sure if its done within morenastycritters. I assume so... just works. But lets focus on non-critter first.

 

But bottom line... if you see it working in Sexlab, it should be working for Toy&Love too. Even if some mod managed to block/alter this... I don't know how it could work in Sexlab but not in Toys&Love. Both mods call the same animation in the same way, because there is only one way. Its actually very simple.

 

I use the edited sexlab aroused by baka and the slal version of morenastycritters... what I said above... is it working for sexlab? then it must work for Toys&Love. I don't have any knowledge for that mod confirming this, one way or the other though. Maybe try it without, after starting a new game of course... which brings me to the last point...

 

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

If you've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes... then time to start another new game.

 

Thx for the quick reply! I use special edition and never start skyrim via steam so it doesnt get updated. Started a new save (new game) and didn't add or remove any mods. So yeah, I'm also really confused about this issue. Since it does work correctly with sexlab.

 

I did find an incompatibility with estrus because of some nemeses mods so will remove that one and try again with a new save. Maybe it'll work with another new save. Skyrim works in mysterious ways sometimes

[Omnishade]

8 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

As Talesien said, Toys&Love is not doing anything if you don't wear a toy. But I think you are talking about love scenes only....

 

Dark Desires Club is not using Toys&Love love scenes (yet), only the bondage features. So there's nothing to turn off concerning T&L love scenes.

This will change in next release... the plan

 

An exception... If you wear a toy with a Love Effect, it may trigger T&L love scenes while you are in the club.. But DDC does not put any toys with Love Effects on you, so this would be if you did it manually or Toys quest mod did it.

 

Re.. DCL.... strongly recommend you shut that down while in the club.

Re. SLSO.... its optional.

 

What about rousing during sex animations? There was a mechanic that made my char squirt. It felt strange with two mods controlling orgasms(SLSO being my main choice) so that's what I wanted to turn off. If the other stuff depends on toys I can leave that as it is. There is also a lot of pop-ups and it all seems to require some papyrus processing. I already have a lot of script mods so I don't want to tax the system too much.

Edited August 20, 2022 by RoninDog

[Talesien]

43 minutes ago, RoninDog said:

 

What about rousing during sex animations? There was a mechanic that made my char squirt. It felt strange with two mods controlling orgasms(SLSO being my main choice) so that's what I wanted to turn off. If the other stuff depends on toys I can leave that as it is. There is also a lot of pop-ups and it all seems to require some papyrus processing. I already have a lot of script mods so I don't want to tax the system too much.

That behavior can be controlled under "Rousing and Denial" (upper right side).
The pop-ups are usually shown only once, they can be disabled in the "Setup" section of the MCM (lower right side). I doubt they use much papyrus time, seeing they are event driven (so it's not something continually running, like a cloak spell or similar).

Edited August 20, 2022 by Talesien

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, RoninDog said:

 

What about rousing during sex animations? There was a mechanic that made my char squirt. It felt strange with two mods controlling orgasms(SLSO being my main choice) so that's what I wanted to turn off. If the other stuff depends on toys I can leave that as it is. There is also a lot of pop-ups and it all seems to require some papyrus processing. I already have a lot of script mods so I don't want to tax the system too much.

 

Rousing & Denial Tab - Squirting Visual  &  Use Denial in SL Scenes...  they are the only 2 settings needed for you to not get anything during SL scenes.

 

Most people like the feature of the Rousing Bar, which can sync with Arousal so that the combo of both are showing. But you can turn that off on the Widgets tab.

 

Paying attention to the one time pop up tips, instead of turning them off, would let you actually learn about Toy&Love. Turning them off means you wont even be aware that a Toys thing happened. And yes, the idea that they use up any script processing time is a big NO.