Skyrim myths, and lies, that continue to this day.

[Distortedrealms]

I recently came across a reddit post where people were fighting over ugrids=7 and how it will destroy any game you play and the proponents of leaving at 5 were almost religious in their thinking that it is an evil edit and will destroy the game no questions asked, and would not let anyone say otherwise. It was a shit show with many people having it set to 7 and were fine. I have had ugrids at 7 for years and never had one issue with it set to that number even with massive load orders. But it had me thinking that, even today, when you search for solutions to many skyrim problems, often the first results are ancient and most dating back to 2011,and 2012 and many people still hold many of these ideas set to stone in 2020.

 

What are some of these myths that drive you insane, or scratching your head is disbelief they are still being pushed?

 

[Seijin8]

58 minutes ago, Distortedrealms said:

I have had ugrids at 7 for years

This is all irrelevant with DynDoLOD.  If you have that set up correctly, all you are doing with uGrids 7 is wasting some CPU cycles for AI that you can't see and making some scenes trigger too early.

 

Before DynDoLOD, yeah there was an argument to be made both ways.  Before the save format was tweaked by Crash Fixes, a higher uGrids could (theoretically) cause save bloating.  The scenes and random encounters n the game were designed with uGrids 5 in mind, so with 7 they might play out of sight.  Not usually a big deal.

 

As far as "myths", there are a slew of them.  SMP melting your CPU is one.  SMP and PE physics not working together is another.  The inherent superiority of SE is another.

 

It doesn't help that "Skyrim Sorcery" does appear to be real (at least in some sense) and there can't be a one-size-fits-all solution for some problems, so you end up with people arguing over what will/won't cause a crash or problem, and they are both simultaneously right and wrong, based on their own experiences.

 

My pet peeve (if I had to pick just one) is the BSDismemberment issue with nifs.  It isn't needed except for slots 32, 34, 38, 50 and 51, and maybe some edge-cases with helmets.  Set it to NiSkinInstance instead, and save everyone headaches when they need to change the slot for their own use.  Skyrim doesn't use dismemberment.  This is a holdover from Fallout and has no function outside of maybe the Deadly Mutilation mod.

[MonVert]

The myths surrounding Open Cities are pretty legendary. ?

 

And the myths about SMP "Melting" your CPU are mostly because people play on incredibly outdated hardware.

[woodsman30]

2 hours ago, MonVert said:

The myths surrounding Open Cities are pretty legendary.

Do tell it because I don't believe I have heard it.

[MonVert]

16 minutes ago, woodsman30 said:

Do tell it because I don't believe I have heard it.

 

Dyndolod and Open Cities will not cause your game to explode, weird LOD levels, holes, or cause Ulfric to descend through the floor to Markarth.

 

Open Cities will not break  default navmeshes, unless you think Immersive Citizens is the most benign thing ever, and can be safely converted to an ESM. (Remember when shit like this was an ESM, by default, back in Morrowind?)

 

 

Ugh, man, just reading the nexus posts on it makes my head hurt, as does reading the skyrim reddit, can I take a break from even thinking about all this shit people spread?

 

Dare I talk about all the SexLab myths? ? Cause' those have already breached outer space.

 

 

[woodsman30]

52 minutes ago, MonVert said:

Open Cities will not cause your game to explode,

Ah I see .....only issue I might see is rendering a lot of NPC in towns and cities. I have around 23,000 npc with meshes textures hairs in game my cities are very active as are the roads ect. I really don't think I could run it I don't think I could load 100 npc at a time but that is me and my game set up every setting is maxed out.

[Darkpig]

On 11/29/2020 at 4:58 AM, woodsman30 said:

Ah I see .....only issue I might see is rendering a lot of NPC in towns and cities. I have around 23,000 npc with meshes textures hairs in game my cities are very active as are the roads ect. I really don't think I could run it I don't think I could load 100 npc at a time but that is me and my game set up every setting is maxed out.

I think a better alternative is using low res silhouette people to cut down on Vram. I had something like this in mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_person

 

Yeah ghosts might be a boner killer but with just the right assets you might think they were an angel.

[woodsman30]

19 hours ago, Darkpig said:

using low res silhouette people

Just no..... way to much time in making the npc/skyrim look good and, game run just right.

The real alternative is just a vanilla game with no mods?

 

[MonVert]

21 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I think a better alternative is using low res silhouette people to cut down on Vram. I had something like this in mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_person

 

Yeah ghosts might be a boner killer but with just the right assets you might think they were an angel.

 

Shadow Boners?

 

And why hasn't MMG given ghost's dicks yet? Why is there no SexLab Phantom Porn?

[Darkpig]

7 hours ago, woodsman30 said:

Just no..... way to much time in making the npc/skyrim look good and, game run just right.

The real alternative is just a vanilla game with no mods?

You did that for 23,000 npcs? Consider me impressed. Or were you exaggerating? I never could tell on the internet.

How many of these npcs have an actual function aside from being there? I may have jumped to the conclusion that you were using Populated Cities or something. There are like what? Ten in Whiterun 30 including guards?

[woodsman30]

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

How many of these npcs have an actual function aside from being there

I do not use populated cities does very little for me.... and I would say most if not all npc have world interactions. I have new land/world mods three of those, new city mods, tavern mods, town mods, dungeon mods, quest mods, and the list keeps going. I have tried to build a place that is unlike any game... and through more time than I will ever admit I have done so...

[MadMansGun]

11 hours ago, MonVert said:

And why hasn't MMG given ghost's dicks yet? Why is there no SexLab Phantom Porn?

have  you not seen the ghost dog?

 

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, Darkpig said:

You did that for 23,000 npcs? Consider me impressed.

 

6 hours ago, Darkpig said:

How many of these npcs have an actual function aside from being there?

As @woodsman30 said, most if not all do something. I don't use Pop Cities mainly because the NPCs don't do anything except sit around clogging up the inns. I use Pop Roads though. The NPCs from that mod move about Skyrim and attack or get attacked by other NPCs. Mod conflicts in my game generally result in a trail of bodies. I run and loot afterwards. ?

[MonVert]

2 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

have  you not seen the ghost dog?

 

 

Ghost dogs?

 

Pff, you can do better!  Get them dicks on mihail's specters, or somethin'.

 

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

As @woodsman30 said, most if not all do something. I don't use Pop Cities mainly because the NPCs don't do anything except sit around clogging up the inns. I use Pop Roads though. The NPCs from that mod move about Skyrim and attack or get attacked by other NPCs. Mod conflicts in my game generally result in a trail of bodies. I run and loot afterwards. ?

 

But combining Populated Skyrim and YA is...amazing, once you furrify everyone. (This is its own hell considering how many bloody records there are.) Perma orgies, and if you use Open Cities they all die in a dragon fire anyhow...or the Civil War.

[Grey Cloud]

13 minutes ago, MonVert said:

they all die in a dragon fire anyhow...or the Civil War.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

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As @woodsman30 said, most if not all do something. I don't use Pop Cities mainly because the NPCs don't do anything except sit around clogging up the inns. I use Pop Roads though. The NPCs from that mod move about Skyrim and attack or get attacked by other NPCs. Mod conflicts in my game generally result in a trail of bodies. I run and loot afterwards. ?

24,815! I think you got me by like, 3000.  Always wished someone would make post showing pics of Are You There npc totals

[Grey Cloud]

43 minutes ago, Heroine of the Night said:

Always wished someone would make post showing pics of Are You There npc totals

Open a thread then.  ?

 

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

7 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Open a thread then.  ?

 

 

Me? Do you not know who I am? After all these months,Cloud. I'm the bad guy! No traction if I start it,duh. 

[Darkpig]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

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I really should use that mod. There are so many things in Skyrim I haven't done but should.?

[Grey Cloud]

19 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I really should use that mod.

I use it for follower management.

 

1. Download follower.

2. Check where in game the follower will appear before leaving mod page.

3. Install follower.

4. Go back to mod page to get the location again.

5. Fire up the game.

6. Dash and bother. Use AYT to move to wherever the hell the follower is.

[Mez558]

19 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said:

I'm the bad guy

19 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said:

duh. 

Billie?

?

 

Who gave you that role/label?

 

Don't think that because someone disagreed with what you said once or twice and wasn't particularly civil about it, that you're now Persona non grata here.

Certainly don't take a lack of response to your post(s) as some kind of silent judgement,

Personally, I wouldn't reply to such a thread because I don't use the mod, same reason I don't reply to a lot of posts.