Oculus Rift

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Well Facerift no thx i'll pass.

 

Zuck prolly gonne find ways to invade you more into your privacy and get money out of it.

 

OR won't be independed it will get a facebook sticker on it and you need and im sure of that a facebook account or no rift.

 

Not in a million years i will register on facebook-google or any of those.

 

Oh and first they go kickstarter and then then sell out to the corporate devil lol whats a joke.

 

But would not have gues that after money can buy anything on this planet.

[LaEspada]

I wonder what the future holds for the Oculus Rift since it seems "Facebook" is buying it.

I thought it was supposed to be for games, wtf does Facebook need with it.

another great idea down the shitter?  hmmm.

"News"

 

 

http://kotaku.com/the-internet-reacts-to-facebook-buying-oculus-rift-1551579758

 

 

 

I think they want to do explore "being at live events" without actually being there.

Imagine watching a game of tennis in Europe in the comfort of your home in the ranches of Texas (I'm being hypothetical here), not on the TV at the whim of which direction the cameraman is facing. The Oculus Rift is based on YOUR perspective, not the cameraman's.

 

Imagine going to a live Imagine Dragons concert with just simple 360 degree camera set up or something so you could watch the concert and the crowd live, hell look at the sky if you want, without all the ear-damaging noise.

[Guest GuyWhoAbruptlyDisappeared]

I actually predicted this long ago. When I ordered the dev kit, I remember telling a friend "I bet you that it will be bought by Google or Facebook by the end of next year".  I am alt tabbed out of Skyrim on the Rift to post this.

I don't care that Facebook is buying the rift, because I'm not loyal to the oculus. All I wanted was a framework to deal with headtracking that is affordable.

 

With valve and Sony doing their own VR sets, this is not the end of the VR market - this is only the beginning. If Facebook wants to turn the rift into a social media device, they'll surely not be targeting the VR enthusiast market, and the market will be ruled by Valve or Sony.

 

To put it simply:

This is bad news for Oculus Rift.

This is excellent news for the VR market.

 

Edit: Upon further investigation and looking more carefully into the situation, Facebook seems to be taking an implicit interest in the Rift, giving it money to ensure its growth, rather than trying to take creative control over it. This is great news for the Oculus Rift.

[quin666]

I wonder what the future holds for the Oculus Rift since it seems "Facebook" is buying it.

I thought it was supposed to be for games, wtf does Facebook need with it.

another great idea down the shitter?  hmmm.

"News"

 

 

http://kotaku.com/the-internet-reacts-to-facebook-buying-oculus-rift-1551579758

 

 

 

                                                      

Really feel sorry for Kickstarter community but hey, money rule everything. Not loyalty or pride.  

[Ashal]

As somebody who has purchased the first Oculus Rift devkit and has pre-ordered the new devkit the day it was announced last week, maybe I'm just drinking the kool-aid, but I find the response and backlash of the buyout to be nothing short of utterly embarrassing. Few communities know how to overreact and instantly assume the worse as much as gaming communities. 

 

People screaming the Rift will be filled with ads over games are being completely unrealistic and clearly haven't a clue how hardware, or business for that matter, works. The computer monitor you are likely using to read this right now doesn't display ads over existing content, the Rift doing it would be no different. Forcing ads to display over content with required firmware would drive away developers and users alike in droves, and no company, Facebook included, is that oblivious.

 

Oculus is a hardware company, they will continue to focus on making a nice piece of hardware; which by their repeated statements, both pre and post Facebook buyout, would have a gaming first focus. Facebook is a software company, they'll make whatever software makes sense for them to make for it, and push the Rift vs other VR headsets as their preferred platform on that software.

 

Just because you (rhetorically) run a Windows computer doesn't mean your computer is best suited to, or only capable of, running Microsoft Word.

 

It's an obvious attempt by Facebook to expand into new markets beyond Social Media, a market they are likely well aware won't sustain them forever. I'm not a fan of Facebooks policies in general, but Facebooks strategy here is just to be at the forefront of a future market and maybe provide separate exclusive telepresence software that ties back into their network; thinking you'd have to login to a game with a Facebook account or buy it through some Facebook exclusive market just to use it is simply idiotic

 

 

[Kris]

Yesterday I was working with the Unreal Engine 4 and an Oculus Rift DK1 when I learnt that Facebook bought Oculus.

Today, I'm still working with the Unreal Engine 4 and an Oculus Rift DK1.

Companies get bought and sold all the time.

We're not going to suddenly have virtual adverts or like buttons appear :|

[Guest GuyWhoAbruptlyDisappeared]

As somebody who has purchased the first Oculus Rift devkit and has pre-ordered the new devkit the day it was announced last week, maybe I'm just drinking the kool-aid, but I find the response and backlash of the buyout to be nothing short of utterly embarrassing. Few communities know how to overreact and instantly assume the worse as much as gaming communities. 

 

People screaming the Rift will be filled with ads over games are being completely unrealistic and clearly haven't a clue how hardware, or business for that matter, works. The computer monitor you are likely using to read this right now doesn't display ads over existing content, the Rift doing it would be no different. Forcing ads to display over content with required firmware would drive away developers and users alike in droves, and no company, Facebook included, is that oblivious.

 

Oculus is a hardware company, they will continue to focus on making a nice piece of hardware; which by their repeated statements, both pre and post Facebook buyout, would have a gaming first focus. Facebook is a software company, they'll make whatever software makes sense for them to make for it, and push the Rift vs other VR headsets as their preferred platform on that software.

 

Just because you (rhetorically) run a Windows computer doesn't mean your computer is best suited to, or only capable of, running Microsoft Word.

 

It's an obvious attempt by Facebook to expand into new markets beyond Social Media, a market they are likely well aware won't sustain them forever. I'm not a fan of Facebooks policies in general, but Facebooks strategy here is just to be at the forefront of a future market and maybe provide separate exclusive telepresence software that ties back into their network; thinking you'd have to login to a game with a Facebook account or buy it through some Facebook exclusive market just to use it is simply idiotic

 

 

Very good points, excellent post. I wish that were the opening post.

[DespairSyndrome]

I would be terribly afraid if Rift was used to facilitate online conversations Facebook style.

[hryh23k9823u]

I agree with Ashal, OR is a display device, and people likes apocallypse too much. That said, it still sucks. They were a kickstarter, a niche thing, something indie from gamers to gamers. The feelings of betrayal after they asked people to fund their project and now sell it to facebook is there. The hardware is still great, but the company has passed from something that causes me to smile to my 'I wish you to ruin and disappear miserably' list.

[Spectre_15]

 

I can assure everybody that this thing is awesome. If you have a 3ds you can understand, but this is way more immersive. Imagine Doom3, game of the millenium!

 

 

 

Pretty sure I just came a little... or a lot.

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As somebody who has purchased the first Oculus Rift devkit and has pre-ordered the new devkit the day it was announced last week, maybe I'm just drinking the kool-aid, but I find the response and backlash of the buyout to be nothing short of utterly embarrassing. Few communities know how to overreact and instantly assume the worse as much as gaming communities. 

 

People screaming the Rift will be filled with ads over games are being completely unrealistic and clearly haven't a clue how hardware, or business for that matter, works. The computer monitor you are likely using to read this right now doesn't display ads over existing content, the Rift doing it would be no different. Forcing ads to display over content with required firmware would drive away developers and users alike in droves, and no company, Facebook included, is that oblivious.

 

Oculus is a hardware company, they will continue to focus on making a nice piece of hardware; which by their repeated statements, both pre and post Facebook buyout, would have a gaming first focus. Facebook is a software company, they'll make whatever software makes sense for them to make for it, and push the Rift vs other VR headsets as their preferred platform on that software.

 

Just because you (rhetorically) run a Windows computer doesn't mean your computer is best suited to, or only capable of, running Microsoft Word.

 

It's an obvious attempt by Facebook to expand into new markets beyond Social Media, a market they are likely well aware won't sustain them forever. I'm not a fan of Facebooks policies in general, but Facebooks strategy here is just to be at the forefront of a future market and maybe provide separate exclusive telepresence software that ties back into their network; thinking you'd have to login to a game with a Facebook account or buy it through some Facebook exclusive market just to use it is simply idiotic

 

 

I don't agree on most you say here but my english is not that good so i can't explain as good as some you can why its a bad deal with facebook on so many fronts, if you think its ok and facebook won't invade you privacy and only one purpose go for your money then your ignorant.

 

Your examples are so flawed in many ways, but if you think that go a head its not my few on this matter.

 

Maybe im idiotic then but facebook can't be trusted as for google and more of those, if you don't see this thats ok and your right, but not even for one second i will jump in and buy a owned facebook device OC rift or not they will lose control eventually despite there maybe good intentions.

 

Facebook have no good intentions they just after your privacy and money its simple as that.

 

And becouse companys are bougth and sold all the time don't mean its always a good deal lol

 

I have no facebook-google in any form or other social networks for that matter.

 

So maybe i have no say in this at all?.. i don't embrace most of what internet has to offer. If you like facebook or google or whatever social netwrok apps chat whatever have fun for long time.

 

Good luck

 

It's nothing personal it's just my opinion hope your understand that?

 

Love and peace to all

 

[Ashal]

Your computer monitor right now isn't reporting back to the company that makes it what personal information you display on screen, that's conspiracy level paranoia and just not how hardware works. 

 

If you honestly think they are going to be invading your privacy just by virtue of you placing a Rift on your face, than you are paranoid beyond reason and there is no point in debating it.

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Thats was not what im trying to explain here here prolly my fault my english sucks sorry. So still don't agree but its not that importend , its just different views on the matter. In some cases its good to be paranoia

 

Don't be so sure if putting some device on your face they don't follow you and surely in near future they can, it will happen call it healthty paranoia protection for yourself

 

They will and can more then you think even when a device is not connected(some) at all to internet they can follow you.

 

But i'll leave at that no harm done, to each his own.

 

Have fun with OR ...and facebook

[Ashal]

 

Don't be so sure if putting some device on your face they don't follow you and surely in near future they can, it will happen call it healthty paranoia protection for yourself

 

I can be absolutely sure, as

 

1) HDMI cables don't transfer that kind of data, they are an audio/video interface. Again hardware simply doesn't work the way you're claiming it does. There is absolutely nothing healthy about your level of paranoia.

 

2) There is absolutely nothing of interest to be gained for an advertising company from a device attached to my face. Any and all data points are of value for an advertising company sure, but knowing my retinas and eye color are of little value to them or anybody.

 

3) Contrary to popular belief Google/Facebook DON'T sell personal information. They sell access to ad space with targeted demographics. Google knows I'm an 18-34 year old male who likes video games, because I have given them that information willingly through their various services. Company X then goes to Google and says "Hey, show this video game related ad to young adult men who like video games!" So automated systems at Google, takes their ad decides I fit that demographic, showing it whenever Google ads are displayed. Selling your private information to companies would put them out of business and be like Coca-Cola selling their secret recipe to anybody who wanted to sell Coke; why keep licensing from coke when you then have the recipe to make it yourself?

 

It's not a matter of differing opinion here, it's simple fact of how this sort of technology works.

[Guest GuyWhoAbruptlyDisappeared]

 

 

Don't be so sure if putting some device on your face they don't follow you and surely in near future they can, it will happen call it healthty paranoia protection for yourself

 

I can be absolutely sure, as

 

1) HDMI cables don't transfer that kind of data, they are an audio/video interface. Again hardware simply doesn't work the way you're claiming it does. There is absolutely nothing healthy about your level of paranoia.

 

2) There is absolutely nothing of interest to be gained for an advertising company from a device attached to my face. Any and all data points are of value for an advertising company sure, but knowing my retinas and eye color are of little value to them or anybody.

 

3) Contrary to popular belief Google/Facebook DON'T sell personal information. They sell access to ad space with targeted demographics. Google knows I'm an 18-34 year old male who likes video games, because I have given them that information willingly through their various services. Company X then goes to Google and says "Hey, show this video game related ad to young adult men who like video games!" So automated systems at Google, takes their ad decides I fit that demographic, showing it whenever Google ads are displayed. Selling your private information to companies would put them out of business and be like Coca-Cola selling their secret recipe to anybody who wanted to sell Coke; why keep licensing from coke when you then have the recipe to make it yourself?

 

It's not a matter of differing opinion here, it's simple fact of how this sort of technology works.

 

 

Agreed.

 

The more logical paranoia by some of the more knowledgeable users is that Facebook will turn Oculus into another direction, trying to make some sort of messenger and social device out of it.

That is, once again, another case of people not really understanding how technology works. Facebook can make an application based on the Rift that is a messenger - doesn't mean you have to install or use it.

 

Facebook cannot touch the Rift drivers or technology. The drivers are already open source and there's not a damn thing Facebook can do about it. And there's not a damn thing Facebook would want to do about it.

 

The interest in the Rift is most likely for Facebook. By buying Rift, Facebook has executive control, and can use the Oculus Rift for Facebook-related events whenever it wants, and push the company to add technology Facebook needs for whatever event that the rift doesn't already have.

 

The way it looks to me is that Zuckerberg and the Facebook executives fell in love with the Oculus Rift like the rest of us did, and decided to put a shitload of money into it to watch it grow. Conspiracies and angst against Facebook are taking over the message boards right now and it doesn't make any sense. I don't like Facebook either, but to insist that they're going to destroy the rift is silly.

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Ok..im not healthy about this fine whatever but...

 

Future will tell who is right or wrong

 

I just try to discus and point my views on the subject here as open as i can thats all i won't comment on what people personnaly think thats there business.

 

All good

[LordJerle]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Facebook/Google/NSA/Whathaveyou wants to spy on my porn watching, let em.  I'll even give em my top picks if they ask nicely.  

Anyway, my main concern is that the buyout will delay the final hardware deployment.

[dje34]

Stuff doesn't spy on you, people do. At least it is how it works today, time will tell if it stays like this or not.

 

Btw, I'm looking forward some Oculus Rift + game designed for Oculus Rift package. Adult game or not.

[hryh23k9823u]

Facebook cannot touch the Rift drivers or technology.

 

And in the worse case you just format/root the OR.

[dje34]

I read some news about Facebook and Oculus Rift and I can say I won't buy this stuff... even if it worths a hacking, buying stuff from Facebook's rulers is like buying stuff from Windows' rulers, Apple's rulers or Google's rulers, giving money to people who already have too much, I prefer giving money to people with good ideas and strong community spirit, not to people who will force you to buy/use/endorse this or that because 'it's a revolution', you know what I mean ?

 

And what about anonymity ? If you have to use your FB account to use Oculus Rift, god knows what will happen next. Who will know what you do with it ? What will happen if a bug occurs like the one with pm suddenly becoming public on FB ? And who will stop FB to put ads in your games or force the developers to do what M. Zuckersomething wants so they can have their games published on Rift ?

 

I used to use FB, now I'm not using FB anymore and I won't be using it in the future. Those guys are data thieves, bad programmers and their only goal is making money. Why would I give them what they want ? Just because everyone is doing it ?!

[Dutchbat]

There is a Dutch company making a walk pad for Oculus rift, i dont know if it is posted allready but anyway, nice watch.

 

[shane4244]

I read some news about Facebook and Oculus Rift and I can say I won't buy this stuff... even if it worths a hacking, buying stuff from Facebook's rulers is like buying stuff from Windows' rulers, Apple's rulers or Google's rulers, giving money to people who already have too much, I prefer giving money to people with good ideas and strong community spirit, not to people who will force you to buy/use/endorse this or that because 'it's a revolution', you know what I mean ?

 

And what about anonymity ? If you have to use your FB account to use Oculus Rift, god knows what will happen next. Who will know what you do with it ? What will happen if a bug occurs like the one with pm suddenly becoming public on FB ? And who will stop FB to put ads in your games or force the developers to do what M. Zuckersomething wants so they can have their games published on Rift ?

 

I used to use FB, now I'm not using FB anymore and I won't be using it in the future. Those guys are data thieves, bad programmers and their only goal is making money. Why would I give them what they want ? Just because everyone is doing it ?!

 

I don't really want to argue about this because it's generally pointless your not going to change the way I feel , I can't change the way you feel.

 

I just can't grasp why people feel this way about successful companies. Yes Facebook, microsoft, apple, etc. care about making money there a buisness and there still in buisness because they provide product and/or services people want. The moment a buisness stays content with what they are doing is the moment they fail.

 

My gut reaction to facebook buying the rift was probably about like everyone else I didn't cancel my devkit2 order but I wasn't happy about it. However after thinking about it a while it could have been a lot worse. Now they have the money to actually get the product where it needs to be and according to Palmer they actually have more control since Facebook bought them out, the smaller investers were needing a return a little quicker than what facebook is expecting so now they can devleop a good product rather than shipping one out asap to appease the smaller investors. No one makes a 2 billion dollar decision lightly facebook knows the practical use of the product is still a few years away and I'm sure that oculus has had other offers for there product probably for a similar price and I'm certain they had reasons for going with facebook. It could be worse apple could have bought them out took full control and used there teams to build there own product based on oculus and rush it to market.

 

Just give them the benifit of the doubt for now just because facebook bought the product does not mean things will change for the worse. Of course it could go that way but there is no reason to think so without prove.

[DespairSyndrome]

There is a Dutch company making a walk pad for Oculus rift, i dont know if it is posted allready but anyway, nice watch.

 

 

And it doubles as a personal treadmill too.

[deathparade]

Don't really sure on this facebook thing i like that they'll have acccess to more funds

But besides that people DID donate

I'll see what the future holds

Although i'd have to say Facebook buying this sounds just wierd to me i think if one company that should have bought this it should have been Valve

[shane4244]

Don't really sure on this facebook thing i like that they'll have acccess to more funds

But besides that people DID donate

 

I'll see what the future holds

 

Although i'd have to say Facebook buying this sounds just wierd to me i think if one company that should have bought this it should have been Valve

 

The donations don't entitle anyone to anything you do not became a stockholder/invester in the company. And it's not like the money donated was wasted in obviously helped the rift get far enough to get noticed. I can understand how that would make the people who kickstarted the rift feel though.

 

Facebook buying the rift does seem strange but sometimes company's stray themselves into new territory to make themselves stay relevent. We won't know there full plan untill they tell us. As long as they don't make the rift exclusive to facebook apps it probably won't turn out that bad. Hopefully there smart enough to know how much that would limit the market for the product.

 

I agree valve buying them would have been a dream and they have been very supportive to the rift so far in exchanging idea's and they have even had staff on hand helping them hopefully facebooks acquisition does not change there relationship.