Separate Sexlab into its own game?

[rieguy]

     I couldn't find anyone asking this same type of question here, so I figured I would ask.  Would you play a game that is just the sexlab content, or do you like the fact that it is a "real" (so to speak) game that has sexual content added in?  With game engines like Unity, or Godot its fairly simple (not easy, but simple)  to allow external files(mods) to be used by your game.  If a standalone game were made, would anyone care?  Would a community make content for it,  or would everyone just go, "ehh...it aint elder scrolls or fallout."  

[rieguy]

 

13 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

You do know Ashal created the framework only, right? I don't think any animation was made by Ashal himself, he even has AP animations in there (default off) which Animated Prostitution was one of the first sex mods for Skyrim along with Niruins Business Plan then SexiS, Sexlab eliminated the need for all those others by providing a almost bug-free framework. Many of the old SexiS mods were then converted over to Sexlab. 

 

December 15, 2012

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/18366

07 June 2012

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/10748

21 February 2012

 Yeah I'm aware...your point is?  Im not sure I follow your answer.  My question is, essentially, would people play a game that is exclusively sexual content and make more content for it.  As in its focus is banging(for lack of a better word), or is there a ton of sexlab content because there's a bunch of non-sexual activities to do in skyrim along side it.

[Mez558]

44 minutes ago, rieguy said:

     I couldn't find anyone asking this same type of question here, so I figured I would ask.  Would you play a game that is just the sexlab content, or do you like the fact that it is a "real" (so to speak) game that has sexual content added in?  With game engines like Unity, or Godot its fairly simple (not easy, but simple)  to allow external files(mods) to be used by your game.  If a standalone game were made, would anyone care?  Would a community make content for it,  or would everyone just go, "ehh...it aint elder scrolls or fallout."  

Such games already exist, don't they?

Isn't that what Illusion specialise in?

Then there is that Breeders of Nephilililihim or whatever.

 

Those sort of games would have a limited shelf life when it came to interest, I would think,
 

I often spend much of my play throughs trying to make sure my character isn't fucked/raped and half the time it does happen I am reloading the last save (since it's a really a death alternative)

It's not that it needs to be Skyrim. It's just that Bethesda released the tools to mod their games and the modding community ran with it and added their own.

Doubt it will happen again with any game (that includes any future TES series games) but here's to hoping.

 

 

[rieguy]

19 minutes ago, Mez558 said:

Such games already exist, don't they?

Isn't that what Illusion specialise in?

Then there is that Breeders of Nephilililihim or whatever.

 

Those sort of games would have a limited shelf life when it came to interest, I would think,
 

I often spend much of my play throughs trying to make sure my character isn't fucked/raped and half the time it does happen I am reloading the last save (since it's a really a death alternative)

It's not that it needs to be Skyrim. It's just that Bethesda released the tools to mod their games and the modding community ran with it and added their own.

Doubt it will happen again with any game (that includes any future TES series games) but here's to hoping.

 

 

I thought about Illusion (had not heard of Breeders of Nephelym, not into furries) but arent most of their games not mod friendly and not in any other languages?(could be totally wrong about that.)  Also, I find myself in the same camp.  I went out of my way to add sex mods and I keep them loaded, but I dont use them very often.

[gregathit]

49 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

I don't think even Gregahit (correct me if I am wrong) made all the animations for LAPF, and some were just converted over from the original LoversPK to use the new framework. He added more, that much I know, but the core animations are not his alone. The same is true of Sexlab, and thus it would be impossible to make a "game" out of it without compensating each and every author who contributed. 

Sadly I did make all but a dozen or so of the 140+ animations in the LAPF.  That is why it took me a year and a half to put it together.  The LAPF added an animated penis (plus full BBB support).  Few of the old animations had full bbb support and none had an animated penis.  They didn't even have or support penis bones.  Trying to just add in that part to the animations proved to be more work than creating a new animation from scratch (blender is a cast iron bitch).  This huge amount of work is why the overhaul for lovers creatures fell apart.  It is far too much work for one single person.  Sexlab and its setup has benefited by having so many people pitch in to add their touches.  This is why Sexlab rules the roost among beth games.

 

Having an interesting game out of just Sexlab........nah.  I don't see it.  The reason Sexlab is still popular is because Skyrim is still popular.  The sex and other kinkiness fits nicely alongside the other role playing that you are already doing.  It makes it in my opinion much more immersive.  But that is just my opinion.

[Mez558]

39 minutes ago, rieguy said:

I thought about Illusion (had not heard of Breeders of Nephelym, not into furries) but arent most of their games not mod friendly and not in any other languages?(could be totally wrong about that.)

The last Illusion I played was something like Artificial Girl 2 (I think, it could have been Virtual Girl 2) where you ran around a pretty much empty town trying to find the girls you created or the game created and convince them to have sex with you. This back in the mid 2000's I guess, I dread to think what the graphics were like. Again, limited appeal, once you'd convinced your PC's sister to take it up the arse there wasn't much left to play for.

It was mod-able, to a degree. Translated to english and uncensored (as it would have had Japanese genital censorship) but not much more than that, I mean there wasn't much to the game. Not bothered with anything since as there was always way more effort involved in getting it to run and finding the mods to translate and uncensor it than was worth it.

 

That Breeders game looks like Skyrim in it's running and sex animations, not sure what engine it is (unreal I expect) no idea if there is anything to it that would make it interesting.

 

 

[rieguy]

12 minutes ago, Mez558 said:

I dread to think what the graphics were like.

 

 

They're fucking horrifying....  

[Visio Diaboli]

I don't really like furries but I did still like Breeders of the Nephelym in terms of gameplay experience.

 

Despite that, I'd still rather the content from Sexlab-esque mods be interwoven into a larger game that isn't sex-based. Straight-up sex content is only really interesting for a little bit at a time in my opinion, so I frequently find myself just playing regular Skyrim with the risk of getting enslaved while adventuring. Meanwhile in Breeders, sex IS the content - there isn't much in the way of an overarching objective: you can try to create more interesting Nephelym but the enjoyment returns on this are diminishing, so I only ended up playing it for maybe a few hours.

 

I think in general, sex without context is a lot less impactful - pornographic content can be found in abundance, so what really ends up standing out is the context behind it, and the mindsets/personalities/goals of those depicted. If sex is the primary content of a game, then it doesn't feel derivative of any aspects of a non-sexual world behind it, and kind of falls back upon not really having a context other than the depiction of sex.

[Just Checking]

I've played a small range of games where they're built for the adult content to be part of the main experience, and I'd say I generally prefer adding it into existing games via mods.  Not just for the convenience of being able to pick and choose what content is in my game, but also because I find most games built with adult content like that generally focus most of their effort into it, and there's not much in the way of game to it.  If I put a mod into a game, I have the entirety of the actual game to play and then the adult content accentuating it.  It's not always graceful or stable, true, but it gives me something I can use for more than just the one thing.  I saw people using Illusion games as an example before, and they perfectly sum up what I'm saying.  They in theory have social sims baked into them but let's be honest, they're basically animation players.

 

On a completely different note regarding what you asked about if there was just something LL made that does all that without being tacked onto another game, there's a couple just floating around right now.  LifePlay is a life sim grown in our own backyard, so to speak.  It caters to a range of fetishes and more get added as Vinfamy is able to implement them.  There's also a small band of modders for it as well that are making their own contributions.  That is the most fleshed out one and, to my knowledge, the only one that's really functional as an actual game at this point, the rest are in various stages of development and still lack many of their intended features, to say nothing of whether they might eventually be mod friendly.  Still worth checking out though, if you're interested in them.  Slaen's project "Feign" shows a lot of promise, he's got nice models and has the basics of his systems in place, if you're more interested in an action RPG than a lifesim he's one to keep an eye on.

 

There was also a project a couple years ago where a number of the big modders were brainstorming a framework  for game production completely made here that could support adult content as easily as any other aspect of game design, unfortunately it hit some logistical difficulties, last I ever heard of it the group came to the collective decision that it was just going to be too hard to coordinate everyone for the project to work.

[Ashal]

I've put a lot of thought over the years into maybe trying to create a separate adult game. Mainly as a means to teach myself proper game dev work. Ultimately though I agree with a lot of people here, the rest of Skyrim is what gives SL life, it would be a hollow experience in a vacuum. So, for me at least, it would need a fundamental idea behind it that's fun beyond just simple sex. It's something I'd like to still do ultimately though. I've played pretty much every adult game under the sun these days though, and certainly have my thoughts for what such a game should be.

 

But, shit's complicated., and I'm bad at big projects. If I had a partner to help develop it with, maybe I'd give it a go... 

 

 

[landess]

21 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

Animated Prostitution was one of the first sex mods for Skyrim

I remember an Animated Prostitution for Fallout 3, before Skyrim - Related?

1 hour ago, Ashal said:

it would need a fundamental idea behind it that's fun beyond just simple sex

This is why I suffer using Kinky World for the Sims 3. Integrating a sex mod into an existing game properly while not being employed by the studio whom made the game to begin with has to be a daunting task.

[The Man in Black]

SexLab without Skyrim would just be porn.
 

I like the sex mods because the sex has context. I’m not just fucking some random hentai chick. I’m fucking Lydia, who I’ve gone on countless adventures with. It’s Mjoll blowing me back at camp because my healing spell saved her from dying during a rough dragon priest battle. Or, on the darker side, it’s raping that bandit who just tried to kill me and taking her as a slave.

 

Sure, there are plenty of Skyrim sessions where I’m just fapping without really playing it as a game. But all of my best erotic Skyrim memories are where the sex felt like a natural part of the game’s immersion. Saving the damsel in distress is much better when you get to fuck her after. Why simply kill that bandit and let her beautiful body go to waste when you can have some fun with her first. Followers are better when their banter can keep you company on the road and also can warm your bed.

[Solatium]

Sex is probably my least favorite part of Lovers Lab mods. It’s just too deep into the uncanny valley, and personally I’m not crazy about the slurping and licking noises.

[alucrad90]

You do can make an indie game with sex content

But it's impossible to make an indie game with so many non-sexsual contents like skyrim

 

[alucrad90]

On 10/17/2020 at 12:02 AM, rieguy said:

I thought about Illusion (had not heard of Breeders of Nephelym, not into furries) but arent most of their games not mod friendly and not in any other languages?(could be totally wrong about that.)  Also, I find myself in the same camp.  I went out of my way to add sex mods and I keep them loaded, but I dont use them very often.

Illusion games have English verson now and are not so hard to mod

But they don't have even a basic combat game content