SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[WizardLookingDude]

Wow! I was surprised to see that:

Spoiler

During the cuckold training quest, the mod detected the presence of a cum layer on the wife and incorporated it into the dialogue for the quest.

"But your pussy is dripping with cum."

I know that dialogue didn't exist when I did the quest before. This time a convenient dragon attack triggered a scene (from SLEN) before we made it to the inn.

That's impressive. I'd love to see more of that kind of thing. (I am now wondering if there is more, and I've just missed it.)

 

[ToeCutter23]

Would it be feasible to add "open marriage" to pc/spouse relationship type, combining "pc/spouse sharing spouse/pc"-iterations (ie. both being okay with the other one fucking around, content in the knowledge they will return to each others embrace).

 

[eflat01]

23 hours ago, 51offthescale said:

Fair, but having children around while my PC is nude or having sex makes me uncomfortable.

I avoid that too, I certainly don't allow sex in front of them. 

[Guest]

what is SLSF init patch? what does it do

[Gristle]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:27 PM, WizardLookingDude said:

The later stage (65, I think) is the problematic one.

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I can get as far as having my male PC's wife change her outfit to the tavern clothes (although, if I leave the Inn, she switches back). Then the events start, but the quest doesn't update any further. It just stays stuck like that, and if I enter an Inn, she stops following me and keeps trying to sit down (which is fine, but a little concerning if the seat she chooses is far from any eligible males). I thought maybe I was breaking the quest by sleeping or waiting (until there were more people in the inn), but didn't seem to work. I don't know if the AI mod I'm using (Immersive citizens) is breaking something, but I did try disabling and cleaning the save. It didn't help.

 

The spouse shouldn't change out of tavern clothes until you ask her to. Do you have a follower framework controlling her outfit? But the clothes aren't essential to the quest or the approaches.

 

She will "sandbox" in inns during this quest stage. She might sit far from males, but the "approach" dialogue (hers and the NPCs) has a range of 700 units, which should cover the main room of an inn. I can prevent her from sitting, but then she just stands in one place and it looks dumb.

 

The approaches during this stage are just the regular approaches, and are governed by the normal MCM settings, including approach frequency, so you may want to adjust these. She will continue to sandbox like this in inns until approached, but these approaches can also happen outside in cities and towns and other places. But the quest should update to stage 70 once an approach to or from her results in sex.

[Gristle]

On 8/13/2024 at 9:53 PM, kklae said:

I see, what is the name of this variable? Because I don't have the option to debug when talking to NPCs, but they do not make dialogue comments anymore after triggering the approach event.
I want to try toggling this variable, maybe it helps.

The global variable is SLSFC_Wait. It is set to 1 when the mod wants to temporarily stop hello and idle dialogue. However, in the latest version, I built in a debug. If you talk to any NPC and SLSFC_Wait is set to 1, you will have a dialogue option which resets it. 

[Gristle]

On 8/13/2024 at 10:15 PM, MainMansrevenge said:

I've actually been trying to find the LE version of Sexlab Sexual framework. Do you have a link?

 

[Gristle]

On 8/14/2024 at 7:09 AM, kklae said:

Well, I spent a day testing to try and figure out what's going on.
I seem to have found one thing.
NPCs do still make comments, and followers do too. But they're much less likely to make comments than in 3.6.
In 3.6, when I bumped into them, the chance of making a comment was 100% and there was almost no delay.
In 3.64, even with the same settings (changed the probability to 100% in the framework and the delay set to 1s)
people still repeat the vanilla dialogue 90% of the time, or even no dialogue.

If I take off my clothes and bump into them naked, the comments seem to work fine.If this is the intended situation, then I think everything makes sense.
Maybe that'll give some clues.
Also, it seems that when I choose to divorce, the probability of the comments disappearing becomes higher.
Finally, I hope you don't mind my comments, your mod is very good, I like it!

Are you running other mods with random hello or idle dialogue? That could be a factor.

[Gristle]

On 8/14/2024 at 10:19 AM, dantebrogan101 said:

I only get the usual response for asking for sex from the spouse no quest started 

Also thanks for the quick response 

 

If your relationship is set to "PC is cuckold" the spouse sex request dialogue should be "All right. Let's see if you can please your wife. Shall we do it here, or find someplace more private?" Is that what you are seeing?

[Gristle]

On 8/14/2024 at 3:37 PM, 51offthescale said:

I keep forgetting to ask about this but how exactly does sadic fame increase when the PC is seen having sex while weaing the bond of matrimony? In SLSF I typically have my fame gain multipler set to 0.5 as I feel like I gain fame a bit too quickly. This setting typically works quite well for slowly increasing my fame except for sadic fame which very rarely seems to increase. I'll play around with this setting a bit more and see what happens.

It's not a variable that's automatically increased by SLSF. So, unlike other SLSF variables, it won't go up just because NPCs are nearby watching. Instead, it goes up when an NPC makes a "cheating" type comment about the PC having sex with someone who is not their spouse. And NPCs won't make those comments unless they know your PC is cheating, and NPCs won't know your PC is cheating unless (1) the PC is wearing a wedding ring, OR (2) the PC's cheating (sadic) fame is already 10+ (in the location). 

[Gristle]

On 8/15/2024 at 9:21 PM, WizardLookingDude said:

Wow! I was surprised to see that:

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During the cuckold training quest, the mod detected the presence of a cum layer on the wife and incorporated it into the dialogue for the quest.

"But your pussy is dripping with cum."

I know that dialogue didn't exist when I did the quest before. This time a convenient dragon attack triggered a scene (from SLEN) before we made it to the inn.

That's impressive. I'd love to see more of that kind of thing. (I am now wondering if there is more, and I've just missed it.)

 

There are lots of random comments on visible cum. but this is the first time I've incorporated it into any player dialogue. There will be a lot more stages of the cuckold quest, and more opportunities for this kind of dialogue in that quest, but I'm not sure where else it could be used.

[Gristle]

On 8/15/2024 at 11:13 PM, ToeCutter23 said:

Would it be feasible to add "open marriage" to pc/spouse relationship type, combining "pc/spouse sharing spouse/pc"-iterations (ie. both being okay with the other one fucking around, content in the knowledge they will return to each others embrace).

 

Yes, it's a bit of a pain (tweaking conditions on a thousand comments), but it makes sense. Open marriage is a pretty good way to describe it. Although the current "likes to share" goes a bit beyond just "open" in that the spouse actively encourages it. But, that's probably clearer (and shorter) than saying "Both PC and spouse like to share the other" which probably wouldn't fit in the MCM space.

 

In the meantime, choosing "PC likes to share spouse" gets you very very close. With this setting, both PC and spouse can approach NPCs, and both will be approached by NPCs. The PC can also solicit sex for their spouse with this setting, and PCs can also redirect NPCs approaching them to their spouse. And, the PC will get threesome approaches (PC/NPC/spouse) with this setting. So, the only thing that would really change would be that many of the random NPC and spouse comments would have to be different, as they would reflect that the spouse is the "hotwife" with the "PC likes to share spouse" setting, and not both the spouse and the PC.

[Gristle]

14 hours ago, Sicumbaka said:

what is SLSF init patch? what does it do

Do you mean this?

 

 

I'm not certain, as I've never used it. But it appears to be addressing an issue where SLSF fame stops increasing. I have never had that issue. 

 

Also, for those having issues with SLSF, note that a post in the SLSF thread claims a conflict with the dyndolod plugin dll. 

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/54621-sex-lab-sexual-fame-framework/?do=findComment&comment=4144626

 

 

[51offthescale]

On 8/17/2024 at 11:11 PM, Gristle said:

It's not a variable that's automatically increased by SLSF. So, unlike other SLSF variables, it won't go up just because NPCs are nearby watching. Instead, it goes up when an NPC makes a "cheating" type comment about the PC having sex with someone who is not their spouse. And NPCs won't make those comments unless they know your PC is cheating, and NPCs won't know your PC is cheating unless (1) the PC is wearing a wedding ring, OR (2) the PC's cheating (sadic) fame is already 10+ (in the location). 

What you've described is what I expected.

 

On my current playthrough I've been playing around with gain multiplier values at 0.5 and 0.7. NPCs have made many cheating comments during sex but my sadic fame has stayed at 0 the whole time. As soon as I increased the gain multiplier to 1 sadic fame started increasing as expected.

 

Update:
I believe the problem lies within SLSF.
This mod uses the function IncreaseCheatingFame within SLSFC_Access_SLSF where nAmount is always 1.
 

Function IncreaseCheatingFame(int nAmount) Global
    SLSF_CompatibilityScript SLSF = GetSLSFAPI()
    If SLSF != None
        SLSF.RequestModFameValueByCurrent(1, 15, nAmount)
    EndIf               
EndFunction

 

Following SLSF.RequestModFameValueByCurrent down you end up at ModFameValueByNum in SLSF_FameMaintenance which call outs to ApplyFameMod:
 

Int Function ApplyFameMod(Int Value)
	Float Total
	If Value > 0
		Total = Value * Config.LocationFameModInc
	Else
		Total = Value * Config.LocationFameModDec
	EndIf
	
	Return (Total As Int)
EndFunction

I assume the cast to Int is what is screwing things up here, its probably taking the floor of Total so the value that fame is being increased by is always 0. I should try with my gain multiplier set to 0.9 to be sure.

 

Update 2:
This could probably be fixed by changing the SLSF.RequestModFameValueByCurrent call to SLSF.RequestModFameValueByCurrent(1, 15, nAmount, False) as that should always increase sadic fame by 1 regardless of user settings.

 

Update 3:
Making the above change appears to have worked. Sadic fame now increases with a gain multiplier <1.
Here is the compiled script with source:
SLSFC No mult for sadic fame.7z

@Gristle Up to you if you want to incorporate this change or maybe just leave a note on the mod page that sadic fame won't increase if SLSF gain multiplier is <1.

Edited August 18, 2024 by 51offthescale

[kklae]

12 hours ago, Gristle said:

Are you running other mods with random hello or idle dialogue? That could be a factor.

Well, I think so, I use some other similar mods, maybe that's the reason.
So far, I think 3.64 works well, although the number of comments has dropped, but the new marriage content has given me more experience.
I try to keep saving frequently now, although it is a bit troublesome, but it basically ensures that I can always go back to a very new working save if I encounter problems.

[WizardLookingDude]

21 hours ago, Gristle said:

The spouse shouldn't change out of tavern clothes until you ask her to. Do you have a follower framework controlling her outfit? But the clothes aren't essential to the quest or the approaches.

 

She will "sandbox" in inns during this quest stage. She might sit far from males, but the "approach" dialogue (hers and the NPCs) has a range of 700 units, which should cover the main room of an inn. I can prevent her from sitting, but then she just stands in one place and it looks dumb.

 

The approaches during this stage are just the regular approaches, and are governed by the normal MCM settings, including approach frequency, so you may want to adjust these. She will continue to sandbox like this in inns until approached, but these approaches can also happen outside in cities and towns and other places. But the quest should update to stage 70 once an approach to or from her results in sex.

It all works fine now. I went back to an earlier save (before my character got married). As far as I know, the only significant thing that I changed was that I used the mod's marriage system instead of the vanilla marriage system. I don't know if that was the cause or if it was because something in my save got corrupted, but everything seems to work fine, now. The quest progresses as it should.

[WizardLookingDude]

20 hours ago, Gristle said:

There are lots of random comments on visible cum. but this is the first time I've incorporated it into any player dialogue. There will be a lot more stages of the cuckold quest, and more opportunities for this kind of dialogue in that quest, but I'm not sure where else it could be used.

That's fair. The scene felt very immersive to me, and I always appreciate anything that helps draw me deeper into the characters' story.  Thanks for that.

[WizardLookingDude]

I have a quick question. I noticed that NymphoElf just released the beta version of SLSF Reloaded. The page for that mod says this one is supported. I just wanted to clarify. Is that already true, or is it planned for the near the future? I think I'm going to have a start a new game to try that one out, and I don't want to do that until I know that both of these mods will work together.

 

[Edit: I was being stupid. The answer is in the comments for SLSF Reloaded. They aren't compatible, yet, but could/should be in the future. My thanks to both of you. I think I just got a little too excited at the idea of a replacement for Versh's wonderful but buggy fame tracking mod.]

Edited August 18, 2024 by WizardLookingDude
I was stupid

[GreaseHole]

how do i fix the naked comments even when I'm wearing clothes? i tried following the instructions in the description but i still get the comments

[StrayHALO_MAN]

Please add an option to disable anything related to serana in this mod.

I have Serana Dialogue Addon and I don't want this mod messing with her.

[Gristle]

6 hours ago, GreaseHole said:

how do i fix the naked comments even when I'm wearing clothes? i tried following the instructions in the description but i still get the comments

There shouldn't be any naked comments when you are wearing clothes. The only things that would cause that would be 1) your clothes are not standard and don't have a "ClothingBody" keyword, or 2) you have the "Skimpy" or "Topless" outfit toggles enabled in the SLSFC MCM (in which case you will get similar comments).

Edited August 19, 2024 by Gristle

[Gristle]

23 minutes ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

Please add an option to disable anything related to serana in this mod.

I have Serana Dialogue Addon and I don't want this mod messing with her.

You can disable her events with an MCM toggle. (They wouldn't occur until after the main DG quest ends in any case.) You can disable her comments by disabling follower comments in the MCM.

[Raven 54]

@Gristle Thank You for this work and sharing it! I just found it and am using on my current game, Love It. Keep up the good work.     

[WizardLookingDude]

1 hour ago, GreaseHole said:

how do i fix the naked comments even when I'm wearing clothes? i tried following the instructions in the description but i still get the comments

This is only tangentially related to your comment, but if you meant that you're getting comments about your character finally getting dressed, you should know that there is a bug with the SLSF framework that causes helmets and other headgear to mark your character as naked (check for active magical effects, and see if it says you're naked). The only way to fix this right now is to tell SLSF to exclude that specific piece of headgear from consideration (but then tattoos and cum effects will "show through"). To do that, hit config key (down arrow by default), and add the item to the excluded list (note: it might not be possible to undo this).

[Guest]

Hi! is it possible to make a verions witch will work with brand new Sexual Fame Reloaded?

The old Sexual Fame framework is a hard requirmen now

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Sicumbaka