SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[bobleez]

Just wanted to thank you guys for getting back to me so quickly and being so helpful.   I asked this question in the voice pack thread, but I just wanted to ask here too incase someone knew the answer.   

 

I'm now trying to implement the voices files for Fame Comments into my load order.  As it's 4gb of loose files, it was recommended to pack them into a BA to address long load times.  I'm trying to pack the SLSF Fame Comments voice files into a BSA with Cathedral Asset Optimizer but I'm having issues.  Its my first time doing this so I expected to be lost, but I digress.  So what I'm doing is the below:

 

1. I copied the sound folder (which holds the voice folder, which holds the SLSFFFamecomments.esp folder, ect) from the downloaded ZIP folder and transferred them to a seperate work folder.

2. I open Cathedral Asset Optimizer and change the directory to that very sound folder I just copied over.   I check over the settings I included in the picture below.

3. I then hit run, and the thing says done in like a second.  

 

I know I'm doing something wrong because I don't see any output BSA/dummy esp file anywhere.  And I know for like a set of 4gb loose files, it should take a while.  Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong? 

 

Also, I heard that BSA files have a cap of 2gb.  Considering the loose files in this pack are larger, is there anything I should know/do accordingly to make this work?

 

[tontoman]

On 2/26/2023 at 4:59 PM, bobleez said:

Just wanted to thank you guys for getting back to me so quickly and being so helpful.   I asked this question in the voice pack thread, but I just wanted to ask here too incase someone knew the answer.   

 

I'm now trying to implement the voices files for Fame Comments into my load order.  As it's 4gb of loose files, it was recommended to pack them into a BA to address long load times.  I'm trying to pack the SLSF Fame Comments voice files into a BSA with Cathedral Asset Optimizer but I'm having issues.  Its my first time doing this so I expected to be lost, but I digress.  So what I'm doing is the below:

 

1. I copied the sound folder (which holds the voice folder, which holds the SLSFFFamecomments.esp folder, ect) from the downloaded ZIP folder and transferred them to a seperate work folder.

2. I open Cathedral Asset Optimizer and change the directory to that very sound folder I just copied over.   I check over the settings I included in the picture below.

3. I then hit run, and the thing says done in like a second.  

 

I know I'm doing something wrong because I don't see any output BSA/dummy esp file anywhere.  And I know for like a set of 4gb loose files, it should take a while.  Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong? 

 

Also, I heard that BSA files have a cap of 2gb.  Considering the loose files in this pack are larger, is there anything I should know/do accordingly to make this work?

 

Just tried it myself, yeah there's a file structure change you have to do as I got the exact same thing you did first go.  After the fix, all 6 cores maxed out and my RGB lighting turned yellow as temp got to 65c lolz.  Usually under 40.

 

So the change is put the 'sound' directory into a folder 'Data'.  So Data/sound/ after you've done it.  Then when you do the BSA creation just aim it at the Data folder.  It's just needing the skyrim directory format.  And it also splits it for the 2GB limit.

 

Edited February 28, 2023 by tontoman

[bobleez]

@tontoman Omg holy crap it worked.  Thank you so much for figuring this out, I was pulling my hair out on why I couldn't get CAO to work.  How did you end up figuring out that CAO required the skyrim directory format anyway?

[tontoman]

4 hours ago, bobleez said:

@tontoman Omg holy crap it worked.  Thank you so much for figuring this out, I was pulling my hair out on why I couldn't get CAO to work.  How did you end up figuring out that CAO required the skyrim directory format anyway?

Hehe going trough the docs.  Thoroughly written out, but with no examples and examples are so good for easy to miss stuff.  Hit some german example doing something totally different (textures I think), but it had the directory in a screen shot.  Which was enough for an AH HA moment lol.

[assassin394]

Sorry if this is a wrong place to ask but I don't know anywhere else to ask. I don't want to bother the armor mod author with something completely unrelated to his mod and it probably not a good idea to even mention this mod in nexus comment section.

So I'm using this lovely Asura's Guard armor mod from nexus. I always got a message. Your fame increases in this location. Even when I have all the armor piece equipped. Chest piece, bottom...etc. But my character is not naked. There is no naked comment from NPC. They will say something like: I'm glad you finally cover up your slutty body. I want to see your beautiful breasts. So clearly NPCs do not perceive me as naked but for some reason I'm still constantly get the your fame in this location increase notification and it appear to be exhibitionist fame.

Anyone know how can I fix this? Basically, I don't want my exhibitionist fame increase when I'm wearing this armor.

Edited March 17, 2023 by assassin394

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, assassin394 said:

So I'm using this lovely Asura's Guard armor mod from nexus. I always got a message. Your fame increases in this location. Even when I have all the armor piece equipped. Chest piece, bottom...etc. But my character is not naked. There is no naked comment from NPC. They will say something like: I'm glad you finally cover up your slutty body. I want to see your beautiful breasts. So clearly NPCs do not perceive me as naked but for some reason I'm still constantly get the your fame in this location increase notification and it appear to be exhibitionist fame.

Anyone know how can I fix this? Basically, I don't want my exhibitionist fame increase when I'm wearing this armor.

 

It could be related to a long-standing helmet bug in SLSF. If you wear a helmet, SLSF thinks you are naked for Exhibition fame gain purposes. There are two fixes for the helmet issue: 1) install Devious Devices, that alone fixes it, or 2) add the helmet to the SLSF Excluded List, which I believe you can do by putting on the helmet, using the down arrow hotkey to bring up the in-game radial menu, and then selecting "Add Excluded."

 

Also, under the SLSF rules, Exhibitionism fame will increase not only due to actual nudity, but also from visible tattoos, cum and devices. So if you are wearing visible tattoos, for example, even makeup, then you will start accruing Exhibitionism fame. If that's the issue, there's a previous post somewhere here that explains how you can exclude tattoos from fame gain as well.

 

If all else fails, you can always turn off Exhibitionism-fame-based comments in the SLSFC MCM. You'll still get comments based solely on actual nudity.

[assassin394]

2 hours ago, Gristle said:

It could be related to a long-standing helmet bug in SLSF. If you wear a helmet, SLSF thinks you are naked for Exhibition fame gain purposes. There are two fixes for the helmet issue: 1) install Devious Devices, that alone fixes it, or 2) add the helmet to the SLSF Excluded List, which I believe you can do by putting on the helmet, using the down arrow hotkey to bring up the in-game radial menu, and then selecting "Add Excluded."

 

Also, under the SLSF rules, Exhibitionism fame will increase not only due to actual nudity, but also from visible tattoos, cum and devices. So if you are wearing visible tattoos, for example, even makeup, then you will start accruing Exhibitionism fame. If that's the issue, there's a previous post somewhere here that explains how you can exclude tattoos from fame gain as well.

 

If all else fails, you can always turn off Exhibitionism-fame-based comments in the SLSFC MCM. You'll still get comments based solely on actual nudity.

Thank you. But the issue happens even when I'm not wearing a helmet. My character doesn't have any tattoos or device. And it only happens with this armor only. If I wear vanilla armor or any armor from other mod. There is no fame gain. 

 Isn't the Add Excluded feature when press down is to mark an armor piece as revealing/skimpy? At least that is what I think from the description...

Edited March 18, 2023 by assassin394

[Seeker999]

8 minutes ago, assassin394 said:

And it only happens with this armor only

Try opening it in SSEdit and check the keywords for the armor you're using and what body slots it uses. I noticed from the pictures that some of the pieces are skimpy, so maybe the armor is tagged as skimpy or something.

[LynErso666]

3 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Thank you. But the issue happens even when I'm not wearing a helmet. My character doesn't have any tattoos or device. And it only happens with this armor only. If I wear vanilla armor or any armor from other mod. There is no fame gain. 

 Isn't the Add Excluded feature when press down is to mark an armor piece as revealing/skimpy? At least that is what I think from the description...

It is very possible this is due to a keyword on the armor itself. I'd have to download it to check, but you can in XEdit. Or if you're using OSLAroused, it detects Baka keywords or SLS or most keywords just fine, and you can tick and untick them from the armor. The change is permanent to that save.

[LynErso666]

9 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Sorry if this is a wrong place to ask but I don't know anywhere else to ask. I don't want to bother the armor mod author with something completely unrelated to his mod and it probably not a good idea to even mention this mod in nexus comment section.

So I'm using this lovely Asura's Guard armor mod from nexus. I always got a message. Your fame increases in this location. Even when I have all the armor piece equipped. Chest piece, bottom...etc. But my character is not naked. There is no naked comment from NPC. They will say something like: I'm glad you finally cover up your slutty body. I want to see your beautiful breasts. So clearly NPCs do not perceive me as naked but for some reason I'm still constantly get the your fame in this location increase notification and it appear to be exhibitionist fame.

Anyone know how can I fix this? Basically, I don't want my exhibitionist fame increase when I'm wearing this armor.

 

Also! What GUI mod is THAT!? That is siiiiiick lol. I must know it

[Gristle]

17 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Thank you. But the issue happens even when I'm not wearing a helmet. My character doesn't have any tattoos or device. And it only happens with this armor only. If I wear vanilla armor or any armor from other mod. There is no fame gain. 

 Isn't the Add Excluded feature when press down is to mark an armor piece as revealing/skimpy? At least that is what I think from the description...

I think the next thing to do is to look at your active Magic Effects. SLSF generates magic effects for the conditions that generate Exhibitionism fame, like "Tats in Sight" etc. Those should give you a good clue as to what is causing the issue.

 

Generally speaking, my understanding of the Add Excluded feature is that it doesn't allow the item to cover something underneath it, but I know that it can also be used to exclude tattoos so they don't trigger Exhibitionism fame. For example, the Scars and Stockings categories are excluded by default and will not cause fame gain.

[assassin394]

On 3/18/2023 at 11:11 AM, LynErso666 said:

It is very possible this is due to a keyword on the armor itself. I'd have to download it to check, but you can in XEdit. Or if you're using OSLAroused, it detects Baka keywords or SLS or most keywords just fine, and you can tick and untick them from the armor. The change is permanent to that save.

Thank you. Do you know what specific keyword I should looking for? I don't see anything strange in SSEEdit. Unfornately I'm usingg SL Aroused not OSLAroused so that is not an option.

11 hours ago, Gristle said:

I think the next thing to do is to look at your active Magic Effects. SLSF generates magic effects for the conditions that generate Exhibitionism fame, like "Tats in Sight" etc. Those should give you a good clue as to what is causing the issue.

 

Generally speaking, my understanding of the Add Excluded feature is that it doesn't allow the item to cover something underneath it, but I know that it can also be used to exclude tattoos so they don't trigger Exhibitionism fame. For example, the Scars and Stockings categories are excluded by default and will not cause fame gain.

Strange. I check the magic effect as you say and there is naked effect there. But how come NPC won't react to my character nudity. They still think I'm wearing clothes. But I'm still gain Exhibitionism fame.  How do I remedy this?

Is there a way to just turn off exhibitionism fame gain? I can turn the comment and event off but I'm still gain fame. I know I can turn off fame gain notification in SL Fame too but I prefer to keep that on so I know when I gain fame for other "activity"

 

Edited March 19, 2023 by assassin394

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Strange. I check the magic effect as you say and there is naked effect there. But how come NPC won't react to my character nudity. They still think I'm wearing clothes. But I'm still gain Exhibitionism fame.  How do I remedy this?

The "Naked" magic effect is being generated by SLSF. SLSF does not appear to be using the vanilla system of detecting nudity, which is: If the PC is not wearing something with either a "ArmorCuirass" keyword or a "ClothingBody" keyword, then the PC is considered naked. I'm not sure what system it's using. Maybe it's checking for something in the 32 (body) body slot? 

 

As for NPC reactions generated by this mod (SLSF Fame Comments), it uses the vanilla naked detect system described above. I do use the SLSF magic effects for detecting cum, tats, dirt, and devices, and I could have also used the SLSF 'Naked' magic effect, but because of the helmet bug described above, I decided to go with the vanilla system. So, NPC reactions to your current state of dress/undress will be correct, but Exhibitionism fame game is internal to SLSF, and is using the SLSF magic effects, or at least the same system.

 

I see the armor has an ArmorCuirass keyword, so that's fine. I don't know much about armor. Maybe check the body slot next? Or, try installing Devious Devices. If that fixes the helmet=naked magic effect bug, maybe it will fix this bug too.

 

12 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Is there a way to just turn off exhibitionism fame gain? I can turn the comment and event off but I'm still gain fame. I know I can turn off fame gain notification in SL Fame too but I prefer to keep that on so I know when I gain fame for other "activity"

I don't know any way to do this, but you can turn off (in the SLSFC MCM) all comments (and events) in this mod that are primarily based on Exhibitionism fame.  So, effectively, the Exhibitionism fame gain will have no meaning (at least for this mod) if you turn off that switch, but you'll still get appropriate comments (and events) on state of dress/undress.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Gristle

[assassin394]

Damn.  Something very strange is going on here. This is the only armor mod have this problem. If I equip only the chest piece (cuirass) then there is no naked effect in magic tab. But when I equip any other armor piece. There is naked effect

As you can see in the picture my character is almost naked and wearing only the chest piece. No naked effect. But with all the piece equipped. There is naked effect. I have enable armor slot info in SkyUI so you can see all the item armor slot there also. The Curaiss is slot 59 while the Bra is slot 32 which typical use for body?

I really like this armor set so I hope this can be fix somehow?

Edited March 20, 2023 by assassin394

[Gristle]

9 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Damn.  Something very strange is going on here. This is the only armor mod have this problem. If I equip only the chest piece (cuirass) then there is no naked effect in magic tab. But when I equip any other armor piece. There is naked effect

As you can see in the picture my character is almost naked and wearing only the chest piece. No naked effect. But with all the piece equipped. There is naked effect. I have enable armor slot info in SkyUI so you can see all the item armor slot there also. The Curaiss is slot 59 while the Bra is slot 32 which typical use for body?

I really like this armor set so I hope this can be fix somehow?

I know it sounds stupid, but I would try installing Devious Devices. The issue seems similar to the helmet bug that DD fixes, i.e., put on some armor, everything is fine, add another armor piece, suddenly SLSF thinks you are naked. 

 

Or try to 'exclude' the armor pieces that are triggering the Naked effect using the SLSF in-game radial menu. It may stop SLSF from considering them for all relevant purposes. 

[LynErso666]

10 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Damn.  Something very strange is going on here. This is the only armor mod have this problem. If I equip only the chest piece (cuirass) then there is no naked effect in magic tab. But when I equip any other armor piece. There is naked effect

As you can see in the picture my character is almost naked and wearing only the chest piece. No naked effect. But with all the piece equipped. There is naked effect. I have enable armor slot info in SkyUI so you can see all the item armor slot there also. The Curaiss is slot 59 while the Bra is slot 32 which typical use for body?

I really like this armor set so I hope this can be fix somehow?

Omg yeah that is really wild. Definitely try installing DD 5.2. If you were trying to avoid the big ass thing your load order, worry not, it ain't that bad. Nice tiny simple MCM too. I tried also to avoid it but many Sexlab mods need it. I been using it for years and years now, so if you need help with DD or even just the install or links. Whatevs. Just hmu. 
 

Edited March 20, 2023 by LynErso666

[assassin394]

I don't like bdsm and I literaly have zero mod that use DD. The mod is 2GB in size so install DD just to fix this seem overkill BUT I did it anyway for science and the game crash on load with DD installed....

 After that I try 'exclude' the armor pieces that are triggering the naked effect and it work. hooray. Thank you both for all the help.

Edited March 21, 2023 by assassin394

[alain31]

Hello,
I noticed an incompatibility with this mod and baka's Sexlab Approach Redux.
If i activate your mod, i no longer have any possible interaction with an npc who follows me to have relations.
With Sexlab Approach Redux, an npc approaches the player for favors, so far so good, the dialogue works but after this interaction i can no longer target the npc, no more action is possible.
The npc, in this case for the test, a solitude guard follows me everywhere but his name no longer appears and i can no longer interact with him.
Everything works fine if i disable slsf fame comments.
I don't see where the problem can come from, no conflict in ssedit and i have all the requirements except that i have the baka version of sexlab aroused.
anyone else noticed this bug?

 

edit:

I made a mistake, the bug comes from baka's mod. the problem persists even without your mod. sorry.

Edited March 21, 2023 by alain31

[Karkhel]

I assume this is something I can't do directly in this mod as I don't see txt files or json files or form id list, but is there maybe some kind of tag I could put on an item or something, to basically ignore some weapons for the purpose of protection? The deal is, I think it would be very neat to have this interaction with SL survival where without a licence it only lets you carry stuff like axe for chopping wood, or knives from hunterborn in terms of weapons. Unless this mod already ignores the axe then I'm a doofoos. This is not really a feature suggestion and more like a question if someone knows of a way to achieve that without scripts, its not a deal breaker or a huge deal at all for this mod to not have this.

[LynErso666]

On 3/20/2023 at 5:04 PM, assassin394 said:

I don't like bdsm and I literaly have zero mod that use DD. The mod is 2GB in size so install DD just to fix this seem overkill BUT I did it anyway for science and the game crash on load with DD installed....

 After that I try 'exclude' the armor pieces that are triggering the naked effect and it work. hooray. Thank you both for all the help.

O thaz understandable. And glad you found a resolution! lol But I also had DD 52 crash on load up. For whateva reason the "for him" extra used to just ctd one of my load orders and Idk why. It works on this load order, but I also dk why. Thaz just how being blonde and modding goes for me tho. lol

But waaaaaait, did you say where you got that UI for Skyrim? Idk...I may have just gotten lost in the comments. It looks so kewwwwl

Edited March 26, 2023 by LynErso666

[LynErso666]

On 3/21/2023 at 12:34 PM, Karkhel said:

I assume this is something I can't do directly in this mod as I don't see txt files or json files or form id list, but is there maybe some kind of tag I could put on an item or something, to basically ignore some weapons for the purpose of protection? The deal is, I think it would be very neat to have this interaction with SL survival where without a licence it only lets you carry stuff like axe for chopping wood, or knives from hunterborn in terms of weapons. Unless this mod already ignores the axe then I'm a doofoos. This is not really a feature suggestion and more like a question if someone knows of a way to achieve that without scripts, its not a deal breaker or a huge deal at all for this mod to not have this.

Wait isn't there a keyword for certain things? Might have to list the esp as dommed by this mod's esp, but yee. Or wait, I could be thinking of Sexlab Survival, yeee. Idk if this mod uses keywords for the weapons and licenses...hmmm Maybe an effect or something this mod uses can be applied to weapons in other esps to say the PC dont have a weapon or something.

[assassin394]

16 hours ago, LynErso666 said:

O thaz understandable. And glad you found a resolution! lol But I also had DD 52 crash on load up. For whateva reason the "for him" extra used to just ctd one of my load orders and Idk why. It works on this load order, but I also dk why. Thaz just how being blonde and modding goes for me tho. lol

But waaaaaait, did you say where you got that UI for Skyrim? Idk...I may have just gotten lost in the comments. It looks so kewwwwl

Sorry. Its not lost in the comments. I just forgot to mention it. The UI mod is Dear Diary Dark Mode

[Khrusaor]

First of all, thank you for this wonderful mod!

It would be great to see more Serana comments related to Valerica and events with the two of them. 
Some more comments about gargoyles, skeevers, draugrs and spiders would also be nice.

 

Edited April 1, 2023 by Khrusaor

[Puckman340]

When I accept a follower's offer, I sometimes get additional notifications like "she tries to claw at your face" when the animation starts up. Is this caused by a specific fame trait (i.e. Dominant or Sadic)?

[ThatOneSpiderPhoenix]

Apologies if this has already been asked and answered earlier in the thread but I didn't find it in my cursory search. So normally having a weapon equipped protects you against forced events from this mod; however, it doesn't seem to protect me from my followers deciding to strip and/or tie up my character in public at random, inconvenient and annoying times. (almost froze to death on the Windhelm docks one time because of this) Is there a way to change that, or disable those specific events? Thanks.

 

Edit: One more issue I've had: accepting a follower's sex offer seems to be considered rape by sexlab, triggering the separate strip and animation rules I've set up for non-consensual encounters and negatively impacting their disposition. (Mjoll's relationship rank actually dropped from lover to ally after I made the mistake of agreeing to sex with her in this mod's events too many times) I'm not sure whether it's this mod or some kind of conflict or mistake I made with my sexlab installation, but if anyone has had similar problems, I would love to hear if there's an easy solution. Very much enjoy most aspects of the mod and would prefer not to have to remove it.

Edited April 6, 2023 by ThatOneSpiderPhoenix