SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[Isildur1235]

Markarth Quest is definitely an interesting addition with a very funny outcome in the shape of obligatory nakedness in the city, so very good job. It would be even better, to have similar quests in all holds with the same consequences (Obligatory nakedness in the city. If you are running around naked, you will have to stay that way). 

[Gristle]

On 4/18/2023 at 7:11 AM, leopardus said:

Yes.  That quest was so funny. Any plans for the future of these quests?

Yes. The plan is to create a similar quest for each hold, based on the theme of the fame-type that triggered the Jarl warning in the hold.

[Gristle]

1 hour ago, Isildur1235 said:

Markarth Quest is definitely an interesting addition with a very funny outcome in the shape of obligatory nakedness in the city, so very good job. It would be even better, to have similar quests in all holds with the same consequences (Obligatory nakedness in the city. If you are running around naked, you will have to stay that way). 

Thanks! It was a fun quest to build. I tried to mix the comments theme of this mod with a more standard quest. Did you finish the quest? It hasn't been extensively play-tested, so let me know if you had any issues (non-spoiler please). 

 

I like the obligatory nakedness concept, and do plan to make quests for the other holds, but didn't want to repeat the same themes exactly. That idea just seemed to fit the whole Temple of Dibella theme in Markarth well. Also, mods like Public Whore do a great job with the obligatory nakedness theme too. Devious Followers can also end up stripping your PC every time you enter a city, which is another twist on the idea. And with high Exhibitionism fame, the "events" part of this mod will have NPCs stripping your PC pretty frequently in cities as well.

 

So, I'd like to do different things in different holds, ideally centered around the fame that triggered the Jarl warning. In Markarth, it's just high Exhibitionism fame. In other holds, it might be high Slut fame, Anal fame, Beastiality fame, Masochism fame, etc. However, the Solitude Jarl warning is triggered by high Exhibitionism fame and high Slut fame (i.e., being a public slut), so that may have some similar elements.

[jc22]

Very nicely done. I enjoyed the Markarth quest well thought out and executed. 

A couple of things I had to fitz around with for mismatched textures on the actors, which I was never able to fix completely. One of these days I will update from LE to SE maybe......

Thanks for sharing your project, as it has brought me many hours of enjoyment.

[Gristle]

6 minutes ago, jc22 said:

Very nicely done. I enjoyed the Markarth quest well thought out and executed. 

A couple of things I had to fitz around with for mismatched textures on the actors, which I was never able to fix completely. One of these days I will update from LE to SE maybe......

Thanks for sharing your project, as it has brought me many hours of enjoyment.

Glad you liked it. Any bugs or difficulties with the Markarth quest? I assume you found the final location. Any issues there? That location originally had one SE custom texture, but I removed it for the LE version.

 

And, yes, I'm afraid I don't know how to add custom hair to NPCs properly without causing blackface issues. I guess there's not an LE equivalent of the Face Discoloration Fix mod?

[Nutz2718]

54 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Glad you liked it. Any bugs or difficulties with the Markarth quest? I assume you found the final location. Any issues there? That location originally had one SE custom texture, but I removed it for the LE version.

 

A fun quest!  A few issues:

• as already mentioned, running AE gives the girl a dark face and white body
• escorting the captain back had him disappearing on me intermittently.  Not exactly sure what happened.  I was walking back normally and all was well, then I got bored and fast traveled to Markarth.  The captain was no longer with me.  I fast traveled back to the approximate location where I traveled from, and he showed up.  Then disappeared shortly after.  Eventually I was able to get him to appear with the Jarl, so I was able to complete the quest.
• love the forced nudity thing...  Looking forward to future installments!
• For the quest marker location, I ran around randomly until her dialog changed to 'just over there' rather than 'find a field of flowers.'  Thing is, the location doesn't really have any more flowers than anywhere else in that area.
• Right now I'm stuck trying to find the poem in the Justiar's bedroom.  Any clues?

Thanks for all your hard work!

[Nutz2718]

7 minutes ago, Nutz2718 said:

• Right now I'm stuck trying to find the poem in the Justiar's bedroom.  Any clues?

 

Sorry, found it

[Gristle]

1 hour ago, Nutz2718 said:

• as already mentioned, running AE gives the girl a dark face and white body

Did you try the Face Discoloration Mod to fix? It works great on SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441

1 hour ago, Nutz2718 said:

• escorting the captain back had him disappearing on me intermittently.  Not exactly sure what happened.  I was walking back normally and all was well, then I got bored and fast traveled to Markarth.  The captain was no longer with me.  I fast traveled back to the approximate location where I traveled from, and he showed up.  Then disappeared shortly after.  Eventually I was able to get him to appear with the Jarl, so I was able to complete the quest.

He's technically not a "follower" but he does have a follow package.  When I run the quest and fast travel with him, he seems to show up a bit late, but he does show up.  However, when traveling, I've seen him get stuck on obstacles - once in the hunter's pond and once in the bandit cave. Could be a similar issue. I don't think this is really avoidable at it's a weakness in the Skyrim follow package.  

1 hour ago, Nutz2718 said:

• love the forced nudity thing...  Looking forward to future installments!

Now I just need to figure out how to do public (naked) punishments -- for the Solitude Jarl quest.  Also, did you check out the side quest of playing with Adrianne on one of her nightly walks in Whiterun? It's a continuing option after the quest ends, as are interactions with her in the shop, and also the interactions with Eorlund, and of course the interactions with Lilly and her friends. Undressing the priestesses in Markarth's temple is also a continuing option.

1 hour ago, Nutz2718 said:

• For the quest marker location, I ran around randomly until her dialog changed to 'just over there' rather than 'find a field of flowers.'  Thing is, the location doesn't really have any more flowers than anywhere else in that area.

 

Hmm. So, no quest marker for the field? There should be one and it shows up for me. I don't know what would interfere with that. The quest marker is really important, because, as you say, the flower reference doesn't help much (though with my flora mods, there is actually a field of flowers there). If this is a persistent problem, I could switch it around so she leads you, and not you lead her. Did the quest marker in the Solitude market square show up? It's programmed the same way as the flower field marker.

1 hour ago, Nutz2718 said:

• Right now I'm stuck trying to find the poem in the Justiar's bedroom.  Any clues?

I see you found it, so it's probably a good level of difficulty. Did you find the final location? Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Gristle

[Gristle]

Curious what folks think of possibly adding switches to the MCM to give players the option of designating certain physical attributes of their PC, so that existing NPC comments on the PC's body could adjust accordingly. A basic set of attribute switches for a female PC might look like the following:

 

PC Breasts - [ ] Large, [ ] Medium, [ ] Small

PC Butt - [ ] Large, [ ] Medium, [ ] Small

PC Pubic Hair - [ ] Muff, [ ] Shaved

 

Desired? Make sense? Anything missing? Probably a Medium setting on Breasts or Butt would not change any existing comments, but the Large or Small settings could generate new comments.

[DrSeptimus]

Is UIextension a hard requirement?

[Gristle]

47 minutes ago, DrSeptimus said:

Is UIextension a hard requirement?

No. SLSF will work without it, but you won't get the in-game wheel menu and thus won't be able to assign fame types to tattoos or exclude items from SLSF's various systems.

[liniul]

are there any voice files for this mod?

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, liniul said:

are there any voice files for this mod?

Yes. You can find a good list of voice packs here:  

 

 

[Unfrog12]

Just finished up the Markarth quest line...great work, Gristle. I really enjoyed that. Very much looking forward to more...which Hold is next, or is that a Big Secret?

[ellobo9999]

FYI, when I finished the Markarth quest line, Lily didn't stop following. When I checked her assigned ai packages in xedit there was one that wasn't forwarded by the KS Hair patch. After I forwarded it and loaded the game back up she stopped following.

 

Really enjoyed the quest and looking forward to the ones for the other cities. The only two things that were hard to find were the spot off the road between Dragonbridge and Solitude and what was considered the "center" of Solitude, but neither were quest breaking.

[Gristle]

8 hours ago, Unfrog12 said:

Just finished up the Markarth quest line...great work, Gristle. I really enjoyed that. Very much looking forward to more...which Hold is next, or is that a Big Secret?

Thanks. Did you get quest markers for the "secluded spot off the road" and the spot to start the final search in the Solitude square? They seem to not be showing up for some.

 

No big secret. I started on the beastiality fame quest in Whiterun, and I have some ideas for the exhibitionism fame/slut fame quest in Solitude, but I need to figure out how to do some public punishments for that one. Also, I have some ideas for a slut fame quest in Riften.

[Gristle]

6 hours ago, ellobo9999 said:

FYI, when I finished the Markarth quest line, Lily didn't stop following. When I checked her assigned ai packages in xedit there was one that wasn't forwarded by the KS Hair patch. After I forwarded it and loaded the game back up she stopped following.

I'm puzzled, because the KS Hair patch doesn't do anything but change hairs on NPCs. Maybe the file got corrupted? I can redo it and re-upload it.

6 hours ago, ellobo9999 said:

 

Really enjoyed the quest and looking forward to the ones for the other cities. The only two things that were hard to find were the spot off the road between Dragonbridge and Solitude and what was considered the "center" of Solitude, but neither were quest breaking.

Thanks. Those were not supposed to be puzzles or hunts. There should have been quest markers for those two spots. They show up for me. I'm not sure why not for others.  If it's a widespread problem, I can change the quest or change the dialogue to make the spots easier to find. Or, I can hopefully figure out what's causing them not to show up. Unlike the other quest markers in the quest, which apply to actors or to certain unique instances of objects, these two use "XMarkers" that I dropped in the world (so that I could pick an open spot with no objects).

 

Did you start the quest with a new game? Maybe these markers won't show up with a mid-game load?

 

Did anyone but me see these two quest markers? If so, was it on a new game?

[blahity]

8 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks. Did you get quest markers for the "secluded spot off the road" and the spot to start the final search in the Solitude square? They seem to not be showing up for some.

 

No big secret. I started on the beastiality fame quest in Whiterun, and I have some ideas for the exhibitionism fame/slut fame quest in Solitude, but I need to figure out how to do some public punishments for that one. Also, I have some ideas for a slut fame quest in Riften.

I imagine a bestiality quest would also work well in Winterhold because of all those mages conjuring atronachs.

[Unfrog12]

10 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks. Did you get quest markers for the "secluded spot off the road" and the spot to start the final search in the Solitude square? They seem to not be showing up for some.

 

No big secret. I started on the beastiality fame quest in Whiterun, and I have some ideas for the exhibitionism fame/slut fame quest in Solitude, but I need to figure out how to do some public punishments for that one. Also, I have some ideas for a slut fame quest in Riften.

 

Got the markers. As far as I could tell everything worked perfectly. I'm on AE if that matters.

[Kage777]

On 4/23/2023 at 8:16 PM, Gristle said:

Curious what folks think of possibly adding switches to the MCM to give players the option of designating certain physical attributes of their PC, so that existing NPC comments on the PC's body could adjust accordingly. A basic set of attribute switches for a female PC might look like the following:

 

PC Breasts - [ ] Large, [ ] Medium, [ ] Small

PC Butt - [ ] Large, [ ] Medium, [ ] Small

PC Pubic Hair - [ ] Muff, [ ] Shaved

 

Desired? Make sense? Anything missing? Probably a Medium setting on Breasts or Butt would not change any existing comments, but the Large or Small settings could generate new comments.

Needs male options as well or just things for people who play with trans females. Honestly been trying to edit the Markarth quest/various lines so that it can be done by male PC as well but I'm not having much luck sadly.

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, Kage777 said:

Needs male options as well or just things for people who play with trans females. Honestly been trying to edit the Markarth quest/various lines so that it can be done by male PC as well but I'm not having much luck sadly.

I thought about male PCs, but then I wondered: who is really playing a male PC with a small penis, or less a than heroic chest or whatever else you might track? It just seemed there would be more variation in female PCs. But I could be wrong. What would you track for a male PC?

 

As for the Markarth quest, I thought about making it work for a male PC as well. Obviously, no reason a male PC can't be an exhibitionist. As far as gay/straight preferences, I'm pretty sure every sex scenario in the quest can be avoided by the PC except for one PC/female encounter, so no real issues there, though the Eorlund encounter would be pretty gay if you didn't have 1500 gold. Also, the Jarl sending a male PC to fetch the Captain would also be a bit odd, given that he is shown to be interested in females throughout the quest (and has sex options with the PC). Again, it could work, but then would he be attracted to the male PC as well? Fine by me, but I don't know what other's gay/straight preferences would be. 

 

Also, I struggled with the second part of the quest, where the PC is sort of acting as a mentor for Lilly. It just seemed that would come off differently if it was a male trying to persuade a young woman to get naked, as opposed to another female. Not that it couldn't work, but the conversations would have to be different for sure.  Also, the encounter with Rolf in Dragon Bridge would play different if the PC was male. I can't imagine Rolf being as aggressive as he currently is with two naked girls.  So, I could alter the quest for a male PC if there was interest, but it would be a bit different in character, and I'm not entirely sure how to resolve the whole gay/straight preference thing.

Edited April 25, 2023 by Gristle

[Isildur1235]

On 4/19/2023 at 7:00 PM, Gristle said:

Thanks! It was a fun quest to build. I tried to mix the comments theme of this mod with a more standard quest. Did you finish the quest? It hasn't been extensively play-tested, so let me know if you had any issues (non-spoiler please). 

 

I like the obligatory nakedness concept, and do plan to make quests for the other holds, but didn't want to repeat the same themes exactly. That idea just seemed to fit the whole Temple of Dibella theme in Markarth well. Also, mods like Public Whore do a great job with the obligatory nakedness theme too. Devious Followers can also end up stripping your PC every time you enter a city, which is another twist on the idea. And with high Exhibitionism fame, the "events" part of this mod will have NPCs stripping your PC pretty frequently in cities as well.

 

So, I'd like to do different things in different holds, ideally centered around the fame that triggered the Jarl warning. In Markarth, it's just high Exhibitionism fame. In other holds, it might be high Slut fame, Anal fame, Beastiality fame, Masochism fame, etc. However, the Solitude Jarl warning is triggered by high Exhibitionism fame and high Slut fame (i.e., being a public slut), so that may have some similar elements.

 

Well there were some issues with the dark faces and there were no quest marks, also the secluded spot off the road was difficult to find as I didn't see any flowers. But otherwise it all worked well. If you are going to make more such quests I am sure it will be appreciated, also it would be cool to make some for male characters but hey that could be just a minor addition as I am sure that female characters are played much more than male characters in this game anyway .    

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, Isildur1235 said:

 

Well there were some issues with the dark faces and there were no quest marks, also the secluded spot off the road was difficult to find as I didn't see any flowers. But otherwise it all worked well. If you are going to make more such quests I am sure it will be appreciated, also it would be cool to make some for male characters but hey that could be just a minor addition as I am sure that female characters are played much more than male characters in this game anyway .    

Thanks for the feedback. Did you try the Face Discoloration Fix mod? Was the blackface there with or without the KS Hair patch?

 

As for the quest markers, I assume the only missing ones were the "secluded spot off the road" and the Solitude market square, correct? They should be there, and are showing up for me and others, and yet are not showing up for you and others, and I'm wondering why. Did you start mid-game? LE or SE or AE?

 

As for male PC quests, I'm all for it, but I'm discovering it's hard to make an immersive quest that works equally well for both male and female PCs. Part of it is the straight/gay sex preference thing, and part of it is just good old gender bias and stereotypes.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Gristle

[Isildur1235]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

Thanks for the feedback. Did you try the Face Discoloration Fix mod? Was the blackface there with or without the KS Hair patch?

 

As for the quest markers, I assume the only missing ones were the "secluded spot off the road" and the Solitude market square, correct? They should be there, and are showing up for me and others, and yet are not showing up for you and others, and I'm wondering why. Did you start mid-game? LE or SE or AE?

 

As for male PC quests, I'm all for it, but I'm discovering it's hard to make an immersive quest that works equally well for both male and female PCs. Part of it is the straight/gay sex preference thing, and part of it is just good old gender bias and stereotypes.

I don't use Face Discoloration Fix mod, so I might try it, if it fix those black faces. As for KS Hair I use newest version without patch. And I started mid-game where the previous version of the mod was already installed and I just updated it, so that could be a cause of that missing marker, well I managed to find that spot anyway in the end, so it didn't stop me from completing the quest. And I play skyrim AE.

[Gristle]

For those of you -- like me -- who overlooked it in the SLSF MCM (in my case, for years), there is an SLSF option (in the in-game radial menu) to give yourself a set of Debug Spells, and one of these spells allows you to manually set SLSF fame in any location and any category to any level. Handy for me for testing, and I assume handy for other purposes as well. Versh really did think of everything.