Lovers RaperS - WappyOne's Edition 1.80

[kingkong]

finaly had time to test something  !!!  and i find your mod nuts enogh to like !!!        the jock is with playerslaveEncounter   after beeing slaved :  i found my character, while chained,  had the possibility to rape with the keyboard key, and was able to turn the slaver to my sextoy slave

[rynak777]

finally found the mod that delays...

 

its LoversSetScale (dont remember the version, should be the latest one) or say the Update3DState func.

 

after I disabled that MOD, victim.kill just worked...

 

Setscale - the old as well as the various new "revised" versions, are all buggy in many different kinds of ways. I'd recommend not using it at all. If you're concerned about the conflicting sizes of races, then:

 

1. Learn simple basics about using TES construction set (basics as in: Knowing how to launch it, knowing how to select races from the menu, and then knowing how to press the keys "1"-"."-"0" on your keyboard.  It would also be useful to know how to enter a filename in a save dialog)

 

2. Knowing how to use wryebash: Put your new plugin with the changed race scales right above the bashed patch - then merge it into the patch.

 

Done! Equal race sizes without any buggy, ugly, slow or crashy scripting!

[DeadSomething]

 

finally found the mod that delays...

 

its LoversSetScale (dont remember the version, should be the latest one) or say the Update3DState func.

 

after I disabled that MOD, victim.kill just worked...

 

Setscale - the old as well as the various new "revised" versions, are all buggy in many different kinds of ways. I'd recommend not using it at all. If you're concerned about the conflicting sizes of races, then:

 

1. Learn simple basics about using TES construction set (basics as in: Knowing how to launch it, knowing how to select races from the menu, and then knowing how to press the keys "1"-"."-"0" on your keyboard.  It would also be useful to know how to enter a filename in a save dialog)

 

2. Knowing how to use wryebash: Put your new plugin with the changed race scales right above the bashed patch - then merge it into the patch.

 

Done! Equal race sizes without any buggy, ugly, slow or crashy scripting!

 

 

as i understood, loverssetscale was not needed anymore since the release of LAPF.

also with the TES-CS, as the noob i am, i would most likely not get all custom races changed without a shitload of dirty edits.

 

[movomo]

The existing token based LoversSetScale is indeed buggy. RemoveMe command in the object script is surprisingly unreliable. If the token is not removed when it should be removed, that's where everything goes south.

After I modified it to use spells instead of tokens, it has become stable.. or I hope so. I still haven't tested for creatures. If anyone wants it I can upload it on one of the existing LoversSetScale threads.

[Supierce]

...If anyone wants it I can upload it on one of the existing LoversSetScale threads.

Oh yes, please!

[WappyOne]

 

 

finally found the mod that delays...

 

its LoversSetScale (dont remember the version, should be the latest one) or say the Update3DState func.

 

after I disabled that MOD, victim.kill just worked...

 

Setscale - the old as well as the various new "revised" versions, are all buggy in many different kinds of ways. I'd recommend not using it at all. If you're concerned about the conflicting sizes of races, then:

 

1. Learn simple basics about using TES construction set (basics as in: Knowing how to launch it, knowing how to select races from the menu, and then knowing how to press the keys "1"-"."-"0" on your keyboard.  It would also be useful to know how to enter a filename in a save dialog)

 

2. Knowing how to use wryebash: Put your new plugin with the changed race scales right above the bashed patch - then merge it into the patch.

 

Done! Equal race sizes without any buggy, ugly, slow or crashy scripting!

 

 

as i understood, loverssetscale was not needed anymore since the release of LAPF.

also with the TES-CS, as the noob i am, i would most likely not get all custom races changed without a shitload of dirty edits.

 

 

I do it a different way.  After I have everything set up and the Bashed patch made, I directly edit Bashed Patch, 0.esp with TES4Edit and change the race's scales/weights to 1.0.

 

Very simple, quick, and won't mess with anything else.

 

[movomo]

Ok, but I haven't considered about race weight. Ger4's revised version has more delicate scripts.. I'll have to check out before I upload anything.

 

Maybe ToggleFirstPerson command in the weight token script was conflicting with the new LAPF and RaperS, btw?

[Supierce]

Ok, but I haven't considered about race weight. Ger4's revised version has more delicate scripts.. I'll have to check out before I upload anything.

 

Maybe ToggleFirstPerson command in the weight token script was conflicting with the new LAPF and RaperS, btw?

EDITED RESPONSE: In most of the ToggleFirstPerson cases, here and in other Lovers mods, it's to enable an Update3D command or animation. It seems to be needed, although I don't know why.

[Chris2999]

Been a while since I played so I dont remember it well, but was this the mod that added graphic effects at the end of the rape? After installing it, nearly all NPC call my PC master after he rapes them only once, how do I change it so they are more resistant to the might of my PC´s cock?

[movomo]

Been a while since I played so I dont remember it well, but was this the mod that added graphic effects at the end of the rape? After installing it, nearly all NPC call my PC master after he rapes them only once, how do I change it so they are more resistant to the might of my PC´s cock?

I believe it is the LoversRapeSlave.

[sexcapades]

set xLoversRapeSlaveQuest.SlaveAverageCount to 100

 

that will make it so that it takes 100 rapes to "break" a slave.  I use 2 bat files - slave.txt and slave1.txt.  When I want to make a sex slave (countesses, various npc's I want for friends)  I set the count to 1 and rape 'em.  But for most of the game (bandits, strangers etc) I leave it at 100. 

[FuttBucker]

Ran into an issue several times with the perpeturape bad end. After the last dance dialog box appears the visuals wig out and then brings me to the loading screen but then it never loads. Anyone know what might be the problem?

[WappyOne]

Ran into an issue several times with the perpeturape bad end. After the last dance dialog box appears the visuals wig out and then brings me to the loading screen but then it never loads. Anyone know what might be the problem?

 

The 'last dance dialog box' only appears when a character has died during a rape/gangrape, not the Perpeturape starting.  Sounds like you have some other mod that is lowering health or otherwise causing the PC to die at the near-death condition. Do you have stats being damaged at rape? Some levelling/stats mods can hurt the player on Endurance drain.

[FuttBucker]

 

Ran into an issue several times with the perpeturape bad end. After the last dance dialog box appears the visuals wig out and then brings me to the loading screen but then it never loads. Anyone know what might be the problem?

 

The 'last dance dialog box' only appears when a character has died during a rape/gangrape, not the Perpeturape starting.  Sounds like you have some other mod that is lowering health or otherwise causing the PC to die at the near-death condition. Do you have stats being damaged at rape? Some levelling/stats mods can hurt the player on Endurance drain.

 

 

Oh so that end is just how it handles dying during sex in general. My mistake then.

 

But yeah, it actually turns out the issue I was running into was caused by one of those mods that extends the death cam time counter.

[aspirine2]

the Rape isn't working for me ??

[rolloverme]

Okay so I just installed this. The settings and the spells (settings, rape, raped by) seems to be working correctly. However I have one problem: even when the mode is set to "Chaos", nobody seems interested in attempting a rape on my character. Does PC have to initiate all actions?

[siskin]

A few conditions must bet met (simultaneously):

1) You must be in combat with the NPC

2) The rape chance must be reasonably high.  I don't remember for sure if it's lovers settings or rapers settings, but you will have a button about attributes, open that and there you can select in what conditions you can rape / be raped, e.g. from what health threshold, with what chance per attempt.

 

Personally I set it to always be raped from behind, and from the the front, you can't be raped until 40% hp, then as your hp goes further down chances increase until it's 100% chance to be raped per attempt at about 20% hp. Additionally, for paralyzed, knocked down, etc it's also 100% chance to be raped.

This combined with playerslaveencounters (set to enslave after getting raped) guarantee an alternative to death.

 

 

If you want to be randomly raped by strangers for no reason without combat or consequences, you want to get Joburg.

[varenne]

If you want to be randomly raped by strangers for no reason without combat or consequences, you want to get Joburg.

 

This version of RaperS does pretty much the same thing (in combination with LoversStalkerM), without the issues caused by using Joburg. Users simply need to read the information provided in the OP to set it up.

[Lamae Bal]

Okay I've been having a really annoying issue for a long time that seems to be due to this mod or some conflict with it: every time I get raped, I lose maybe about 30 of my encumberence. If I rape people, this doesn't happen. Any ideas why this annoying problem is happening? Here's my load order: http://pastebin.com/ffcx5pZW (Note: not ALL of these mods are active and I am not exceeding the mod limit of 255. Remember, ++ means merged. I'm at 245/255).

[movomo]

Okay I've been having a really annoying issue for a long time that seems to be due to this mod or some conflict with it: every time I get raped, I lose maybe about 30 of my encumberence. If I rape people, this doesn't happen. Any ideas why this annoying problem is happening? Here's my load order: http://pastebin.com/ffcx5pZW (Note: not ALL of these mods are active and I am not exceeding the mod limit of 255. Remember, ++ means merged. I'm at 245/255).

Damage Type - What type of damage to apply:

Stats - Victim's Strength, Endurance, and Willpower statistics are damaged. The stronger the rapist the more damage is applied.

Health - Victim takes health damage depending on the relative values of rapist's vs victim's Strength+Endurance+Willpower statistics total.

Stats+Health - Both of the above are applied.

Permanent Stats+Health - A small of the normal Stats+Health damage is applied permanently.

- Health damage amount can also be adjusted in this option.

Looks like the plugin is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. Disable it if you don't want such thing.

[Lamae Bal]

Ah I see I can just change it in the settings menu. Silly me

 

I really don't get the point of it affecting stats though, My last character got enslaved and raped in a cave and now she has no encumberence. I don't see why anyone would want to have no encumberence and be unable to do anything at all for the rest of the game, but ok...

[mem4ob4]

@GermanDeathKittiez

What a player would want in their game (permanent vs non-permanent damages, etc) is exactly what this mod is
all about. Giving a wide variety of options to choose just how serious or fun the play through will be.

 

Mem

[siskin]

Ah I see I can just change it in the settings menu. Silly me

 

I really don't get the point of it affecting stats though, My last character got enslaved and raped in a cave and now she has no encumberence. I don't see why anyone would want to have no encumberence and be unable to do anything at all for the rest of the game, but ok...

 

I know my post is a bit of a wall of text, but seriously, read it. It could have easily been several times longer, but I compressed it as much as I could to give the message without so much text that it's boring. I would say it is an eye opener / enlightening, but makes it sound like i consider myself superior, acting high and mighty, which is an attitude I absolutely can't stand.

 

This mod was designed WITHOUT enslavement in mind. With only this mod, you would get raped, then be left alone for a little bit (iirc)

it's your responsibility to choose settings that work with your mod environment. So obviously, with enslavement you must NOT choose permanent stat damage.

 

An immersive solution that would work is temporary stat damage.

This is the RP: Getting raped countless times, leaves you a battered broken shadow of your former self. You are weakened, both mentally and psychically. After escaping with nothing but your naked body, you manage to run away on shaky feet. After a while, you begin to recover your strength.

 

 

 

Now for the reason why this option even exists... it's obvious in the psychology of humans. I have no training whatsoever, yet I see it all the time.

 

Think a bit about the very core of what makes a game enjoyable. it's 2 factors: challenge, and reward. Successfully defeating challenging content, gives a sense of achievement and power with feels good and makes you play more. An appropriately sized reward increases the feeling of achievement and  gives a sense of progress.

 

 

Without this critical duo of challenge and reward, 99% of gaming would implode. Every game would be boring and no one would play them.

Different people have different skills and different challenge thresholds. Go under it, and the game becomes boring. Go over it, and they say "screw this, it's too hard."

 

Back to sexlab: 

People install sexlab mods for 2 reasons mainly:

 

1) interactive porn (very few)

 

2) to enhance realism/immersion, a.k.a to unshackle both their own behavior and others.  (vast majority)

 

Should it feel right to be raped? No, not really. But... sex animations naturally turn you on. Solution? Add an incentive to dread raping. That adds another layer of depth to the game. Succeeding in NOT getting raped, gives you the above mentioned sense of accomplishment.

 

Here's an example of realistic-ish roleplay:

If you are an outlaw hiding in a cave (the npc), probably haven't touched a woman in a long time, and while on the lookout for someone to rob, you see a hot young woman (the player). Swiftly you subdue her and rob her. What's there to stop you from getting some satisfaction with her body ? Surely not mercy or empathy. You care only for your personal pleasure so you  roughly grab her and have your wicked way with her. Now from the woman's (players) perspective: The bandit just raped you roughly against your will. You are shaken to your very soul from the desecration of your body. You were powerless and that leaves you shaken (loose willpower). His rough treatment left you weaken (loose strength and endurance).

Given some time to recenter yourself, you might overcome the horrible experience and be able to move on... or you might not (temporary/permanent configurable stats damage). Not every rape victim manages to fully recover in real life either.

[WappyOne]

Ah I see I can just change it in the settings menu. Silly me

 

I really don't get the point of it affecting stats though, My last character got enslaved and raped in a cave and now she has no encumberence. I don't see why anyone would want to have no encumberence and be unable to do anything at all for the rest of the game, but ok...

 

Without going into the psychologial points already covered, all default settings for stat damage are temporary.  Your encumbarance limit would return once you fix the temporary Strength damage via Restore spells or altar visit.  Not 'rest of the game".

 

General gameplay reason is might only escape with a few scraps of clothing and need to return for rest of gear after recuparation.

 

[Lamae Bal]

The reason I said, "rest of the game" is because I had zero encumberence and couldn't go anywhere even carrying nothing, so how was I supposed to visit an altar? I understand the point of the option, it just became rather gamebreaking for my character. Maybe this is only likely to happen with PSE, but maybe you could make it so that the encumberence won't reach zero somehow, idk if that's possible, or an option to drain attributes instead. This mod and PSE are amazing work and I will continue to use them both. Thank you for all your hard work.