Player Slave Encounters (Updated Oct 18)

[frostking]

I am of the opinion that the empty/missing bag has a lot to do with area respawns for containers. The couple of times I was able to get my stuff back, was within 3 days, (default respawn time), of my character's capture. Later than that, and I've only found a empty bag, or no bag at all. I believe this also holds true for the belongings stolen by the perverted burglar, as I've never found any loot stolen by him.

[JSmith20142]

One of my heroines was arrested in Bravil, in the house of the NPC killed by the fake vampire hunter. She didn't want to go to jail, so the Justicar spawned in the house, and the sack dropped there. He marched her outside to be used by himself and the crowd, and released her about 3 game hours later. Went back into the house, the sack was there, empty.

 

Your theory makes perfect sense, but does not match my experiences.

[Gaebrial]

I am of the opinion that the empty/missing bag has a lot to do with area respawns for containers. The couple of times I was able to get my stuff back, was within 3 days, (default respawn time), of my character's capture. Later than that, and I've only found a empty bag, or no bag at all. I believe this also holds true for the belongings stolen by the perverted burglar, as I've never found any loot stolen by him.

One of my heroines was arrested in Bravil, in the house of the NPC killed by the fake vampire hunter. She didn't want to go to jail, so the Justicar spawned in the house, and the sack dropped there. He marched her outside to be used by himself and the crowd, and released her about 3 game hours later. Went back into the house, the sack was there, empty.

 

Your theory makes perfect sense, but does not match my experiences.

The respawn time won't have any effect on the sack, because your items aren't actually placed into the sack. The sack is actually a 'wormhole' to the real container, which is stored away in a separate cell that you will never visit and so will never trigger any respawn timer (which doesn't kick in for a cell until you actually visit it).

 

The problem is rather more insidious than simply being a respawn timer issue. My characters have been enslaved as a result of encountering Shifty Bert, which results in servitude for four days, and I've not had any problems with retrieving my character's stuff from the sack. The only time I have had problems with my character's stuff disappearing was before Ichabod applied the standard 'remote container bug' fix a few versions ago.

 

Question: Do either of you use Streamline or anything else that purges things on a regular basis? I've just had a thought, and I wonder if that might be the cause.

[JSmith20142]

Gaebrial, I do use streamline, but how would that effect items in the secret container? I could understand it if they were just thrown on the ground ... although that would be safer, come to think of it. I haven't tested the sack on 0.67, just routinely disabled the inventory transfer; I'll try it out in the original form again when I have a little time.

 

My bigger problem at the moment is why does my game crash when the perverted burglar has finished? I've reinstalled all the odds and ends in the OP at least twice.

 

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00 Oblivion.esm
01 underdark.esm
02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
04 Qarls_Harvest.esm
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]
06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
07 Artifacts.esm
08 Underwear HGEC Fighter.esm
09 Underwear HGEC Normal.esm
0A Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0B BreakUndies.esm
0C TamagoClub.esm
0D HiyokoClub.esm
0E CM Partners.esm
0F x117race.esm
10 Chanpon.esm
11 Lovers with PK.esm
12 LoversCreature.esm
13 TRoN.esp
14 Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp
15 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5]
16 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
17 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
18 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
19 Arena_Ring_V2.esp
1A Carcernus Prison.esp
1B Harvester.esp
1C Qarls_Harvest.esp
1D wd purse of wonders.esp
1E Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3]
1F DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
20 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42]
21 Streamline 3.1.esp
22 Teleport to Everywhere.esp
23 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.11]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
24 Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp
25 DarkSeducerGoldenSaintArmor.esp
26 Ferretmyster Chrysamere.esp
27 Lady Underwear.esp
28 Slof's Boners! v5.esp
29 Underwear HGEC placed.esp
2A Unlimited Wear.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
2B R18PN - Lingeries.esp
2C Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
2D Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
2E Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
2F ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
30 Mage Equipment - OOO.esp
31 Aetheric Cuteblade.esp
32 ADWMeadowHall.esp
33 allinonebasement.esp
34 Artifacts.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
35 Fireflys Extended Cities.esp
36 Fighters Guild Quests.esp
37 FutaPriory.esp
38 GwedenBrothel.esp
39 ImbelManor.esp
3A Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
3B ElvenGardensLoft.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
3C EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
3D Mage'sSkyHouse.esp
3E Mages Guild Quests.esp
3F SoulGoddness.esp
40 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]
41 TinyHouse.esp
42 Rolling_Hills_Manor.esp
43 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
44 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1]
45 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ 100% Harvest Chance.esp
++ 100% Harvest Chance Shivering Isles.esp
46 Colourwheels Sexy Panty Shop HGEC.esp
47 Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp
48 GoldCoinBagger.esp
49 GuildAdvancement.esp
4A TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp
4B TamagoTopic.esp
4C TamagoConfide.esp
4D TamagoSetBody.esp
** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
4E MaternityClothes.esp
++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
4F Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
50 NoBackwardsRunning.esp
51 RealisticHealth.esp
52 Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics- Uncapped.esp
53 BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
54 SetBody.esp
55 zzEstrus.esp
56 MidasSpells.esp
57 OC+Midas Magic Patch.esp
58 EnchantmentRestore.esp
++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
59 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
5A Denock Arrows.esp
5B Unequip Broken Armor.esp [Version 2.8.2]
5C Toaster's Legendary Skills.esp [Version 3.43]
5D Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp [Version 3.43]
5E Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp [Version 3.41]
5F Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp
60 Room Wear.esp
61 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
++ OOO-Level_Slow.esp [Version 1.33]
62 Soya 4 Hair Pack - English.esp
63 CM Partners.esp
64 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
65 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
66 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
67 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
68 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
69 x117race.esp
6A x117Race ENG Race.esp
6B Lop-ears Elf.esp
6C IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp
6D AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
6E Chocolate Elves.esp
6F X.Races.Comp.esp
70 ZUChrysamereResource.esp
71 ZUChrysamereResourceOBSE.esp
72 Sexy Shirt.esp
73 LoversSituations.esp
74 From2ch Lives.esp
75 F2L_FaceChange.esp
76 117NPCs.esp
77 F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
78 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
79 CreeperJones.esp
7A City Life-x117.esp
7B HiyokoGenerator.esp
7C Dremora female.esp
7D NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
7E Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
7F MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5]
80 MCS extension.esp
81 LM_LongerNights.esp
82 MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp
83 RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]
84 Viconia.esp
85 Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp
86 Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp
87 Beautiful_Women_SI.esp
88 Beautiful_Women_Vampires.esp
89 Beautiful_Women_Vampires_50.esp
8A Beautiful_Women_NotSoNice_Bonus.esp
8B TamagoNews.esp
8C TamagoShop.esp
8D HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp
8E PEM_ChangeMod.esp
8F 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp
90 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp
91 LoversBackup2.esp
92 LoversPower.esp
93 LoversRapeSlave.esp
94 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
95 LoversTamagoClub.esp
96 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02a]
97 LoversRaperS.esp
98 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
99 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
9A LoversVoiceGHN_TH.esp
9B LoversSlaveTrader.esp
9C LoversPayBandit.esp
9D LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
9E LoversProstitute.esp [Version 0.25a]
9F LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2]
A0 LoversMagic.esp
A1 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
A2 LoversImmoralGuards.esp
A3 LoversImmoralSisters.esp
A4 LoversLoveJuice.esp
A5 LoversFangedRevenge.esp
A6 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96]
A7 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
A8 LoversCreature.esp
A9 PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.67.esp
AA LSTBravilUnderground.esp
AB LoversMB2.esp
AC Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
AD LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
AE Lovers3dorgasm.esp
AF LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

[Duchess_Gummybuns]

I've never had the disappearing item glitch, but I do know that when enslaved my character just DROPS duskfang instead of putting it in the bag. Seeing as this is a complex problem that could have numerous causes with on effect, I think leaving the inventory disabled but intact is a good alternative to so much stress & headache.

[JSmith20142]

Your Highness, Duskfang/Dawnfang has 5 (at the last count) blocks of code all to itself in the inventory-stripping part of PSE. You can't drop 'it', you have to drop all of its incarnations. I'm sure Ichabod struggled mightily with it for a while, before giving it up as a bad job.

 

Despite all the OBSE team's work, doing complex things with inventory is still quite hit and miss in Oblivion; the game just wasn't set up with it in mind, so everything is just workarounds for its limitations.

 

 

[Gaebrial]

Gaebrial, I do use streamline, but how would that effect items in the secret container? I could understand it if they were just thrown on the ground ... although that would be safer, come to think of it. I haven't tested the sack on 0.67, just routinely disabled the inventory transfer; I'll try it out in the original form again when I have a little time.

It might be that Streamline is running a purge of cells no longer held in memory. With the container being in a remote location that only gets brought into memory in order to move your items into the container, it may be that Streamline is purging the location, and the contents of the container, shortly afterwards.

[Ichabod]

Chenab: It feels like the mod needs something Oblivion related. A slave related Oblivion zone where you can be taken by Daedric Slavers.

 

JSmith: No problem sharing a variant ESP.

I am wary of only doing a strip on the player as it could easily leave someone paralysed from being overloaded.

 

SupaSonic: Thank you. Glad you enjoyed.

 

Duchess: Dusk/Dawnfang is a right pain.

I played with it for ages when I started and it would just keep popping back every morning/night.

I had to settle with just dumping it.

 

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Updates for 0.68

- Part three of A Forgotten Shadow

- Amended AI packages and scripts for Ganredhel and Alessia Caro

- Changed the Food script to fire every six hours with 1 food/drink each time

- Owner follow AI package prod added

- Disabled check in owner scans

- Amended slavery script so zero chance will stop enslavement

 

[Duchess_Gummybuns]

Your Highness, Duskfang/Dawnfang has 5 (at the last count) blocks of code all to itself in the inventory-stripping part of PSE. You can't drop 'it', you have to drop all of its incarnations. I'm sure Ichabod struggled mightily with it for a while, before giving it up as a bad job.

 

Despite all the OBSE team's work, doing complex things with inventory is still quite hit and miss in Oblivion; the game just wasn't set up with it in mind, so everything is just workarounds for its limitations.

 

Dear subject,

I didn't mean to sound like that Duskfang was an issue. It just really scared me to see my precious lying in the middle of town! X) What with all the talk of disappearing items & cell resets & myself being bound to a traveling NPC, what is a poor Gollum to do? I merely spoke in favor of the intact inventory.

 

Excuse me if this is beating a dead horse, but wouldn't enchanting the Slave Collar (or something acute to) with ungodly feather solve the problem of the finicky code & over laden slaves? Though I must be wrong. Coding is math, and if it feels so simple you must be doing it wrong, eh?

[JSmith20142]

As Ichabod is OK with it, I'll make a hacked esp available. I will have to test it a little if I'm giving it to someone else (my characters have to take their chances). It only removes lockpicks from the player; anything else is just unequipped, not taken/dropped. As I said before, you can't use the stuff while enslaved. This does make it possible to cheat, of course, but hey, if the fancy takes you, you can just target Pelham and Co and type 'kill' in the console anyway.

 

Oh, gold stealing is still allowed, of course.

 

Duchess, I think the feather suggestion is a really good way of assuaging worries about over-encumbrance, so I've added a 500 point feather to the collar(s). Not as if anyone is going to wear the thing voluntarily.

 

Edit: appended modified ESP. I'm not really comfortable with posting it here, but I don't have an account on any file sharing sites, so this is the easiest way of doing it for me. If this makes it too prominent, abject apologies, and I'll remove it (or the mods will). This is v 0.67, and requires you to have done the full install before replacing the esp with this one.

 

PlayerSlaveHackedESP.7z

[Someone92]

 

 

Encounter Three: Rough Justice. Requires slave mode on. There is now an option to plead not to go to jail. You will get away with treating the guard to some fun with a low fine. After that it is use by the law abiding citizens, whipping, indentured servitude and if you are a real menace to society then it is a dance on the gibbet. I hope to expand this as time goes on. Fines updated to a more serious level.

What exactly happens during this questline and when does it end? My character is now two in-game days the slave of a citizen but expect from the usual PSE stuff nothing happens, expect that escape is impossible.

[mem4ob4]

@Someone92

 The amount of time is related to what the original bounty would have been. A day to a week? I was thinking though that you should get escape chances. Check the console after about twice the time you set in the pse spell to see if you have any info on escape chance etc.

After your time is up you will get a message prompting you to go back to where the bag of your stuff dropped to recover it.

 

Mem

[Gaebrial]

@Someone92: I believe the enslavement lasts for 1 day per 4000 gold bounty. So if you've been enslaved as a result of Shifty Bert's bounty (10k), then you will remain enslaved for three days (and will be released at midnight after the third day).

[JSmith20142]

I'm afraid I give Shifty Bert to the goblins in Bravil Underground ASAP. Much more satisfying than killing him.

 

[Jackdaw]

I've never had anything actually happen with Shifty Bert and he shows up every time I fire up a new version of PSE.  He threatens me, I tell him off, and that's the end of things.  I gather he's supposed to raise your bounty, but I've yet to see that happen.

[Gaebrial]

I've never had anything actually happen with Shifty Bert and he shows up every time I fire up a new version of PSE.  He threatens me, I tell him off, and that's the end of things.  I gather he's supposed to raise your bounty, but I've yet to see that happen.

There's a base 50% chance of him giving you a 10k bounty the next day, but this is reduced by your fame and increase by your infamy. So if you have a high fame, the guards are unlikely to believe him.

[Jackdaw]

 

There's a base 50% chance of him giving you a 10k bounty the next day, but this is reduced by your fame and increase by your infamy. So if you have a high fame, the guards are unlikely to believe him.

 

 

Good to know, thanks!  It makes sense that the guards wouldn't blindly listen to "Shifty" Bert.

[spartan40]

Hello, 

 

I'm having trouble getting the Shadow over hackdirt to start. I've already rescued Dar-Ma, and yes I know that for the sake of the mod thats fine. I'm just not getting the update to go and talk to her; nor am I getting the conversation topic about Hackdirt or the old ones. Randolph is doing what he's supposed to be doing but his only conversation topic is "rumors". Also I have tried the console commands that should start the quest that I have found in the thread but they aren't working.

 

Any aid would be welcomed. 

Still loving the mod BTW. 

Thanks! 

[Jackdaw]

In the console, type:

 

Addtopic IchDarMa

 

Then try speaking with the friendly Argonian once more.  Due to the complexity of the scripting, I'm guessing the quest targets don't always fire on all cylinders.  I had to do the same thing with "Secriss" when part 3 of Shadow over Hackdirt went a bit wonky.  Randolph stood there smiling, without a thing to say, despite the quest log telling me that he'd had more than enough time to have things translated.

 

Shadow over Hackdirt is easily the best of the bunch, in my opinion.  I can't wait to see the conclusion, Ichabod.

[spartan40]

Thank you Sir! 

 

Just for the record I entered "Addtopic IchSecriss" to the console (without parenthesis) and it worked just fine. Thank you! 

[greenquesadilla]

Is it possible to change the condition for being enslaved from unconscious/during rape to being when the character is near death, like below 5 or 10% health?  That could make it compatible with DR.

[harlecerule]

greencasidilla, you should be able to uncheck unconcious and raped in the "vulnerabilities" in the menu, and I think that'll stop enslavement on being raped or knocked out?  That's the impression I got, anyways.  And I'm pretty sure low health is already a vulnerability, though I'd have to doublecheck the list.

[greenquesadilla]

greencasidilla, you should be able to uncheck unconcious and raped in the "vulnerabilities" in the menu, and I think that'll stop enslavement on being raped or knocked out?  That's the impression I got, anyways.  And I'm pretty sure low health is already a vulnerability, though I'd have to doublecheck the list.

oh, thanks for telling me.  That part was left out of the original posts.

[greenquesadilla]

One more thing, the mod doesn't seem compatible with "Real Time Lockpicking Minigames".  When I press "L" when enslaved and with a lockpick in my inventory, the minigame doesn't start.

[Ichabod]

greencasidilla: Real Lockpicking does not seem to like PSE very much. I remember one person was using but I am not sure if they found a way round this.

 

Spartan/Jackdaw: I thought I had pinned down the quest giving part. I shall have to see what back ups I can add.

 

Someone92: You should definitely have the option to escape while on Indentured Servitude even if you have to wish to.