Cum Overlays - Scripted Edition

[deathmorph]

On 5/16/2023 at 1:57 PM, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

They're off by default.

 

Negative, just uninstalled and installed again. Default is enabled. The description says it is off by default, but the switch is on.

Here is the state right after the installation. Can it be that the switch for lesbians actually shows off when it is on and vice versa?

 

Spoiler

 

PS: and just tested - no matter if the switch is on or off, after sex with women there is sperm on the character (can't come from Indarello's patch, sperm overlay is turned off there)

Edited May 17, 2023 by deathmorph

[nunyabidnez]

Soooo, I think I have a weird issue?  I have three overlays, (mutant on the breast, regular on the belly and regular anal), that I can not get rid of regardless of how I try.  Looksmenu doesn't give me an option to remove them, and taking a shower or bath doesn't remove them either.  My character has been stuck with them for quite some time now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions for making them go away?  Thanks in advance for any assistance or information.

[vaultbait]

7 hours ago, nunyabidnez said:

Soooo, I think I have a weird issue?  I have three overlays, (mutant on the breast, regular on the belly and regular anal), that I can not get rid of regardless of how I try.  Looksmenu doesn't give me an option to remove them, and taking a shower or bath doesn't remove them either.  My character has been stuck with them for quite some time now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions for making them go away?  Thanks in advance for any assistance or information.

 

When you say LooksMenu doesn't give you any option to remove them, you mean they don't show up in the list of applied overlays? Or they're in the list but when you modify one you can't unapply it?

[nunyabidnez]

7 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

When you say LooksMenu doesn't give you any option to remove them, you mean they don't show up in the list of applied overlays? Or they're in the list but when you modify one you can't unapply it?

They show up in Looksmenu as applied, under Body and Overlays, but I can't unapply them.  I can add other ones and remove them, I just can not remove those specific three that are already on the character.

[vaultbait]

35 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

They show up in Looksmenu as applied, under Body and Overlays, but I can't unapply them.  I can add other ones and remove them, I just can not remove those specific three that are already on the character.

 

Odd, I've never seen that happen before. Try saving a character preset and then applying that preset you've saved and see if they become removable after that.

[rubber_duck]

Is there any chance you could limit the overlays only to show up once?

 

Basically, after doing Bound in Public quest, over 10 AAF scenes would play and cause Player to be literally soaked. The problem is that the same overlay(s) would get applied over and over again. For the record, I went to LM Overlays after BiP and found 7 identical overlays (Vaginal_1) applied at the same time.

 

This breaks cum-cleaning mods, such as More Ways of Washing and Wash Out That Cum. I'd start to wash, but only some of the overlays would get cleared.

 

What I'm proposing is that you implement a check before applying the overlays - after each AAF scene one overlay is selected. Check whether that overlay is already applied on the player. If it it, do not apply it; but if it isn't, apply it.

 

To be clear, I don't know if this would do anything to fix the 'permanent overlays' issue.

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

On 6/4/2023 at 9:02 PM, rubber_duck said:

Basically, after doing Bound in Public quest, over 10 AAF scenes would play and cause Player to be literally soaked.

That seems... ill-advised, running separate scenes in rapid succession, especially more than a couple of 'em.

That was actually one reason I was initially considering listening for and using OnAnimStop, rather than OnSceneEnd, but decided against it ?

On 6/4/2023 at 9:02 PM, rubber_duck said:

The problem is that the same overlay(s) would get applied over and over again. For the record, I went to LM Overlays after BiP and found 7 identical overlays (Vaginal_1) applied at the same time.

And that seems statistically improbable, but not impossible...

Unless that's the only overlay applicable for the anim tags present, and even then, "Vaginal_1" is part of the 'Belly' group, which has 6 others available in it ?

On 6/4/2023 at 9:02 PM, rubber_duck said:

This breaks cum-cleaning mods, such as More Ways of Washing and Wash Out That Cum. I'd start to wash, but only some of the overlays would get cleared.

Now that is interesting... Would need a fair bit of digging to work out if that's more down to how those mods work, how LM applies/sorts overlays, or something my mod interacts with/does.

On 6/4/2023 at 9:02 PM, rubber_duck said:

Is there any chance you could limit the overlays only to show up once?

What I'm proposing is that you implement a check before applying the overlays - after each AAF scene one overlay is selected. Check whether that overlay is already applied on the player. If it it, do not apply it; but if it isn't, apply it.

This is kinda the crux of the problem.
One of the main reasons I 'offloaded' the actual overlay application to AAF, is LM's overlay handling was a bit... Obtuse, and by the sounds of it, might be a bit prone to issues with overlays of the same 'name'.

Looking over the AAF_API/MainQuestScript is brain-hurty at the best of times, so I'd have to ask Dago about that. It's possible it's something 'solvable' in AAF's overlay application, to avoid that 'same overlay' issue, or at least adding them with a different priority, which may 'solve' it as well.

TL;DR: In essence, yes, I could probably add a check, I'm just not sure it'll do a whole lot.

If you/others could do some testing for me, it'd be a great help.
Things like the third quote there, of 'if there's X or more overlays of the same name, only Y will be found/removed' (and details like 'requires re-registering showers etc. to remove each one).
I might pin somethin in the AAF Disc (general NSFW probably) about it later, if I remember/think of some other stuff to add, namely more 'step by step' for 'how to give me info I need to maybe fix shit' ?
I'll have a think, at least.

On 6/4/2023 at 9:02 PM, rubber_duck said:

To be clear, I don't know if this would do anything to fix the 'permanent overlays' issue.

That, I think is related to AAF/LooksMenu, and the 'timer' breaking when you load a save with overlays. I'd assume it's just breaking the timer in some way, so that it doesn't get removed as it should, but it seems to only happen when people save while they've got overlays on them, and end up loading that save.

Other than implementing my own check on that, which... I'd rather not add more running scripts to saves with AAF enabled than there already are, I suspect it'd break in a similar way, if I did try that ?

[LdyBelial]

On 6/8/2023 at 12:27 AM, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

If you/others could do some testing for me, it'd be a great help.

I would be happy to help with this as I too have experienced the issue with the same two mods; Bound in Public and Wash out the Cum.

 

Lan

 

 

[cometfox]

Ultimate AAF patch and this don't seem to work together on my end. is there anything i need to add to the cumoverlayxml to get it to work? or do i need to go to the UAP XMLS and make separate tags for it? once i disable it , it works like a charm, just would be nice to have it working with UAP. 

[deathmorph]

I have a guess as to why overlays appear on lesbian animations even though they are not enabled in the settings.
I use the strapon dick viodeo mod from indarello and the viodeo option there. Maybe this is recognized as male and that's why the overlay occurs?
It's just an idea, unfortunately I have no idea how to verify this otherwise.

[jarno5]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:37 AM, cometfox said:

Ultimate AAF patch and this don't seem to work together on my end. is there anything i need to add to the cumoverlayxml to get it to work? or do i need to go to the UAP XMLS and make separate tags for it? once i disable it , it works like a charm, just would be nice to have it working with UAP. 

Got the same issue. Switches from Indarello to UAP and that patch relies on this mod for aplying overlays. AAF works as it should but there are no overlays aplied afterwards. Tried various animations from various authors, nothing. 

Edit: Got it working. Did a complete reinstall of AAF because the whole folder was a mess with leftover files. This also solved all my errors in the admin console. No issues with Get Dirty either so far..

Edited October 21, 2023 by jarno5
Update

[jarno5]

Nope, spoke to soon. Only one animation works for me and that is the standing doggy from SC
The fact that one annimation works and the rest dont.. I dont even know where to start troubleshooting..

@Nebuchadnezzer2 Is there some way we can debug this?

Edit, this is my debug log:

Animation was [UAP - Leito Cowgirl]

[10/22/2023 - 11:15:55PM] CumOverlay Debug: OnAnimationStop: grabbing Actors & Tags
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:55PM] CumOverlay Debug: AnimationStop tags: ["LEITO", "F_M", "NOFURN", "COWGIRL", "FROMBEHIND", "Neutral", "HELD1", "STIM9", "LOVE5", "DOM5", "NULLTOSELF", "PenisToEither"]
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Attempting to apply overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Looping to apply female overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Applying overlay: 'Anal'
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Looping through actors, Actor#1
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Female overlay loop done.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Attempted to apply 1Overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Overlay loops done.

I dont see anything strange here..
According to the messages, it should work.
I tested both with and without AAF Dirtysex.


Second edit:
Tried various animations without UAP patch. Overlays apply as expected leaving me to believe either UAP or this mod that dont play well together in their current states

Edited October 22, 2023 by jarno5

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

On 10/23/2023 at 6:48 AM, jarno5 said:

@Nebuchadnezzer2 Is there some way we can debug this?

You've done most of what I could do already with this:

On 10/23/2023 at 6:48 AM, jarno5 said:

Edit, this is my debug log:

Animation was [UAP - Leito Cowgirl]

[10/22/2023 - 11:15:55PM] CumOverlay Debug: OnAnimationStop: grabbing Actors & Tags
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:55PM] CumOverlay Debug: AnimationStop tags: ["LEITO", "F_M", "NOFURN", "COWGIRL", "FROMBEHIND", "Neutral", "HELD1", "STIM9", "LOVE5", "DOM5", "NULLTOSELF", "PenisToEither"]
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Attempting to apply overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Looping to apply female overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Applying overlay: 'Anal'
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Looping through actors, Actor#1
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Female overlay loop done.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Attempted to apply 1Overlays.
[10/22/2023 - 11:15:56PM] CumOverlay Debug: Overlay loops done.

I dont see anything strange here..
According to the messages, it should work.

As you accurately ascertained, that's indicating that overlays should, barring any issues with LooksMenu, applying overlays properly.

Since it works without UAP, that's something to be asking Ulf about. Could be due to a change he's made in UAP, or simply a whoopsie in some XML somewhere.

[jarno5]

On 10/24/2023 at 9:33 AM, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

You've done most of what I could do already with this:

As you accurately ascertained, that's indicating that overlays should, barring any issues with LooksMenu, applying overlays properly.

Since it works without UAP, that's something to be asking Ulf about. Could be due to a change he's made in UAP, or simply a whoopsie in some XML somewhere.

Yeah im suspecting a conflict somewhere. Since Ulf's Discord link is no longer valid, no support i guess..
But its fine, i already manually patched them to apply the overlays the old way. Not to woried about future updates, they rarely happen anyways.

[Dojo_dude]

Development coming along nicely.... /I'll let myself out. ?

[residenlover1]

the overlays just dissapear after few seconds...what can I do? 

[vaultbait]

11 minutes ago, residenlover1 said:

the overlays just dissapear after few seconds...what can I do? 

 

I think they're supposed to disappear on their own after a while, but if that's based on the advancement of game time then custom timescales could make it much shorter. Do you play with the standard 20:1 timescale, or have you changed it?

[residenlover1]

23 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

I think they're supposed to disappear on their own after a while, but if that's based on the advancement of game time then custom timescales could make it much shorter. Do you play with the standard 20:1 timescale, or have you changed it?

I play with the standard timescale but the cum gets cleaned like 10-20 seconds after being applied...I even tried to change this by modifying the file on AAF...
Maybe the problem is that Im using uniqueplayer bod? its my only explanation...but this also applies to NPCs 

[georgechalkias]

How long does it take before these cum overlays vanish by themselves?

[Shkarlat.Roman]

I "love" loverslab modding. What is AAF? No link, no explanation what it is

[UsernameTaken666]

1 hour ago, Shkarlat.Roman said:

I "love" loverslab modding. What is AAF? No link, no explanation what it is

lol.

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, Shkarlat.Roman said:

I "love" loverslab modding. What is AAF? No link, no explanation what it is

 

Primarily, it's a framework providing a generalized API that allows mods to initiate arbitrary animation scenes matching a set of desired input criteria. It has its own forum category with pinned topics:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/forum/307-advanced-animation-framework/

[Shkarlat.Roman]

8 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

Primarily, it's a framework providing a generalized API that allows mods to initiate arbitrary animation scenes matching a set of desired input criteria. It has its own forum category with pinned topics:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/forum/307-advanced-animation-framework/

 

I'm sorry, I searched mod for cum overlays for Skyrim SE and didn't notice that it's for Fallout 4

[MajorWard]

Most overlays apply then fade as normal, but the glowing / extra glowing ones seem to be permanent? 

[Booster12]

On 7/10/2024 at 7:03 AM, MajorWard said:

Most overlays apply then fade as normal, but the glowing / extra glowing ones seem to be permanent? 

 

On 5/28/2023 at 2:14 PM, nunyabidnez said:

Soooo, I think I have a weird issue?  I have three overlays, (mutant on the breast, regular on the belly and regular anal), that I can not get rid of regardless of how I try.  Looksmenu doesn't give me an option to remove them, and taking a shower or bath doesn't remove them either.  My character has been stuck with them for quite some time now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions for making them go away?  Thanks in advance for any assistance or information.

Have also encountered this, character has some splooge on breast, chest and vagoo that doesn't seem to go away despite both time and washing one's self down.

 

Overlay options don't seem to have the cum splats in question visible [EDIT: as an option to apply] either which makes em difficult to remove, lol.

Edited July 14, 2024 by Booster12
added context