Animal Mansion 4??? (Dev Thread)

[Carnotaurus]

Decided to give the mod a spin a while back after taking the plunge of finally starting to mod my SE version (because of personal reasons), and was pleased with many of the changes to the original. Back then, there was the attempt of making the mod change slightly depending whether one was playing a male or female character -- so it was a bit disappointing and confusing not to have Bailey mount my male Argonian after seeing him and Thaena do it for the first time, yet there was no such problem putting in a show for the Jarl.

 

My personal opinion, I would prefer to have my male character be on the receiving end of all the encounters. After saving the world from an ancient dragon, a crazed Dragonborn and some vampire lord, it is nice to be dominated for once.

 

I have not installed it on my current, more modded SE setup, just in case a newer version requires a whole new game. Though still quite tempted to do so.

[mpkio2]

Hmm, got the horse from the horse quest, but nothing really happens when I return to The Animal Mansion. 

Can someone give me the console commands for all of the quests thus far for this mod?

[ChibakoShiba]

Im so fed up with this, I keep waking up and tries to talk to thaena but she doesnt give me new dialouge

 

[Violence6884]

2 hours ago, ChibakoShiba said:

I'm so fed up with this

...You do know it's very much a WIP and the version shared is a test version? Plus how slow the person working on it, is(Which is fine, they have 0 obligations to anyone here)? Go out there, touch some grass, look at the sky. It'll be fine! This is just a mod for a game, that does a niche thing, which people find amusing but would never act on it. That's literally all it is. Barking at it accomplishes nothing at all.

 

I think that was established in that discussion with that weird person arguing their head canon's authenticity along with historical facts, getting mad AF over literal fantastical nonsense with absolutely 0 consequences.

 

Don't be that person's next version.

 

Let the author know of any problems and perhaps they'll address them in a newer version, that's all. It's not worth being mad about it. I do apologize for the lengthy reply, and for defending the author to an extent I guess, if you want to count it that way. It's just that the way you opened that made it appear like you're losing it over a mod... And that's, I don't know, worth dissecting a bit I suppose. Sorry.

[ChibakoShiba]

3 hours ago, Violence6884 said:

...You do know it's very much a WIP and the version shared is a test version? Plus how slow the person working on it, is(Which is fine, they have 0 obligations to anyone here)? Go out there, touch some grass, look at the sky. It'll be fine! This is just a mod for a game, that does a niche thing, which people find amusing but would never act on it. That's literally all it is. Barking at it accomplishes nothing at all.

 

I think that was established in that discussion with that weird person arguing their head canon's authenticity along with historical facts, getting mad AF over literal fantastical nonsense with absolutely 0 consequences.

 

Don't be that person's next version.

 

Let the author know of any problems and perhaps they'll address them in a newer version, that's all. It's not worth being mad about it. I do apologize for the lengthy reply, and for defending the author to an extent I guess, if you want to count it that way. It's just that the way you opened that made it appear like you're losing it over a mod... And that's, I don't know, worth dissecting a bit I suppose. Sorry.

Lol im just complaining. You are taking this way too serious. Also i got pass it now so its not a problem anymore. I can just skip quest stage.

[ChibakoShiba]

3 hours ago, Violence6884 said:

...You do know it's very much a WIP and the version shared is a test version? Plus how slow the person working on it, is(Which is fine, they have 0 obligations to anyone here)? Go out there, touch some grass, look at the sky. It'll be fine! This is just a mod for a game, that does a niche thing, which people find amusing but would never act on it. That's literally all it is. Barking at it accomplishes nothing at all.

 

I think that was established in that discussion with that weird person arguing their head canon's authenticity along with historical facts, getting mad AF over literal fantastical nonsense with absolutely 0 consequences.

 

Don't be that person's next version.

 

Let the author know of any problems and perhaps they'll address them in a newer version, that's all. It's not worth being mad about it. I do apologize for the lengthy reply, and for defending the author to an extent I guess, if you want to count it that way. It's just that the way you opened that made it appear like you're losing it over a mod... And that's, I don't know, worth dissecting a bit I suppose. Sorry.

Lol im just complaining. You are taking this way too serious. Also i got pass it now so its not a problem anymore. I can just skip quest stage.

[Violence6884]

On 8/15/2022 at 4:52 PM, ChibakoShiba said:

You are taking this way too serious.

...Only because I thought you were! ^_^

[majinsquarehead]

Great job so far. Just installed it. Just wondering. No more quests after u see the first client right?

 

[tasairis]

Quit my job yesterday so I'll have some free time and motivation for a while once again. Going to waste some money on leaving home for a few days to try to get myself back into the swing of being alive.

Dismissed all my LL notifications, haven't tried to catch up on reading that I've missed, will check back next weekend.

[monty359]

2 hours ago, tasairis said:

Quit my job yesterday so I'll have some free time and motivation for a while once again. Going to waste some money on leaving home for a few days to try to get myself back into the swing of being alive.

Dismissed all my LL notifications, haven't tried to catch up on reading that I've missed, will check back next weekend.

 

i hope all works out for you.

 

Would you consider to make AM compatible with Toys&Love? It is a new  altenative to SexLab. If you are not familiar with it, here is a link to a discussion about it. The dev explains in several posts pros and cons of it. Here is the link to the webpage of the whole T&L family.

 

Thnks for your hard work

[skyrim482]

12 hours ago, tasairis said:

Quit my job yesterday so I'll have some free time and motivation for a while once again. Going to waste some money on leaving home for a few days to try to get myself back into the swing of being alive.

Dismissed all my LL notifications, haven't tried to catch up on reading that I've missed, will check back next weekend.

Glad you made a decision for your personal health over a companies. I know the feeling of being forced to work until you don't feel like a person. Hopefully you land something better that allows you to enjoy your free time and support yourself. Best of luck!

[albiondave]

On 8/28/2022 at 5:30 AM, tasairis said:

Quit my job yesterday so I'll have some free time and motivation for a while once again. Going to waste some money on leaving home for a few days to try to get myself back into the swing of being alive.

Dismissed all my LL notifications, haven't tried to catch up on reading that I've missed, will check back next weekend.

Best of luck my friend.  Stay safe, stay healthy.

[Guest]

On 8/28/2022 at 6:30 AM, tasairis said:

Quit my job yesterday so I'll have some free time and motivation for a while once again. Going to waste some money on leaving home for a few days to try to get myself back into the swing of being alive.

Dismissed all my LL notifications, haven't tried to catch up on reading that I've missed, will check back next weekend.

Good luck and also take the time to find a job that actually seems interesting, being a dev and doing programming monkey work is one of the unhealthiest things I ever did. 

[asianboy345]

I've had troubles getting the animals like the dogs from the first quest (not Bailey) to follow me inside the Animal Mansion. If I go outside, they're right there in front of the door but they and any follower I have, can't seems to go inside the mansion with me. Which bugs out the quests where I have to bring them to the basement.

 

Bailey has this issue, too, but it seems he has a failsafe to teleport him inside and outside the mansion if needed. I think this teleport failsafe should be added to all creatures and even customers. As soon as your character reach the quest marker and if the animals are not in the same cell as you, they should be teleported there so you can complete the quest

 

And I can't even get around this with NFF because they're not really followers in that sense so I can't use that mod's teleport function to fix this.

[unwashed biomass]

2 hours ago, asianboy345 said:

I've had troubles getting the animals like the dogs from the first quest (not Bailey) to follow me inside the Animal Mansion. If I go outside, they're right there in front of the door but they and any follower I have, can't seems to go inside the mansion with me. Which bugs out the quests where I have to bring them to the basement.

I had similar problem once. I was suspecting either follower framework i used (don't remember which one i had) or miasLair (sex slaves). I play in VR nowadays without Sex Slaves and with different follower fw and don't have those problems anymore. Again i might point wrong suspects and this is something entirelly different.

[tasairis]

I've been doing some thinking the last couple weeks and I realized something: all this stuff about rewriting the quests (again) is stupid. It came from some desire to be creative and I didn't have an outlet elsewhere so I had figured I'd express it using this mod, and that just doesn't make sense to do. You know what kind of stuff I had prepared? A two-part "ghost" story introduction followed by the player standing in a fucking cage while NPCs talked. What the hell? If I needed an outlet then I could have done that much more easily by making my own completely separate and unrelated story mod that does whatever I wanted instead of taking the Animal Mansion name and turning it on its head.

 

So that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go back to what I had before (in terms of story), which was perfectly useable, and then I'm even going to go a little further and try to make it even less complicated than I had first tried. Because what's the point of being fancy if it gets in the way of me making actual fucking progress? This really should be what I said it should be almost from the get-go: a series of main quests that tell a bit of a story but whose primary purpose is to unlock a lot of replayable content that one can use to spice up the rest of their game. Because replayability is where the real value is, not in the story.

 

And of my "creativity"? I can funnel most of that off into the writing for another potential mod. And I kinda already have, except nobody cares about that because I didn't go on the internet and announce to a bunch of people I was going to make it even though I knew damn well I have a bad track record at doing those sorts of things. Which means I can write and rewrite it over and over to my heart's content if that's what it takes to get stuff out of my head and allow me to get back to work on this.

 

 

I've turned this mod into an unfunny joke and it's taken me months to notice.

[tasairis]

Regarding Toys&Love, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of supporting things besides direct interaction with SexLab. I can probably rearrange the code a bit to make it more possible to replace the sex scene triggering bits, eventually, but I think I'll leave it to someone else to actually do that work.

[hunter34]

I'll chime in regarding the whole creativity thing to developing mods and whatever

 

I've been around since AM's initial release and I have to say that for the most part, all I cared about was having a fun, accessible framework for bestiality content in a somewhat believable scenario within Skyrim that you can use for your characters for fun.  I think that's the most important core focus of the original mods success and some of its later iterations.  It is also the reason that I avoided other iterations, because really, I can make my *own* story provided the framework is robust enough.  It doesn't need ultra deep writing or whatever - most people are here just to get their jollies off on some lewd content, for better, or worse.  I'm not saying that lewd modding can't do that, but the very nature of it makes it difficult to generalize.

 

As such I'll reiterate that what I simply appreciate is: the dynamic bestiality content and sensible progression of building up your stables and entertainment.  Adding in and accounting for as many of the animal/monster options there are, is simply the extent of my desire, personally.  I can't speak for everyone of course, but I do think it's the best bang for buck. 

[skyrim482]

I think most people were interested in a more flushed out mod based on the original with more activities, not so much a full rewrite.  While narrative changes are fine if thats what you want, but the danger is ending up with the burnout or as you stated gone basically off topic. I give you credit for trying to incorporate a bunch of things like both the male and female creatures but I think doing that was probably very difficult to implement and caused a big slowdown that in turn very few people would use the female creatures.  I liked your writing in what you have put out and its entertaining. Just keep it relevant and make it sexy with lots of creature stuff and most people will enjoy it who liked the original. Just no annoyingly long fetch type quests like the AMR wanted you to do ugh.

[Carnotaurus]

My suggestion would be to just make an improved version of the original, with better writing and less of the "over the top" (the wolf quest) or cringe-inducing (chaurus) of the original. Replayability would come with a bigger variety of side quests, being able to choose from a group, and certainly make some far less frequent. (Seriously, how many times can Stump need "help" and Frodnar repeat his ignorance of the situation nor recognize the player from the previous instances? Ditto with the people needing help with their dogs.). So many more radiant quests could be done involving many of the other creatures -- wolf packs needing to be dealt with, skeevers in homes, locating some escaped horse... endless possibilities.

[monty359]

Some idea to think about:

 

There is a questmod: Missives ( and it LL variant). It appears too be popular too. The idea would be to place the sidequest, after thes were enabled by the mainquest, on the missive boards. The quests would be local type and not all at the same time available.

 

Thanks, hope to see the next version soon

[raeder87]

last update was a year ago i think.

abandonware

[ercramer69]

12 minutes ago, raeder87 said:

last update was a year ago i think.

abandonware

You do realize that seven posts above you was a post by the mod author from less than a month ago stating plans for the mod.

 

[raeder87]

As it was the same enthusiasm and plans a year ago and basically every 3-4 month after. Im not salty or anything because i know he was doing this in his freetime and not for job or any patreon money gathering scam project.

Personally i only trust what people do not what people say and right now this mod just entered the usual "give me ideas, im back/i plan to rewrite everything" period which will die off 1 month later and after you guys will give ideas in 2023 march again then summer or fall and the cycle continues... so yeah, im not an optimistic person, but i hope you are right this time.

[killer905]

4 hours ago, raeder87 said:

As it was the same enthusiasm and plans a year ago and basically every 3-4 month after. Im not salty or anything because i know he was doing this in his freetime and not for job or any patreon money gathering scam project.

Personally i only trust what people do not what people say and right now this mod just entered the usual "give me ideas, im back/i plan to rewrite everything" period which will die off 1 month later and after you guys will give ideas in 2023 march again then summer or fall and the cycle continues... so yeah, im not an optimistic person, but i hope you are right this time.

There was a guy who made minor changes in mod, he made Patreon, there was a newer version and he "gone".

 

Personally, I am waiting for the full edition, but the author should not be pressed to release it faster because it "burns" people with the desire to do so.

Edited October 3, 2022 by killer905