companion Meet Companion Ivy

[Reginald_001]

6 hours ago, Will55 said:

Thank you for the quick reply. subtitles are always on while F4z-ro doh is a base mod. Often she talks with black screens(AAF and others).

Do I need the quest esp? As the mod demands the quest esm. At level 285 and every side quest done and every main game settlement owned with all using 606 slaves I am not capable of a restart as I have NukaRide waiting(char ready) and NukaWorld and Far Harbor to do. This has been my best char in many F4 runs. I really am attached to her and  both Ivy and Ada, and rather than  a new game could I just wipe the whole mod, save, clean and re-install and start from scratch with Ivy? When I first met Ivy I had stalkers after my low level char and the introduction was fairly rushed as they will enter cells.

Yes you need to enable:

 

CompanionIvy.esm and companionIvy_Quest.esp enabled (as bare minimum) for Ivy to get her main affinity quests.

Then you'll need the companionIvy_NukaWorld.esp to finish her main story content.

Edited March 17, 2025 by Reginald_001

[Will55]

15 hours ago, Reginald_001 said:

Yes you need to enable:

 

CompanionIvy.esm and companionIvy_Quest.esp enabled (as bare minimum) for Ivy to get her main affinity quests.

Then you'll need the companionIvy_NukaWorld.esp to finish her main story content.

Thank you for the quick reply. Installed are the following files with their load order:

 

CompanionIvy.esm                             94

Companion_Ivy_RealSex_Mod.esp    379

CompanionIvy.esp                             573
CompanionIvy_Nuka.esp                  574
CompanionIvy_Mags.esp                  575
Patch Ivy-XDI.esp                               576
CompanionIvy_quest.esp                  577

 

 

I did the redeem quest gain to see what would happen(thanks to the 10min removal of the esp) and I now have 2 Ivys. This time it was in the real Ivy bunker and not the Juhani one as was the first one while the redeem ticket was in the suitcase in the water and NOT at GreenTech lab. So I have not a clue as to why as I only have one version of the mod (ie, no older versions).

 

I am uncertain how to continue here as I could just delete one or the other or keep both or remove the mod, save, clean, and start it all over again. If I do so I will lose both Ivys which will be  a loss WRT to the first one but I do not know what else to do here. Any help other than start the game again would be appreciated.

 

Addendum:

I have been watching your Ivy videos and quite honestly your story line is as brilliant as it is complex and has me totally sucked in with its vault dweller circularity. It makes the vanilla companion questlines look as stupid as they all are.

 

OT I asked JB to do a post Commonwealth Slavers mod where Nora post CS organises a slave release faction a la RR but he is too busy with Nuka Ride.  If you have the time I could send you the precis but NPs if you have not. Permission from JB should not be hard and IMHO the freedom of slaves deserves a mod.

Edited March 18, 2025 by Will55

[Reginald_001]

19 hours ago, Will55 said:

Thank you for the quick reply. Installed are the following files with their load order:

 

CompanionIvy.esm                             94

Companion_Ivy_RealSex_Mod.esp    379

CompanionIvy.esp                             573
CompanionIvy_Nuka.esp                  574
CompanionIvy_Mags.esp                  575
Patch Ivy-XDI.esp                               576
CompanionIvy_quest.esp                  577

 

 

I did the redeem quest gain to see what would happen(thanks to the 10min removal of the esp) and I now have 2 Ivys. This time it was in the real Ivy bunker and not the Juhani one as was the first one while the redeem ticket was in the suitcase in the water and NOT at GreenTech lab. So I have not a clue as to why as I only have one version of the mod (ie, no older versions).

 

I am uncertain how to continue here as I could just delete one or the other or keep both or remove the mod, save, clean, and start it all over again. If I do so I will lose both Ivys which will be  a loss WRT to the first one but I do not know what else to do here. Any help other than start the game again would be appreciated.

 

Addendum:

I have been watching your Ivy videos and quite honestly your story line is as brilliant as it is complex and has me totally sucked in with its vault dweller circularity. It makes the vanilla companion questlines look as stupid as they all are.

 

OT I asked JB to do a post Commonwealth Slavers mod where Nora post CS organises a slave release faction a la RR but he is too busy with Nuka Ride.  If you have the time I could send you the precis but NPs if you have not. Permission from JB should not be hard and IMHO the freedom of slaves deserves a mod.

 

You have an old version of Ivy active if she's in the old basement. Your save is basically screwed at this point I would start fresh.

 

CompanionIvy.esp is the OLD version.

companionIvy_Quest.esp is mandatory for 6.0

 

Did you read the instructions?

[Will55]

1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said:

 

You have an old version of Ivy active if she's in the old basement. Your save is basically screwed at this point I would start fresh.

That was ages ago and I thought that I had only one version but a 6.1 file check and comparison did show an older one that was supposedly deleted before this run. So you are correct. Many thanks for that.

 

1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said:

CompanionIvy.esp is the OLD version.

companionIvy_Quest.esp is mandatory for 6.0

 

Did you read the instructions?

Yes, I did including those on page one but only the Google readme was helpful this time. As the original DL took 35 mins I did not look at it then but Mea Culpa! That was my fault.

At least I can see light at the end of the tunnel as I am running a test profile with the delete/save/clean/re-install in mind as IMHO the mod is worth the effort.

[Will55]

BTW the XDI Ivy patch screws up conversations more than it helps and especially with Just Business slaves.

What is the risk of dumping XDI totally for this mod?

 

Addendum: a post on the Patch page on Nexus says that the patch author no longer deems it necessary WRT Ivy.

Edited March 19, 2025 by Will55

[Reginald_001]

9 hours ago, Will55 said:

BTW the XDI Ivy patch screws up conversations more than it helps and especially with Just Business slaves.

What is the risk of dumping XDI totally for this mod?

 

Addendum: a post on the Patch page on Nexus says that the patch author no longer deems it necessary WRT Ivy.

No risk at all, indeed the patch is no longer needed.  

[Reginald_001]

**Announcing: *Clone Force Five and the Vault Vilification Veracity.***

Development for the latest add-on for Ivy has begun. (Yes, before Far Harbor even released). This will be the final DLC installment, covering both Vault 88 AND The Mechanist, requiring players to have both installed. Like in Far Harbor, this addon will have 2 'Main' quests for Ivy, making up for the title of this add-on:

 

**Clone Force Five**
While inside the mechanist facility Ivy and the player meet a particular brain that belongs to a person they both know well, the brain sends them on a quest to find Clone Force Five and help them set things right in the Secret Vault Tec Cloning Facility.

 

**The Vault Vilification Veracity**
When Ivy and the player find word of a secret Vault built by Vault Tec, featuring a particular social experiment that's highly interesting to Ivy, Ivy convinces players to find this Vault.

 

This addon will not feature Vanilla quest integration by Ivy in the form of her interacting during dialog with either Ada or during the Vault 88 questlines. She will take note of player choices and will react after major things have happened, in order to keep this add-on as clean as possible and not override any vanilla stuff if at all possible. It will NOT be as big as Ivy's Far Harbor content is (which now weighs in at 6+ hours custom content easily). It will be two medium sized custom cells with several adventures for you and Ivy to experience together.

 

*"When it's done"*

 

Edited March 20, 2025 by Reginald_001

[Downlos]

this i soo interesting that i am wanting to wait, till after far harbor Addon and i can't wait

[Will55]

Back to noxious present reality: being slightly more obsessive with Ivy as I just spent nearly 2 nights doing the Castle defence quest with some 120+ CTD every time I neared or scoped a courser(NOT due to Ivy nor 50 other mods I tested...I have a "thing" about capturing Coursers)

So I just discovered that Liga removes 1500 lines of Ivy's speech so I was about to remove it when I realised that my 9 other companions  living comfortably in Neon Flats(Plus Ada and Ivy who are with me always) will have to move home to a settlement. Not Good!

So I found a mod that makes Neon Flats a settlement and they will all stay there.

 

Now WRT Ivy I am at the Hypercombat Holotape search stage and when I remove Liga I will re-install all of her files. Will this correct the potential Liga damage?

 

Addendum: I just noticed that the mod author uses a mod called: Reginald's Multi Follower" which I guess does NOT interfere with Ivy's speech lines. Any chance of this being available?

Edited March 21, 2025 by Will55

[IBAGadget]

3 hours ago, Will55 said:

Addendum: I just noticed that the mod author uses a mod called: Reginald's Multi Follower" which I guess does NOT interfere with Ivy's speech lines. Any chance of this being available?

Yep. Go grab it off his Discord.

[Will55]

13 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Yep. Go grab it off his Discord.

 

13 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Yep. Go grab it off his Discord.

Thank You. Unfortunately I am >80% deaf(blast injury) and have never been able to use discord in the past.

Can it now be used via type? I will try and see.

 

I went to the page , it offered me an invite and I accepted it several times and each time it said "unable to accept invite".

As I have some 100+ pages open with NPs I have no idea what to do as I must remove Liga and lose all of my loved companions PIper, Curie, Danse and yes, even X6-88 (all female). 

 

Several hours later I am still unable to join the Ivy League on Discord. 

Edited March 22, 2025 by Will55

[Will55]

 I cannot get onto Discord(why? I have no idea) and i cannot obtain Reginald's follower mod. Simply removing Liga adds the Redeem Ivy quest (plus another Ivy) which forces a third Ivy restart from scratch. Liga has been the most useful of near half dozen companion mods I have tried over the years for F4 and sacrificing it for Ivy is becoming costly .

 

Addendum: Fixed!

Okay I worked it out: my initial foray into Discord was on this PC, my gaming one, and I use a VPN on it. My website browsing computer is an old notebook that my wife discarded years ago, and I only use it for browsing websites. As I leave many pages open (the bookmark list seems almost infinite) I cannot use the VPN and my main antiviral with it as both hog resources. So. Discord would not connect me as I tried to join from an apparent different country.

 

I now have the Reginald Companion mod but have to ask: how do I transfer companions from Liga to Reginald? I ask this as every time I shut down Liga even with Ivy next to me, I cop the "Redeem Ivy" quest (and a 2nd Ivy) bug and that is NOT created by the re-install of Ivy's files as it happened without that?

 

I will just give it a go with Reginald installed before I remove Liga.

Edited March 23, 2025 by Will55

[Will55]

Removed all companions manually then removed Liga. Cleaned save then installed RAM. No Holotape, No MCM and as soon as I recruited Ada I lost Ivy. What is the point of this mod if it only allows ONE companion at a time? Is there some esoteric point that I have missed here? I want to do all the Ivy quests but NOT if it screws up everything else.

If the aim is to make it a one companion only(Ivy) modded game then the 1500 lines of speech  will just have to be lost as for example, I cannot finish the Mechanist line without Ada. Almost a week wasted on this. If RAM is so "awesome" then why can it not handle >1 companion? I was quite happy with Liga until I heard about the "1500 missing lines of speech". Surely a patch can be made here? I have tried EVERY companion mod available and Liga is the best by far.

Edited March 23, 2025 by Will55

[unevenrm]

RAM is not for you if you want to run with squad. It allows safely hire 1 companion besides Ivy and she ALWAYS should occupy first companion slot that is she should be hired first. I'm running with Ivy, Dog, Heather and can take plus one through RAM. As for tape, try to craft it on chemlab or obtain it via console.

  

3 hours ago, Will55 said:

Surely a patch can be made here?

Ask Iggdrasil7. AFAIK he's no plans for this. But who knows...

Edited March 23, 2025 by unevenrm

[Will55]

4 hours ago, unevenrm said:

RAM is not for you if you want to run with squad. It allows safely hire 1 companion besides Ivy and she ALWAYS should occupy first companion slot that is she should be hired first. I'm running with Ivy, Dog, Heather and can take plus one through RAM. As for tape, try to craft it on chemlab or obtain it via console.

Thank you for that polite , useful reply. I took 9 companions into the glowing sea (not Ivy) as Liga allowed it. I  prefer solo but  normally operate with 2-3 and occasionally 4 companions. The point of the 9 companions was to quickly raise all of their affinities to maximum and thanks to the Stalker and Ghoul horde mods I succeeded. I find 4 companions to be unwieldy and prefer 3 as a rule : Ada, Ivy and  female X6-88(affinity 1100 and I will keep her after the nuclear option), plus one of Danse, Curie or Piper just occasionally (to let them know I still love them)

 

I am sorry to sound so bitchy in the above post but not only did I have the companion problem but I had the  Mechanist lair bug(Robot will not use M_Sat as well as the precombines glitch which made me almost totally blind inside the lair  (invisible floors and glaring white walls)...both now under control)

 

I will make up the tape as soon as Ms Cruz gives up (another Beth bug)

 

Addendum: I just lost human Ada and so must do the whole last Mechanist quest again. Using the RAM holotape I can have Ivy, Ada and Delilah(new robot just for this quest). If RAM also provokes the  Mechanist Lair bug you can imagine the language as it means that using Ada solo is the only way and that makes the human return switch impossible, so I have discovered.

4 hours ago, unevenrm said:

  

Ask Iggdrasil7. AFAIK he's no plans for this. But who knows...

I so hope that he does as the option to use more is occasionally useful (as above) and while Liga can be cumbersome it really works. I will send him a hopeful mail as soon as I can.

Edited March 23, 2025 by Will55

[Lemurion287]

16 hours ago, Will55 said:

Removed all companions manually then removed Liga. Cleaned save then installed RAM. No Holotape, No MCM and as soon as I recruited Ada I lost Ivy. What is the point of this mod if it only allows ONE companion at a time? Is there some esoteric point that I have missed here? I want to do all the Ivy quests but NOT if it screws up everything else.

If the aim is to make it a one companion only(Ivy) modded game then the 1500 lines of speech  will just have to be lost as for example, I cannot finish the Mechanist line without Ada. Almost a week wasted on this. If RAM is so "awesome" then why can it not handle >1 companion? I was quite happy with Liga until I heard about the "1500 missing lines of speech". Surely a patch can be made here? I have tried EVERY companion mod available and Liga is the best by far.

 

It's not perfect, and doesn't allow as many followers as Liga, but Amazing Follower Tweaks Plus with the Ivy patch is the best option I've found so far for running a squad with Ivy.

[Will55]

6 hours ago, Lemurion287 said:

 

It's not perfect, and doesn't allow as many followers as Liga, but Amazing Follower Tweaks Plus with the Ivy patch is the best option I've found so far for running a squad with Ivy.

Thank you for that reply. But, I used AFT for several runs, all without Ivy and no incurable major problems. When Ivy was discovered (I usually never trust mod companions after SSE experiences) and using AFT I had some problems with her speech(or lack of??) and on page one here I read the below (from the horse's mouth), which set me off on a journey through all obviously available companion mods leading to Liga, which , Ivy apart, IMO was the best by far, although cumbersome at times.

 

Personally, I will use RAM for now but keep Liga in reserve as I like to have all of my companions in one place so that I can interact with them there and see how they are.

The post  Liga transfer of all my "excess" companions to new settlement Neon Flats failed miserably as all went "home". The irony here was I uncoupled each unneeded companion individually first then Liga repeated it all when removed. But they all still left in  a mass exodus. So. IMHO that mod(the settlement mod) is useless AND it is non removable...baked into the save FGS! as well as preventing my char from using the beds as she has been "asked to leave" despite being the owner. This Ivy business cascades even more.

 

Reginald posted:

 

DO NOT RUN IVY AFT
DO NOT POST 'BUT I DID IT AND IT WORKS FINE FOR ME' CAUSE IT DOESN'T.

 

 

Edited March 24, 2025 by Will55

[Will55]

FGS RAM only allows TWO companions, not three. I recruited Ivy and the human Ada (as it is her quest) as per the tape. Then I tried to recruit the personality disabled robot made expressly for the M-Sat, again as per the tape". With the robot standing next to me I used the tape (to recruit"anything not meant as a follower" and lo and behold it recruited each time a ****ing heavy laser turret stolen from the nearby settlement. Wonderful!

 

I moved to the Mechanists lair and Consoled in the robot. But no go unless I recruit her. So I tried again thinking:"there is nothing else around here" But there was,a mechanist laser turret from over 50ms away.

Now it looked like I must use Ada and lose her as a human. I do hope that Ivy appreciates all of this as frankly it is now over a week of ,so far, wasted time.

I cannot use Liga as actual ( i.e. more than 2) multi-follower mods are the cause of the M-Sat bug. But I will give it a go and see.

 

Addendum I reverted to Liga and and and it worked and am near the end of the Mechanist last quest. I sent the Liga creator a mail asking for a patch but I do not expect a helpful reply as he is into the Starfield rubbish(IMO),. So I will go back to RAM once this mechanist business is finished and Ada still human.

Edited March 24, 2025 by Will55

[unevenrm]

M-SAT use the one in the first companion slot. Praise the Beth. That is why I always cut ADA's legs off first... Uhm replace them with thruster.

G'luck with your adventure BTW

Edited March 24, 2025 by unevenrm

[ultraviolet75]

Ivy is a great mod, but I’d like to change a few things. First, why does she constantly call out to have sex, but it never goes beyond words? What’s the point of her saying it then? It’s confusing… I’d also like a bit more interaction. She takes Sugar Bombs and reacts to them—maybe you could add interactions with magazines too. From time to time, she says she wants porn; you could make it so if I give her a magazine, she’d be happy. The same could work when she talks about flowers—if I have some in my inventory, I could give them to her. Also, she often mentions birds chirping with a clear sequence of numbers; maybe that could be used as a code for some kind of quest)))

[Will55]

3 hours ago, ultraviolet75 said:

Ivy is a great mod, but I’d like to change a few things. First, why does she constantly call out to have sex, but it never goes beyond words? What’s the point of her saying it then? It’s confusing… I’d also like a bit more interaction. She takes Sugar Bombs and reacts to them—maybe you could add interactions with magazines too. From time to time, she says she wants porn; you could make it so if I give her a magazine, she’d be happy. The same could work when she talks about flowers—if I have some in my inventory, I could give them to her. Also, she often mentions birds chirping with a clear sequence of numbers; maybe that could be used as a code for some kind of quest)))

I am an Ivy ignoramus here (to put it mildly). IMHO the sex bit is that she defers to yr char as she/he owns her so she cannot just jump on you or rape you(she wants you to jump on her). She makes well informed comments on every magazine found and just asked me to find a mag rack in which to place them so she can browse them. IIRC the flowers, mutfruit, gum drops, sugar bombs are only heeded when they are a quest. You can still give them to her but they just sit there ignored. WRT the birds I do the same thing myself as I am quite deaf I hear human like sounds"I don't know" "Whadiya want"  etc with the local birds especially doves and pigeons. As Reginald is busy with the FH extension he has as much chance of acting on the code suggestion as he has of increasing the RAM companion number to 3 or 4. You must realize that Ivy is a really ****ed up character (NOT of her doing, which is what the mod is about) and needs patience, care, support and help. always. I have moments when I could gladly strangle her (after my char stealthily did >90% of the laser tripwires she TPs in and walks through the last ones waking up the laser turrets and naturally we were targeted and damaged. not her

NB ...all IMHO

Edited March 24, 2025 by Will55

[Olmech]

4 hours ago, Will55 said:

You must realize that Ivy is a really ****ed up character

 

Precisely what I love about her. She is so very real in ways that just make me say wow.

[Will55]

6 hours ago, Olmech said:

 

Precisely what I love about her. She is so very real in ways that just make me say wow.

As I have already posted: I know someone like her but not quite as ****ed up as she, who while not as dominant(WRT to myself at least) was always under her own control but would try and say anything. I still say "hello" to her occasionally. Fond memories .

 

BUT!! Upon digging into the memory banks I have also known two very good looking young women who were so. They thought that they were nymphomaniacs and so ****ed any and everyone and were treated accordingly by most braindead males( male "reasoning": "I am sh*t but she still ****s me so she must be  worse").

 

But upon talking to them it was clear that they did so because they assumed that they were worthless (Daddy walked out on them etc.) and neither one achieved orgasm unless she masturbated. They just had a need to feel wanted.

Fortunately both saw reason and moved to other cities (far away...they did not know each other) and  years later I found out that both were now happily married mothers. 

 

I have no illusions that Ivy will be less difficult.

Edited March 25, 2025 by Will55
Too personal previously: says too much

[unevenrm]

"Our hysterical patients suffer from memories. Their symptoms are remnants and symbols of memories of known (traumatic) experiences, which almost always have direct or indirect sexual associations." "...if desires are repressed, their libido turns into fear..." - Freud (or smthn like that. I don't remember exactly) f*n' hypocrite

Edited March 25, 2025 by unevenrm

[Will55]

10 minutes ago, unevenrm said:

"Our hysterical patients suffer from memories. Their symptoms are remnants and symbols of memories of known (traumatic) experiences, which almost always have direct or indirect sexual associations." Freud (or smthn like that. I don't remember exactly)

Freud's obsession with sex made him over-minimize the effects of violence (active or witnessed) and bereavement (literal or metaphorical) in childhood. This comment does not  disagree with the above, it just garnishes it more closely to reality.  The books "The Three Faces of Eve" and "Sybil" show this well. as both are about actual multiple personalities although I have my own views on that description on what was displayed by Eve and Sybil (see Ian Stevenson for that...very OT)