winny257 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Ooops, ich will nicht schuld sein an einem plötzlichen Herzanfall ??? Hee, kennste den Fliegenfick, Propellerfick, Kerschaufelfick, willste mehr?
donttouchmethere Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, winny257 said: Hee, kennste den Fliegenfick, Propellerfick, Kerschaufelfick, willste mehr? NENE! HAHAHAH! ...oder ich bekomme die Herzattacke ? (oder zumindestens ne irre Verzerrung ?)
karlpaws Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, winny257 said: also not right, Shor is the god of wilderness! https://lagbt.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=TES:The_Nords'_totemic_religion That seems to say Shor's dead and not what he was god OF just that he is in the afterlife, but I do keep confusing Kyne's wind, nature and wilderness ideas in my head. The really confusing part is the ancient Nordic idea is similar to but not exactly the current idea, which is also similar but not quite the imperial 8/9 Divines concept. You could probably get by with saying any mix of those and worship as you will, as long as the Thalmor aren't involved.
winny257 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, karlpaws said: That seems to say Shor's dead and not what he was god OF just that he is in the afterlife, but I do keep confusing Kyne's wind, nature and wilderness ideas in my head. The really confusing part is the ancient Nordic idea is similar to but not exactly the current idea, which is also similar but not quite the imperial 8/9 Divines concept. You could probably get by with saying any mix of those and worship as you will, as long as the Thalmor aren't involved. sorry damn, I have that messed up! I did not mean Shor, I meant him with the deer antler, Hircine. Spoiler
Holzfrau Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, karlpaws said: That seems to say Shor's dead and not what he was god OF just that he is in the afterlife, but I do keep confusing Kyne's wind, nature and wilderness ideas in my head. The really confusing part is the ancient Nordic idea is similar to but not exactly the current idea, which is also similar but not quite the imperial 8/9 Divines concept. You could probably get by with saying any mix of those and worship as you will, as long as the Thalmor aren't involved. Shor is the Nordic name for Lorkhan, but not much is known about him because he died (?) during the creation of Mundus. The fun thing about TES lore is that maybe all of the different ideas on Shor/Lorkhan are correct; but then maybe none are. I would say Kyne (Kynareth) is the best fit for a nymph, but it seems spriggans are most closely associated with her. However, in Daggerfall, Nymph is one of the faction skills for the House of Dibella, so there certainly is precedent for associating them there. I don't think Hircine is a good choice, because he's more into predators and survival of the fittest kind of stuff. Another option, although one not as likely to be found in Skyrim any more, is the nature god of the wood elves (and also the ancient snow elves!), Y'ffre/Jephre.
karlpaws Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 7 hours ago, winny257 said: sorry damn, I have that messed up! I did not mean Shor, I meant him with the deer antler, Hircine. I always think of Hircine more as Hunting, not wilderness, but as a daedra I'd also put him a separate category from the Aedra. Doesn't exactly rule out the daedra but they tend not to be the patron gods of places or things, but more ideas/concepts/actions.... or sometimes People where the Orcs and Dunmer are concerned. 4 hours ago, Holzfrau said: Shor is the Nordic name for Lorkhan, but not much is known about him because he died (?) during the creation of Mundus. The fun thing about TES lore is that maybe all of the different ideas on Shor/Lorkhan are correct; but then maybe none are. I would say Kyne (Kynareth) is the best fit for a nymph, but it seems spriggans are most closely associated with her. However, in Daggerfall, Nymph is one of the faction skills for the House of Dibella, so there certainly is precedent for associating them there. I don't think Hircine is a good choice, because he's more into predators and survival of the fittest kind of stuff. Another option, although one not as likely to be found in Skyrim any more, is the nature god of the wood elves (and also the ancient snow elves!), Y'ffre/Jephre. Yffre is featured in the Wintersun mod I started using recently and someone else made a Sexlab tie-in mod. IIRC having sex with animals and in the wilderness gives favor with Jephre under that mod (the tie in at least, the regular, Nexus version is more bland wilderny stuff). I don't think there is a statue for Jephre in the Wintersun mod. If there was, that would be something for the original poster to use. I hadn't thought about that, probably because I don't remember the statues added in that mod much.
Holzfrau Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, karlpaws said: I don't think there is a statue for Jephre in the Wintersun mod. If there was, that would be something for the original poster to use. I hadn't thought about that, probably because I don't remember the statues added in that mod much. There is, but it's a plain looking dude and not a goddess like mqd1 wants to use. There is a picture on the Nexus page, but it's kinda hard to make out. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22506?tab=images
karlpaws Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Holzfrau said: There is, but it's a plain looking dude and not a goddess like mqd1 wants to use. There is a picture on the Nexus page, but it's kinda hard to make out. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22506?tab=images I think the man in that pic is a PC, not a statue. Pretty sure that's where I'm thinking it is and why I thought there wasn't a statue. Its near Bloated Man's Grotto.
Holzfrau Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, karlpaws said: I think the man in that pic is a PC, not a statue. Pretty sure that's where I'm thinking it is and why I thought there wasn't a statue. Its near Bloated Man's Grotto. Ha, I think you're right. No wonder he looks so boring! I only tried Wintersun briefly, so I couldn't remember if the shrine to Jephre had a cool statue like some of the other ones do.
winny257 Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, karlpaws said: I always think of Hircine more as Hunting, not wilderness, but as a daedra I'd also put him a separate category from the Aedra. Doesn't exactly rule out the daedra but they tend not to be the patron gods of places or things, but more ideas/concepts/actions.... or sometimes People where the Orcs and Dunmer are concerned. Yffre is featured in the Wintersun mod I started using recently and someone else made a Sexlab tie-in mod. IIRC having sex with animals and in the wilderness gives favor with Jephre under that mod (the tie in at least, the regular, Nexus version is more bland wilderny stuff). I don't think there is a statue for Jephre in the Wintersun mod. If there was, that would be something for the original poster to use. I hadn't thought about that, probably because I don't remember the statues added in that mod much. Personally, I prefer the Daedra, as the 9 gods. My favorite Daedra is Sheogorath. why not just extract Y'ffre, or create, it's just a big tree. my opinion is, a completely human statue does not fit to the nymphs. Spoiler
winny257 Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 Spriggan Statue Resource https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60696/? Spoiler
goaway Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 A nymph would never normally worship a Daedra for any reason. The reason is the same as why they can't become vampires. She is a magical creature and her magic comes from Aetherius, the plane the Aedra are from. It does not mix well with magic from oblivion. The only exception would be a fallen Magna-ge like Meridia. I could maybe see Azura if she has some Dunmer ancestory, too. Otherwise, a Nymph would have to be severely mentally unstable to worship magic that is the polar opposite of her own. As for Aedra, with a few exceptions, any of them would work, but I think a Nymph might have a different understanding of "worship" than a human does. The first exception is Akatosh, since an immortal Nymph has little consideration for the passage of time. The second is that a nymph would be pretty unlikely to worship any incarnation of Lorkhan, too. Whether that's Shor, Shezar, Sep, or Talos. He's the god of mortals. If you don't think Magnus is sexy enough, Dibella would make the most sense, since she may have blessed the race when they were created, and adherents of her temple commonly learn to speak the Nymph language. A Nymph who maintains some friendly relations with mortals may even get invited to participate in certain Dibellan rites or rituals, too. The temple of Mara also teaches the Nymph language to it's acolytes, but I think a Nymph would find Mara to be "less fun" in general.
Oh shit WTF Posted September 28, 2019 Author Posted September 28, 2019 5 hours ago, goaway said: A nymph would never normally worship a Daedra for any reason. The reason is the same as why they can't become vampires. She is a magical creature and her magic comes from Aetherius, the plane the Aedra are from. It does not mix well with magic from oblivion. The only exception would be a fallen Magna-ge like Meridia. I could maybe see Azura if she has some Dunmer ancestory, too. Otherwise, a Nymph would have to be severely mentally unstable to worship magic that is the polar opposite of her own. As for Aedra, with a few exceptions, any of them would work, but I think a Nymph might have a different understanding of "worship" than a human does. The first exception is Akatosh, since an immortal Nymph has little consideration for the passage of time. The second is that a nymph would be pretty unlikely to worship any incarnation of Lorkhan, too. Whether that's Shor, Shezar, Sep, or Talos. He's the god of mortals. If you don't think Magnus is sexy enough, Dibella would make the most sense, since she may have blessed the race when they were created, and adherents of her temple commonly learn to speak the Nymph language. A Nymph who maintains some friendly relations with mortals may even get invited to participate in certain Dibellan rites or rituals, too. The temple of Mara also teaches the Nymph language to it's acolytes, but I think a Nymph would find Mara to be "less fun" in general. Shit I didn't know you are the creator of the Nymph Girls of Skyrim! I absolutely love your mod btw. Thank you for the mod!
Oh shit WTF Posted October 1, 2019 Author Posted October 1, 2019 Do nymphs have shadows? They're technically a spirit of the place they belong right?
mercplatypus Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Yes, nymphs would cast shadows. In most mythologies and fantasy settings they aren't really spirits like ghosts are and are quite solid.
Kendo 2 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Shadows...probably. I remember a story from Greek mythology about a nymph looking at herself in a pond reflection. Stands to 'reason' that if they cast reflections then light interacts with them like anything else.
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