guide Fallout IV for Beginners - V3.2.9 (Outdated)

[snuffyluffy]

Anyone have thoughts/concerns using Videos of the Wasteland with Starlight Add-On instead of / or with Rebuild Starlight Drive-In? I really want to show those movies in my settlements and on the big screen 🤤  

[Bigglsby]

5 hours ago, snuffyluffy said:

Anyone have thoughts/concerns using Videos of the Wasteland with Starlight Add-On instead of / or with Rebuild Starlight Drive-In? I really want to show those movies in my settlements and on the big screen 🤤  

 

I actually did try this just recently.  Technically it DOES work.  Fine print:  Since the most recent (years ago) update to VOWL Starlight stuff is mostly non-functional.  TV/Projector stuff works well enough, but the Starlight vids of old are mostly non-compatible for the big screen.  Starlight and small screen holotapes are both different/not interchangeable.  I did get some of the OG base SPECIAL vids to play - there was a little bit of display funkyness though.  I don't think ANY of the more lewd vids work for the big screen (none that I found anyway).

 

So try if you like, but it didn't really work as expected in my attempt.  Stick to the small screens, and you'll be less disappointed.

[misterpipes]

On 5/2/2024 at 12:47 AM, Mindgames265 said:

also something to maybe take a peak at You And What Army 2

I've been using You And What Army 2 in my current playthrough. The Minuteman outposts I've visited so far (less than half) haven't been problematic and seem to fit in fine, although a couple of them might be messing with random encounter spawns (I haven't seen a random encounter on the Bunker Hill bridge since the nearby Minuteman outpost appearred, for example). Also the appearance of outposts is tied to Minuteman quests, not to claiming settlements, so dispite having only 5 settlements (Sanctuary, Abernathy, Ten Pines, Red Rocket and the Castle), Minutemen are spread all over the map. So a bit immersion breaking. Doesn't mean I won't be using it next run, though.
(map of outpost locations)

Edited May 3, 2024 by misterpipes

[misterpipes]

16 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

Starlight stuff is mostly non-functional.

I wonder if thats some mod conflict. I tried VOWL  a couple oif years back and Starlight was mostly fine. Even found a decent selection of videos here on LL that worked fine on the large screen. There where more for the small screen though.
More concerning (for me at least) was that for reasons, every video pack used a ESP slot and couldn't be ESLified. And I'm always short of ESP slots.

[Bigglsby]

1 hour ago, misterpipes said:

I wonder if thats some mod conflict. I tried VOWL  a couple oif years back and Starlight was mostly fine. Even found a decent selection of videos here on LL that worked fine on the large screen. There where more for the small screen though.
More concerning (for me at least) was that for reasons, every video pack used a ESP slot and couldn't be ESLified. And I'm always short of ESP slots.

 

You may have used VOWL with the previous version, before it got overhauled and required all the tapes/reels to be remade.  I'm sure the selection was much better then...I know when I was playing around and looking for stuff, a lot of what I found wasn't updated for the newer version.  It could also be that you were just better at finding them than I was, or happier with what you did find.  :)

 

Again, it WAS functional, but more limited than what I was expecting.  So the Starlight aspect of VOWL was more of a disappointment for me.  But it's all a matter of if it does what each user wants it to do.  Ask your loadorder if Starlight is right for you.  :)

[Aylis]

So back at it again.

 

Had three separate setups for the weapons. None worked as i hoped they would. As i always had 'exploded weapons' or the game simply crashed. Now i toned down the replacers and the next run hopefully works... (at least no crashes before the menu appears)

 

I'll also take a look at Bethesdas new update and try to get around its problems.

 

 

[snuffyluffy]

On 5/6/2024 at 10:02 AM, Aylis said:

So back at it again.

 

Had three separate setups for the weapons. None worked as i hoped they would. As i always had 'exploded weapons' or the game simply crashed. Now i toned down the replacers and the next run hopefully works... (at least no crashes before the menu appears)

 

I'll also take a look at Bethesdas new update and try to get around its problems.

 

 

I'm thinking about disabling the weapon replacer mods. Think I can keep a current save or will I need to start a new? Also, I seem to be missing some lights from the workshop. Primarily, the ones included in Better High Tech Lights. Bug, or am I looking for them in the wrong place?

[Varithina]

28 minutes ago, snuffyluffy said:

I'm thinking about disabling the weapon replacer mods. Think I can keep a current save or will I need to start a new? Also, I seem to be missing some lights from the workshop. Primarily, the ones included in Better High Tech Lights. Bug, or am I looking for them in the wrong place?

 

Personally I would go new game, far too many scripts and level list changes for my liking, and far too many things could go wrong with simply removing them and hoping, even using one of the save game cleaners.

[snuffyluffy]

Thank you, @Varithina.Any idea what might be causing items not appearing in the workshop menu? Just some of the basic lamps (floor & ceiling, minus V's which are...meh) and lights and things from the base game aren't there. I enjoy building so things like that are sorely missed. I've really been tempted to throw Homemaker or USO in there but I have a feeling those mods were some of the reason my old mod list tanked and I came here. 

[Aylis]

Newest version of 'Starlight drive-in'.

blueprints.7z

 

Its using slot 3 and a few CCC:

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Not all rooms are fully decorated but it should give you a good overview what will be in the final version.

 

Screenshots:

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Edited May 9, 2024 by Aylis

[Aylis]

Two weapon sets later:

looks like the weapons are fine 'til the NPC, that uses it, dies. Then they 'explode'...

 

LO doesn't seem to be the issue as atm its the doublebarrelled shotgun again. And i can't put a vanilla weapon lower in the LO.

 

Next attempt... 

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Nightmare avoided... Several weapons decided to cause zero damage. One of the patches for TR screwed everything up.

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Next two attempts failed. When i managed to fix one vanilla weapon another one breaks.

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Going the opposite route now. New meshes and replacing every weapon with issues.

 

Pipe Weapons got replaced without breaking anything..

 

guns that 'explode':

Doublebarrelled Shotgun Have to find a working replacer.

Hunting/Sniper Rifle Have to find a working replacer.

Glock 19 (10mm replacer) Working on LO

HK USP (Gamma Gun replacer) Working on LO

 

AK74M Working now

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Got almost all weapons replaced.

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Working on the LO now...

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Found a way to improve the LOD and the FPS at the same time. Drops below 60 FPS are rare.

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Mods to add:

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VTAC REDUX - Vault-Tec Advanced Combat-Armor and Suit

VTAC REDUX - Vault-Tec Advanced Combat-Armor and Suit - SPECIAL Addon

VTAC REDUX - BT3 Conversion

VTAC REDUX - Fusion Girl

IKAROS Fusion Girl ref Body update

IKAROS - VTAC REDUX

FO4FI HD Series (HD Vanilla Armor)

FO4FI HD Series (HD Vanilla Clothes)

FO4FI HD Series (HD DLC Clothes and Armor)

 

'Rebuild' got updated into a single AIO. It is now ready for the older and the newest version of FO4.

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The mod BT SPR - Sniper Rifle doesn't work for us as a replacer. As the hunting rifle is quite common you get many of them, but you can sell them for a lot of caps which is imbalancing in the begining. 

 

Testing the 'Remington Model 700' now.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Aylis

[snuffyluffy]

Probably a stupid question - Is ZeX-ZBG  supposed to be randomizing NPC bodies in game? If so, I'm not seeing it. I was under the assumption that bodygen data was included and as long as I am building morphs, it should happen. But I'm still a novice at all this. 

[Aylis]

@snuffyluffy

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While 'ZEX-ZBG' works fine with living NPC, it gets confused when it tries to apply a body to an already existing corpse. The uploaded file fixes the problem 'til we get a better solution for the issue.

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Still checking the final LO.

 

Collecting Links: NOT Final

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Remove:

Subgroup: Start Me up

FO4 HD Overhaul Pine Forest Redone LOD Patch

Vanilla Reanimation Project - Combat Rifle (Shotgun)

Vanilla Reanimation Project - Combat Rifle (Shotgun) TR

Vanilla Reanimation Project - Double Barrel Shotgun

SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor

SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes

SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes

Long coat with skirt

Long Coat With Skirt Replacer

Long Johns Replacer for the girls

Paint Me 

AKM Complex

Cazador Missile Launcher

FN FAL - SA58 (Plus Kukri)

FN FAL - SA58 (Plus Kukri) - UNMEMED

FN FAL - SA58 Sound Overhaul

Springfield Armory M1A

MW2019 sounds for M1A

The Humble Hunting Rifle

Heckler und Koch - G36 Complex

G36 New firing sounds

Heckler und Koch - MP5 Complex

Mossberg 500 Pump-Action Shotgun

Post-apocalyptic homemade weapons. Replacer

Projectile Rocket Launcher

Thompson SMG Replacer

Modern Weapon Replacer - AKM - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Cazador Missile Launcher

Modern Weapon Replacer - Mossberg 500

Modern Weapon Replacer - Projectile Rocket Launcher 

Modern Weapon Replacer - Springfield Armory M1A

M203 

M203 - AMD Patch 

M60 Light Machinegun 

Scripted Leveled List Injection for M60 

M60 New Firing sounds

MW AUG (Video)

McMillan CS5

Peacekeeper (Video)

Peacekeeper - Western Revolver Replacer

Accuracy International AX50 Anti-Materiel Rifle

AX50 - See Through Update

AX50 - See Through Hotfix

The Ultimate M4 Pack

SIG MCX Spear NGSW - Assault Rifle

SIG MCX Spear NGSW - Quick Loading

SIG MCX Spear NGSW - Real Time Cover Penetration Patch

SIG MCX Spear NGSW - Side Aim Patch

BH SIG MCX Spear NGSW - Clamped

SIG MCX Spear NGSW - AMD Patch

The Ultimate M4 Pack - Textures

The Ultimate M4 Pack - ADS Optimization

The Ultimate M4 Pack - Sound Optimization

The Ultimate M4 Pack - Real Time Cover Penetration Patch

The Ultimate M4 Pack - Replacer

 

Adding:

Subgroup: Trees

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A Fallout 4 Grass Overhaul

Far Object LOD Improvement Project

Finer vanilla vines

Pipboy Tabs

Fallout 3 Styled City Liner Bus

Lucy's Vault-Tec Backpack

VTAC REDUX - Vault-Tec Advanced Combat-Armor and Suit

VTAC REDUX - Vault-Tec Advanced Combat-Armor and Suit - SPECIAL Addon

VTAC REDUX - BT3 Conversion

VTAC REDUX - Fusion Girl

IKAROS Fusion Girl ref Body update

FO4FI HD Series (HD Vanilla Armor)

FO4FI HD Series (HD Vanilla Clothes)

FO4FI HD Series (HD DLC Clothes and Armor)

KARMA

There are several icon packs available. Use one you like.

IKAROS Fusion Girl ref Body update

IKAROS - VTAC REDUX

Start Me Up Redux - An Update for Alternate Start and Dialogue Overhaul

Alternate Dialogue Project - Start Me Up Redux - WASTELANDER START

Escape from Boston - Springfield Armory M14

EFB - Springfield Armory M14 - Tactical Reload Support

Hunting Shotgun

Hunting Shotgun - Tactical Bullet Counted Reload Patch

China Lake and Holorifle

Fostech Origin 12

MK18 CQBR

MK18 Armory Project

MK18 Armory Project 2

MK18 Armory Project 3

QBZ-191 QBZ-192 QBU-191

QBZ-191 - Tactical Reload patch

SIG MCX - Assault Rifle

SIG MCX Armory Project

SIG MCX Armory Project 2

SIG MCX Armory Project 3

AK74M - Assault Rifle

Missile Launcher Expansion

Nina's Proper Pipe Guns Replacer

Defense Gun

Defense Gun - Unofficial Update

DefenseGun - Pipe Gun Replacer

Remington 700

AnotherOne Remington 700 Addon

AnotherOne Remington 700 Addon - Tactical Reload variant

Remington 700 - Unofficial Integration Patch - Hunting Rifle Replacer

Super Mutants Use Remington 700

AnotherOne PP-91 Kedr

HK USP - Pistol

HK USP - Tactical Reload Patch

AnotherOne TEC-9

Modern Weapon Replacer - AK74M - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - AnotherOne PP-91 Kedr - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - AnotherOne TEC-9 - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Escape From Boston - Springfield Armory M14 - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Fostech Origin 12 - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - HK USP - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Hunting Shotgun - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Mk18 CQBR - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - QBZ-191 QBU-191 - FOMOD Installer

Modern Weapon Replacer - Sig MCX - FOMOD Installer

 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Aylis

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, snuffyluffy said:

Probably a stupid question - Is ZeX-ZBG  supposed to be randomizing NPC bodies in game? If so, I'm not seeing it. I was under the assumption that bodygen data was included and as long as I am building morphs, it should happen. But I'm still a novice at all this. 

 

It should, but there are empty plugins associated with the male (BT) and female (FG) BodyGen configs which have to be enabled, so you might want to double-check those.

 

Also, hopefully it goes without saying, but LooksMenu (which supplies the BodyGen framework) does not work with the recent game updates yet. If you upgraded to the latest version of Fallout 4, youll need to downgrade for now to get LooksMenu/BodyGen working.

[misterpipes]

Talking of bodygen has just reminded me of this:
Invisible Dead Body Fixer (Also requires Robco Patcher)
I've been using it in my most recent playthrough, and while it doesn't seem to have fixed all the invisible dead bodies (thats probably my fault for installing it mid playthrough), its certainly reduced the number of them.

[vaultbait]

25 minutes ago, misterpipes said:

Talking of bodygen has just reminded me of this:
Invisible Dead Body Fixer (Also requires Robco Patcher)
I've been using it in my most recent playthrough, and while it doesn't seem to have fixed all the invisible dead bodies (thats probably my fault for installing it mid playthrough), its certainly reduced the number of them.

 

The author was inconsistent about updating the version on Nexus, you'll currently find the latest version here on LL instead:

 

 

Edit: Oh, scratch that, they did remember to update the copy on Nexus last time. For some strange reason the description page still says the current version is 1.2 but the file page has it as 1.35. So same version on both sites at the moment.

Edited May 22, 2024 by vaultbait

[YuFeng]

Will the guide update be for a downgraded Fallout 4 instead of the NG version since so many mods still need to be updated?

[Aylis]

On 5/23/2024 at 9:19 PM, YuFeng said:

Will the guide update be for a downgraded Fallout 4 instead of the NG version since so many mods still need to be updated?

Atm the guide will stick to the old version. The update causes quite a few issues and some mods arn't ready for it.

 

I'll add links for a rollback and update protection.

[Aylis]

F... F... F... 

 

Steam decided to upgrade my FO4 without my consent (i instructed it not to)! So in case someone runs into the same issue i got this:

 

Fallout 4 Downgrader

 

And to prevent Steam to do the same to you:

 

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update

 

 

 

[YuFeng]

I did try this thing here. It also prevents updating and allows to use the new files the update brought.

 

Simple Fallout 4 Downgrader

 

So far it works quite nicely.

[Aylis]

My old HDD died last week, thankfully i could replace it with a bigger NVME for my games and now have all on one drive.

 

The downgrade of Fallout 4 to version 1.10.1630 worked flawlessly.

[snuffyluffy]

On 5/22/2024 at 10:06 AM, vaultbait said:

 

It should, but there are empty plugins associated with the male (BT) and female (FG) BodyGen configs which have to be enabled, so you might want to double-check those.

 

Also, hopefully it goes without saying, but LooksMenu (which supplies the BodyGen framework) does not work with the recent game updates yet. If you upgraded to the latest version of Fallout 4, youll need to downgrade for now to get LooksMenu/BodyGen working.

I'm not seeing any empty plug-ins to enable for this. Do the configs generate automatically after running bodyslide? If so, I'm not getting them but BS is definitely working. 

 

I'm still running the pre-next-gen version so I'm good. 

[vaultbait]

4 hours ago, snuffyluffy said:

I'm not seeing any empty plug-ins to enable for this. Do the configs generate automatically after running bodyslide? If so, I'm not getting them but BS is definitely working. 

 

I'm still running the pre-next-gen version so I'm good. 

 

The toggle plugins ZeX ZBG installs for enabling/disabling BodyGen configs are named ZeX-BodyGen-F.esp and ZeX-BodyGen-M.esp.

[snuffyluffy]

11 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

The toggle plugins ZeX ZBG installs for enabling/disabling BodyGen configs are named ZeX-BodyGen-F.esp and ZeX-BodyGen-M.esp.

Got it. Yeah, checked. I ESLified them. Think that caused issue?

[vaultbait]

8 hours ago, snuffyluffy said:

Got it. Yeah, checked. I ESLified them. Think that caused issue?

 

Nope, should be perfectly safe since they have no new forms (they're completely empty plugins). The way BodyGen works, it scans the directories under Data\F4SE\Plugins\F4EE\BodyGen and then checks to see whether there's a plugin whose complete filename matches the directory name exactly. If that plugin exists and is enabled, then BodyGen tries to load whatever configuration it finds in that directory. So basically, those empty plugins are just convenient on/off switches for the corresponding configuration files.