Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 I keep getting random game crashes when opening my inventory or looting bodies. It is completely random it seems, as I can sometimes play for a little while between crashes. Some crashes happen while just walking around. Also it keeps freezing frequently as well, the type of freezing that i cant close it and have to restart my computer I have tried reinstalling the mods multiple times, and can't seem to find the cause of any of this Load Order: [spoiler] Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Campfire.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm CreatureFramework.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp RLO - Interiors.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Captured Dreams.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp DD_Helpers.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Purewaters.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Run For Your Lives.esp SMIM-Merged-NoRiftenRopes.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HornyCreatures.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp SofiaFollower.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp KNM_Mour.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp EstrusChaurus.esp zzEstrus.esp SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp FNIS.esp GagSFX.esp GagSFXDawnguard.esp GagSFXDragonborn.esp GagSFXHearthfires.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Weapons.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Shop.esp Remodeled Armor.esp SD Patches.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SexLabTools.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp UIExtensions.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp SkyUI.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ImmerSlave.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp [/spoiler] Papyrus: Papyrus.1.log Papyrus.0.log
Psalam Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Quote 4 hours ago, Thomux said: I keep getting random game crashes when opening my inventory or looting bodies. It is completely random it seems, as I can sometimes play for a little while between crashes. Some crashes happen while just walking around. Also it keeps freezing frequently as well, the type of freezing that i cant close it and have to restart my computer I have tried reinstalling the mods multiple times, and can't seem to find the cause of any of this Load Order: [spoiler] Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Campfire.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm CreatureFramework.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp RLO - Interiors.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Captured Dreams.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp DD_Helpers.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Purewaters.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Run For Your Lives.esp SMIM-Merged-NoRiftenRopes.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HornyCreatures.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp SofiaFollower.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp KNM_Mour.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp EstrusChaurus.esp zzEstrus.esp SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp FNIS.esp GagSFX.esp GagSFXDawnguard.esp GagSFXDragonborn.esp GagSFXHearthfires.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Weapons.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Shop.esp Remodeled Armor.esp SD Patches.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SexLabTools.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp UIExtensions.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp SkyUI.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ImmerSlave.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp [/spoiler] Papyrus: Papyrus.1.log 1.67 MB · 0 downloads Papyrus.0.log 465.38 kB · 0 downloads It sounds as if you have two issues, the inventory crashes and the random crashes. I'll take the random crashes first because it is probably easier. If you are using the most recent version of MoreNastyCritters this is a know issue. If you go to that mod's support thread, MadMansGun has posted what your option are to deal with this (I'm just using an older version). The looting bug is likely due to a mesh issue with one of your mods. I'm not familiar with all of yours but look through what might be changing things that are commonly found in treasure chests and on dead bodies. Eliminate those mods one at a time until you find out what is causing it. Please post your results since it appears that there are other people interested. Good luck and good hunting.
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Psalam said: It sounds as if you have two issues, the inventory crashes and the random crashes. I'll take the random crashes first because it is probably easier. If you are using the most recent version of MoreNastyCritters this is a know issue. If you go to that mod's support thread, MadMansGun has posted what your option are to deal with this (I'm just using an older version). The looting bug is likely due to a mesh issue with one of your mods. I'm not familiar with all of yours but look through what might be changing things that are commonly found in treasure chests and on dead bodies. Eliminate those mods one at a time until you find out what is causing it. Please post your results since it appears that there are other people interested. Good luck and good hunting. Its happening before i actually get into the inventory most of the time, and sometimes its in my own house or in the middle of whiterun and for random crashes, so im not sure if its the creatures mod? i will look into it some more, you have helped me a bit last year with a similar problem, the game sometimes crashes when i hit escape before i even get into my actual inventory, and i have gotten into the same chests that i have crashed on upon reopening the game I have also added a "Bashed Patch" as i read that helps with a lot of stuff lol
Psalam Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Quote 47 minutes ago, Thomux said: Its happening before i actually get into the inventory most of the time, and sometimes its in my own house or in the middle of whiterun and for random crashes, so im not sure if its the creatures mod? i will look into it some more, you have helped me a bit last year with a similar problem, the game sometimes crashes when i hit escape before i even get into my actual inventory, and i have gotten into the same chests that i have crashed on upon reopening the game I have also added a "Bashed Patch" as i read that helps with a lot of stuff lol Is it still happening and did you fix MNC?
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Psalam said: Is it still happening and did you fix MNC? I did what was suggested to fix MNC and that mainly consisted of just fixing my papyrus setup?? but right now i want to figure out these random crashes because thats the most game breaking thing right now. ALSO SIDE QUESTION: does making a bashed patch reduce the number of plugins on my mod organizer? i feel like i have less than i began with but i could be wrong??
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 It's unlikely to be MNC at fault as you are not using version 12 by the look of things. Do you have these tools installed? Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (not needed if already using an ENB)https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost If you have not made a bashed patch then don't. Get these problems sorted before adding anything else. If you already have the patch disable it until you get these problems sorted.
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: It's unlikely to be MNC at fault as you are not using version 12 by the look of things. Do you have these tools installed? Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (not needed if already using an ENB)https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost If you have not made a bashed patch then don't. Get these problems sorted before adding anything else. If you already have the patch disable it until you get these problems sorted. I just downloaded the first 2 of the 3, since i already got my enb setup. i will update after trying these out so just untick bashed patch and rerun the game? meaning it doesn't fuck my plugins after the fact? UPDATE: So upon running the game it came up the crash fix thing saying " WARNING: ExpandSystemMemoryX64 must be set false in enblocal.ini or you may experience additional crashes!" So i went in and made that fix and will give the game a go
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 Apparently i dont have my SKSE memory patch installed, even though its in my data folder the SKSE.ini. it says i can use my mod organizer to add "forcesteamloader to my SKSE startup options" hmm... im not the best at all this so how do i do that?
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Thomux said: so just untick bashed patch and rerun the game? meaning it doesn't fuck my plugins after the fact? My point about the bashed patch is just a general trouble-shooting one. You don't add more factors when you are trying to solve something. This is doubly true with bashed patches as they are user made and therefore only as good as the user that made them (no offense). Personally, I never bother with them. 13 minutes ago, Thomux said: since i already got my enb setup While you are there, double-check your ENB, and especially your ENBlocal.ini, is configured correctly for your machine.
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thomux said: Apparently i dont have my SKSE memory patch installed, even though its in my data folder the SKSE.ini. it says i can use my mod organizer to add "forcesteamloader to my SKSE startup options" hmm... im not the best at all this so how do i do that? lol You are on your own with this one. I don't use MO. It's late here and my brain hurts. What is saying you don't have SKSE memory patch installed and what exactly is the wording? Do you mean this: 4. Start game, if you get an error saying that memory patch could not be applied read the message for help, otherwise you're good to go.
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: You are on your own with this one. I don't use MO. It's late here and my brain hurts. What is saying you don't have SKSE memory patch installed and what exactly is the wording? Do you mean this: 4. Start game, if you get an error saying that memory patch could not be applied read the message for help, otherwise you're good to go. when i open the game and get to the main menu i get a warnign saying the skse memory patch isnt installed to the game, and it tells me to add the -forcesteamloader to my skse startup options. and tells me i can disable the warning but i have the skse folder and ini setup correctly in my skyrim game data skse folder... Google told me to set -forcesteamloader as a argument in MO and i did that but i still get the warning on the main menu UPDATE! im an idiot i had my skse.ini saved as skse.ini.txt so that parts fixed So i should wait until i dont get crashes before remaking my bashed patch?
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 I don't know. I think there is an extra step to setting up SKSE with MO but I'm not sure. Maybe a user of MO will step in.
Thomux Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: I don't know. I think there is an extra step to setting up SKSE with MO but I'm not sure. Maybe a user of MO will step in. yea im an idiot haha i had it saved as skse.ini.txt ... lmao so the bashed patch i should wait on?? because it seems i need that if i want to actually see some certain mods take affect in my game
Grey Cloud Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thomux said: so the bashed patch i should wait on?? You aren't going to see much if the game is constantly crashing.
Thomux Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 yeah im still getting crashes.. also it seems to crash everytime i fast travel to a city directly and the last thing in papyrus says [06/06/2019 - 08:22:02PM] Warning: Property TESTExplosion on script DM_CrushHuman attached to Active effect 3 on (00019DD7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
yatol Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomux said: So i should wait until i dont get crashes before remaking my bashed patch? don't get the logic of that obis add obis faction to npc banditnord01 npc replacer replace headparts of npc banditnord01 what you call bash patch, it's just an esp that have both as master, with both edits to reduce the mod x overwrite mod y, so you are missing mod y (you won't crash because banditnord01 don't have obis faction, you won't crash either because npc replacer headparts are overwrite, and game generate a head instead of loading head nif) anyway 19 hours ago, Thomux said: I have tried reinstalling the mods multiple times, and can't seem to find the cause of any of this and you have just killed your save let's check the result [06/06/2019 - 01:41:58AM] Warning: Property ImperialRaceVampire on script playervampirequestscript attached to PlayerVampireQuest (000EAFD5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property unof patch come with edited playervampirequestscript mod x overwrite unof patch edit of that quest (if nothing overwrite unof patch in your load order, the save is your last esp) mod x with unof patch script, that don't work [06/06/2019 - 01:42:17AM] Loading game... [06/06/2019 - 01:42:17AM] Cannot open store for class "_frost_warmthsystem", missing file? [06/06/2019 - 01:42:17AM] Warning: Unable to get type _frost_warmthsystem referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. save have mod x stuff, you forgot to reinstall mod x [06/06/2019 - 01:42:25AM] Error: Incorrect number of arguments passed. Expected 12, got 8. stack: [slncControllerQuest (600110DF)].slncMainQuestScript.OnCreatureFrameworkRegister() - "slncMainQuestScript.psc" Line 162 [06/06/2019 - 01:42:25AM] [slnc] [slncMainQuestScript <slncControllerQuest (600110DF)>]: Entry 0: [Race <DLC2WerebearBeastRace (0401E17B)>], Werebear, [Form < (61022CF5)>], Arch Demon (MNC), None, [Form < (61022CF4)>], [] version x in save, version y in load order? [06/06/2019 - 01:43:12AM] Error: Static function ExecuteCommand not found on object consoleutil. Aborting call and returning None stack: [zadQuest (1300F624)].zadbq00.checkBlindfoldDarkFog() - "zadBQ00.psc" Line 133 [zadQuest (1300F624)].zadbq00.Maintenance() - "zadBQ00.psc" Line 140 [alias Player on quest zadQuest (1300F624)].zadPlayerScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zadPlayerScript.psc" Line 14 not the good version of consoleutil? if someone think savegamecleaner can fix that mess... it will delete leftovers from the mods you forgot to reinstall, their edits to skyrim.esm or other master will stay, so that change nothing script try to do x before doing y, x can't be done, script will try forever to do x that can't be done, freezes are that most of the time crash looting bodies, game pick loot from leveled list bearloot, wolfloot, banditloot or whatever if a leveledlist is empty, it's a ctd (you no longer have mod x, but save still have mod x leveled lists, that no longer exist) if you pick an ingredient for an armor, it's a ctd if you pick y from x, that pick x from y, don't know (but there's an error for that in errors.txt) you have something that mess with memory, with a warning because badly configured? saw some blabla about those memory things being problems with skyui doubt that have anything to do with his mudcrab looting ctd he use requiem, it's not last in load order, bet he have a mod that overwrite some of it, and the result is one of the ctd options
Thomux Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, yatol said: and you have just killed your save let's check the result well i made a fresh save?? and im not the smartest so i dont udnerstand all the papyrus reading mumbojumbo.. what do you suggest i do??
yatol Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Thomux said: what do you suggest i do?? when you saw problems, instead of fixing them, you have reinstall everything to get much more problems since you didn't reinstall everything in the same order (file order matter as much as load order) how about checking mod x work, before playing the new save, and kill it too when you mess around randomly to try to get mod x working? that's the purpose of... mod manager, you install x, it don't work, you add masters y and z you forgot, still don't work, you try differents versions, still don't work, that messing around it's just those mods folders for now, get that working, and once it work, rename folder modx to _modx, and check next mod, and when all mods are check and working, the messing around is over, and you can start a new game, with that messing around done so what is put in the save, should find what it above in load order until you install mod z that edit something, but you check mod z is working before going on with your save, and if that don't work, you mess around, and if you can't fix the mess, you forget mod z and go back to save before installing it (that's the only way to not have leftovers in the save)
Thomux Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, yatol said: when you saw problems, instead of fixing them, you have reinstall everything to get much more problems since you didn't reinstall everything in the same order (file order matter as much as load order okay.. well haha any way you could help me out finding a good install order then? cuz the mods only show the install order for that set of mods rather then all the ones i have, and i have no clue what i should be doing here
yatol Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thomux said: okay.. well haha any way you could help me out finding a good install order then? that doesn't exist you install, check the result in game, and there's something to fix, you fix it, or you get rid of the mod, that's all
Thomux Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, yatol said: that doesn't exist so i need to either spend days doing 1 mod at a time and playing each mod.... or give up
Grey Cloud Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, Thomux said: so i need to either spend days doing 1 mod at a time and playing each mod.... or give up No. Get the base game installed and configured correctly and make sure it works and is stable. Then add mods, either several at a time and check the game still works or, install what you want and do any twiddling after that. Install order? Use common sense plus watch what is overwriting what. Loot will sort your load order.
Thomux Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Use common sense plus watch what is overwriting what. Loot will sort your load order. should i install them in the order loot organizes them in?
Grey Cloud Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Thomux said: should i install them in the order loot organizes them in? If you have a copy of your previous load order then yes, why not? It will also help in not forgetting something. Just remember that it is only your plug-ins and not your mods. People put too much importance on install order. It's great if you never change any mods but what if you do change a mod? Does it mean you have to uninstall everything down to where the new mod will go and then reinstall it all again?
yatol Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 22 hours ago, Thomux said: should i install them in the order loot organizes them in? and why do you rely on loot? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918 Quote While LOOT is able to calculate correct load order positions for the vast majority of plugins using only their content, it cannot do so for all plugins. As such, LOOT provides a mechanism for supplying additional plugin metadata so that it may sort them correctly. An online masterlist is provided to supply metadata for many plugins that need it, while users can make their own metadata additions, which are saved in their userlist. an online masterlist? x like mod a more than mod b he have put it above b in that masterlist you run loot, mod a win the load order over mod b, because x like it that way how about choosing that yourself, you pick those mods, don't rely on someone else to choose what you get from them in game the only purpose of loot, it's to put master of mod x above mod x, and that's all you need a tool for that? you are using skyrim launcher? that mod is for the lazy ones since mod managers like nmm or mo that put an icon near mod x when it's above his master (that let others decide for them what the game take from his mods)
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