General Discussion

*LongDukDong* · March 15, 2023

On 3/13/2023 at 3:36 PM, LongDukDong said:

Honestly, the system 'yanks' copies of custom hiyoko creatures from the database... and none of them have Respawn flags either. So that itself was a big NOPE.

I pretty much said that. :cool:

Ah, and I now have working Tentacle Monster births.

Apart from the LST creatures you so suggested, I also plan to include the 'Soul of a Whore' from Crowning Isles, and the weird Facehugger wanna-bes from "LoversGGBlackmail'... when I get the chance.

I'm taking my time and reviewing some code.

When it comes to the original instances of Generators, they had basically made 'multiple' hiyoko references and let ONE of them be picked. This means plenty of references to .disable. This was not as clean as just randomizing a series of numbers representing the hiyokos... choosing one of the numbers, and snagging that ONE hiyoko from the list. No excess actor references added.

Brood Mother used the same mechanics from the earlier generators, and used a WHILE...LOOP system that was basically.... um.... WHY? If you are generating a SCALON creature, there are no multiple SCALONS to snag!!! So, like my editions of Generator, I eliminated this While...Loop. This cuts down on the script reading clutter and makes more sense. I mean, you only generated one Hiyoko per conception.... so it made no sense that this would force a loop for one Hiyoko. Twin births still supported.

I added more scripts, my a3hgmbGetChildSkeleton now being named a3hgmbGetSkeleton and acting much like LAPF's own skeleton model test. The test returns values of 44-46 for the LoversCreatures additions, and 47 for the LB Werewolf skeleton. So the Child Model retrieval code that uses it will now look much cleaner. I also added a VERSIONING script similar in design to all the others.

EDIT: (3 hours later?)

LoversCreature 2.5+ compatibility has just been added. By that, a creature MAY be borne male or female based upon ye olde 'TamagoClub' child gender settings... The Child Gender settings just controls if the sperm is flagged Male or Female. The generator won't change the creature into its defined gender until it is enabled and visible in-game, so this was done by adding a token to update its gender after its birth.

I haven't installed LC Mushrooms or Hitode as yet. But I have tested gender control and certain creature appearances have indeed changed... dogs... minotaurs... Yep, it works.

NO CHANGES TO ANY INI FILES OR CRAP! Its fine as it is. Just ... rearranged a few sections in the mod/plugin and made the script code easier to read. But seeing that it IS more organized, adding new supported creature content will be much easier.

Edited March 15, 2023 by LongDukDong

*LongDukDong* · August 29, 2023

Currently tied up working on the maintenance of a forum that was corrupted by an attempted Malware/Ransomware

attack. Afraid still on a bit of a hiatus.

BUT I'M STILL ALIIIIIVE!

Seriously, no one discussed JACK HERE SINCE MARCH?????

*LongDukDong* · December 15, 2023

I still exist. But damn.... now not since August? C'mon guys! SAY SOMETHING!!!

Well, I do have something.

Yes, the job I have that is not Lovers related is still taking a toll upon my LL existence, so I may vanish for some time again. But I have been tinkering with a mod. At once, something simple, but also complex. I call it Vacant Houses.

The premise of Vacant Houses is simple. In Vanilla Oblivion, you may buy a house from the city's Count, Countess, Steward or from the Imperial Office. I figured that if the residents of any other viable house 'dies'... that house should also be available for purchase.... only after you bought the vanilla house of course.

I expanded this to run checks to see if the residents of any house were 'enslaved' with LoversSlaveTrader... and just flag the house available for squatting without issue (like owned beds). And I only just added a condition into LoversSlaveTrader that works with my prototype VacantHouses that returns the house to the NPCs control upon release from slavery.

This mod only handles the 203 houses within the city walls of all the major cities (Anvil through Skingrad). Not the castles nor the chapels, not the stables, not the lighthouse, and not the imperial office where you may buy the Imperial Waterfront shack. It also doesn't cover the farms(Applewatch, etc.), small villas (Pell's Gate, Water's Edge, Hackdirt, etc) nor Forts or ruins (Fort Grief, Sercen, Fanacal). And it doesn't cover the breathtaking and beautiful Isles run by Sheogorath.

But I have allocated some script space here n there in case I want add-on capability.

Sladen2019 · December 16, 2023

Welcome back Dukky. Your Vacant Houses mod seems interesting. Will have to check it out when it is finished.

TDA5 · December 16, 2023

12 hours ago, LongDukDong said:

I still exist. But damn.... now not since August? C'mon guys! SAY SOMETHING!!!

Well, I do have something.

Yes, the job I have that is not Lovers related is still taking a toll upon my LL existence, so I may vanish for some time again. But I have been tinkering with a mod. At once, something simple, but also complex. I call it Vacant Houses.

The premise of Vacant Houses is simple. In Vanilla Oblivion, you may buy a house from the city's Count, Countess, Steward or from the Imperial Office. I figured that if the residents of any other viable house 'dies'... that house should also be available for purchase.... only after you bought the vanilla house of course.

I expanded this to run checks to see if the residents of any house were 'enslaved' with LoversSlaveTrader... and just flag the house available for squatting without issue (like owned beds). And I only just added a condition into LoversSlaveTrader that works with my prototype VacantHouses that returns the house to the NPCs control upon release from slavery.

This mod only handles the 203 houses within the city walls of all the major cities (Anvil through Skingrad). Not the castles nor the chapels, not the stables, not the lighthouse, and not the imperial office where you may buy the Imperial Waterfront shack. It also doesn't cover the farms(Applewatch, etc.), small villas (Pell's Gate, Water's Edge, Hackdirt, etc) nor Forts or ruins (Fort Grief, Sercen, Fanacal). And it doesn't cover the breathtaking and beautiful Isles run by Sheogorath.

But I have allocated some script space here n there in case I want add-on capability.

I thought you were dead... ===============

I want a mod - with girls-bunnies - with a full set of animations of bunnies, where they will run around the fields and do all sorts of things, involve passersby.. .

*LongDukDong* · December 16, 2023

16 hours ago, Sladen2019 said:

Welcome back Dukky. Your Vacant Houses mod seems interesting. Will have to check it out when it is finished.

Roughly done. I want to double-check all the scripts first.

There's a TON of dialogue for house purchases, I mean, the NPCs being like "Oh, that's a house on the East side of town, right? Yes, a pity we lost such a valiant member of the fighter's guild." ... or something like that for EACH FREAKIN HOUSE!!! In some cases, multiple depending on quest events such as for Mythic Dawn members.

Nope, I don't have vocal packs for this (... yet?).

8 hours ago, TDA5 said:

I thought you were dead... ===============

I want a mod - with girls-bunnies - with a full set of animations of bunnies, where they will run around the fields and do all sorts of things, involve passersby.. .

You just need the MBP mod Granted, she doesn't have a fluffy cottontail.

Outfit from "Children's Annuad"

TDA5 · December 16, 2023

59 minutes ago, LongDukDong said:

Roughly done. I want to double-check all the scripts first.

There's a TON of dialogue for house purchases, I mean, the NPCs being like "Oh, that's a house on the East side of town, right? Yes, a pity we lost such a valiant member of the fighter's guild." ... or something like that for EACH FREAKIN HOUSE!!! In some cases, multiple depending on quest events such as for Mythic Dawn members.

Nope, I don't have vocal packs for this (... yet?).

You just need the MBP mod Granted, she doesn't have a fluffy cottontail.

Outfit from "Children's Annuad"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1728777407132242062

*LongDukDong* · December 16, 2023

Well, that's it. Done. Granted, I put Vacant Houses in Non-Adult mods as it does not need Lovers for use.

But I left some special 'script-space' within for instances of.... Crowning Isles, Maeva's bookstore, Horse Rider, Claudia, Nehrim, and more. This if any add-ons are produced.

I do need to get back to LoversPlaySSP for the marriage system as I intend you to be able to move in with your spouse with no problem.

Edited December 16, 2023 by LongDukDong

kukenmellantuttarna · January 28, 2024

Has anyone used this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/48450

I never get it to work 100%. Many times the NPC and the player just get stuck inside each other. It would be cool to use it as an alternative foreplay or warming up for sex. The sneak button is used to exit the animation. The exit procedure could be triggered by script and then enter LPK sex instead. But it requires the animation to be stable.

Has anyone worked on that?

GMac2021 · February 5, 2024

I never use anything from the Nexus since Dante bent me over and butt raped me and over 1,000 mods. Just stopping by to ask:

I bought my fourth copy of this game today on Steam. What is common courtesy? I stopped modding Oblivion in 2013. Back then I was using a Core 2 Duo. I have an 11th gen i5. Ten years ago my scripts would only run if you were in a specific location.

Now I think I can hang out in Cheydinhal and fire off scripts in Anvil. That used to make my game crash. Crap computer...

Hi! My name is Garce. Is Greg still here?

I apologize brother. Dante made me go on a rampage. A rampage that I am still in the middle of. Fuck The laughable Nexus. I just want to punch him in the face until he stops breathing. But I should not have taken my anger out on you or LL.

The single greatest modding website on the planet.

Now. What do you assholes need help with? Hmm?? I'm going to play the game till lvl 40. No Patreon. Fuck that shit. I am 60 years old and I have enough money to last me until next Tuesday.

Is this game still relevant? Is Donkey still here?

Edited February 5, 2024 by GMac2021

GMac2021 · February 5, 2024

On 1/28/2024 at 5:59 AM, kukenmellantuttarna said:

Has anyone used this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/48450

I never get it to work 100%. Many times the NPC and the player just get stuck inside each other. It would be cool to use it as an alternative foreplay or warming up for sex. The sneak button is used to exit the animation. The exit procedure could be triggered by script and then enter LPK sex instead. But it requires the animation to be stable.

Has anyone worked on that?

That is because the Nexus is garbage. The only thing you should download from The LOL Nexus is clothes, armour, weapons.... Yadda yadda.. That website is shit. Garbage.

*LongDukDong* · February 5, 2024

1 hour ago, GMac2021 said:

Is this game still relevant? Is Donkey still here?

I'm afraid Donkey isn't here. In fact, posts he made attribute him as Donkey-Guest as if his posts were made by a guest account and not as a member. This I assume was to keep his posts here whilst removing his digital footprint.

Towards Oblivion, you may find some mods still being maintained or added. And one new quest campaign that takes you away from Cyrodiil towards an Island Paradise is in the works.

1 hour ago, GMac2021 said:

The only thing you should download from The LOL Nexus is

Well, for vampire and/or werewolf mods with quests, and an assortment others you cannot find here. Good luck finding Order of the Dragon in LoversLab.

kukenmellantuttarna · February 12, 2024

On 2/5/2024 at 1:16 AM, GMac2021 said:

I am 60 years old

I am younger but I have enough money to last me three beers.

On 2/5/2024 at 1:16 AM, GMac2021 said:

Is this game still relevant?

Everyone is waiting patiently for OpenMW oblivion version. Will take a few years more though.

GMac2021 · February 12, 2024

On 2/4/2024 at 8:37 PM, LongDukDong said:

I'm afraid Donkey isn't here. In fact, posts he made attribute him as Donkey-Guest as if his posts were made by a guest account and not as a member. This I assume was to keep his posts here whilst removing his digital footprint.

Towards Oblivion, you may find some mods still being maintained or added. And one new quest campaign that takes you away from Cyrodiil towards an Island Paradise is in the works.

Well, for vampire and/or werewolf mods with quests, and an assortment others you cannot find here. Good luck finding Order of the Dragon in LoversLab.

I have my old Win Vista HD with all my mods and tools and previous copy of Oblivion. Doesn't play well with a modern i5, though. I also bought yet another copy of Oblivion GOTY (can't find my old disks) on sale the other day.

I'll be going through everything and see what still works. Going to play vanilla for a bit first.

Thank you for the replies!

*LongDukDong* · February 12, 2024

Dinna worry. I run it on a Win10 system. Now, you may need to acquire the older 2010 C++ Redistributable for the Construction Kit Extended, but you can find that in an attachment linked in my signature.

*LongDukDong* · March 6, 2024

Well... planning on going through my works.

One option I am adding is a 'Silent Mode' feature which prevents Initialization Pop-Ups from showing at game start. With this mode added to the Tamago/Hiyoko set, I no longer have to see all those "We are now creating the name list for your hiyoko" from showing, or all the spells added (if any). I am planning to include this into LoversRaperS so all the rape spells no long need to be listed at game start. And what other mods I have that do the same will be tackled. This is the same basic feature as the Silent Load option I added to LoversSlaveTrader months ago.

Lengthy test-plays of course.

*fejeena* · March 6, 2024

Why? e.g. LoversRapers. You get the "spell add message" only once when you install the Mod and then never again.
That's good, you know the Mod works and you know how many new spells you got and the names. So you can test the new spells.
Without the message you don't even know that the mod has spell ( 90% of the Mod used do not read readmes )

It's a good thing to 'Silent Mode' spell messages you get every game start.

*LongDukDong* · March 6, 2024

Obviously, this is an 'option' that is being implemented, and will be implemented in all products of note. And its default setting is that the mode is turned Off at start. Only by the user turning it on does it take effect. When one has a large number of mods that continue to render pop-ups and messages when they begin a play-through, seeing all those messages can be rather annoying. Likewise, if one is familiar enough with the mods, they are fairly assured that the mod has indeed loaded.

With the mods from various sources which I have in my setup, I have to wade through three minutes of displays. This is an annoyance that I intend to limit, allowing users to decide for themselves if they want such messages to appear or not. And again, it is initially Off, and must be activated for use. It is their choice to use it or not.

I would "HOPE' that more mod users read the readme files than what you suggest. BUT that is why I have likewise been placing instructions of use within the actual INI files. There should be less confusion that way. Admittedly, they are in English and not all users speak the language. I wonder if anyone would wish to create 'alternate language' ini files...

Edited March 6, 2024 by LongDukDong

*fejeena* · March 6, 2024

ini option is ok. and turned off as well.

Often newbies can't find the ini or don't know that they could change anything there. . . because they never read the readme.

Maybe add a pop-up message: "Read the readme" and "There is an ini file in data\ini" :classic_wink: :classic_biggrin:

*LongDukDong* · March 6, 2024

Well, I always love to give options without deflecting away from original content or design. ADD... but never remove or alter base design.

The problem with trying to make something foolproof is that somehow there's always a bigger fool. :joy:

*LongDukDong* · March 8, 2024

On 3/5/2024 at 7:01 PM, LongDukDong said:

Well... planning on going through my works.

Yeah, no kidding. I just attacked LoversEncounter. And rather than use the convoluted means of using if...endif blocks nested within one another to generate the resulting rumour, I decided to go another route. I decided to list each rumor out one at a time, adding each one to the whole rumours-selecting array, and then let code weed out the ones that don't match the condition.

Tell me this doesn't look easier to read.

Spoiler

Each rumor has these in common:

There are six numbers that handle their 'conditions' (rape, creatures, aggressive females, etc).
There is a single number that determines text flow ( aggressor/target or target/aggressor).
There is a floating point value that handles how long the message stays on-screen
Then the text that includes two %n placeholders for character names.

It is pretty complete, though it doesn't know jack about LoversCreatures 2.5+ (later....), no determination as to what KIND of creature for any customized dialogue (Unholy daedric, Necrophilia, etc), and nothing on marital affairs (mebby later). However, the conditions added covers every rumour from the original, and then some.

... Oh, I am so open to suggestions for more rumours.

And before you say it, yes. I have wondered if I could now just have all the rumours in a TEXT/INI file to load up at game start, so rumours can be later added on the fly without changing code. But before I consider that, I need consider what other 'conditions' may be desired beyond the base 6 categories I already have.

*LongDukDong* · March 8, 2024

On 3/7/2024 at 7:15 PM, LongDukDong said:

It is pretty complete, though it doesn't know jack about LoversCreatures 2.5+ (later....), no determination as to what KIND of creature for any customized dialogue (Unholy daedric, Necrophilia, etc), and nothing on marital affairs (mebby later). However, the conditions added covers every rumour from the original, and then some.

SON of a bitch...

Do you know how much work needs to be put into LoversEncounter to make it LoversCreature 2.5+ compatible? Um... 5 lines. ON GAME LOAD, I ONLY NEED TO FUCKIN' CHECK TO SEE IF THE MOD IS IN PLACE!!! LoversEncounter already comes with TamagoClub values built-in, including a womb test. So ... just (1) check to see if LC 2.5+ is loaded, and then (2) see if the fucker has a womb!!! MALE/FEMALE TEST COMPLETE!

So now, I just lie back and reconsider how to handle the creatures... (I'm lying back now and typing train-of-thought😞

If the encounter has no creature, the encounter is set to '0' for the CREATURE test.
If the encounter has a creature running Pre-LC2.5, the encounter is set to '1' for the CREATURE test.
- With Pre-LC2.5, all creatures are assumed Male by default for the GENDERS test. M/F and M/M considerations.
If the encounter has a creature with LC2.5 is detected, the encounter is set to '2' for the CREATURE test.
- With LC2.5, it needs only test the creature for a womb for the GENDERS test, this allowing for all SameSex/HeteroSex options.
- With LC2.5, creatures, female creatures can be flagged with the FEM STYLE test... as any other. (if ever...)

In short, the messages already established do not need to be changed, or changed that much! I just need to update and adapt some sort mechanics.

~~Then, I very well MAY add a TABOO factor: Daedric, Undead, etc.~~

Scratching the whole Taboo idea. Only HalLiurz and Count Hassildor would ever generate Undead content if at all, and there's really no other Undead or Daedric reactions I've ever seen generated.

Edited March 9, 2024 by LongDukDong

mma75online · March 9, 2024

Good Luck with your modded Duk .... I'm glad that I'm not use Lovers encounter Or TamagoClub & will never use any of them specially TamagoClub .. Not my playing style.

*LongDukDong* · March 10, 2024

On 3/7/2024 at 7:15 PM, LongDukDong said:

And before you say it, yes. I have wondered if I could now just have all the rumours in a TEXT/INI file to load up at game start, so rumours can be later added on the fly without changing code. But before I consider that, I need consider what other 'conditions' may be desired beyond the base 6 categories I already have.

On 3/8/2024 at 6:47 PM, LongDukDong said:

In short, the messages already established do not need to be changed, or changed that much! I just need to update and adapt some sort mechanics.

Well, how long ago were those posts???

Yeah... I do tend to really crank code out when I put my mind to it. Albiet, I went through a number of playthroughs of messages and conditions to make sure nothing broke. And that took actual hours.

Yes, the rumours are now a separate text file that loads at game start. And as a text file, new rumours may be entered without changing actual code conditions.

AND... I now have defined 7 conditions rather than 6. Marriage status is now a part of the rumor-defining options. This can now be entertaining if Rena Bruiant and Bailey actually got busy... suggesting she liked her dog better than her hubby!

There's no way to define 'taboo' conditions like mother/daughter content between Seed-Neeus and Dar-Ma, or anything else without searching through every character lore. That's already been done regarding married couples (though the initial AdultPlayPlus ignored the Moslins in HackDirt, the couples in Border Watch... and a couple more.)

I currently only have 49 rumors, both Consentual and Rape:

Spoiler

                               ; 1------------- SEX STYLE: (0 = Consentual, 1 = Rape)
                               ; .2------------ CREATURE: (0 = NPC only, 1 = Cr x NPC, 2 = Cr.Male, 3 = Cr.Fem, 4 = Cr x Cr)
                               ; . 3----------- LOCATION: (0 = Any, 1 = Interiors, 2 = City, 3 = Wilderness)
                               ; . .4---------- GENDERS:   (0 = Any, 1 = SameSex, 2 = MM, 3 = FF, 4 = Hetero)
                               ; . . 5--------- FEM STYLE: (0 = Any, 1 = Female Submissive, 2 = Female Aggressive)
                               ; . . .6-------- MARRIED:   (0 = Any, 1 = Unmarried, 2 = Married, 3 = Cheating)
                               ; . . . 7------- TAMAGO:    (0 = Any, 1 = NotPreg, 2 = Preg )
                               ; . . . .|8----- TEXT DIR: (1 = me/target, 2 = target/me)
                               ; . . . .| |9 -- DURATION: < in ##.# format >
                               ; . . . .| |
                               ; 1234567|8|9---|XXXXXXX TEXT HERE WITH %%n and %%n representing participants XXXXXXX
                               ; .      | |    |ALERT: Yes, the supplied texts uses '%%n' rather than '%n'.

; ==============================================================================
; C O N S E N T U A L S E X R U M O U R S
; ==============================================================================

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; CONSENTUAL - GENERAL CONTENT
;
; Consentual - General
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0000000|1|07.0|Have you seen %%n and %%n together?"
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - General - Unmarried
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0000010|1|10.0|There is rumor in town that %%n and %%n fell in love. They were seen entering a hotel room together."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0000010|1|08.0|They say %%n and %%n are going out together. Have you seen them hugging each other?"
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - General - Cheating
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0000030|1|05.0|Oh, no way! %%n and %%n? I do not believe you!"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0000030|1|07.0|Have you seen %%n and %%n together? They're not even hiding it."
SetStage a3en 10

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; CONSENTUAL - INTERIOR / EXTERIOR
;
; Consentual - Interior
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0010000|1|05.0|Gosh, %%n is romancing %%n in the house!"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0010000|1|07.0|By the divines, those two were loud. I could hear %%n and %%n from out here!"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0010000|1|11.0|All that racket coming from inside? I don't know who was louder, %%n or %%n. But they sure had a good time."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Exterior (in city streets)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0020000|1|10.0|I just saw %%n and %%n doing it in the open around the corner. That's gross! Have they no shame?"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0020000|1|07.0|Really? Why can't %%n and %%n do that indoors where no one will see them?"
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Exterior (Wilderness)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0030000|1|07.0|Just out in the open? I can't believe %%n and %%n are that brazen!"
SetStage a3en 10

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; CONSENTUAL - GENDER PREFERENCES
;
; Consentual - Same Sex
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0001000|1|08.0|%%n and %%n seem to be linked by a bond that is beyond friendship."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Same Sex: MM
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0002000|1|06.0|I wonder if %%n or %%n is the 'girl', if you know what I mean."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Same Sex: FF
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0003000|1|08.0|These two women, %%n and %%n, are dating each other. They just cannot keep it secret."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem any way)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004000|1|08.0|%%n and %%n should really be careful. They might end up with a child that way."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Submissive)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004100|1|08.0|%%n and %%n were really going at it again. I wonder who was trying to make whom scream."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004100|1|10.0|Sheesh, again? %%n has been banging %%n for weeks. I'm not sure how she can walk straight anymore."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Submissive) - Not Pregnant
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004101|2|07.0|From all the racket they made, %%n might end up carrying %%n's baby."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004101|2|09.0|They were going pretty hard. %%n may end up getting %%n pregnant if they keep this up."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Submissive) - Pregnant
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004102|2|08.0|From all the racket they made, its no surprise that %%n is carrying %%n's baby."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004102|2|07.0|They were going pretty hard. Its no wonder that %%n got %%n pregnant."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Aggressor)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004200|1|09.0|Oh, those two are really at it. Sometimes I think %%n is trying to make %%n scream instead."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Aggressor) - Not Pregnant
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004201|2|09.0|They were going pretty hard. At this rate %%n will have %%n in the family way pretty soon."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - Hetero (Fem Aggressor) - Pregnant
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0004202|2|09.0|They were going pretty hard. It's no wonder that %%n got %%n knocked up."
SetStage a3en 10

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; CONSENTUAL - CREATURE GENERAL
;
; Consentual - Creature General
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0100000|1|11.0|So humans are not longer enough? I do not shy away from other races, but %%n and %%n... that's just gross."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0100000|1|07.0|Really? %%n and %%n? Lowering your standards is one thing, but this?"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0100000|1|10.0|To hear about %%n and %%n... sick. And I heard there was a lot of grunting from the both of them."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0100000|1|10.0|Between %%n and %%n, I sometimes wonder which one is actually wagging their tail in joy."
SetStage a3en 10

; Consentual - C-Male on NPC(any Gender)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "0200000|1|10.0|I heard %%n crawled on all fours and held still to let %%n take control. How low can you go?"
SetStage a3en 10

; ==============================================================================
; R A P E S E X R U M O U R S
; ==============================================================================

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; RAPE - GENERAL CONTENT
;
; Rape - General
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|1|05.0|There are witnesses who saw %%n assaulting %%n."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|2|05.0|There are witnesses who saw %%n assaulted by %%n."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|1|09.0|They claim %%n stripped and raped %%n. Oh, boy, don't get into jail for such a thing."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|2|10.0|They claim %%n was stripped and raped by %%n. Oh, boy, don't get into jail for such a thing."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|1|06.0|Damn, did %%n really rape %%n? I will never forgive him!"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|2|08.0|It is rumoured that %%n was raped by %%n. Oh, my. The world is a scary place."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000000|2|13.0|As I heard %%n was attacked and forced to... well... please %%n. Where the hell are there guards? They are never around when you need them."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - General - Female Aggressive
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1000200|1|14.0|Girls sometimes feel affection for the one who abused them. Will %%n also warm up to %%n after all these exploits? Is it a pleasant feeling, I wonder... ?"
SetStage a3en 10

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; RAPE - GENDER PREFERENCES
;
; Rape - Same Sex
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1001000|2|11.0|Oh. So %%n got bent over by %%n? And they are both of the same sex? My, my, what the world is coming to."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - Same Sex - FF
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1003000|1|11.0|Did you hear? They say %%n actually forced herself onto %%n, pinning her down. The actual lack of shame."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - Hetero - Female Sub
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004100|2|05.0|I just heard that %%n got reamed real good by %%n this time."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004100|1|06.0|Did you hear? They say %%n really worked %%n over this time."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - Hetero - Female Sub (Not Preg)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004101|2|11.0|I just heard that %%n got reamed real good this time. Its almost like %%n is trying to get her pregnant."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004101|1|10.0|Did you hear? They say %%n really worked her over this time. %%n might get pregnant this time."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - Hetero - Female Sub (Preg)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004102|2|09.0|I just heard that %%n still got reamed real good. %%n doesn't care that she's pregnant."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004102|1|06.0|Did you hear? Even while pregnant, %%n still worked %%n over."
SetStage a3en 10

; Rape - Hetero - Female Aggressor
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1004200|1|11.0|Did you hear? They say %%n actually forced herself onto %%n, pinned him down. The actual lack of shame."
SetStage a3en 10

; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; RAPE - CREATURE GENERAL
;
; Rape - Creature - C-Male on NPC(any Gender)
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1200000|1|06.0|Damn, did %%n really rape %%n? I will never forgive him!"
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1200000|2|08.0|It is rumoured that %%n was raped by %%n. Oh, my. The world is a scary place."
SetStage a3en 10
set a3en.sRumor to sv_Construct "1200000|2|13.0|As I heard %%n was attacked and forced to... well... please %%n. Where the hell are there guards? They are never around when you need them."
SetStage a3en 10

BETTER breakdown on the 7 category types

Spoiler

Organized like a Bitmap, the first entires are:

(1) Consentual vs Rape

(2) Creature

(3) Location Style

(4) Genders

(5) Female Participation Style

(6) Marriage State

(7) Pregnancy

CONSENTUAL:
The first digit of the 7, this is merely an on/off 0-1 switch:

0: Set to this, the dialogue is between consenting adults

1: Set to this, the dialogue assumes that the sex is being forced.

CREATURE:
The second digit of the 7, this value ranges from values 0 to 4:

0: Set to this, the rumour is defined solely for NPCs. It is not available for any creature content

1: Set to this, the rumour is defined between NPC and Creature. There is no defined creature preference.

2: Set to this, the rumour is for NPC and Creature and suggests that the Creature is indeed male.

3: Set to this, the rumour is for NPC and Creature and suggests that the Creature is female.

4: Set to this, the rumour is specifically for Creature X Creature sex.

LOCATION:
The third digit of the 7, this value ranges from 0-3:

0: Set to this, the rumours can be used anywhere. It is assumed that no location is specified within.

1: Set to this, the rumours suggest that sex had taken place within a house or some domicile.

2: Set to this, the rumours suggest that sex occured outside, but on the streets or within city walls.

3: Set to this, the rumours suggest that the sex had taken place outside the city.

GENDERS:

The fourth digit of the 7, this value also ranges between 0-4:

0: Set to this, the rumors do not care between the participant's genders.

1: Set to this, the rumors merely reflect same-sex coupling.

2: Set to this, the rumours depict male-on-male same-sex coupling.

3: Set to this, the rumours suggest female-on-female same-sex coupling.

4: Set to this, the rumours should suggest male-on-female coupling.

FEMALE PARTICIPATION STYLE:

The fifth digit of the 7, this value has a simpler 0-2 range:

0: Anything generic permitted (usually assumes female NPC submissive).

1: This enforces a female being the submissive. Creature included if not SameSex.

2: This suggests that the female is the aggressor in the situation

MARRIAGE STATE:

The sixth digit of the 7, this value ranges from 0-4:

0: The rumor defined has no bearing on anyone being married or not

1: Neither of the participants are married.

2: Both participants are married to each other.

3: CHEATERS! Any of the participants may be married, but not to each other.

4: Widowed. The participant lost their 'other' either pre-defined or quest related.

PREGNANCY STATE:
The last of the 7 digits, this ranges between 0-2:
0: Pregnancy has no bearing and is a general rumor

1: The partner defined (assumed receiving) is not pregnant (used for 'impending?')

2: The partner defined actually IS pregnant. Can't get MORE knocked up, can she?

Between all these, a very elaborate collection of rumours should be possible.

If anyone had suitable ideas for rumours, I would actually not mind. I figure this needs to be filled a bit more.

EDIT:
I just added 'widows' as an option in the Marriage Style category. This for Countess Valga, Ursanne Loche, Eduard Retiene or a handful of others predestined to lose their counterpart... IF a package (present or future) allows an encounter. But it will not as yet account for unplanned deaths if the player goes murder-hobo.

Also... new configuration options added:

GUARDS: You can now disable any rumours that involve guards, or limit them to just aggressive or submissive couplings.
GOSSIP DELAY: The displayed rumours have a defined duration. However, the duration can now be cut to just half the speed or doubled in length with a (-10 to 10) range. 0 is obviously ignored and the duration is normal.

Edited March 10, 2024 by LongDukDong

*LongDukDong* · March 16, 2024

While working on some code to test for the detection of XXXXX, it dawned on me that there had to be a better way than make detection methods for certain things over ... and over... and over again. For example, TamagoClub takes a history of your activities and says where you first got busy or where you just got laid. And in LoversEncounter, it branches dialogue on whether you are inside a building, in a city, or not. Both use a system to just check World Cell locations...

... So why not make a simple "Detectable" plugin?

This suggested plugin merely reads a text file that has the following content:

The basic name of world cell. But not like "BrumaWorld". Just "Bruma".
The formID of that world cell
The MOD to which that world cell belongs

The mod would read this list into memory, and have one (relatively) simple script. In my mind, each line it reads would be in the format: "FormID|WorldSpace Name|Mod Name". So a three-parameter line, each param ceparated by a pipe ("|") character.

scriptname WorldMapTest

Ref Actor ; Function Param: Actor tested

Array_var ListArray ; Variable: Copy of worldSpace list array

Array_var TestArray ; Variable: Three-Param Array for individual worldSpace

String_var ListString ; Variable: Line acquired from the worldSpace array

String_var sForm ; Variable: FormID for individual WorldSpace

String_var sMod ; Variable: Mod where the worldSpace exists

Short Counter ; Variable: Loop counter

Begin Function { Actor }

;; Assume not detected
SetFunctionValue 0

;; Acquire list of FormIDs from quest array
Let ListArray := xMyList.WorldList

;; Reset for loop

Let Counter := 0

;; Cycle through each line within the array

while Counter < ar_Size ListArray

;

Let ListString := ListArray[Counter]

Let TestArray := sv_split ListString "|"

; Acquire the FormID and its Mod

Let sForm := $TestArray[0]

Let sMod := $TestArray[2]

; Acquire the test reference for the worldSpace

Let TestRef := GetFormFromMod $sMod $sForm

; Test if the actor is in the worldSpace

If Actor.GetInWorldSpace TestRef

SetFunctionValue 1

endIf

;

loop

;; Cleanup

ListArray := ar_Null

TestArray:= ar_Null

sv_destruct ListString

sv_destruct sForm

sv_destruct sMod

;; Exit with return

Return

End

This... just off the top of my head. No joke, I brainstormed that right here while typing

SCARY, Isn't it?

Once done, I could theoretically just do a little magic and 'detect' if this mod is loaded in my Oblivion load order, and use GetFormFromMod and just access this single script's function. And yes, I have been able to make mods that are not a part of "CrowningIsles" and still determine if my PC was in the isles with that mod. So theoretically, this should be... FUN.

EDIT: Oh, and another list for EditorIDs for specific areas like Hackdirt, Pell's Gate or whatever needs to be named. :cool:

Edited March 16, 2024 by LongDukDong

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