Adult mods, are they harmless fun or harmful

[Nonsense667]

He's got a valid point once you get past the barrage of "fuck".

 

I like my swears what can I say. XD They're a part of language as much as any other.

[DoctaSax]

Seems to me that people who fear the impact of playing video games or game mods on real-life behavior have more trouble distinguishing reality from fiction than the players usually do.

[Thorham]

So I was wondering what is the psychological impact of adult mods in gaming and do they generally ruin games by changing its focus.

Not for me' date=' but I only use kinky outfits for my female character, and don't use mods that change the actual game play.

 

Does anyone else feel guilty for playing these mods

There's absolutely no reason to feel guilty about things that don't harm anyone.

 

Im wondering If Im being a prude or being prudent

There's nothing wrong with being a prude.

[Guest WildWyrd]

The line has to be drawn somewhere, it was the same with the video store I took over. There was a horror movie with actual real fortage of a mass murderer tormenting his victims, when I took over the store I removed it from the shelves and destroyed the disk, it was basically a snuff film, the fact that it made it through any kind of legal classification is beyond me. Soon after I was confronted by a customer who said she had noticed it was gone, I gave her my reasons, and she said good idea, she had watched the film and it was extremely disturbing and she wished she had never watched it.

 

So in regards to your question it may be hypocrisy but I do not think pedophile should even exist, yes its a horrible thing to rape someone but its also a horrible thing to shoot someone however you see people shooting each other all over the tv. But for something as evil and wrong as pedophilia there is simply no excuse, because otherwise you will get these sick basters using skyrim ect to feed their fantasies. DEATH PENALTY TO PEDOPHILES.

[gregathit]

Guys, let's knock off the swearing at fellow forum members. You are free to swear as much as you like, just not at other forum members.

 

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[Guest WildWyrd]

Guys' date=' let's knock off the swearing at fellow forum members. You are free to swear as much as you like, just not at other forum members.

 

Further abuse of fellow forum members will result in warnings issued.

 

Thanks for your understanding and compliance.

-Greg[/color']

 

I wasn't actually swearing at other members, the comments are not actually directed at any board members directly more a presentation of an argument for why I think x = y ect, apologies if this came across as an attack.

[leddis3]

Anybody who can't distinguish fantasy from reality has deep seated problems that do not originate in adult mods or videogames or anything else.

 

I myself have very dark fantasies, but that's all they are. Just because I get off on the idea that random creatures can rape me in Oblivion doesn't mean that I approve of rape on myself or anyone else no more than me racking up a kill count in the hundreds in the game makes me a potential mass murderer.

 

Even if the alarmists were right and these are murder simulators and sex simulators. Here's the thing: IT'S A SIMULATOR. It's not real! No people, animals or giant abominations sent straight from the insane depths of C'thulu's mind were harmed.

[Remy]

If adult games/mods would have an inpact on people, that they would run arround and rape everything, it would have happened long time ago.

The problem here is, we are hearing all the time about how bad sex is and we should hide it, its filthy...you have tons of movies where blood flows like a waterfall and noone is concerned about it, but put a nipple on the screen and suddenly everyone runs for pitches and forks.

 

Sexuality is part of us and by supressing it, like we do, we only make it manifest itself in worser forms...like child abuse, rape etc.

Remember, shit like rape and other stuff was happening long before any games existed.

 

Im more concerned about what they put on tv then what they put in games.

[leddis3]

I can see how well Oblivion mods would apply to real life too.

 

"I CAST MY RAPE SPELL!!"

 

*gets arrested for disturbing the peace*

 

"Hi officer, why don't we have sex instead of you arresting me?"

 

"...."

 

*spends the day in a jail cell*

[Remy]

I can see how well Oblivion mods would apply to real life too.

 

"I CAST MY RAPE SPELL!!"

 

*STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM....!

 

"Hi officer' date=' why don't we have sex instead of you arresting me?"

 

"...."

 

*spends the day in a jail cell*

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Fixed

[Grumpf]

Hello all this is the first time posting here, I've tried a few adult mods out of curiosity and always feel bad and delete them after playing them a bit.

Well for a first post you surely have raised interest in the community!

My question is: what exactly make you feel bad? Guilt? Embarrassement?

So I was wondering what is the psychological impact of adult mods in gaming and do they generally ruin games by changing its focus.

I guess that depends on the mod itself. By definition a mod WILL "ruin" the game as it'll change it... Now there are simple mods and mods with a story...

 

Some quests mods are a story of their own and merely use the context of the original game to be a game by themselves.

 

All Bethesda games have various degree of sex hinted in them, it's just that the developpers didn't get past the "hint" barrier. But I can tell you that Necrophilia, Rape, Snuff, Child abuse, Animal abuse are all part of the original games "lore".

If anyone could also provide official documentation either for or against adult gaming that would be great.

You'll find studies but they'll be irrelevant as generally it'll published too late...

You may find some deep insight studies about the influence of MS Pac-Man in a sexaul context VS regular Pac-Man but that's not helping with emo teen eroge-like free game like, for example, katawa-shoujo.

[Guest WildWyrd]

Well its all back to a medieval religious conditioning of sex is un-pure, logically I dont believe god cares either way so long as its not harming any one but I was educated in a fanatical christian school and that religious conditioning is very hard to break.

 

Now days I follow a more spiritual divine faith path than an strict religious doctrine.

 

I think part of the problem is when I download a mod I heavily test its so I dont end up wasting time or cheating on my main char, so when I download these kind or mods the game becomes purely about getting my character through sexual situations. the same thing happens whenever I address any non lore friendly content, it breaks the role-play value for me.

 

When I play rpg's I dont play in the sense of watching the character progressing through the world, I play in the sense of I am the character so I kind of jump into the characters mindset, thats what I love is role-playing all combat ect is secondary for me. So when excessively testing mods I always break the immersion and therefore my game enjoyment is reduced to nothing.

 

I usually end up over testing the sex mods though because I want to see how robust the scripts are ect and sex mods take a lot of coding.

 

I kind of gave up trying to find a proper study there are too many theories and everyone says something different.

 

usually the only reason I go for the sex mods is because I get an idea stuck in my head that requires a sex component, like vampires posing as courtesans, brood-mothers of demonic creatures, or role playing a succubus character (Im vain and succubi are supposed to be the models of the demonic realms lol).

lol remy

[Remy]

Well its all back to a medieval religious conditioning of sex is un-pure' date=' logically I dont believe god cares either way so long as its not harming any one but I was educated in a fanatical christian school and that religious conditioning is very hard to break.

 

Now days I follow a more spiritual divine faith path than an strict religious doctrine.

 

I think part of the problem is when I download a mod I heavily test its so I dont end up wasting time or cheating on my main char, so when I download these kind or mods the game becomes purely about getting my character through sexual situations. the same thing happens whenever I address any non lore friendly content, it breaks the role-play value for me.

 

When I play rpg's I dont play in the sense of watching the character progressing through the world, I play in the sense of I am the character so I kind of jump into the characters mindset, thats what I love is role-playing all combat ect is secondary for me. So when excessively testing mods I always break the immersion and therefore my game enjoyment is reduced to nothing.

 

I usually end up over testing the sex mods though because I want to see how robust the scripts are ect and sex mods take a lot of coding.

 

I kind of gave up trying to find a proper study there are too many theories and everyone says something different.

 

usually the only reason I go for the sex mods is because I get an idea stuck in my head that requires a sex component, like vampires posing as courtesans, brood-mothers of demonic creatures, or role playing a succubus character (Im vain and succubi are supposed to be the models of the demonic realms lol).

lol remy

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Yeah christianity and all that stuff makes people like that, pretty much all of the prejudice comes from there.

 

On the other side, despite growing up in such enviroment, you seem to be an openminded person, wich is something i can only applaud, its not easy to stay that way, while hearing all that brainwashing.

But, yeah, as you said it has still a heavy inpact on ones view of these things...all i can say is, stay true to your feelings, if you feel its not right then simply stop, or you can simply overcome that feeling by even more openmindness.

If god would be pissed at us everytime we touch ourselfs or play a sex mod, this planet would become empty in no time lol.

[leddis3]

Prior to Abrahamic religions, sex was celebrated. You had fertility and sex gods, and statues depicting sex and sexual organs.

I've often found it fascinating how Abrahamic religions have such an obsession with controlling our sex lives. It's not even practical when you think about it and yet this attitude has persisted for thousands of years.

[Grumpf]

We're slowly but surely drifting from some questions about adult mod (not specialy sex mind you...) to Religious discussion...

 

Please, let's not

[Guest WildWyrd]

Well Im avoiding adult mods atm now, but I wish I could keep the bandit capture mod, I love the idea that bandits capture you rather than simply kill you. It was also perfect for my succubus character get captured and turn the bandits against each other Muhahahah. Still my current character is a vampire who is helpful and kind but vindictive and deadly to evil doers, she uses mavens lot as personal blood bags and after finding the daughter uses cruel alchemy she now lies face down in the waterways of riften.

[Sartor]

Speaking of specific games (Fallout series, cause I`m now playing New Vegas)... when I first played FO3 just asked myself - where the hell is sex, that was in the previous game? Of course - sex is bad, and bodies (or even parts of bodies) in raiders & supermutants camps that seems to be a work of a maniac-butcher - THIS is very normal? Or the mightiest ingame faction of Little Lamplight, just because kids ingame are immortal (its very unlogical)?

 

Fallout world is very cruel not only in survival aspects. Will real bandits rape woman if she would come in their lair alone? Yes. Why then raiders are just maniac killers? Or in New Vegas "powdergangers prison". If you playing female char, and get into place where are dozens of criminals, will they be praying on you as a goddess, or just take their pants off and rape? When I played NV and first came to NCR CF I just thought - its not damn real, but with Sexout mods - yeah, this is more logical and realistic. Realistic in Fallout reality (but mb in real world to).

 

Adult games are not morale question, its just a logic. There where sex and sex related things must be, they must be. And they are harmless of course - unless person who plays dont think that game is real world (that case is clinic/"это уже клиника" as in our country people says). For others its only fun, why not.

 

As for me - game industry should look not in USA and Europe for their morale, but to Japan. Lolicon manga... and they do not take it as something vary bad (at least as I heard, mb I`m wrong). Yeah thats a bit difficult - there is law and gamedevs and issuers are officials.

 

And again - games is not real life so there can be everything, and if it personally insults somebody, then - just dont buy and dont play. If somebody thinks that sex with elves (or other races in TES games) are insulting - dont download such mods, while others will download and have sex in Skyrim just for fun.

[leddis3]

Fallout world is very cruel not only in survival aspects. Will real bandits rape woman if she would come in their lair alone? Yes. Why then raiders are just maniac killers? Or in New Vegas "powdergangers prison". If you playing female char' date=' and get into place where are dozens of criminals, will they be praying on you as a goddess, or just take their pants off and rape? When I played NV and first came to NCR CF I just thought - its not damn real, but with Sexout mods - yeah, this is more logical and realistic. Realistic in Fallout reality (but mb in real world to).[/quote']

 

Well no because I'd shoot their dumb asses.

Of course that probably would be their intent. I do think some mods lean too far in the other direction though, like Legion dorks openly trying to rape the Courier even if she's working for Caesar which I'm pretty sure would result in Caesar having their dicks cut off. If they were lucky.

But hey I just don't use those and move on, if that floats anyone's boat it's really none of my business.

[R733]

The line has to be drawn somewhere, it was the same with the video store I took over. There was a horror movie with actual real fortage of a mass murderer tormenting his victims, when I took over the store I removed it from the shelves and destroyed the disk, it was basically a snuff film, the fact that it made it through any kind of legal classification is beyond me. Soon after I was confronted by a customer who said she had noticed it was gone, I gave her my reasons, and she said good idea, she had watched the film and it was extremely disturbing and she wished she had never watched it.

 

So in regards to your question it may be hypocrisy but I do not think pedophile should even exist, yes its a horrible thing to rape someone but its also a horrible thing to shoot someone however you see people shooting each other all over the tv. But for something as evil and wrong as pedophilia there is simply no excuse, because otherwise you will get these sick basters using skyrim ect to feed their fantasies. DEATH PENALTY TO PEDOPHILES.

 

Yea, I've got a guestion;

 

I fuck only  mature ducks (then bite their fucking heads off and cook them for dinner), but I know this guy, really sick bastard, he... fucks ducklings. I mean, how bad is that? So, I was thinking... Maybe lord would like me to fuck that sick basterd up the ass and then chop his fucking head off? I could eat his body to get rid of evidence, sort of sacrifice and communion ritual... I mean all that "shall not kill" bullshit dosen't concern sick ducklings fuckers. Plus, I could use his kidneys to make myself some new pair of slippers...

 

One more thing; killing ducks (and ducklings) is obviously fine as they show it on tv. That's why I shoot the ducklings then fuck their corpses in front of their duck mother. This way I can bee fine with the lord and norms enforced by our righteous society. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[The Irreverend]

The line has to be drawn somewhere, it was the same with the video store I took over. There was a horror movie with actual real fortage of a mass murderer tormenting his victims, when I took over the store I removed it from the shelves and destroyed the disk, it was basically a snuff film, the fact that it made it through any kind of legal classification is beyond me. Soon after I was confronted by a customer who said she had noticed it was gone, I gave her my reasons, and she said good idea, she had watched the film and it was extremely disturbing and she wished she had never watched it.

 

 

What movie was it?

[Monsto Brukes]

Adult mods like fuck/rape anims? (I think you should call these sex mods)

 

Or adult mods like nude women with rubbery tits and inflated asses? (R rated mods)

 

The sex mods aren't necessarily about the game imo. They seem to use the game engine as a simulation engine and then enterprising animators make porn scenes. Nothin wrong with that... not really my cup of tea. But hey... whatever floats their boat. 

 

I'd say that the reason you "feel bad" is that it's not really your cup of tea either.

 

psychological impact? if the viewer of a sex mod is underage, objectively they should get a pat on the back for installing the thing and getting it working. psychologically, I don't think it would have any different impact that getting into the nether-corners of the pop-porn-culture internet... the tube sites, torrents, cam sites, etc.

 

If you are underage, I think you'd be better off finding a tube site and installing some R rated mods and skimpy armors.

[Jerbsinator]

Personally I don't believe they are harmful, just like playing violent video games won't turn you into a psychotic murderer. The media wants you to think it will, but the media has been full of shit for years and it's only purpose today is to brainwash people.

[AgentChicken]

Fun, I was being chased by a bandit and she ended up being raped by a bear so i could high tail it out of there .

[sen4mi]

But that doesn't work. If you don't have some kind of moral and social foundation, all you've got is anarchy, and anarchy sucks. 

 

I am going to go off-topic, here: This "anarchy sucks" thing probably depends on what you mean by "anarchy".

 

Sadly, some significant "anarchist" activities (especially, the particularly destructive kinds) have been government funded entrapment gimmicks.

 

And, governments are a social response to violence, and violence strengthens the motivations people have for strong government. So, "true anarchists" are the quiet helpful sorts that build strong societies and mostly ignore government bumbling. And, yes, these people exist, and some call themselves anarchists (and, one kind old lady that called herself an anarchist died of old age earlier this month).

 

Meanwhile, back on topic, my feeling is that sexual content in games is inherently lower in harmful potential than violent content in games. And, I'm dubious of the idea that violent content in games has any inherent harm.

 

But if you do not get enough exercise? And, if you do not sleep adequately and on a good schedule?  If you do not eat proper food? THAT can be harmful... ... so... take care of yourself.

[Guest Pudgygrunt]

Why would you go on lover's lab then question adult mods.... seriously broham.. if you don't like mods that go to far, go to non-adult or nexus.

 

My personal experience is that nude mods are a novelty and get old eventually, and most other ones arent playing the game anymore, theyre making skyrim into a porn game, which is all well and good, but I am not really interested in that. OBVIOUSLY a lot of other people are into things more like that with their skyrim and that's all cool. its up to you, make your own decisions and quit being a bitch. yup.