Adult mods, are they harmless fun or harmful

[Guest WildWyrd]

Hello all this is the first time posting here, I've tried a few adult mods out of curiosity and always feel bad and delete them after playing them a bit.

 

So I was wondering what is the psychological impact of adult mods in gaming and do they generally ruin games by changing its focus.

 

Does anyone else feel guilty for playing these mods, I cant decide wether I want adult mods or not. On one hand it peaks my curiosity and sometimes I just have a concept inbreeded in my mind that needs an adult mod like (running a brothel run by vampires who pose as courtesans).

 

This is not a judgement on anyone here but Im wondering If Im being a prude or being prudent (rolls eyes, terrible humor). Frankly the time and effort going into these mods is simply amazing.

 

If anyone could also provide official documentation either for or against adult gaming that would be great.

[deathparade]

I don't think adult mods have any influence on people except if they let it.

 

But the question you ask is a really good one and very debateable.

 

I myself don't feel any form of guilt it's a game and should be viewed like that i useally play the game first through without mods (except mods that increase stability and fix bugs) before trying other kind of mods like adult mods etc.

 

But i wouldn't know about any researches into adult games as most of these games are banned or belong to modding which is abscent in many modern games (Sadly)

[Something]

I think it's no more harmful than video games in general are. You voluntarily decide to participate in the experience of a game or Adult Mod's content. If you're a minor that's another issue, but considering the overwhelming majority of us, I would like to think, are legal consenting adults, there's no real harm done. What the mods do is force a mass of ones and zeroes into performing actions we can perceive to be sensual. Perfectly harmless.

[Corpus Vile]

Hello all this is the first time posting here' date=' I've tried a few adult mods out of curiosity and always feel bad and delete them after playing them a bit.

 

So I was wondering what is the psychological impact of adult mods in gaming and do they generally ruin games by changing its focus.[/quote']

 

They don't change a game's focus, not necessarily... well, some do.

But for the most part I find that they add things that should have been there in the first place, but for (sadly) obvious reasons weren't included from the beginning.

Let's take Oblivion as an example (but this really applies to any adventure/RPG game): why shouldn't my char be able to get laid? Or simply naked. Why shouldn't he/she be able to pay off a bounty with a blowjob, strip for money, or offer his/her body to a bunch of robbers in exchange for his/her life. Or, well, be gangraped by minotaurs.

Whatever floats your boat, yes? Yes. If it keeps you entertained, then it's serving its purpose.

My point is that many of these mods actually add to the realism, or rather credibility, of a game.

 

Does anyone else feel guilty for playing these mods [...]

 

Short answer: no.

Long answer: never felt guilty for enjoying anything, no. If I find it enjoyable there's not much I can do about it. Perhaps I could tell myself I don't, but why would I.

[Ark of Truth]

Just keep telling yourself this one imple rule:

 

"What happens in the game stays in the game :)"

 

(running a brothel run by vampires who pose as courtesans)

 

I want a mod like this!!

[GrimReaper]

 

 

If anyone could also provide official documentation either for or against adult gaming that would be great.

 

You won't find anything useful. Depending on with intent those studies are made, the results vary greatly.

[Guest WildWyrd]

Well thank-you all for your insights, I have to say, I totally understand about the mods adding to the game, allowing players to engage in more adult role-play situations, things like assassins posing as courtesans for the yarls before knifing them in the back. Basically if you add a seduction level to the game it opens up opportunities for serious political intrigue like turning the bandits against each other, sure you can clean out dungeons the traditional way but there is something so fulfilling about manipulating the bandits to kill one another through jealousy.

 

One point I wanted to play a priestess of diabella/Mara, going forth and spreading the word of love from diabella and compassion of mara. In lore its hinted that diabella's priestess provide certain services to worshipers on festival days.

 

I think it comes down to different levels for different people.

[wardminator]

Hello all this is the first time posting here' date=' I've tried a few adult mods out of curiosity and always feel bad and delete them after playing them a bit.

 

So I was wondering what is the psychological impact of adult mods in gaming and do they generally ruin games by changing its focus.

 

Does anyone else feel guilty for playing these mods, I cant decide wether I want adult mods or not. On one hand it peaks my curiosity and sometimes I just have a concept inbreeded in my mind that needs an adult mod like (running a brothel run by vampires who pose as courtesans).

 

This is not a judgement on anyone here but Im wondering If Im being a prude or being prudent (rolls eyes, terrible humor). Frankly the time and effort going into these mods is simply amazing.

 

If anyone could also provide official documentation either for or against adult gaming that would be great.

[/quote']

 

Have you not ever roll played in the bedroom with your significant other? To me there isn't any difference between adult gaming and adult roll playing(which in a an RPG, that is what you are doing, thus the reason for the name Roll Playing Game). The difference is, you don't have the mess and emotional baggage that can (I didn't say does) come with bedroom roll playing. The biggest difference is, gaming mods open up extraordinary avenues that allow you to create scenarios that otherwise wouldn't be available in real life, or more importantly, what you wouldn't even think of doing in real life. Like the game itself, it plays to one's imagination. Ask yourself, would you, in real life, walk into a den of deathclaws armed with only a few bullets for the best weapon available at the time in real life? No. Nor would you go to a brothel run by vampires who pose as courtesans in real life either.

 

I'm by no means a psychologist, but I would say that the guilt you feel about playing an adult mod is due to the fact that you are not comfortable with your own sexuality. There are certain things in life that are highly inappropriate, such as distributing a catalog just in time for Christmas with the "F" word prominently displayed throughout, which Urban Outfitters just did (and I still can't believe they actually did that). Exploring sexual fantasy within a computer game in the privacy of your own home is not.

[polluxval]

sex games help people taking decisions on real life (involving sex of course) and improve enjoyment of those moments. so... they are harmless AND fun.

[Guest]

Psychological impact varies per person. Ultimately people who come across these mods have the ability to choose whether or not they play them. A person should not face any psychological impact that they didn't see coming.

 

I don't think that adult mods ruin the game experience. I'd even go ahead and say that they can improve and enhance the game experience. Oblivion for example is a boring and dull game without mods and adult mods like others serve to add new features to the game. Some lovers plugins are lore breaking or just plain don't make sense but it's still better than vanilla oblivion. Sexout does a great job at being faithful to lore and those plugins really do enhance the game.

 

I've never felt the slightest bit guilty for playing these sort of mods. They have no influence on the real world and only serve as entertainment.

 

just my .2 cents.

[Something]

I, for one, am not too concerned with lore. In Skyrim, i'll be Princess Luna in Black Templars Power Armor dual-wielding lightsabers if I want to.

[DoctaSax]

A variety of characters I used to play in Oblivion saved the world... oh about a few dozen times from various threats. I'd hate to think they did all that and never got laid.

[Atreyu]

I personally play through games once without mods to get the story(I do that with console gaming). After that, I go for mods. And being an adult with needs, I like to delve into adult mods, which I think only adds to the game. I'm even going to release a race mod soon that you can choose to play through the game normally, but also has a side purpose of being used with adult mods.

 

I think the one you should be asking if content like that is harmful or not is yourself. How do you take them. Choosing to uninstall them after a while is a choice noone else can make for you.

[Jexsam]

I kinda know what the OP means by feeling like sometimes adult mods shift the focus of the game. xLovers especially was awful for most of its larger mods basically having no discernible connection to lore or any practical benefit to gameplay. There were of course exceptions (LoversPayBandit, LoversBitch, LoversCreature to some degree, etc) but for the most part it was just Japanese modders trying to turn OB into a shitty sex game. Because of this, the mods felt detached from the game.

 

Sexout for NV is the opposite. Most of the work for it is very faithful to the feel of the game even if the premise is silly or disgusting, such as Breeder. The mods work very well with the game, and many even provide rather thoughtful expansions on the gameplay, such as worrying about STD's.

 

As for feeling guilty about using some of those mods, I can't say I ever have. But I'm very picky about what I use and which characters use them. Occasionally I'll feel a bit guilty subjecting a character to certain mods or poses just because in hindsight that sort of thing would be highly out of character for them. But ultimately, I suppose, I've never felt guilty about using the mods themselves.

 

As to harmless or harmful... that's debatable.

 

On the one hand, if you happen to have a fetish or that is destructive, distasteful, disgusting, or otherwise frowned upon by society, it can be a fine outlet. Hardcore bestiality, lolicon, gore, all can be virtually exercised with no harm to anyone. You get your kicks, and it's completely victimless. And really, anything that can keep a pedophile from targeting actual children can't be all bad.

 

On the other hand, it's questionable to start with whether certain impulses should be stimulated at all. If the enjoyment you derive from beheading people in-game has less to do with the game and more to do with the act of beheading, you probably have a problem and might need help. Same goes for sex mods, children mods, and beast mods. Put another way, if you'd rather have sex with a ten-year-old in real life than in a video game (or any other non-flesh-and-blood medium)... you'd probably be better off seeking professional help. Meanwhile if you enjoy virtual bestiality but are kind of disgusted by the real deal, you're probably okay.

[Emily]

Dungeon & Dragon with pornography are deliciously harmful.

 

Emily the strange simply love to mislead the young'uns to oblvion & her erotic storm of lust. Carnal.

[Guest WildWyrd]

I kinda know what the OP means by feeling like sometimes adult mods shift the focus of the game. xLovers especially was awful for most of its larger mods basically having no discernible connection to lore or any practical benefit to gameplay. There were of course exceptions (LoversPayBandit' date=' LoversBitch, LoversCreature to some degree, etc) but for the most part it was just Japanese modders trying to turn OB into a shitty sex game. Because of this, the mods felt detached from the game.

 

Sexout for NV is the opposite. Most of the work for it is very faithful to the feel of the game even if the premise is silly or disgusting, such as Breeder. The mods work very well with the game, and many even provide rather thoughtful expansions on the gameplay, such as worrying about STD's.

 

As for feeling guilty about using some of those mods, I can't say I ever have. But I'm very picky about what I use and which characters use them. Occasionally I'll feel a bit guilty subjecting a character to certain mods or poses just because in hindsight that sort of thing would be highly out of character for them. But ultimately, I suppose, I've never felt guilty about using the mods [i']themselves[/i].

 

As to harmless or harmful... that's debatable.

 

On the one hand, if you happen to have a fetish or that is destructive, distasteful, disgusting, or otherwise frowned upon by society, it can be a fine outlet. Hardcore bestiality, lolicon, gore, all can be virtually exercised with no harm to anyone. You get your kicks, and it's completely victimless. And really, anything that can keep a pedophile from targeting actual children can't be all bad.

 

On the other hand, it's questionable to start with whether certain impulses should be stimulated at all. If the enjoyment you derive from beheading people in-game has less to do with the game and more to do with the act of beheading, you probably have a problem and might need help. Same goes for sex mods, children mods, and beast mods. Put another way, if you'd rather have sex with a ten-year-old in real life than in a video game (or any other non-flesh-and-blood medium)... you'd probably be better off seeking professional help. Meanwhile if you enjoy virtual bestiality but are kind of disgusted by the real deal, you're probably okay.

 

I have to say some stimuli should be crushed, and experiencing a thrill only strengthens the fetish (like child porn).

 

With that said thinking about things, I come from a strong christian background (attended a christian school) so I guess Im still trying to get over their message of the body is disgusting and should be covered by layers of cloth ;p lol.

 

Until Im more comfortable with my own body I think Ill just avoid adult mods, now that Ive seen all the mods on this site that peaked my curiosity (for skyrim anyway) Im going to go back to a clean game, <.< >.> ignore the trail of headless corpses behind me lol.

 

I think on the ruining the game side, I test all mods with test chars to make sure Ive got everything installed properly and if there are any deal breaking bugs, so in the end I spend all the time going through a logical mindset (test chars create no player char connection) bug check, its like checking off a list which is boring after awhile. Not to mention the time you take downloading the mods, putting them into the game, It seems to take more effort installing an adult mod that other mods, usually because they have far reaching requirements like this particular mod and that mod.

 

on a side note, has anyone ever thought about a first person animated view for these mods, I was bored one day and enabled tfc while testing sanguine debauchery mod, so I was flying around with the cam waiting for the scene to finnish, anyway I flew the cam back too my char and kind of had this view of the npc on top (missionary position) from my chars view point, and I couldn't help thinking that would make an awesome romance cam mod thing, then I flew the came to a rock and pretended to be a gargoyle for a bit.

 

As for real life I would hate being raped and robed by bandits and forced to work for them, but if any weird tentlce sex monster pops ip Im so running towards it (lol).

[wardminator]

With that said thinking about things' date=' I come from a strong christian background (attended a christian school) so I guess Im still trying to get over their message of the body is disgusting and should be covered by layers of cloth ;p lol.

[/quote']

 

I am also from a strong Christian background, my father being a former Baptist Minister. What they say about the daughters of Ministers is not only true, it is not just limited to their daughters. Though I am a firm believer in the Holy Trinity, I abhor organized religion simply because it is just that. The Church is supposed to teach the Word of God and not be judgmental. I don't listen to the "Bible Thumpers" because all too often, they are hypocrites. What you do, how you think, and how you feel is nobody's business. Draw your own conclusions and make your own decisions for yourself, because only you can rectify that with God.

 

As for the body being disgusting... Nah, I don't think so. God is the greatest of all artist. That whole deal with the body being disgusting is the product of those that practice organized religion that are trying to convince themselves that how they think and feel is actually wrong.

 

Now that we have gone there and opened that can of worms, let me throw in this disclaimer... This is only my humble opinion!

[Emily]

Emily got everything you need.

 

Nothing is sacred.

 

Name your poison.

[Nonsense667]

No

 

And fuck documentation or fucking official findings or any of that bullshit. Fuck society, culture, and the various moral agencies of the world telling you whats wrong and whats right. Do what you will with your life, whatever that may be, and allow others that same right. Simple.

 

Edit:

 

I have to say some stimuli should be crushed' date=' and experiencing a thrill only strengthens the fetish (like child porn). [/quote']

 

And fuck you too.

 

As for real life I would hate being raped and robed by bandits and forced to work for them, but if any weird tentlce sex monster pops ip Im so running towards it (lol).

 

Fucking hypocrite

[Dmouse52]

the body being disgusting.... that's funny! It's only Anglo Saxon races that believe that (this means aussies, Yanks, Brits and irish(who aren't anglo saxon) but seriously you can go to most european cities especially Italy where porn and "doing the nasty" is pretty much regarded as being a fact of life. ever seen big brother spanish edition? They had some couple openly admiting they've had sex with the others and the british one? well it happened twice and WOW didn't it make front page news in most daily papers. Let's look at brazil, a very deeply catholic country and yet the relaxed attitude to sex is amazing and then look at Ireland also a deeply catholic and the attitude is sex is filthy,filthy,filthy and prostestant countries? not much different! I am supposing sex mods,films and drawings are very harmful if you're very uptight about sex

[Corpus Vile]

[...] you can go to most european cities especially Italy where porn and "doing the nasty" is pretty much regarded as being a fact of life.

 

That's sort of true for northern "Italy" (sorry' date=' adding quotation marks is a spontaneous reaction that occurs everytime I refer to that... abstract concept)[/size'], but then again it's not like there is a collective orgy going on at all times.

The media and public opinion in general are of the same sort you could find anywhere; that is to say, they pretend to adhere to some kind of moral system no one really cares about to maintain an illusion of integrity in the common man's petty mind.

This, and you'd probably be surprised by how overtly prudish the Catholic south is.

And yes, technically the north is Catholic as well, but in fact hardly anyone under the age of 30 really cares about Christianity anymore. Apparently, acting all humanitarian and radical chic is the new national religion today.

Anyway... I'm quite sure that this notion ("nudity/sex is evil") is not related to any race in particular; in this case it's not in the blood, it's in the brain.

I'm positive about this, simply because no culture in Europe considered sex as something obscene... at least not before the dark ages (312 C.E. - ongoing).

[Jexsam]

No

 

And fuck documentation or fucking official findings or any of that bullshit. Fuck society' date=' culture, and the various moral agencies of the world telling you whats wrong and whats right. Do what you will with your life, whatever that may be, and allow others that same right. Simple.[/quote']

 

But that doesn't work. If you don't have some kind of moral and social foundation, all you've got is anarchy, and anarchy sucks. People do not and have never worked entirely without some sort of society, and in any society worth a damn, people are taught at least a basis of the concepts of right and wrong. Without some kind of instruction in right and wrong, how do you decide what "allowing others the same right" even is? You'd have to teach people, at the very least, that doing to others what you wouldn't want done to you is bad. And guess what; that's a concept a right and wrong. And when you've got a bunch of people teaching a moral code to a bunch of other people, holy shit that's a moral institution!

 

Dismissing documentation and official findings is stupid, too, since those are based on facts. You mean to tell me you're just gonna throw science out the window because you have beef with society? That's like trying to dismiss gravity because you don't like falling on your ass. The universe doesn't work like that.

 

I have to say some stimuli should be crushed' date=' and experiencing a thrill only strengthens the fetish (like child porn). [/quote']

 

And fuck you too.

 

Are you serious? You mean to tell me despite your unicorns-and-rainbows declaration of "live your life your own way and allow others to do the same", you're going to sit there and defend the pursuit of harmful and destructive fetishes like pedophilia, dismemberment, murder, cannibalism? Fetishes that I shouldn't have to remind you are harmful to others, which incidentally prevents the harmed from living their lives their own way, or at all?

 

You're the fucking hypocrite you bleeding dickhole.

[Nonsense667]

But that doesn't work. If you don't have some kind of moral and social foundation' date=' all you've got is anarchy, and anarchy [i']sucks[/i]. People do not and have never worked entirely without some sort of society, and in any society worth a damn, people are taught at least a basis of the concepts of right and wrong. Without some kind of instruction in right and wrong, how do you decide what "allowing others the same right" even is? You'd have to teach people, at the very least, that doing to others what you wouldn't want done to you is bad. And guess what; that's a concept a right and wrong. And when you've got a bunch of people teaching a moral code to a bunch of other people, holy shit that's a moral institution!

 

Dismissing documentation and official findings is stupid, too, since those are based on facts. You mean to tell me you're just gonna throw science out the window because you have beef with society? That's like trying to dismiss gravity because you don't like falling on your ass. The universe doesn't work like that.

 

I'm not saying don't have society or culture. I'm saying fuck a culture that's telling you "no, you can't do that thing that you are harming no one by doing because its *wrong.*"

 

And yes, if people point to science and documentations, and say "this study says that people who do X are far more likely to do (insert bad stuff)" Then fuck those studies. I'm not saying those studies are wrong. Sure, maybe people who do X are in fact, more LIKELY to do (bad stuff) but even if 100% of people who do X are guaranteed to do (bad stuff), X, no matter how "morally wrong," is still something that all should be allowed to do, if it falls under living your life how you want it, and letting others do the same. So fuck those studies = fuck those people who would use said studies to push their morals on others.

 

And I don't have a beef with society... for the record... :\

 

Are you serious? You mean to tell me despite your unicorns-and-rainbows declaration of "live your life your own way and allow others to do the same", you're going to sit there and defend the pursuit of harmful and destructive fetishes like pedophilia, dismemberment, murder, cannibalism? Fetishes that I shouldn't have to remind you are harmful to others, which incidentally prevents the harmed from living their lives their own way, or at all?

 

You're the fucking hypocrite you bleeding dickhole.

 

Yes, they said that some stimuli should be crushed, like "child porn," then went on to say that however, even though they thought rape in real life was bad, rape stimuli they were perfectly fine with. Or in other words, "My sick disgusting fetish is okay, while your sick disgusting fetish is wrong." And no, having a fetish, no matter the fetish, is not harmful to others. Ever. Someone can act on that fetish in a way that is harmful to others, but the fetish itself has done no harm. So yes, I do believe that people with fetishes like pedophilia, dismemberment, murder, cannibalism, are just as acceptable as those with rape and bestiality fetishes, which are just as acceptable as those with foot fetishes and glasses fetishes.

[Duoleb The Chosen]

No

 

And fuck documentation or fucking official findings or any of that bullshit. Fuck society' date=' culture, and the various moral agencies of the world telling you whats wrong and whats right. Do what you will with your life, whatever that may be, and allow others that same right. Simple.

 

Edit:

 

I have to say some stimuli should be crushed, and experiencing a thrill only strengthens the fetish (like child porn).

 

And fuck you too.

 

As for real life I would hate being raped and robed by bandits and forced to work for them, but if any weird tentlce sex monster pops ip Im so running towards it (lol).

 

Fucking hypocrite

 

now you went full retarded

[Corpus Vile]

now you went full retarded

 

He's got a valid point once you get past the barrage of "fuck".