guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[ascendentkunglao]

@user037951 Hello, it's actually https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54994?tab=files.  Ryan Reos Dark Elf Blader, was on the front page of Nexus for sometime.

[Acornins]

Decided to completely scrap my mods on MO2 and go through the list again to make sure I'm doing it right. Luckily, I have no life and this is easier to do xD. 

[kesryth]

15 hours ago, ascendentkunglao said:

Besides my early post about Lucien, I'm really confused as why all of my additional NPCs from Capital Windhelm are having dark face issue?  Any tips on getting to the bottom of it?  I ended up downloading "Face Discoloration Fix" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441, seemed to solve all the issues with the Capital Windhelm NPCs.

 

Still got to figure out Lucien because I think he's hilarious.

@ascendentkunglaoSo i decided to see if I had this issue as well, since i had not been to Windhelm yet on this playthrough, and I found i had blackfaces on the windhelm bridge vendors.

Did some digging, recheded my entire load order, and found no issue there. I then used the improved console and found that the last touch on the blackface NPCs was being done by the Capital Windhelm HPNPC and KSHair patch. Could not see anything missing or misconfigured in the ESP in sseedit, but nothing looked out of place except some odd blanks in the facepart sections for the NPC i was testing with.

Looking on the site for Capital Windhelm Expansion, i saw there was another patch available that only handled the HPNPC facegen data and did not have the KSHair dependency.. swapped the patches and all the blackfaces got cleaned up.

 

TLDR.. had blackface bug with Capital Windhelm HPNPC and KSHair Patch, replaced it with the HPNPC Patch (made by Mycenia and does not rely on KShairs.). I know @Aylishas not seen this issue, so not sure if its luck or what for us, but figured that swapping the patch would be better than adding the face discoloration fix as an additional mod.

as always, ymmv

 

**update**

Interesting.. the HPNPC patch uses the same esp name as the Capital Windhelm HPNPC and KC Hair patch, so it looks like it was a 'cleaned' version to remove the kchair dependency.

Edited October 9, 2021 by kesryth

[rodrigo2]

I've been away for awhile and return to find a new SL Framework update; any special problems with it?  Any special improvements?

[Aylis]

@trgdolors

A. Very stable

 

1. Most condensed one, but yes (as usual check post #1 too).

2. A. No

    B. Yes 

 

B. You don't want to know. Only so much: i can't sleep well if i know something isn't working properly.

 

 

@kesryth

I'll exchange the patch. And you're right. The mentioned mod only hides the problem, but it doesn't fix it.

 

 

@rodrigo2

Encountered no problems with it.

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Next update will be the (now two) patches and some minor visual updates that can be just dropped in.

 

No need to rerun DynDOLOD or create a new bashed patch. The to be removed mods are safe and don't need to be cleaned from a savegame. Just ignore the warning when you load the game.

 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Aylis

[Spoolooni]

Hello,

 

I found that I had to disable Aldamar - Druid Mushroom Home as a mod for DYNDOLOD to process. Everything runs fine though and I can confirm Windows Defender's Real Time Protection messes with the process despite the exclusions. 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Spoolooni

[jaeos]

5 hours ago, Acornins said:

Decided to completely scrap my mods on MO2 and go through the list again to make sure I'm doing it right. Luckily, I have no life and this is easier to do xD. 

only reason to scrap an entire LO is there were so many changes and updates that you would be installing the exact same files anyway, an easier method is one @wollboi suggested is turn them all off, right click each mod and send to bottom, go though entire list and just uninstall mods not on list, or skip them, when done you can highligh all of the mods you skipped and sent to bottom, make a separator (mine is called dead mods) turn all of your "good mods" on one by one, when you get to the bottom, if you still have a warning in the corner, see what is saying it is missing it's master. (if it is bashed ignore it for a second) fix the rest, then open up wryebash and update the wryebash esp to current load order. will save you a few hours at least.

[jaeos]

5 hours ago, Acornins said:

 

Alright, it's not very hard once you do it a few times.

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i'm just turning them off, you should just turn them off as well. make sure fores is checked on, and nemesis is OFF

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then run FNIS

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(i have a lot more animations than the current list shows) 

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switch the FNIS and Nemesis programs off/on status ( i did it before adding the FNIS to my shut off FNIS Output mod that was created) just to go to the bottom of the mod list for the rest of the guide.

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turn on the FNIS output (and the nemesis output if it says it cannot find the output file)

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Run nemesis until you get the behavior generation complete (xxx) seconds taken. (mine crashed 3 times just doing this guide)

 

Just exit nemesis when you are done. Now it's all updated. don't turn fores back on. 

[jaeos]

9 hours ago, trgdolors said:

 

 

Quick question: Now that Jedi Trees is out, how stable is the guide at the moment in terms of the trees?

 

I currently still have Jedi Trees and have been waiting to replace them. But RL has me busy so I have been patient.

 

1) Should I just follow Hotfix post #7597 on page 304 as the best source of info to replace the trees?

 

2) Could there be more tree changes in the near term? Or are we good for now?

 

Thanks everyone for all the troubleshooting you are doing on all fronts, especially Aylis (Holy Cow, do you EVER sleep? Please take care of yourself)! I am excited to catch up when I get a chance.

 

And to the relatively new people (and all you "watching from home" who don't yet post):

 

This can be a frustrating, complex, and time consuming game to mod. You just have to enjoy the process. It is one giant insane puzzle. If we are all patient and courteous with our issues, and do a lot of our own research, and step up to help when we can, we can keep this most unlimited of guides going. And push the envelope ever further.

 

Again: "PLAY Skyrim?"

i play alot of skyrim.. 

i did not say for fun.. 

just that i play alot.

Probably because i don't update my mod to the newest and bestest each time. I'll skip a few iterations since most of the changes are going to be texture related and not game engine changes.  And if it's not completely unplayable why update when mine looks almost as good and might be better in one of two areas compared to the list because an effect from a no longer listed mod is better than the current mod. 

Keeping a good list going is important, but knowing all of the minutia of each mod and how they interact isn't something i can keep up with. such as jedi trees. i'm still using the trees from before the nexus exodus. 

[rodrigo2]

What are the benefits of the Baka version of SexLab Aroused Redux & the Baka version of Defeat?

 

[jaeos]

1 hour ago, rodrigo2 said:

What are the benefits of the Baka version of SexLab Aroused Redux & the Baka version of Defeat?

 

the old versions were just that, old. The Baka editions run a little better, less script lag. But do be mindful of the npc v npc scripts are not working very well.

[alaunus01]

1 hour ago, rodrigo2 said:

What are the benefits of the Baka version of SexLab Aroused Redux & the Baka version of Defeat?

 

 

Baka adds more #keywords that get used by other mods down the line to apply stuff. If you don't need it use the regular versions and enjoy not having more strain on performance.

[rodrigo2]

21 minutes ago, jaeos said:

the old versions were just that, old. The Baka editions run a little better, less script lag. But do be mindful of the npc v npc scripts are not working very well.

 

Hmmm....I like the NPC vs NPC feature!  Is Baka better or worse in this regard?

[jaeos]

7 minutes ago, rodrigo2 said:

 

Hmmm....I like the NPC vs NPC feature!  Is Baka better or worse in this regard?

it's glitched in the baka version, could cause ctd or lockup. 

[rodrigo2]

54 minutes ago, jaeos said:

it's glitched in the baka version, could cause ctd or lockup. 

 

Thanks for the heads up!  NPC vs NPC is rare enough as it is!  (Perhaps it should be a separate mod entirely?)

 

[alaunus01]

1 hour ago, rodrigo2 said:

 

Thanks for the heads up!  NPC vs NPC is rare enough as it is!  (Perhaps it should be a separate mod entirely?)

 

 

All the combat defeat solutions are more or less a hot mess, there are at least half a dozen mods that offer some kind of it and a couple more abandoned ones where people thought they could do it better and ended up running away clawing their eyes out.

 

Here is my take on it. If you want combat defeat to be a thing in your playthrough you better have a premium* system to run it on. No matter how you slice it any mod dealing with that kind of stuff will put a huge strain on the engine and you really don't want to end up having to wait a couple minutes each time before the after combat scenarios even begin to play out not to mention how awkward it looks if some actors port around to catch up with other actors that have started to walk around again because it took too long.

 

And regarding Sexlab Arousal, I prefer the dll solution which worked out fine during my last run once I figured out the arousal maxes to 100 in seconds user error.

 

*premium system as in 9900k / 5900x 32gb ram and better

[Acornins]

Small issue I'm having with DynDOLOD as I'm really confused where I'm suppose to put the main folder with the texture generator, etc. The Document it comes with says this > the sub folders 'Docs' and 'Edit Scripts' with all their content into a new 'DynDOLOD' folder outside of special OS folders like 'Programs Files' or 'Program Files (x86)', the SteamApps or game folders and Mod Organizers virtual file structure. Do not mix with old versions or xEdit/xLODGen installation.<

 

So...where exactly do I put the folder? I did try to run the texture generator but get a error.

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[jaeos]

4 hours ago, alaunus01 said:

 

All the combat defeat solutions are more or less a hot mess, there are at least half a dozen mods that offer some kind of it and a couple more abandoned ones where people thought they could do it better and ended up running away clawing their eyes out.

 

Here is my take on it. If you want combat defeat to be a thing in your playthrough you better have a premium* system to run it on. No matter how you slice it any mod dealing with that kind of stuff will put a huge strain on the engine and you really don't want to end up having to wait a couple minutes each time before the after combat scenarios even begin to play out not to mention how awkward it looks if some actors port around to catch up with other actors that have started to walk around again because it took too long.

 

And regarding Sexlab Arousal, I prefer the dll solution which worked out fine during my last run once I figured out the arousal maxes to 100 in seconds user error.

 

*premium system as in 9900k / 5900x 32gb ram and better

yeah, i'm running a 3900x with 2 2070 supers and have the script lag issue on the first time. repeated scenes have almost zero lag even after running to the other side of the map, so it may be a initialization of scripts lag

[jaeos]

12 minutes ago, Acornins said:

Small issue I'm having with DynDOLOD as I'm really confused where I'm suppose to put the main folder with the texture generator, etc. The Document it comes with says this > the sub folders 'Docs' and 'Edit Scripts' with all their content into a new 'DynDOLOD' folder outside of special OS folders like 'Programs Files' or 'Program Files (x86)', the SteamApps or game folders and Mod Organizers virtual file structure. Do not mix with old versions or xEdit/xLODGen installation.<

 

So...where exactly do I put the folder? I did try to run the texture generator but get a error.

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ok. you're showing and asking about 2 problems (potentially) one is where does dyndolod go? mine is inside the main MO2 folder. D:/MO2/DyndoLod

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the screenshot tells me you didn't do a few things. 

in the top right run the "steam" launcher for the game. (the one that pops up for settings.) just choose low or medium on the graphics (it will have no effect if you replaced all of the textures in MO2)

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launch the game through that launcher, everyone suggests getting through the carriage scene, i've never had a problem just getting to the main menu then exiting.

then re-run dyndolod

Edited October 10, 2021 by jaeos

[jaeos]

6 hours ago, rodrigo2 said:

 

Thanks for the heads up!  NPC vs NPC is rare enough as it is!  (Perhaps it should be a separate mod entirely?)

 

Defeat just handles COMBAT sex. I.E. rape. ABMM handles everything else. 

[Acornins]

37 minutes ago, jaeos said:

ok. you're showing and asking about 2 problems (potentially) one is where does dyndolod go? mine is inside the main MO2 folder. D:/MO2/DyndoLod

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the screenshot tells me you didn't do a few things. 

in the top right run the "steam" launcher for the game. (the one that pops up for settings.) just choose low or medium on the graphics (it will have no effect if you replaced all of the textures in MO2)

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launch the game through that launcher, everyone suggests getting through the carriage scene, i've never had a problem just getting to the main menu then exiting.

then re-run dyndolod

Didn't seem to work, still having the issue.

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That is what happens when I click on the button and texgen pops up.

 

Edit - ok I have to figure out where I edit to put SSE. I derped and realized. Configuration files and settings use the game mode as identifier. It is TES5 for Skyrim, SSE for both Skyrim Special Edition and Skyrim VR, ENDERAL for any Enderal version.

 

Edit x2 - Ok I got it to work! I could of swore I thought I had put in the command in so I put in -SSE and it worked.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Acornins

[Aylis]

Never thought this would happen...

 

I found a texture mod that:

1. Improves the meshes of the mountains (way less Bethesda edges)

2. Gives us better textures

3. Includes all textures that got anything to do with rocks

4. Actually works with snow

 

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Standard 'Majestic Mountains'

 

Improved 'Majestic Mountains'

I've been looking for something like this for years now...

Edited October 10, 2021 by Aylis

[wollboi]

@ascendentkunglao @kesryth Just chiming in to say I had the exact same issue with the same fix. The new patch fixed it all for me.

 

@Acornins DynDOLOD 3 seems much stricter about which folder it's happy operating in. I've just been running it from Downloads, but @jaeos's suggestion is better.

[remodel]

2 hours ago, Aylis said:

Never thought this would happen...

 

I found a texture mod that:

1. Improves the meshes of the mountains (way less Bethesda edges)

2. Gives us better textures

3. Includes all textures that got anything to do with rocks

4. Actually works with snow

 

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Standard 'Majestic Mountains'

 

Improved 'Majestic Mountains'

I've been looking for something like this for years now...

Not to throw water on this but both are beautiful to me. I love what you've done for the visuals and when I get my my new computer I'll follow your guide and join your Patreon.

 

Why do I like both versions?  Well the old Majestic Mountains look like the mountains I've seen around Ouray Colorado (sharper edges included) were silver was mined, lovely Vistas.  The improved version looks like the mountains in Yosemite with granite faces, just lovely too.  Google and you'll see what I'm saying.

 

Either way I'll enjoy.

Edited October 10, 2021 by remodel

[Acornins]

Here is my load order after getting most of the stuff working, the only thing I CANNOT get to work is the Fnis/Nemesis even after following the directions. The Nemesis Output just doesn't override the FNIS Output.

 

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I'm 10000% sure I likely have some stuff in the wrong place but I've been staring at MO2 for so long and numbers and names that it started to blend together.

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I got the DynDOlod figured out \o/..now it's just fnis and nemesis.

 

Minor edit - the reason I don't have the Rudy ENB in there is because the download page is down atm for updates.

 

Edit 2 -...ok for some reason it's working now even though nemesis output isn't overriding anything?? BUT I'LL ROLL WITH IT.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Acornins