Violence6884 Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Hey. All of a sudden various creatures lost their description when I hover my cross hair over them, no name, no prompts come up... Ordinator's pop up for "Wild Companion" being an exception. I just can't activate them in any way. In the console I can target them just fine. Google-Fu revealed that most people who had this(Although with named friendly NPCs) either had Sneak Tools installed(And wearing some mask) or a particular mod called "Animations" was blocking the NPCs. I made sure none of these are true in my case. It was suggested somewhere it could be an issue with simply too many NPCs in one cell, however considering where I am and how many NPCs are around me, this can't be the case. Any help would be appreciated! -.-' Edit - I should add that for all other intents and purposes all creatures work 100%, their AI is working(I attacked and they behave as expected), they can initiate sex scenes and so on.
Psalam Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Spoiler 22 hours ago, Violence6884 said: Hey. All of a sudden various creatures lost their description when I hover my cross hair over them, no name, no prompts come up... Ordinator's pop up for "Wild Companion" being an exception. I just can't activate them in any way. In the console I can target them just fine. Google-Fu revealed that most people who had this(Although with named friendly NPCs) either had Sneak Tools installed(And wearing some mask) or a particular mod called "Animations" was blocking the NPCs. I made sure none of these are true in my case. It was suggested somewhere it could be an issue with simply too many NPCs in one cell, however considering where I am and how many NPCs are around me, this can't be the case. Any help would be appreciated! -.-' Edit - I should add that for all other intents and purposes all creatures work 100%, their AI is working(I attacked and they behave as expected), they can initiate sex scenes and so on. Apparently, like me, no one has a clue. If you want to post a load order (preferably from LOOT and preferably in a spoiler) I'm sure someone will take a look and make some suggestions.
Violence6884 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Posted December 1, 2018 Preferably from LOOT? As in, export it in a particular way through LOOT? Normally I'd just copy paste my LO as is, after exporting it from NMM.
Psalam Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Spoiler 8 minutes ago, Violence6884 said: Preferably from LOOT? As in, export it in a particular way through LOOT? Normally I'd just copy paste my LO as is, after exporting it from NMM. Run LOOT. In the upper right hand corner, on the blue bar, you will see an icon consisting of three vertical dots or buttons. When you press it one of your options will be to copy your load order. Do so and paste that here (see my blog, the link is in my signature below, if you want to know why the load order from LOOT is preferable).
donttouchmethere Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Run LOOT. In the upper right hand corner, on the blue bar, you will see an icon consisting of three vertical dots or buttons. When you press it one of your options will be to copy your load order. Do so and paste that here (see my blog, the link is in my signature below, if you want to know why the load order from LOOT is preferable). AT LAST I was too afraid of LOOT to press all buttons to find that export function =D
Grey Cloud Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said: I was too afraid of LOOT to press all buttons to find that export function "Holy cowardy custards, Batman". ?
Violence6884 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Posted December 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Run LOOT. In the upper right hand corner, on the blue bar, you will see an icon consisting of three vertical dots or buttons. When you press it one of your options will be to copy your load order. I see. I usually just let NMM figure out the load order, then manually change what needs to be changed according to each mod's instructions. In that case I might install LOOT later on and do as you say, hoping I won't mess up anything. Believe it or not, LOOT looks VERY intimidating to me. Basically everything looks intimidating to me when it comes to Skyrim mods- I've never even once used the CK or TESEdit(I think that's its name?). It's a wonder I managed to understand how MergedPlugIns works, about which I still have some doubts ;3
Violence6884 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 @Psalam Out of curiosity I did what you suggest and the result was actually the same as simply exporting my LO off NM. I suppose the numbers next to the mods tell you something I don't know about, in any case here it is... Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp 8 8 Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 d SexLabAroused.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Assets.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 11 BeeingFemale.esm 18 12 RSkyrimChildren.esm 19 13 daymoyl.esm 20 14 hdtHighHeel.esm 21 15 Heels Sound.esm 22 16 HighResTexturePack01.esp 23 17 HighResTexturePack02.esp 24 18 HighResTexturePack03.esp 25 19 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 26 1a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 27 1b SMIM-Merged-All.esp 28 1c Gildergreen Regrown.esp 29 1d Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 30 1e SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 31 1f Scent of Sex.esp 32 20 MagnoCumGaudio.esp 33 21 PuppetMaster.esp 34 22 HentaiCreatures.esp 35 23 SexLab More Creatures.esp 36 24 animal_mansion.esp 37 25 dc-untamed-000.esp 38 26 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 39 27 SexLab Extra Voices.esp 40 28 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 41 29 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 42 2a Blush When Aroused.esp 43 2b Blush When Aroused CE.esp 44 2c sr_FillHerUp.esp 45 2d sr_FillThemUp.esp 46 2e Devious Devices - Equip.esp 47 2f DeviouslyHelpless.esp 48 30 EstrusChaurus.esp 49 31 EstrusSpider.esp 50 32 SexlabDefeat.esp 51 33 mslDeviousCaptures.esp 52 34 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 53 35 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 54 36 SD Addons.esp 55 37 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 56 38 Deviously Enslaved.esp 57 39 NIOVHH.esp EquipableStockings.esp 58 3a ClothesA.esp Gantz Outfit.esp 17914liwu.esp [GFB]DOA5 Wedding dress.esp SweetPeaCustom.esp LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp Cre Sailor Moon costume CBBE HDT.esp chinaDressRavana (Daiemonic edit).esp Succubus_CBBEByNausicaa.esp bbd_sxs.esp [Melodic] Super Bodysuit.esp Latex Witch - Nokou.esp [COCO]ParagonShinbi_full.esp EvaCloth.esp Bowsette.esp Luxury Collection.esp DF_T20.esp DV Jeans.esp Helena Strikers Suit.esp SupertightTop.esp TheMage.esp Leifang AQUAPLUS Mashup.esp [GFB]Mature_vice.esp SisterSlave.esp S&D black temptation.esp dem BURLESQUE.esp FFX SEX LULU Armor.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp AionBard.esp Headcrab_BunnyOutfit.esp Hot Uniforms Maid.esp Nakrulz's Latex Corset.esp Jennes.esp Neo's Tina By Nausicaa.esp MagicianGirlsSet.esp DAZ3D Pumps and Stocking.esp Neo's Scouter Set.esp Young_Trap.esp TERAArmors.esp blessarmors.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp BazoongasWorkShop_AfterSchool.esp Sarah Halloween 2017.esp DEM BodyCollection.esp VindictusMixRobes.esp _ImoMegane.esp Dark Leere Armor.esp AssassinArmor.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp Tera-Bikini.esp Lucy.esp shoespack.esp Bob's Boots CBBE v8.0.esp Elewin Sunglasses.esp female maid2 smp.esp XXWidowmakerHH.esp Necromancer's Outfit.esp DEM Pantyhose SLE.esp KatwomanArmor.esp BBD Skimpy Assassin Outfit.esp Luxlucis.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp UUNPBlackCorset.esp Aradia Tri.esp SexyEveningDress.esp Kokoro Halloween.esp BBD_Nova.esp LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp N8KLittleCarmineDress.esp Dancing Shadow Rose.esp SpecialLeatherArmor.esp R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp [NINI] Death Lady.esp Halloween - Tina.esp NewmLongHeels.esp Azera Sorceress.esp Bless Weapons Collection.esp TeraSuccubusArmor.esp Bondage Straps.esp Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp KS Jewelry.esp Jersey Dress.esp PeroPeroGoma_Bodysuit.esp Pumps.esp BabyDolls.esp TERA Weapons.esp 59 3b Shimmer Heels.esp 60 3c BeastessLair.esp 61 3d ElysiumEstate.esp 62 3e buildablehouse.esp 63 3f LakeHaven.esp 64 40 mintylightningmod.esp 65 41 WondersofWeather.esp 66 42 Morning Fogs.esp 67 43 Supreme Fog.esp 68 44 Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp 69 45 Personalized Music v 6.0.esp 70 46 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 71 47 AOS.esp AOS2_SoS Patch.esp 72 48 FISS.esp 73 49 SkyUI.esp 74 4a UIExtensions.esp 75 4b Extended UI.esp 76 4c RaceMenu.esp 77 4d RaceMenuPlugin.esp 78 4e RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 79 4f RaceMenuMimic.esp 80 50 SOSRaceMenu.esp 81 51 JaxonzUtilities.esp 82 52 JaxonzValetSortFixes.esp 83 53 RealNames.esp 84 54 My Home Is Your Home.esp 85 55 Animation Objects - Merged.esp 86 56 Poser Hotkeys.esp 87 57 IAPoses Module.esp 88 58 dovahkiinrelax.esp 89 59 bm_SimpleAction.esp 90 5a Animations.esp 91 5b ShakeIt!.esp 92 5c ShakeItSomeMore!.esp 93 5d Emote.esp 94 5e PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 95 5f PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 96 60 Random Emotions.esp 97 61 GoToBed.esp 98 62 GoToBed - Hearthfire coffins fix.esp 99 63 HoamaiiSleepingBags.esp 100 64 VioLens.esp 101 65 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 102 66 goodbrother.esp 103 67 tcbm.esp 104 68 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 105 69 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 106 6a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 107 6b HearthfireMultiKid.esp 108 6c HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 109 6d sandboxcylinderheight.esp 110 6e MoreBrains.esp 111 6f Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp 112 70 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 113 71 Dead Body Collision.esp 114 72 HertVampireFixedDG.esp 115 73 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 116 74 Cosmetics6.esp stocking.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp KS Hairdo's.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Babette.esp Kai's Lipstick.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp HN66_NAILS4ALL_GauntletSupport1.esp 117 75 SlaveTats.esp 118 76 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 119 77 Skin Universalizer.esp 120 78 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp 121 79 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 122 7a hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 123 7b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 124 7c Immersive Weapons.esp 125 7d Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 126 7e WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 127 7f Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp 128 80 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp 129 81 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 130 82 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 131 83 Rapier and Dagger.esp 132 84 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 133 85 NewArmoury.esp 134 86 Animated Immersive Weaps.esp 135 87 Rapier&DaggerNA.esp 136 88 AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp 137 89 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 138 8a dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 139 8b dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 140 8c AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 141 8d AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 142 8e ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp 143 8f ISC CCF Patch.esp 144 90 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 145 91 ISC WAFR Patch.esp 146 92 DeadlyDragons.esp 147 93 DeadlyDragonsMNCPatch.esp 148 94 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 149 95 Convenient Horses.esp 150 96 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp 151 97 Draw!!.esp 152 98 Civil War Overhaul.esp 153 99 Immersive Patrols II.esp 154 9a DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 155 9b Animal Tweaks.esp 156 9c Rebirth Monster.esp 157 9d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 158 9e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 159 9f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp 160 a0 Animal Tweaks - SIC.esp 161 a1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 162 a2 WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp 163 a3 Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp 164 a4 Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp 165 a5 Rebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.esp 166 a6 Rebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp 167 a7 Rebirth Monster - Animal Tweaks Patch.esp 168 a8 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 169 a9 MoreNastyCritters.esp 170 aa BDIC.esp 171 ab SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 172 ac Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 173 ad Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp 174 ae Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 175 af Vigor - Torso Bandage.esp 176 b0 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 177 b1 Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp 178 b2 Realistic AI Detection 2 - High Interior, High Exterior.esp 179 b3 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 180 b4 Summermyst - TrueWeapons.esp 181 b5 Mortal Enemies.esp 182 b6 Mortal Enemies - AT Patch.esp 183 b7 Mortal Enemies - SIC.esp 184 b8 Mortal Enemies - SIC DLC2.esp 185 b9 Vigor - Movement Tweaks.esp 186 ba Backup Movement Speed Reduction.esp 187 bb RealisticMovementSpeedReduction.esp 188 bc attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp 189 bd No Sidestepping.esp 190 be AddItemMenuLE.esp 191 bf QoL2.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp AMatterOfTime.esp ShieldProtectFromMagic.esp TrainAndStudy.esp TheCleaner.esp No Enchant Restrictions.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp LeftHandRings.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Attack Speed Fix.esp TKDodge.esp Customizable Camera.esp Ish's Respec Mod.esp 192 c0 Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp 193 c1 SkyrimTrashCans.esp 194 c2 3DNPC.esp 195 c3 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp 196 c4 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp 197 c5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 198 c6 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 199 c7 Starting Spell Choice.esp 200 c8 Starting Spell Choice - Life Another Life Patch.esp 201 c9 Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life.esp 202 ca Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 203 cb Arthmoor's Skyrim Villages - All In One.esp 204 cc Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 205 cd RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 206 ce AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 207 cf AFT_iNPCFix.esp 208 d0 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 209 d1 AFT_NoDances.esp 210 d2 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 211 d3 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 212 d4 RND_GoToBed-Patch.esp 213 d5 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 214 d6 BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp 215 d7 BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp 216 d8 NonEssentialChildren.esp 217 d9 No Permanent Essentials Redux -- Legendary Edition.esp 218 da Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp 219 db No Permanent Essentials Redux -- Bring Out Your Dead Compatibility.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp 220 dc BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp 221 dd Race Scale Remover.esp 222 de SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 223 df SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 224 e0 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 225 e1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 226 e2 SLAnimLoader.esp 227 e3 AnubAnimObj.esp 228 e4 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 229 e5 FNISSexyMove.esp 230 e6 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 231 e7 FNIS.esp 232 e8 XPMSE.esp 233 e9 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 234 ea SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 235 eb SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp 236 ec RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 237 ed RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 238 ee RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 239 ef RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 240 f0 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 241 f1 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 242 f2 RSChildren - Complete.esp 243 f3 RSChildren.esp 244 f4 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 245 f5 RSChildren Playable.esp 246 f6 Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp 247 f7 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Grey Cloud Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 First, that list has not been sorted by LOOT. It is the same as the NMM list because it is the same load order. Second, far too many plug-ins for someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Third, 40 28 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp and 41 29 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp. Why both? Fourth, these two need Estrus Chaurus in order to work 48 30 EstrusChaurus.esp and 49 31 EstrusSpider.esp Sixth, Isn't this included in something else these days? 57 39 NIOVHH.esp Seventh, you have a boat load of mods adding a huge amount of content to your game Eighth, How many lighting, weather and sound mods do you need? Ninth, How many armour and weapon mods do you need? Tenth, Why do have mods for CBBE and UUNP? Eleventh. You seem to have as many patches as mods. It is a miracle that your game works at all. It must run like a three-legged tortoise. You could reduce that plug-in list by two-thirds and still have the same content on a game that worked properly. P.S. Keep this one 110 6e MoreBrains.esp ?
Psalam Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Spoiler 3 hours ago, Violence6884 said: @Psalam Out of curiosity I did what you suggest and the result was actually the same as simply exporting my LO off NM. I suppose the numbers next to the mods tell you something I don't know about, in any case here it is... Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp 8 8 Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 d SexLabAroused.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Assets.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 11 BeeingFemale.esm 18 12 RSkyrimChildren.esm 19 13 daymoyl.esm 20 14 hdtHighHeel.esm 21 15 Heels Sound.esm 22 16 HighResTexturePack01.esp 23 17 HighResTexturePack02.esp 24 18 HighResTexturePack03.esp 25 19 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 26 1a Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 27 1b SMIM-Merged-All.esp 28 1c Gildergreen Regrown.esp 29 1d Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 30 1e SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 31 1f Scent of Sex.esp 32 20 MagnoCumGaudio.esp 33 21 PuppetMaster.esp 34 22 HentaiCreatures.esp 35 23 SexLab More Creatures.esp 36 24 animal_mansion.esp 37 25 dc-untamed-000.esp 38 26 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 39 27 SexLab Extra Voices.esp 40 28 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 41 29 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 42 2a Blush When Aroused.esp 43 2b Blush When Aroused CE.esp 44 2c sr_FillHerUp.esp 45 2d sr_FillThemUp.esp 46 2e Devious Devices - Equip.esp 47 2f DeviouslyHelpless.esp 48 30 EstrusChaurus.esp 49 31 EstrusSpider.esp 50 32 SexlabDefeat.esp 51 33 mslDeviousCaptures.esp 52 34 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 53 35 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 54 36 SD Addons.esp 55 37 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 56 38 Deviously Enslaved.esp 57 39 NIOVHH.esp EquipableStockings.esp 58 3a ClothesA.esp Gantz Outfit.esp 17914liwu.esp [GFB]DOA5 Wedding dress.esp SweetPeaCustom.esp LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp Cre Sailor Moon costume CBBE HDT.esp chinaDressRavana (Daiemonic edit).esp Succubus_CBBEByNausicaa.esp bbd_sxs.esp [Melodic] Super Bodysuit.esp Latex Witch - Nokou.esp [COCO]ParagonShinbi_full.esp EvaCloth.esp Bowsette.esp Luxury Collection.esp DF_T20.esp DV Jeans.esp Helena Strikers Suit.esp SupertightTop.esp TheMage.esp Leifang AQUAPLUS Mashup.esp [GFB]Mature_vice.esp SisterSlave.esp S&D black temptation.esp dem BURLESQUE.esp FFX SEX LULU Armor.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp AionBard.esp Headcrab_BunnyOutfit.esp Hot Uniforms Maid.esp Nakrulz's Latex Corset.esp Jennes.esp Neo's Tina By Nausicaa.esp MagicianGirlsSet.esp DAZ3D Pumps and Stocking.esp Neo's Scouter Set.esp Young_Trap.esp TERAArmors.esp blessarmors.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp BazoongasWorkShop_AfterSchool.esp Sarah Halloween 2017.esp DEM BodyCollection.esp VindictusMixRobes.esp _ImoMegane.esp Dark Leere Armor.esp AssassinArmor.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp Tera-Bikini.esp Lucy.esp shoespack.esp Bob's Boots CBBE v8.0.esp Elewin Sunglasses.esp female maid2 smp.esp XXWidowmakerHH.esp Necromancer's Outfit.esp DEM Pantyhose SLE.esp KatwomanArmor.esp BBD Skimpy Assassin Outfit.esp Luxlucis.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp UUNPBlackCorset.esp Aradia Tri.esp SexyEveningDress.esp Kokoro Halloween.esp BBD_Nova.esp LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp N8KLittleCarmineDress.esp Dancing Shadow Rose.esp SpecialLeatherArmor.esp R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp [NINI] Death Lady.esp Halloween - Tina.esp NewmLongHeels.esp Azera Sorceress.esp Bless Weapons Collection.esp TeraSuccubusArmor.esp Bondage Straps.esp Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp KS Jewelry.esp Jersey Dress.esp PeroPeroGoma_Bodysuit.esp Pumps.esp BabyDolls.esp TERA Weapons.esp 59 3b Shimmer Heels.esp 60 3c BeastessLair.esp 61 3d ElysiumEstate.esp 62 3e buildablehouse.esp 63 3f LakeHaven.esp 64 40 mintylightningmod.esp 65 41 WondersofWeather.esp 66 42 Morning Fogs.esp 67 43 Supreme Fog.esp 68 44 Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp 69 45 Personalized Music v 6.0.esp 70 46 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 71 47 AOS.esp AOS2_SoS Patch.esp 72 48 FISS.esp 73 49 SkyUI.esp 74 4a UIExtensions.esp 75 4b Extended UI.esp 76 4c RaceMenu.esp 77 4d RaceMenuPlugin.esp 78 4e RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 79 4f RaceMenuMimic.esp 80 50 SOSRaceMenu.esp 81 51 JaxonzUtilities.esp 82 52 JaxonzValetSortFixes.esp 83 53 RealNames.esp 84 54 My Home Is Your Home.esp 85 55 Animation Objects - Merged.esp 86 56 Poser Hotkeys.esp 87 57 IAPoses Module.esp 88 58 dovahkiinrelax.esp 89 59 bm_SimpleAction.esp 90 5a Animations.esp 91 5b ShakeIt!.esp 92 5c ShakeItSomeMore!.esp 93 5d Emote.esp 94 5e PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 95 5f PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 96 60 Random Emotions.esp 97 61 GoToBed.esp 98 62 GoToBed - Hearthfire coffins fix.esp 99 63 HoamaiiSleepingBags.esp 100 64 VioLens.esp 101 65 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 102 66 goodbrother.esp 103 67 tcbm.esp 104 68 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 105 69 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 106 6a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 107 6b HearthfireMultiKid.esp 108 6c HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 109 6d sandboxcylinderheight.esp 110 6e MoreBrains.esp 111 6f Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp 112 70 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 113 71 Dead Body Collision.esp 114 72 HertVampireFixedDG.esp 115 73 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 116 74 Cosmetics6.esp stocking.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp KS Hairdo's.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Babette.esp Kai's Lipstick.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp HN66_NAILS4ALL_GauntletSupport1.esp 117 75 SlaveTats.esp 118 76 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 119 77 Skin Universalizer.esp 120 78 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp 121 79 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 122 7a hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 123 7b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 124 7c Immersive Weapons.esp 125 7d Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 126 7e WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 127 7f Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp 128 80 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp 129 81 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 130 82 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 131 83 Rapier and Dagger.esp 132 84 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 133 85 NewArmoury.esp 134 86 Animated Immersive Weaps.esp 135 87 Rapier&DaggerNA.esp 136 88 AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp 137 89 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 138 8a dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 139 8b dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 140 8c AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 141 8d AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 142 8e ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp 143 8f ISC CCF Patch.esp 144 90 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 145 91 ISC WAFR Patch.esp 146 92 DeadlyDragons.esp 147 93 DeadlyDragonsMNCPatch.esp 148 94 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 149 95 Convenient Horses.esp 150 96 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp 151 97 Draw!!.esp 152 98 Civil War Overhaul.esp 153 99 Immersive Patrols II.esp 154 9a DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 155 9b Animal Tweaks.esp 156 9c Rebirth Monster.esp 157 9d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 158 9e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 159 9f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp 160 a0 Animal Tweaks - SIC.esp 161 a1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 162 a2 WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp 163 a3 Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp 164 a4 Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp 165 a5 Rebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.esp 166 a6 Rebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp 167 a7 Rebirth Monster - Animal Tweaks Patch.esp 168 a8 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 169 a9 MoreNastyCritters.esp 170 aa BDIC.esp 171 ab SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 172 ac Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 173 ad Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp 174 ae Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp 175 af Vigor - Torso Bandage.esp 176 b0 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 177 b1 Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp 178 b2 Realistic AI Detection 2 - High Interior, High Exterior.esp 179 b3 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 180 b4 Summermyst - TrueWeapons.esp 181 b5 Mortal Enemies.esp 182 b6 Mortal Enemies - AT Patch.esp 183 b7 Mortal Enemies - SIC.esp 184 b8 Mortal Enemies - SIC DLC2.esp 185 b9 Vigor - Movement Tweaks.esp 186 ba Backup Movement Speed Reduction.esp 187 bb RealisticMovementSpeedReduction.esp 188 bc attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp 189 bd No Sidestepping.esp 190 be AddItemMenuLE.esp 191 bf QoL2.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp AMatterOfTime.esp ShieldProtectFromMagic.esp TrainAndStudy.esp TheCleaner.esp No Enchant Restrictions.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp LeftHandRings.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Attack Speed Fix.esp TKDodge.esp Customizable Camera.esp Ish's Respec Mod.esp 192 c0 Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp 193 c1 SkyrimTrashCans.esp 194 c2 3DNPC.esp 195 c3 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp 196 c4 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp 197 c5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 198 c6 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 199 c7 Starting Spell Choice.esp 200 c8 Starting Spell Choice - Life Another Life Patch.esp 201 c9 Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life.esp 202 ca Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 203 cb Arthmoor's Skyrim Villages - All In One.esp 204 cc Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 205 cd RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 206 ce AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 207 cf AFT_iNPCFix.esp 208 d0 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 209 d1 AFT_NoDances.esp 210 d2 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 211 d3 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 212 d4 RND_GoToBed-Patch.esp 213 d5 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 214 d6 BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp 215 d7 BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp 216 d8 NonEssentialChildren.esp 217 d9 No Permanent Essentials Redux -- Legendary Edition.esp 218 da Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp 219 db No Permanent Essentials Redux -- Bring Out Your Dead Compatibility.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp 220 dc BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp 221 dd Race Scale Remover.esp 222 de SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 223 df SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 224 e0 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 225 e1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 226 e2 SLAnimLoader.esp 227 e3 AnubAnimObj.esp 228 e4 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 229 e5 FNISSexyMove.esp 230 e6 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 231 e7 FNIS.esp 232 e8 XPMSE.esp 233 e9 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 234 ea SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 235 eb SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp 236 ec RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 237 ed RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 238 ee RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 239 ef RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 240 f0 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 241 f1 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 242 f2 RSChildren - Complete.esp 243 f3 RSChildren.esp 244 f4 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 245 f5 RSChildren Playable.esp 246 f6 Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp 247 f7 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Please listen to Grey Cloud, he knows whereof he speaks. Why LOOT? As my blog says, two reasons. First, the one to which Grey Cloud already alluded. My expectation is that if you get the load order from LOOT you will take a moment and run LOOT. I have seen a lot of problems solved simply by running LOOT and getting your load order in a reasonable sequence. Second, is the the reason you mentioned. Notice how Grey Cloud could easily point you to the mods to which he referred by giving you their number in the load order. The first number is decimal and the second is hexadecimal. I do a similar thing by asking people to post the text from the top half of FNIS. First, it should make them run FNIS and second there is a lot of useful "debug" information to be had there.
Violence6884 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Please listen to Grey Cloud, he knows whereof he speaks. Why LOOT? As my blog says, two reasons. First, the one to which Grey Cloud already alluded. Notice how Grey Cloud could easily point you to the mods to which he referred by giving you their number in the load order. I must be blind, because I see no reply from no "Grey Cloud", and no reply concerning my load order in particular. After I presented my LO in the fashion you suggested, I only see this reply of yours. In any case I... Complied ;3 What else may I provide that would help? Edit - For some reason Grey Cloud's posts where hidden. But I've never chosen to ignore that person as far as I remember. Odd. Taking a look now.
Violence6884 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: First, that list has not been sorted by LOOT. It is the same as the NMM list because it is the same load order. - Naturally. It is not even sorted by NMM(Only initially), it is sorted by me because some of the stuff there were being put in the wrong place causing minor issues. For example both LOOT and NMM insist RealisticWaterTwo should not be near the end, but they are wrong. Quote Second, far too many plug in for someone who doesn't know what they are doing. - And yet, my game so far has been fine. I've had some issues but eventually resolve all of them(Like missing textures on some creature genitals lately). Except this one, I have no idea why this current issue is happening and I've never dealt with it before, with the exact same LO and set up. Hmm, not exactly the same but then again I did remove the couple of mods I added the last few days in hope it was one of them(Radiant Prostitution, TDF Aggressive and Skooma I believe). Issue persisted even after cleanly removing these mods, cleaning the file, and starting a new game. I assume it was none of those mods unless you tell me otherwise. Quote Third, 40 28 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp and 41 29 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp. Why both? - Because according to their description, or what I understand of it not being a native English speaker, one offers the option to prostitute NPCs to other NPCs, the other does not. And the one which does, doesn't come in separate versions, so it was unavoidable to have them both. Quote Fourth, these two need Estrus Chaurus in order to work 48 30 EstrusChaurus.esp and 49 31 EstrusSpider.esp - The reason you don't see the original is because you don't need the actual ESP. Both these mods work 100% just the way I have them. Quote Sixth, Isn't this included in something else these days? 57 39 NIOVHH.esp - Not to the best of my knowledge. What are you referring to? I am all ears. Quote Seventh, you have a boat load of mods adding a huge amount of content to your game - And?... It works. Quote Eighth, How many lighting, weather and sound mods do you need? - Why is that of any concern, with all due respect? Those are harmless, always had them in. Admittedly some overwrite others, which I then remove at my leisure, a process that has never caused me any issue due to the nature of those mods. FYI, those sound mods are meant to work together, their FOMOD even provides the necessary files for that. Quote Ninth, How many armour and weapon mods do you need? - As many as I want. Why is that of any concern? Again, with respect. I am a fashion whore, what of it? :3 Quote Tenth, Why do have mods for CBBE and UUNP? - That's because there's not always a full conversion to CBBE, so the original is required for the conversion to work. The original retains its name, so there you go. Quote Eleventh. You seem to have as many patches as mods. - When I see an up to date patch for an up to date mod so it can work better with another up to date mod which I have, I do get that patch. As long as its changes are reasonable to the extend that I, or orthers using it, can tell. If you noticed something that is proven to cause issues please point it out and I will remove that patch, if I am having those issues. Quote It is a miracle that your game works at all. It must run like a three legged tortoise. You could reduce that plug in list by two thirds and still have the same content on a game that worked properly. - Not a miracle at all, I've seen worse. And no, it is quite steady and very, very playable. If you want I can take a stroll in WhiteRun and record it, and you can tell me if what you see runs terribly. And no, I don't want to reduce that list unless it is necessary to fix the issue I am having, to which so far, nothing points. And no, it would not be the same content. It's all in the details. It would be admittedly similar, but not the same. Also it does work properly, except for this issue I describe in my OP. Quote P.S. Keep this one 110 6e MoreBrains ? - Are you being condescending? There's no need for that. If there's something wrong with that particular mod, let me know though. PS : As I explained to GenioMaestro, I found out that submitting via SD+ to any creature affected by this issue, fixes it and it remains fine even if I use Safe Word to be released. Perhaps this information somehow helps?
GenioMaestro Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Have you make a test in a NEW GAME??? Sometimes the savegame go corrupt and give stupid problems like that. If you NOT have the problem in a NEW GAME can be a problem in the savegame. Try clean it with ReSaver or load a savegame from 1 or 2 weeks ago whitout the problem. If the problem persist in a NEW GAME must be a mod problem. You have a lot of creatures mod and a lot of patches. Some mod must need another compatibity patch or need a specific load order. Disable mod's and make test in a NEW GAME until locate the problematic mod.
Violence6884 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Have you make a test in a NEW GAME??? Indeed. Quote If the problem persist in a NEW GAME must be a mod problem. You have a lot of creatures mod and a lot of patches. Some mod must need another compatibity patch or need a specific load order. Disable mod's and make test in a NEW GAME until locate the problematic mod. My set up has remained the same for at least a month, during which I did not have this issue. Recently I added a couple of mods, so one of the things I tried was removing those, cleaning ETC, and trying a new game as well. The problem persisted, so I assume it was not any of those new mods. If it was any of the older mods, I'd have encountered the issue before for sure, on at least one of my characters. However, if NOONE has ANY other thoughts on this very specific issue, it was my intent to do exactly as you say. I would like to first exhaust all other possibilities though, since I have such an extensive set up. If it helps, I found out that getting voluntarily enslaved via SD+ by any creature that has this problem, fixes it, even if after I use the Safe Word and get released. I don't plan to get enslaved by each and every creature that has this problem though, there must be a better way to solve this.
Grey Cloud Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Violence6884 said: - And yet, my game so far has been fine. I've had some issues but eventually resolve all of them(Like missing textures on some creature genitals lately). Except this one, I have no idea why this current issue is happening and I've never dealt with it before, with the exact same LO and set up. Hmm, not exactly the same but then again I did remove the couple of mods I added the last few days in hope it was one of them(Radiant Prostitution, TDF Aggressive and Skooma I believe). Issue persisted even after cleanly removing these mods, cleaning the file, and starting a new game. I assume it was none of those mods unless you tell me otherwise. That proves me correct. First you contradict yourself by saying "my game so far has been fine" and then immediately follow that with "I've had some issues but eventually resolve all of them" all of which suggests to me that you are having multiple problems because of, among other things, your load order.
Grey Cloud Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Violence6884 said: The reason you don't see the original is because you don't need the actual ESP. Both these mods work 100% just the way I have them. I know, I use them myself but I just have the esp deactivated rather than removed. You are the only person I have ever come across who uses NMM to sort their mods. If NIOVHH is NetImmerse High Heels then I think I'm correct. Try google. I don't use NIOVHH but I have high heels so something must be doing it. The point I was trying to make in Seventh, Eighth and Ninth was about use of resources. It doesn't matter how wing-ding your PC is, Skyrim can only do so much. 2 hours ago, Violence6884 said: - When I see an up to date patch for an up to date mod so it can work better with another up to date mod which I have, I do get that patch. As long as its changes are reasonable to the extend that I, or orthers using it, can tell. If you noticed something that is proven to cause issues please point it out and I will remove that patch, if I am having those issues. That is bullshit. If a mod is constantly needing patches then, as a rule of thumb, there is something wrong with that mod. I've got about 200-220 plug-ins at the moment and if I've got more than 5 patches I would be very surprised. You stick with your way of doing things and continue having problems. I'll stick with my way and do without the problems.
Violence6884 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: That proves me correct. This is not a contradiction - Only if you want to argue semantics and take the sentence apart in order to make an invalid point that suits your rhetoric. Let me be clearer just for you then, once more; My game is absolutely fine, if it weren't for this strange issue I'm facing now, about which you have offered ZERO feed back.
Violence6884 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 18 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: ...Deactivated rather than removed. - Yay for you. Quote You are the only person I have ever come across who uses NMM to sort their mods. - Ehh... Kk. Quote I don't use NIOVHH but I have high heels so something must be doing it. - Are you aware there are heels that work with the one, but not the other? And that having both causes zero issues? Quote The point I was trying to make in Seventh, Eighth and Ninth was about use of resources. Skyrim can only do so much. - I have that in mind. So far it seems to be doing as much as I want it to do. Again, except this issue which just surfaced. Agaiiiin about which you have offered ZERO insight or help, in a discussion where I ask for help specifically about that. Quote If a mod is constantly needing patches then, as a rule of thumb, there is something wrong with that mod. - What's BS is the way you're talking to me when I'm being polite, offering no help except vitriolic comments of low quality and dubious base. For someone touted as an expert, a lot of small things seem to elude you and you appear to be fixated on irrelevant and cynical criticism that no one asked or warranted for. Instead of arguing something just as irrelevant, I'd suggest(And you may go ahead and ignore the suggestion as I'm sure you will) that you look up those patches I am using and decide for your self how necessary they are. You can definitely not include them, I've tried that too, but at least on my end they do help stream line things just as they are supposed to do. Some are rendered obsolete by newer versions of mods of course, whose authors proceed to include said patches or simply address the issue the patches were made to address... In such cases, I remove them as soon as I find out. There's nothing unreasonable about this. Quote You stick with your way of doing things and continue having problems. I'll stick with my way and do without the problems. - I have no way of doings things, if I was so set in my ways I'd not be asking for help, nor ignoring your childish behaviour in an effort to distill some practical information regarding the matter at hand.... Which is impossible because you're being, quite honestly, an ass. Without provocation, without reason and without offering any help. So let me just quote "Good shit, thanks and don't talk to me again". LL might have somehow gotten your messages to originally not show on my end, which is why I missed them before Psalam pointed them out, but now I'll just go ahead and put you on ignore my self. It's healthier.
Psalam Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 So let me try to cut through some of the emotional overlay and get back to the issue. To clarify let me give you an example of what it sounds like you're experiencing. You walk up to the cow next to the Greymane home in Whiterun and put your cursor over it and it shows nothing. However, if it's arousal level is high enough it might attack you for sex or, alternatively, if you hit it with a sword it tries to run away. If that is right let me try a wilderness example. You can walk up to a sabre cat but your cursor doesn't show the cat as being there. Does it attack? Will it do a sex attack if it's arousal is high enough?
Violence6884 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Psalam said: So let me try to cut through some of the emotional overlay and get back to the issue. Yes please! I walk up to a sabre cat, cross hair doesn't show the cat as you said, but otherwise it works absolutely fine. It attacks, fights back, it will attempt to sexually assault me if arousal is enough, I can select it in `, I can damage it and its health bar will show normally and it interacts fine with all other NPCs. All its animations play properly, and it will idle and display its normal AI behaviour as it always has. In essence the only thing that is wrong, is that my cursor as you said, shows nothing. Even so, Perks that require interaction(Let's say Ordinator's "Speak With Animals" which brings up a message box to tame it) work fine as well. And recently it was pointed out to me that if I get enslaved by any means via SD+, by said sabre cat in this example, the problem just goes away. Permanently, even after I release my self manually. IE, it shows on my cursor normally. If you want me, I can also edit this reply to include every single thing I've tried so far to fix this without voluntarily getting enslaved by half the creatures in Skyrim... Which is not a fix at all, for all practical purposes.
Psalam Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 I agree that being enslaved by everything is NOT an acceptable answer. Yes, a list of everything you've tried would be helpful. If you have one a papyrus log MIGHT show something (I doubt it but I admit my curiosity has gotten the better of me now).
Violence6884 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Psalam said: Yes, a list of everything you've tried would be helpful. If you have one a papyrus log MIGHT show something (I doubt it but I admit my curiosity has gotten the better of me now). In no particular order, and in various combinations; - Cleanly uninstalling any mods I installed the last few days(Prior to which I hadn't installed any for quite a while and I did not have this issue) - Cleaning my Save - Starting a new game - Disabling/Enabling/Resetting the NPC - Changing cells - Loading older Saves - Checking FNIS, also for inconsistencies(You never know) - Checking DSR patcher(As above) - Disabling mods that alter or add dialogues - Tried an UnBlocker(It detected nothing blocked) from Nexus - Tried to fix it via "Animations"'s MCM's trouble shooting option, also tried disabling this mod(Even though I keep it turned off except in very particular cases) - Checked to see if I am wearing any items that would prohibit interaction - I read that having Sneak Tools installed can cause this... I don't use that mod - I made sure it's not some supposed NPC limit by spawning quite a few NPCs and checking if I could still talk to every NPC in WhiteRun(I could, so it's not some sort of limit) - I tamed one of the creatures and took it with me to another cell to see if it would work after releasing it(That's through Ordinator's Perks) I think I also tried to make one of the creatures with this issue a follower via AFT, I should do that again since I don't remember if that had any effect on the issue. Edit - I should also mention that if I kill a creature, like that sabre cat from the example before, its corpse shows on my cursor normally and I can loot it.
Psalam Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Spoiler 18 minutes ago, Violence6884 said: In no particular order, and in various combinations; - Cleanly uninstalling any mods I installed the last few days(Prior to which I hadn't installed any for quite a while and I did not have this issue) - Cleaning my Save - Starting a new game - Disabling/Enabling/Resetting the NPC - Changing cells - Loading older Saves - Checking FNIS, also for inconsistencies(You never know) - Checking DSR patcher(As above) - Disabling mods that alter or add dialogues - Tried an UnBlocker(It detected nothing blocked) from Nexus - Tried to fix it via "Animations"'s MCM's trouble shooting option, also tried disabling this mod(Even though I keep it turned off except in very particular cases) - Checked to see if I am wearing any items that would prohibit interaction - I read that having Sneak Tools installed can cause this... I don't use that mod - I made sure it's not some supposed NPC limit by spawning quite a few NPCs and checking if I could still talk to every NPC in WhiteRun(I could, so it's not some sort of limit) - I tamed one of the creatures and took it with me to another cell to see if it would work after releasing it(That's through Ordinator's Perks) I think I also tried to make one of the creatures with this issue a follower via AFT, I should do that again since I don't remember if that had any effect on the issue. Edit - I should also mention that if I kill a creature, like that sabre cat from the example before, its corpse shows on my cursor normally and I can loot it. So, it sounds like you are selectively "blind" to some creatures (with the vanilla cursor). It only impacts creatures (no NPCs). The game recognizes in all other ways that they are there (they react to your presence, you can kill them, and when the they are a corpse instead of a creature they can be looted). That begs the question, "could you pickpocket them?" I don't know what specific creatures you can't "see" but if giants, for instance, are on the list you could see if they can be pickpocketed. That's really beside the point. Your description sounds more like an interface issue than a creature issue. As I've thought about this I realized I may be overthinking it. If it's possible go up to one of those creatures without casting a spell or using a power, go into the console and see what the last mod was that worked on it. If it's not too hard try to do it with three or four so we can see if there is a pattern to it.
onesumgame Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 8:48 AM, Violence6884 said: Hey. All of a sudden various creatures lost their description when I hover my cross hair over them, no name, no prompts come up... Ordinator's pop up for "Wild Companion" being an exception. I just can't activate them in any way. In the console I can target them just fine. Google-Fu revealed that most people who had this(Although with named friendly NPCs) either had Sneak Tools installed(And wearing some mask) or a particular mod called "Animations" was blocking the NPCs. I made sure none of these are true in my case. It was suggested somewhere it could be an issue with simply too many NPCs in one cell, however considering where I am and how many NPCs are around me, this can't be the case. Any help would be appreciated! -.-' Edit - I should add that for all other intents and purposes all creatures work 100%, their AI is working(I attacked and they behave as expected), they can initiate sex scenes and so on. I had this issue when I upgraded to the SLAL version of MNC. I probably still have the issue but it doesn't break anything so I'm fine with it. Although nothing shows in your cross hair can you still get an arousal reading when you press the N key?
GenioMaestro Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Violence6884 said: Might as well get to it. BRB to edit this with my findings ;3 For confirm that onesumgame say i have exactily the same issue but that not give me any problem in game. Spoiler This is my cow in whiterun and as you can see i not have the name "Cow" or the message for interact with it but the rest of the things all works as expected. The problem can be related to MNC or Creature Framework, must make more test for confirm it, but i think is a minimal problem and i simply ignore it.
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