twsnider1138 Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 @Laura I just finished the main story and read your note. Thank you for sharing what you did and I’m sorry for complaining about not being able to kill Sloane earlier. I won’t lie that being able to shank her in the back when I could wasn’t incredibly satisfying though. Thank you for this fun little mod. also, just a technical note, finishing Gemme’s vision removed pretty much everything I was equipped with when I went in, including 35,000 worth of gold. Not sure if this happened to anybody else but maybe a warning on the tablet to store your gear before clicking? 1
Lenwd Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 5 hours ago, threp said: Check your version of Fus. If it is the right one, try sticking it at the end of your load order. That fixed that problem for me. I still have the same problem. Fus fixxed some dialogue issues, but I still can't get my bounds to be visible. When a NPC equips bounds on me, this is what happens https://gyazo.com/62370b51ab4c342b042ca7ee2e513df6 However if I equip them myself, they are visible https://gyazo.com/894bf74c67223c7af12b18f43b135378 It even gets weirder when some mods that the one that equips bounds in you when you open a door woork perfectly fine but this doesn't.
twsnider1138 Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 And on another technical note, I’m suddenly noticing that some of the locations are now showing up in German when I try to move to another cell. For example, Lod’s house is now coming up as Lod’s Haus or Potemas Tomb is coming up as Potema’s Katakomben. ?
CaptainJ03 Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 9 hours ago, Lenwd said: I still have the same problem. Fus fixxed some dialogue issues, but I still can't get my bounds to be visible. Do you have any other mods that change the behaviour of DDs? Devious Lore is okay, what about Unforgiving Devices? Anyone played Laura with that? The only issue I had in my playthrough of 3.43 was with the prisoner chains when Sloane was in the shop, but that's an old glitch. 3 hours ago, twsnider1138 said: And on another technical note, I’m suddenly noticing that some of the locations are now showing up in German when I try to move to another cell. For example, Lod’s house is now coming up as Lod’s Haus or Potemas Tomb is coming up as Potema’s Katakomben. ? As Laura (the mod author) is dutch, it's definitely not from this mod. Go to one of those locations, open the console and click on the loading door, this should tell you which mod made the last changes to it. 3
Tseverin Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 Hello. I'm on SSE. I've had this mod in my load order for a while and I've never played out any of the quests on this until now. Previously, I have used the shop as a utility and aesthetics. On "A Strange Rock": I go to return the thotium to Laura and she's not taking it. I've looked through the thread and haven't seen a solution that fits. Any suggestions? Apologies if there is a big glaring sign over a possible fix I might have skipped over. Maybe I need to wait a little bit...?
Tseverin Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Tseverin said: Hello. I'm on SSE. I've had this mod in my load order for a while and I've never played out any of the quests on this until now. Previously, I have used the shop as a utility and aesthetics. On "A Strange Rock": I go to return the thotium to Laura and she's not taking it. I've looked through the thread and haven't seen a solution that fits. Any suggestions? Apologies if there is a big glaring sign over a possible fix I might have skipped over. Maybe I need to wait a little bit...? Because this is a new game, I'll go back to a previous save before I took the quest and get some vanilla stuff out of the way. Still open to suggestions.
Miauzi Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 Vor 9 Minuten sagte Tseverin: Da es sich um ein neues Spiel handelt, gehe ich zu einem früheren Speicherstand zurück, bevor ich die Quest angenommen habe, und hole ein paar einfache Dinge aus dem Weg. Immer noch offen für Vorschläge. Does Katharina actually “undress” in the store? The correct quest sequence is important - some players run straight to the shop immediately after being locked up... without first stopping by the priestess in the temple - so the necessary conversation option in the shop cannot be triggered. Ask: Do the simple quests - like locking yourself in the chastity belt - work without any problems? 1
CaptainJ03 Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Tseverin said: On "A Strange Rock": I go to return the thotium to Laura and she's not taking it. Of course not. Your Quest Journal tells you to give it to Katarina. If you didn't visit Sona on your way back, Katarina will tell you to go to the temple first. 2
Lenwd Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 7 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said: Do you have any other mods that change the behaviour of DDs? Devious Lore is okay, what about Unforgiving Devices? Anyone played Laura with that? The only issue I had in my playthrough of 3.43 was with the prisoner chains when Sloane was in the shop, but that's an old glitch. As Laura (the mod author) is dutch, it's definitely not from this mod. Go to one of those locations, open the console and click on the loading door, this should tell you which mod made the last changes to it. Most of my mod list is from here, but again, it only happens with Laura's interactions. Other mods that have NPCs tying me up or undressing me work perfectly fine.
CaptainJ03 Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 4 hours ago, Lenwd said: Most of my mod list is from here, but again, it only happens with Laura's interactions. Other mods that have NPCs tying me up or undressing me work perfectly fine. (link to Devious Skyrim 2.0 thread) Oh dear, did you ever even tried your hand at debugging? "Other mods" isn't helpful at all. What if i tell you that others users don't have these problems? Would that solve yours? No? Thought so. Which game version are you on - LE, SE or AE? Where's your Load order? Can you see at least the ground model of the items, either in the shop dialogue or Add Item Menu? Which mod manager do you use? Does that stupid thing actually know where the BS output has to go? That Devious Skyrim thread you're referring to is old and no longer maintained. There are mods in the list that have been taken down since, or haven't seen neither an update nor the mod author in years. Half of the mods further to the bottom of the list aren't even compatible to each other. Oh, and before I go to bed: Did you enable all four EPSs of DD 5.2? Vortex happily ticks only one and leaves you with a useless install if you don't kick it in the shins. 2
Lenwd Posted January 6, 2024 Posted January 6, 2024 5 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said: Oh dear, did you ever even tried your hand at debugging? "Other mods" isn't helpful at all. What if i tell you that others users don't have these problems? Would that solve yours? No? Thought so. Which game version are you on - LE, SE or AE? Where's your Load order? Can you see at least the ground model of the items, either in the shop dialogue or Add Item Menu? Which mod manager do you use? Does that stupid thing actually know where the BS output has to go? That Devious Skyrim thread you're referring to is old and no longer maintained. There are mods in the list that have been taken down since, or haven't seen neither an update nor the mod author in years. Half of the mods further to the bottom of the list aren't even compatible to each other. Oh, and before I go to bed: Did you enable all four EPSs of DD 5.2? Vortex happily ticks only one and leaves you with a useless install if you don't kick it in the shins. I am playing on LE, I am using vortex and my current load order is: Spoiler DLCs Zaz Sexlab SkyUI Sexlab Aroused DDa DDi DDe DDc DDl Deviously Accesible DR DCL Devously Pink Devious Followers Devious Devices Equip Devious Carriages Laura Bondage Shop HDT High Heel Treasure Hunter Whore Prison Overhaul Public Whore SLUTS Ballet Boots Simple slavery Angrim Apprentice Submissive Lola Naked defeat KS Hairdo The facility Shiny catsuits FNIS DD NPC Fixup SexLabDisparity Key Replacer Devious Sounds Devious Body Alteration Mimic Clothin DD Enchanted Chests dcc-dm2 petcollar DeviousInterests SSR Comments DD Helpers Devious Lore Hair Patch SlaveTats RaceMenu XPMSE Alternate start Moredevious start Deviously Cursed loot. All plugins are enabled and I can see the items around the shop and even equip them on myself, I just don't see them when the stone equip those.
Miauzi Posted January 6, 2024 Posted January 6, 2024 Vor 58 Minuten sagte Lenwd: Ich spiele auf LE, verwende Vortex und meine aktuelle Ladereihenfolge ist: Verborgene Inhalte aufdecken DLCs Zaz Sexlab SkyUI Sexlab Aroused DDa DDi DDe DDc DDl Deviously Accesible DR DCL Devously Pink Devious Followers Devious Devices Equip Devious Carriages Laura Bondage Shop HDT High Heel Treasure Hunter Whore Prison Overhaul Public Whore SLUTS Ballet Boots Simple slavery Angrim Apprentice Submissive Lola Naked defeat KS Hairdo The facility Shiny catsuits FNIS DD NPC Fixup SexLabDisparity Key Replacer Devious Sounds Devious Body Alteration Mimic Clothin DD Enchanted Chests dcc-dm2 petcollar DeviousInterests SSR Comments DD Helpers Devious Lore Hair Patch SlaveTats RaceMenu XPMSE Alternate start Moredevious start Deviously Cursed loot. Alle Plugins sind aktiviert und ich kann die Gegenstände im Shop sehen und sie sogar selbst ausrüsten. Ich sehe sie nur nicht, wenn der Stein sie ausrüstet. @CaptainJ03 wrote this post a few weeks ago for another user - who obviously had the same problem as you. The bondage set activated by the stone should then look like this. Spoiler If it is not equipped - the cause may be the following: a) something (another mod that uses DD) is blocking equipping b) the parts to equip it don't exist - usually a problem with bodyslide 1
Laura Posted January 6, 2024 Author Posted January 6, 2024 On 1/4/2024 at 1:25 AM, SeraSylver said: Hey Laura, any chance you could make a anal plugs with the Pleaser and Teaser effects, and maybe make a gag similar to the Workout gag from Toys and Love? The one from Shout like a Virgin can force orgasms, but it would be cool to have a set of plugs, piercings and gag that have the Pleaser and Teaser effects. Don't think I'll add that. They don't make much sense to me and the current plugs work really well. On 1/4/2024 at 1:25 AM, SeraSylver said: Another idea I had was you could have an option for Laura tying you up, where you can ask her to tie you up in a full set of inescapable restraints, with a similar time frame to the chastity belt. It would be fun to get locked up in a belt, bra, collar, gag, blindfold, plugs, piercings, cuffs, and a yoke for a few days. It would also be cool if you could pay Laura to wear the full delivery set outside of the delivery jobs, maybe forgo the reward to keep them on? Just a few ideas. I get the appeal but that would lock the player out of playing most of the game. Kinky stuff is fun but I think it'll get old quick. Thanks for the suggestions though. On 1/4/2024 at 9:24 PM, twsnider1138 said: @Laura I just finished the main story and read your note. Thank you for sharing what you did and I’m sorry for complaining about not being able to kill Sloane earlier. I won’t lie that being able to shank her in the back when I could wasn’t incredibly satisfying though. Thank you for this fun little mod. ❤️ On 1/4/2024 at 9:24 PM, twsnider1138 said: also, just a technical note, finishing Gemme’s vision removed pretty much everything I was equipped with when I went in, including 35,000 worth of gold. Not sure if this happened to anybody else but maybe a warning on the tablet to store your gear before clicking? I'm not gonna add a warning because you're supposed to get it all back. ? Have you played through it multiple times? If you did, did it fail to return your stuff everytime? 2
CaptainJ03 Posted January 6, 2024 Posted January 6, 2024 14 hours ago, Lenwd said: I am playing on LE, I am using vortex and my current load order is: Reveal hidden contents DLCs Zaz Sexlab SkyUI Sexlab Aroused DDa DDi DDe DDc DDl Deviously Accesible DR DCL Devously Pink Devious Followers Devious Devices Equip Devious Carriages Laura Bondage Shop HDT High Heel Treasure Hunter Whore Prison Overhaul Public Whore SLUTS Ballet Boots Simple slavery Angrim Apprentice Submissive Lola Naked defeat KS Hairdo The facility Shiny catsuits FNIS DD NPC Fixup SexLabDisparity Key Replacer Devious Sounds Devious Body Alteration Mimic Clothin DD Enchanted Chests dcc-dm2 petcollar DeviousInterests SSR Comments DD Helpers Devious Lore Hair Patch SlaveTats RaceMenu XPMSE Alternate start Moredevious start Deviously Cursed loot. All plugins are enabled and I can see the items around the shop and even equip them on myself, I just don't see them when the stone equip those. Doesn't look too weird to me, and as others like DFC and DCL manage to bind you, so should this mod. Script lag might be an issue - ist there a mod in the list that really needs HDT High Heels? AFAIK that makes more stress on the Papyrus than necessary, modern heels just need racemenu or nioverride. One daft question, just to check the odd possibility: do you have only the current 5.x version of Devious Devices? Laura switched to that a while ago, and it applies different routines/ scripts to equip DDs than the 4.x version. Which errors (if any) appear in the Papyrus.log on an equip call? When did you last reboot your computer? I know this sounds more than stupid, but turning it off and on is just some kind of extended standby, that's not a reboot. As it seems that your LO is hand written: Vortex mods-tab, click Open - Open Game Application Data Folder and your current plugin load order is the file "plugins.txt". 1
Tseverin Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 (edited) On 1/5/2024 at 5:01 AM, CaptainJ03 said: Of course not. Your Quest Journal tells you to give it to Katarina. If you didn't visit Sona on your way back, Katarina will tell you to go to the temple first. That's what happens when you play half asleep. Wait a minute, I had to go to 3 different npcs and the quest log specifically told me to return the thotium to Laura after that. Sorry, didn't realize I had to spell it out for you. Couldn't wait to be snarky, could ya? Edited January 7, 2024 by Tseverin
Miauzi Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 Vor 2 Stunden sagte Tseverin: Das passiert, wenn man im Halbschlaf spielt. Moment mal, ich musste zu drei verschiedenen NPCs und im Questprotokoll wurde mir ausdrücklich gesagt, ich solle das Thotium danach an Laura zurückgeben. Entschuldigung, ich wusste nicht, dass ich es für Sie buchstabieren muss. Konnten es kaum erwarten, bissig zu sein, oder? So... playing while half asleep - tzzz Of course, you also miss the fact that there is a blog story that contains a solution for this quest, for example 2
SeraSylver Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 16 hours ago, Laura said: Don't think I'll add that. They don't make much sense to me and the current plugs work really well. I get the appeal but that would lock the player out of playing most of the game. Kinky stuff is fun but I think it'll get old quick. Thanks for the suggestions though. ❤️ I'm not gonna add a warning because you're supposed to get it all back. ? Have you played through it multiple times? If you did, did it fail to return your stuff everytime? Would you be able to expand on the paid chastity quest to volunteer for the chastity bra as well? Or maybe add a dialogue option when talking to NPCs to try to persuade them to try bondage? I'm not a modder, but it would be really cool if you could try to persuade people during the quest. It would also be cool if you were able to implement something similar to the rubber commercial quest for the dollmaker.
CaptainJ03 Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 9 hours ago, Tseverin said: That's what happens when you play half asleep. Then don't. The storyline of this mod is really complicated, and contrary to this tiny quest, most of them don't use questmarkers, and some are oldschool riddles, that need a lot of thinking and trying. 9 hours ago, Tseverin said: Wait a minute, I had to go to 3 different npcs and the quest log specifically told me to return the thotium to Laura after that. Sorry, didn't realize I had to spell it out for you. And now you're lying. Sona tells you, the Journal states it, and there's even a questmarker. Spoiler Sona in the temple: Quest Journal: Questmarker on Kata: 9 hours ago, Tseverin said: Couldn't wait to be snarky, could ya? If you'd look at the caption below my avatar, it says: "Grumpy ole bugger" You don't get that title for being nice and helpful ? I don't understand why people always blame the mod author for their own inaptitude to read, be it the journal, what NPCs tell them or even the prerequisites for installing this mod. Fuz-Rho-What? Can't you make a non-DD version? Cannot find me own arse, but where's Hinde in Ivarsted? 3
valcon767 Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 7 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said: If you'd look at the caption below my avatar, it says: "Grumpy ole bugger" You don't get that title for being nice and helpful ? are you sure? i thought it was just a notice that you do not suffer fools much at all.? 1
twsnider1138 Posted January 10, 2024 Posted January 10, 2024 On 1/6/2024 at 8:52 AM, Laura said: i’m not gonna add a warning because you're supposed to get it all back. ? Have you played through it multiple times? If you did, did it fail to return your stuff everytime? No, this is the first time I noticed it happening. Last time I got this far in the story was an update or two ago where that flashback was basically the story end at the time. When I started the flashback, the only things that went in with me when I woke up as Gemme was my quest items, my gold, and the DD plugs/piercings I was wearing. When I came back out, I had all my gear back and my quest items. However my DD stuff and gold was gone. I also didn’t keep the special ring Gemme receives, but that made a bit of sense because Gemme received that and not me.
Lady Wintrish Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 I'm still on 16640. Is the SE 3.43 version compatible?
Putujoanos Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 Hello! I'm having a CTD when getting in the cell after talking to Laura to remove the Belt. Anyway around this? Is this a known issue? For what it's worth, I'm using the Masterstroke mod list. If there's anyway I can debug it let me know
SquatsAreLife Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 On 1/12/2024 at 6:12 AM, Lady Wintrish said: I'm still on 16640. Is the SE 3.43 version compatible? +1
SquatsAreLife Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 (edited) I play on SSE (16.640) with JK's Whitrun Outskirts. It conflicts where Laura's shop is. I don't even see any clipping. Has anyone made a patch an moved the shop? I wonder how difficult it is to move the shop myself. I found a good piece of land a bit farther south that would be perfect. I have rudimentary skills with SSedit and CK. Edit: Thanks to Miauzi I found the patch for JK's Whitrun Outskirts on aurreth page https://www.loverslab.com/profile/5984766-aurreth/?tab=node_filestabprofile_filesTab. He mentioned the patch in this thread a while ago. That I couldn't see the shop at all was my mistake, as the esp was somehow deactivated. I use JK's Whitrun Outskirts together with Whiterun Outskirts Market and together with Aurreth patch it feels like it is in the outer city and works well. Edited January 14, 2024 by SquatsAreLife Found Solution 3
Miauzi Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 Vor 22 Minuten sagte SquatsAreLife: Ich spiele auf SSE (16.640) mit Whitrun Outskirts von JK. Es gibt einen Konflikt, wo sich Lauras Laden befindet. Ich sehe nicht einmal einen Ausschnitt. Hat jemand einen Patch gemacht und den Laden umgezogen? Ich frage mich, wie schwierig es ist, den Laden selbst zu verlegen. Etwas weiter südlich habe ich ein gutes Stück Land gefunden, das perfekt wäre. Ich habe rudimentäre Kenntnisse mit SSedit und CK. As far as I know, yes... but I can't remember which page it's on in this thread. Be patient for a few days - there are users who know where this patch is.
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