Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Tokyoghoul67]

2 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

Is it the first quest with Dynane or the second?

It's the second quest... I initially ignored the one with the sister.

You were then certainly in the mine and then in prison... looking for her after she killed the bandit boss in prison.

Now go to the town's sawmill near the city gate (the one to Helgen)... at the sawmill there is a small lake (or rather "pond")

(the sawmill of the big lake in the north is NOT meant here!)

Now on the SOUTH bank -> go upstream... i.e. against the water current.

The girl is standing under a tree on the bank... you do NOT have to go to the small waterfall... but only to the place where the water flows down over a few stones.

Once again thank you!!!!!

[Miauzi]

Vor 4 Minuten sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Nochmals vielen Dank!!!!!

 

Found? Yes? ... Fine!

Finding this girl is really the hardest part of this quest... many users have already asked where to find her.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to take an acceptable photo (screenshot) that shows the area around where it was found.

And I didn't want to describe it too clearly in the story... because quite a few users see the bloody rags on the floor in front of the cell - but don't interact with them.

So the quest doesn't move forward "internally" and the search remains unsuccessful - because the girl only appears at the watercourse after touching the rags.

But no matter - they were able to solve the quest.

[Tokyoghoul67]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

 

Found? Yes? ... Fine!

Finding this girl is really the hardest part of this quest... many users have already asked where to find her.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to take an acceptable photo (screenshot) that shows the area around where it was found.

And I didn't want to describe it too clearly in the story... because quite a few users see the bloody rags on the floor in front of the cell - but don't interact with them.

So the quest doesn't move forward "internally" and the search remains unsuccessful - because the girl only appears at the watercourse after touching the rags.

But no matter - they were able to solve the quest.

No worries about the photo.... This quest has me intrigued so I can't stop playing it right now... Didn't like the bondage mods before this one... 

[CaptainJ03]

4 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

Didn't like the bondage mods before this one... 

Yes, this mod is a completely different league.

Most scenes are consensual, there's an actual story, and there's always a reason why you get tied up, not just some "you ran into yet another trap"

[Tokyoghoul67]

Well stuck again.... Been trying for 3 hours to find note #2 at Ivarstead looking for note #2 and trying to find clues on the girl with no luck. Did the same ting as before as far as reloading/restarting this quest... Am I supposed to wait for Laura????

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Nun, ich stecke wieder fest... Ich habe drei Stunden lang versucht, Notiz Nr. 2 in Ivarstead zu finden, habe nach Notiz Nr. 2 gesucht und Hinweise auf das Mädchen gefunden, ohne Erfolg. Habe beim Neuladen/Neustarten dieser Quest das Gleiche wie zuvor gemacht ... Soll ich auf Laura warten????

 

No - the next quest progress only triggers when all 3 notes have been found... then you find a barrel "downhill" with another note

 

 

[Tokyoghoul67]

2 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

No - the next quest progress only triggers when all 3 notes have been found... then you find a barrel "downhill" with another note

 

 

The only barrow down the hill that I found was in front of a house.... It didn't have any journal on it.... I read your blog but I still can't figure out where to look/go...   Well I found the table that it was sitting on alongside the river. After picking it up nothing happened. No "Quest" started and I and still have the  investigating Ivarstatt quest going....

Edited December 24, 2023 by Tokyoghoul67

[Miauzi]

Vor 49 Minuten sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Der einzige Hügelkarren, den ich unten am Hügel gefunden habe, stand vor einem Haus ... Da war kein Tagebuch drauf ... Ich habe Ihren Blog gelesen, weiß aber immer noch nicht, wo ich suchen/gehen soll. ..

 

The first note is in the guest room - I assume that's what they found.

The second note... lies under a bridge. Well - this town has two of them - one leads up to the monastery - the other goes south - the main route to Riften - it must be underneath (the bridge forms the town boundary)

The third note is on the northern shore of the lake... you have to walk for quite a long time - until you find both the small castle ruins and the waterfall in front of it (the lake flows from it).

Pay attention to the chair by the water... from the bridge near Ivarstadt to the chair there are a few empty beer bottles... basically a "breadcrumb" trail.

When you are at the chair on the river bank and have picked up the last note... turn your character so that he has the lake behind him... he is now facing north.

Now go up to the edge of the slope and very very carefully down the slope. The waterfall is on the right side.

You should now see several large boulders... there is also the barrel you are looking for with the next message - which will lead you to the small mining settlement... to meet Jade there.

There are ultimately three “stumbling blocks” in this quest before being captured.

a) the second note (diary page) under the bridge

b) the mash of jade in the barrel - which is in the middle of the slope

c) Find Jade itself OUTSIDE the small mining settlement

 

[Tokyoghoul67]

20 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

The first note is in the guest room - I assume that's what they found.

The second note... lies under a bridge. Well - this town has two of them - one leads up to the monastery - the other goes south - the main route to Riften - it must be underneath (the bridge forms the town boundary)

The third note is on the northern shore of the lake... you have to walk for quite a long time - until you find both the small castle ruins and the waterfall in front of it (the lake flows from it).

Pay attention to the chair by the water... from the bridge near Ivarstadt to the chair there are a few empty beer bottles... basically a "breadcrumb" trail.

When you are at the chair on the river bank and have picked up the last note... turn your character so that he has the lake behind him... he is now facing north.

Now go up to the edge of the slope and very very carefully down the slope. The waterfall is on the right side.

You should now see several large boulders... there is also the barrel you are looking for with the next message - which will lead you to the small mining settlement... to meet Jade there.

There are ultimately three “stumbling blocks” in this quest before being captured.

a) the second note (diary page) under the bridge

b) the mash of jade in the barrel - which is in the middle of the slope

c) Find Jade itself OUTSIDE the small mining settlement

 

Thank you and to be honest.... All of the quests should have quest markers in it... This is getting very frustrated for me...

[Miauzi]

Vor 12 Minuten sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Vielen Dank und um ehrlich zu sein ... Alle Quests sollten Questmarker enthalten ... Das frustriert mich sehr ...

 

The idea of quest markers... well I'm glad there aren't any in this mod.

I come from a generation of players myself - we didn't know anything like quest markers.

In "Skyrim" or "Fallout" I'm taken by the hand like this... the element of "searching" is so completely missing - which I think is a shame.

I don't think it's a bad thing that you sometimes have to search a little longer... and today there is the Internet with forums - you can ask for help there.

And Laura as an author sees it similarly - so far she has strictly refused all requests for such quest markers!

[Tokyoghoul67]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

 

The idea of quest markers... well I'm glad there aren't any in this mod.

I come from a generation of players myself - we didn't know anything like quest markers.

In "Skyrim" or "Fallout" I'm taken by the hand like this... the element of "searching" is so completely missing - which I think is a shame.

I don't think it's a bad thing that you sometimes have to search a little longer... and today there is the Internet with forums - you can ask for help there.

And Laura as an author sees it similarly - so far she has strictly refused all requests for such quest markers!

I understand where you are coming from and I do love this mod. Never in a million years would I have found that barrel without your help. I just think that for something as hard as that there should be at least a marker for that....

[IBAGadget]

2 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

I understand where you are coming from and I do love this mod. Never in a million years would I have found that barrel without your help. I just think that for something as hard as that there should be at least a marker for that....

Whatever you do, never, ever, play Myst: Riven.

 

You will lose your mind completely.

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

Thank you and to be honest.... All of the quests should have quest markers in it... This is getting very frustrated for me...

Are you playing the current version that's been up for ~2 weeks? Laura wrote in the changelog that she'd updated this quest and the hints on where to find the notes.

(I haven't, this quest arch takes too long to play it with every new character, so I have no ideas about the actual changes she made)

[Laura]

On 12/21/2023 at 3:47 PM, Viri1 said:

Liselle: "Now this looks like a job for me!"

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8 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

Thank you and to be honest.... All of the quests should have quest markers in it... This is getting very frustrated for me...

Are the searches too difficult/vague or are you just not a fan of searches?

[Laura]

On 12/23/2023 at 7:48 AM, CaptainJ03 said:

Yes, this mod is a completely different league.

Most scenes are consensual, there's an actual story, and there's always a reason why you get tied up, not just some "you ran into yet another trap"

❤️

[Tokyoghoul67]

6 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Whatever you do, never, ever, play Myst: Riven.

 

You will lose your mind completely.

I lost my mind years ago bud LOL!!!!

[Tetras66]

9 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

I understand where you are coming from and I do love this mod. Never in a million years would I have found that barrel without your help. I just think that for something as hard as that there should be at least a marker for that....

I recently wrote a quest that was inspired by Laura's quest and what I did, was add an optional objective where you can ask the quest giver for help and then you get a quest marker, so there's a pathway for both playstyles. But, I don't know if Laura would like that idea and it complicates the mod.

[Tokyoghoul67]

6 hours ago, Laura said:

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Are the searches too difficult/vague or are you just not a fan of searches?

I searched for over three hours for the third note and couldn't find it. I don't mind searching for things but for three plus hours??? Don't get me wrong, I love your mod and this story line, it just frustrated me a bit looking for this third note... Also, after reading the pages under the bridge I couldn't figure out where the second journal was located. After reading the blog I thought I had to head south along the road and up the mountains until I found it along a creek then look for a barrel up in the mountains by a waterfall. May have mis-interpreted his blog plus the journal. This is the reason why I was asking about markers... My apologies if I upset you in any way. Just got a little frustrated...

Edited December 24, 2023 by Tokyoghoul67

[Miauzi]

Vor 14 Minuten sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Ich habe über drei Stunden nach der dritten Note gesucht und sie nicht gefunden. Es macht mir nichts aus, nach Dingen zu suchen, aber mehr als drei Stunden lang??? Verstehen Sie mich nicht falsch, ich liebe Ihren Mod und diese Handlung, es hat mich nur ein wenig frustriert, nach dieser dritten Note zu suchen ...

 

The first time I played this quest - finding the first diary page was my main problem... the second I came across more by accident... and the third was due to the trail of mead bottles on the lake shore easiest to find.

The letter in the barrel... well, I actually needed help from the forum - but the hint is on the third diary page.

Probably, for some users (myself included), their own limited knowledge of English is an obstacle - being able to adequately understand the information on these pages... I had all the written information translated separately for my blog story.

[Tokyoghoul67]

3 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

The first time I played this quest - finding the first diary page was my main problem... the second I came across more by accident... and the third was due to the trail of mead bottles on the lake shore easiest to find.

The letter in the barrel... well, I actually needed help from the forum - but the hint is on the third diary page.

Probably, for some users (myself included), their own limited knowledge of English is an obstacle - being able to adequately understand the information on these pages... I had all the written information translated separately for my blog story.

The first page was easy for me. I asked the tavern owner and he said that she rented a room so I checked the rooms. The second one after reading the first one was easy also seeing that it stated that it was under the bridge. After that I could not understand where the other page(s) were and the barrel was located. I knew that it was by a waterfall but where exactly I did not know. Spent hours looking for it going up and down both coasts of the road... I really do like this mod but sometimes it frustrates me when I look for hours then have to post about it and then wait again for it. She did an awesome job with this....

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Minuten sagte Tokyoghoul67:

Die erste Seite fiel mir leicht. Ich fragte den Wirtshausbesitzer und er sagte, dass sie ein Zimmer gemietet hätte, also habe ich die Zimmer überprüft. Das zweite, nachdem ich das erste gelesen hatte, war leicht zu erkennen, da dort stand, dass es sich unter der Brücke befand. Danach konnte ich nicht verstehen, wo sich die andere(n) Seite(n) befanden und wo sich das Fass befand. Ich wusste, dass es an einem Wasserfall lag, aber wo genau, wusste ich nicht. Ich habe stundenlang danach gesucht und bin an beiden Küsten der Straße rauf und runter gefahren ... Ich mag diesen Mod wirklich, aber manchmal frustriert es mich, wenn ich stundenlang suche, dann darüber posten und dann wieder darauf warten muss. Das hat sie großartig gemacht....

 

The clue for the route from the second to the third diary page was on this second page... so it was clear that it could only be on the lakeshore.

Ultimately, the empty mead bottles made it clear which side of the lake to look for.

The crux of the matter was the barrel... I took the picture of the barrel from an angle - so that you could see the waterfall or the small castle.

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

The first page was easy for me. I asked the tavern owner and he said that she rented a room so I checked the rooms. The second one after reading the first one was easy also seeing that it stated that it was under the bridge. After that I could not understand where the other page(s) were and the barrel was located. I knew that it was by a waterfall but where exactly I did not know. Spent hours looking for it going up and down both coasts of the road... I really do like this mod but sometimes it frustrates me when I look for hours then have to post about it and then wait again for it. She did an awesome job with this....

As far as I remember, there's two pages in the inn (been a while since I played it), another under the bridge towards Honeystrand Cave, and then you need to walk along the shore towards Nilheim Towers (the small castle Miauzi refers to, translations of the locations are too odd to try back-translating). After you've found the stool with the 4th page, the barrel should appear downhill of the waterfall right before reaching Nilheim.

I don't recall how often I've written these instructions in the thread, too bad that the search function of this board is useless...

[Tokyoghoul67]

Ok.... At Laura's shop. No master, and she is not asking me to touch the thothium stone. After the cave I did two things. I A) killed both of the NPC's, went to the cave, killed the Troll, recharged and went to the store with the same results above. I also did not kill both NPC's, went to the cave, killed the Troll, recharged and went to the store with the same results above. Both times the master was following me from the cave to the store and did not show up in both cases inside the store. I waited twenty minutes each time and nothing happened. What did I do wrong this time????

[valcon767]

4 hours ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

 What did I do wrong this time????

 

umm probably just Skyrim being janky.

Master must go in shop with you for it to  progress.  what i would suggest doing is to walk close to shop, open console and select master

(so that his info is visible instead of having to type prid #) then when you go inside shop if he comes in fine, but if he does not just open

console and type "moveto player" (this is why you selected him in console earlier), which will move him beside you and allow the scene to play.

 

 

[Tokyoghoul67]

37 minutes ago, valcon767 said:

 

umm probably just Skyrim being janky.

Master must go in shop with you for it to  progress.  what i would suggest doing is to walk close to shop, open console and select master

(so that his info is visible instead of having to type prid #) then when you go inside shop if he comes in fine, but if he does not just open

console and type "moveto player" (this is why you selected him in console earlier), which will move him beside you and allow the scene to play.

 

 

Couldn't use the console commands so I used the matchmaker spell on him to lure him inside. When that happened the quest continued. Thak you for your help and making me think of a roundabout way of getting him inside!