Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Tetras66]

18 minutes ago, Kazuki_rin said:

Is this how the conversions should look like when first talking to laura? Because there's nothing new added from the mod other then the house

ScreenShot3.bmp 3.71 MB · 1 download

 

No, have you tried save and reload?

[aurreth]

Just to see what it would look like I gave Laura a makeover, using Apache hair and the High Poly head.

 

Shortened her hair because it's easier for her to fit under bondage items such as her gag or a hood.  Changing to the high poly head softened her features a bit, but I kept the scar (I assume Darius gave it to her, and she keeps it to remind herself.)  Her makeup was good, nice and subtle.

 

I also changed up her wardrobe.  A "relaxed" hobble dress and heels instead of the catsuit, because I thought she needed a bit of differentiation from Master (Captured Dreams), and she should look like her own woman, not a clone.

 

It's a simple ESP file if anyone wants it.  Requires High Poly Head.ESM and ApachiiHairFemales.ESM.  Probably everyone already has the second one.   

 

EDIT:  Moved to it's own thread to keep from derailing the real one:  https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/20315-lauras-bondage-shop-character-makeovers/

Edited December 17, 2021 by aurreth

[IBAGadget]

3 hours ago, aurreth said:

Just to see what it would look like I gave Laura a makeover, using Apache hair and the High Poly head.

 

Shortened her hair because it's easier for her to fit under bondage items such as her gag or a hood.  Changing to the high poly head softened her features a bit, but I kept the scar (I assume Darius gave it to her, and she keeps it to remind herself.)  Her makeup was good, nice and subtle.

 

I also changed up her wardrobe.  A "relaxed" hobble dress and heels instead of the catsuit, because I thought she needed a bit of differentiation from Master (Captured Dreams), and she should look like her own woman, not a clone.

 

It's a simple ESP file if anyone wants it.  Requires High Poly Head.ESM and ApachiiHairFemales.ESM.  Probably everyone already has the second one.   

 

Very nice. Would love to have this for my game.

 

Quick question though, as I do not have Apachii Sky Hair (Running KS Hairdos):

 

which version of Apachii do I need? 1.6 Full, or will just 1.5.1 (female only optional file) work.  Or do I need 1.6 in order to use 1.5.1?

Given that I currently have over 800 hairstyles in Racemenu to choose from (DCL adding in alternate versions of KS hairdos), is adding another 200 or so hairstyles going to crash my RM?

[aurreth]

47 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Very nice. Would love to have this for my game.

 

Quick question though, as I do not have Apachii Sky Hair (Running KS Hairdos):

 

which version of Apachii do I need? 1.6 Full, or will just 1.5.1 (female only optional file) work.  Or do I need 1.6 in order to use 1.5.1?

Given that I currently have over 800 hairstyles in Racemenu to choose from (DCL adding in alternate versions of KS hairdos), is adding another 200 or so hairstyles going to crash my RM?

 

Just the female ones, 1.5.1.  ApachiiHairFemales.ESM is from 1.5.1.  I tried using the KS ones first but there weren't any good short hair styles, nothing that said "I'm cutting my hair like this 'cause it is short, sassy and fits better under a bondage hood."

 

One thing I've noticed is that the slowed movement from the dress/shoes seems to mess with Lara's pathing.  I changed her clothes to the latex gown (hobble dress with no reduced movement) and stiletto heels and she goes back and forth between the counter and her chair correctly.  Since I don't want the added dependency, I'm gonna try something, basically clone out a "hobble" dress and the shoes I want, then strip the slowed movement out of them for Laura.  That should let her use the altered clothing without having to have DCL. 

 

Let me play with it a bit and I'll let you know.  Also Laura might object to the change, so maybe she'll chime in and tell me to knock it off  

[IBAGadget]

22 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

Just the female ones, 1.5.1.  ApachiiHairFemales.ESM is from 1.5.1.  I tried using the KS ones first but there weren't any good short hair styles, nothing that said "I'm cutting my hair like this 'cause it is short, sassy and fits better under a bondage hood."

 

 

Thank you for that. I downloaded both files just in case, but haven't installed anything yet. I'll toss the female one in my game and see how many hours I can 'waste' going to the salon

 

[Kazuki_rin]

9 hours ago, Tetras66 said:

 

No, have you tried save and reload?

I forgot to install sexlab from MCM i think that fixed it

[kohlteth]

1 hour ago, aurreth said:

 

Just the female ones, 1.5.1.  ApachiiHairFemales.ESM is from 1.5.1.  I tried using the KS ones first but there weren't any good short hair styles, nothing that said "I'm cutting my hair like this 'cause it is short, sassy and fits better under a bondage hood."

 

One thing I've noticed is that the slowed movement from the dress/shoes seems to mess with Lara's pathing.  I changed her clothes to the latex gown (hobble dress with no reduced movement) and stiletto heels and she goes back and forth between the counter and her chair correctly.  Since I don't want the added dependency, I'm gonna try something, basically clone out a "hobble" dress and the shoes I want, then strip the slowed movement out of them for Laura.  That should let her use the altered clothing without having to have DCL. 

 

Let me play with it a bit and I'll let you know.  Also Laura might object to the change, so maybe she'll chime in and tell me to knock it off  

 

Looks good, you going to post your ESL / ESP?

[aurreth]

1 minute ago, kohlteth said:

 

Looks good, you going to post your ESL / ESP?

 

I have to fix her clothes first!     Oh, and it's not a replacement for anything, it's an addon, esp that loads after LBS to just change Laura's appearance and outfit.

 

I have one for Katarina too actually, she looks great with long, blonde, braided Nordic hair    But that one uses another mod for chainmail, and I don't want to put forward anything that requires any additional mods other than hair and the high poly faces one.

[kohlteth]

17 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

I have to fix her clothes first!     Oh, and it's not a replacement for anything, it's an addon, esp that loads after LBS to just change Laura's appearance and outfit.

 

I have one for Katarina too actually, she looks great with long, blonde, braided Nordic hair    But that one uses another mod for chainmail, and I don't want to put forward anything that requires any additional mods other than hair and the high poly faces one.

 

 

If you had one for Kati that used either KS or Appachi longish Red hair I would get ya lunch, the Vanilla hairs just dont work 11 yrs on  

 

Also ANYONE have any idea why on SSE I cant get Laura to start the Quest after Sloane invades the shop, Laura gives the lines but no quest starts

[aurreth]

8 hours ago, kohlteth said:

 

 

If you had one for Kati that used either KS or Appachi longish Red hair I would get ya lunch, the Vanilla hairs just dont work 11 yrs on  

 

 

I went with blonde to contrast with Laura's brown.  Plus she's a Nord, so I went with blonde Valkyrie-ish.  Increased her height to 1.05, and bumped her weight up to 0.85 (and I think the weight is still low, may try 1.0).

 

Red might be better, but it is so freakin' hard to get realistic red hair in a video game.

[aurreth]

Ok, dezazifiying the clothes worked.  That means Laura's dress and shoes aren't actually bondage devices and don't impact her movement speed, so she correctly "patrols" (moves back and forth between the counter and her chair).  End result is that there are only two additional mods required for my makeover:  High Poly Head v1.4 from Vector Plexus, and Apachii Sky Hair Female v1.5.1 from Nexus.

 

This does not replace LBS, it's a separate ESP.  Place it after LBS in your load order.  To get the new look and clothes to show up you might have to use the console to disable/enable Laura.  That won't hurt anything, just force her appearance to update (I've done it a lot over the past 24 hours, doesn't break any quests).

 

 

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by aurreth
Removed ESP, it caused facegen issues. Use the zip file in the post with the picture of Laura.

[Quoozey]

I think the quests could be shortened. Noticing that a lot of objectives are something like: "Talk to person A to find objective". Then you find person A and they say "Don't have/don't know about objective, try talking to person B".

 

I don't think the story is the intended pay off of these quests so it doesn't hurt the mod to have this, but maybe the quests could be cut down, or maybe each stop could be rewritten to gradually add restraints and/or challenges as you progress.

 

Also: this mod is awesome.

[aurreth]

9 minutes ago, rainbowgasm said:

I think the quests could be shortened. Noticing that a lot of objectives are something like: "Talk to person A to find objective". Then you find person A and they say "Don't have/don't know about objective, try talking to person B".

 

I don't think the story is the intended pay off of these quests so it doesn't hurt the mod to have this, but maybe the quests could be cut down, or maybe each stop could be rewritten to gradually add restraints and/or challenges as you progress.

 

Also: this mod is awesome.

 

Laura (the author) has made it pretty clear that the story IS the intended payoff.  It's a story about the difference between involuntary and consensual slavery, where the former is horrible and the latter rewarding (to those who choose it willingly.)  It's why they decide at the end of "What She Deserves" to seek out a willing candidate for Sloane rather than give her Jade (or the player).  Laura and Katarina make a moral choice to follow the real world BDSM lifestyle mantra of "safe, sane and consensual".  Well, at least consensual, because it doesn't seem like Sloane is exactly safe or sane at this point.

 

If you go up a page or two you'll see I asked about Laura offering the shop's spare room to Dynane, when the player has never been offered so much as a blanket in the shop's cage.  Laura (author) tells me "the story, wait for it."  There have been a number of suggestions for changes like that, and the answer is always "the story."

 

 

[Quoozey]

6 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

Laura (the author) has made it pretty clear that the story IS the intended payoff.  It's a story about the difference between involuntary and consensual slavery, where the former is horrible and the latter rewarding (to those who choose it willingly.)  It's why they decide at the end of "What She Deserves" to seek out a willing candidate for Sloane rather than give her Jade (or the player).  Laura and Katarina make a moral choice to follow the real world BDSM lifestyle mantra of "safe, sane and consensual".  Well, at least consensual, because it doesn't seem like Sloane is exactly safe or sane at this point.

 

If you go up a page or two you'll see I asked about Laura offering the shop's spare room to Dynane, when the player has never been offered so much as a blanket in the shop's cage.  Laura (author) tells me "the story, wait for it."  There have been a number of suggestions for changes like that, and the answer is always "the story."

 

 

I see. I hope I'm not slighting the author then. Literally did 2 quests: Strange rock and the one where you hunt down a thief. Thought I was going from the barkeeper to another NPC to ask where Jade is.

Spoiler

and now that I've done that I can see I was wrong.

Basically, I made a fucky wucky and I'm sorry.

Edited December 13, 2021 by rainbowgasm

[aurreth]

11 minutes ago, rainbowgasm said:

I see. I hope I'm not slighting the author then.

 

The narrative isn't perfect, but then it's a game, not a novel.    There are a few awkward places, but you get through them, and the author has said she's not going back and revising until she finishes the whole story. 

 

I've actually started making my own list of dialogue (not plot) revisions that try to make the player feel like a more integral piece of the story.  For example, there's a really bad spot in "What She Deserves" where Laura wonders about the player and Katarina is pretty dismissive about it.  There are some other places where the wording is a bit awkward, Laura/Kat trying to show they care but the phrasing doesn't quite work.  But you have to remember the author is dealing with more than just the narrative, so there are bound to be minor stumbles, especially when you have to play the same quest over and over to get the mechanics right.

[IBAGadget]

12 hours ago, aurreth said:

Ok, dezazifiying the clothes worked.  That means Laura's dress and shoes aren't actually bondage devices and don't impact her movement speed, so she correctly "patrols" (moves back and forth between the counter and her chair).  End result is that there are only two additional mods required for my makeover:  High Poly Head v1.4 from Vector Plexus, and Apachii Sky Hair Female v1.5.1 from Nexus.

 

This does not replace LBS, it's a separate ESP.  Place it after LBS in your load order.  To get the new look and clothes to show up you might have to use the console to disable/enable Laura.  That won't hurt anything, just force her appearance to update (I've done it a lot over the past 24 hours, doesn't break any quests).

 

 

Laura's Bondage Shop - Laura Makeover.esp 1.85 kB · 6 downloads

I have the requirements you have listed, and while I think Laura looks pretty good, it's really hard to tell with the dark brown face.

I have tried disable/enable and that didn't fix it.

 

Thoughts?

[Taki17]

2 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

I have the requirements you have listed, and while I think Laura looks pretty good, it's really hard to tell with the dark brown face.

I have tried disable/enable and that didn't fix it.

 

Thoughts?

The tweak you downloaded did not come with exported face meshes and textures, that's why you are getting the issue. Go into the CK, highlight Laura's record and press Ctrl+F4.

[IBAGadget]

5 hours ago, Taki17 said:

The tweak you downloaded did not come with exported face meshes and textures, that's why you are getting the issue. Go into the CK, highlight Laura's record and press Ctrl+F4.

CK won't let me load LBS - Too many Master Files referenced.

 

Skyrim

Update

DD (all of it)

Sexlab

Sexlab Aroused

 

[Taki17]

24 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Too many Master Files referenced.

Switch the value of bAllowMultipleMasterLoads to 1 in the config.

[aurreth]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:22 AM, Taki17 said:

The tweak you downloaded did not come with exported face meshes and textures, that's why you are getting the issue. Go into the CK, highlight Laura's record and press Ctrl+F4.

 

Oh, sorry.  Yeah, I did that locally but didn't think to make a full "mod" out of the tweak.  You know you'd think, after the game being like 1000 years old and this bug having existed the entire time, there'd be a tool somewhere other than the full CK that would just go through and do face fixes with a single click or something.

 

Ok, this is my best guess from file dates as to including the facegen stuff.  Should be installable with a mod manager this way too.

 

EDIT:  Moved to it's own thread to keep from derailing the real one:  https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/20315-lauras-bondage-shop-character-makeovers/

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by aurreth
Fixed file paths in the zip file.

[aurreth]

My apologies to people having problems with my makeover stuff.  I'm used to dealing with like massive structures, namely FO4 vaults (shameless plug for my Vault Empire series on Nexus lol), not individual characters.  I'll do some research on what needs to be included and where to find it, unless someone wants to PM me a quick primer.

 

AH!  I realize I should have specified.  I'm using SE (not AE), so not sure if that will make a difference or not.  Usually for something this simple it doesn't, but you never know.

 

Edit 2:  The heels make Laura really tall, I mean like really, really tall.  I may shrink her a bit to make things look a bit less silly.  I'll take a look at the Dollmaker, see what her height is set at.

 

Edit 3:  Nope, didn't help.  Oh well  

Edited December 14, 2021 by aurreth

[IBAGadget]

I'll give the new download a try and see if that fixes it before I start messing around in my CK ini.

[aurreth]

3 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

I'll give the new download a try and see if that fixes it before I start messing around in my CK ini.

 

For SE just install SSE Creation Kit Fixes.  That will take care of the problem for you, and it makes the whole thing a LOT more stable.

[IBAGadget]

Have the updated makeover installed. No more BFB, and Laura looks awesome.

 

As a bonus, she's naked, except for her collar and arm/leg cuffs.

 

But I'm not complaining.?

[aurreth]

9 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Have the updated makeover installed. No more BFB, and Laura looks awesome.

 

As a bonus, she's naked, except for her collar and arm/leg cuffs.

 

But I'm not complaining.?

 

Did you use the console to disable/enable her?  NOT "recycleactor", disable then enable.

 

I've seen the collar/cuffs only happen, but usually when I don't reload her outfit correctly.