I get bored of male characters in RPGs

[FauxFurry]

7 minutes ago, theposhmudcrab said:

I am definitely not a pervert though, I dress them all properly and do not create them to be eye-candy.

'Proper' is subjective.

[theposhmudcrab]

12 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

'Proper' is subjective.

When I say proper I mean things like this, this is my idea of proper

 

 

[dagobaking]

Freud could have written 10 more books if he had an LL account.

[shencereys]

26 minutes ago, theposhmudcrab said:

When I say proper I mean things like this, this is my idea of proper

 

 

Are you unattracted to females?  If you are, this makes sense.  You likely identify with the character, see it as an extension yourself, and one tends not to sexualize people they're not attracted to.

 

But if you're attracted to them and you choose to dress them in this fashion... well I don't think many of us are going to have much insight into what drives your reasoning behind playing female characters.  

 

I think most people who play characters of their preferred sex are going to enjoy seeing them in ways that are at least subtly sexualized.  When I play characters I'm attracted to, I like to be reminded of my attraction at least from time to time.

 

if you're attracted to female characters and this is honestly, seriously how you prefer to see them depicted (and you don't find this sexy somehow), then I'm not sure many people on the sexy games website are going to have good answers for you.  All of us are perverts and like sex in things.

[herpman]

Attraction has nothing to do with armor realism.

 

It could serve as an enticing pre-stripped state "Gee look at all that armor, what's she wearing under it?", but that's beside the point, I'll assume it's not the case as we're not in the 18+ forum, it's just practical immersive realism.

 

I've got my own take on it, but I read someone saying it helps you control the narrative better, if you're the one playing your character, you can sort of RP their decisions and try to construct believable scenarios to play out.

 

When I play a one of these games, and lately, I too have been playing a female character even in non-pornographic entries, I'm trying to get into and play from within the mindset of the character I created, not as a fate/fury/grace dictating what happens next to my ill-fated hero so that zeus can fap.

[FauxFurry]

46 minutes ago, theposhmudcrab said:

When I say proper I mean things like this, this is my idea of proper

 

 

Yes, and this is Proper attire in the base game:

 

[theposhmudcrab]

15 minutes ago, shencereys said:

Are you unattracted to females?  If you are, this makes sense.  You likely identify with the character, see it as an extension yourself, and one tends not to sexualize people they're not attracted to.

But I am attracted to females, very much in fact. I do not see the character as an extension of my self.

15 minutes ago, shencereys said:

 

But if you're attracted to them and you choose to dress them in this fashion... well I don't think many of us are going to have much insight into what drives your reasoning behind playing female characters.  

The reason why I dress them the way I do is because of a simple reason, no warrior in history went to battle dressed up in a bikini. And I love realism when it comes to the depiction of armor. All of my favorite armor mods are not sexy armor mods.

15 minutes ago, shencereys said:

I think most people who play characters of their preferred sex are going to enjoy seeing them in ways that are at least subtly sexualized.  When I play characters I'm attracted to, I like to be reminded of my attraction at least from time to time.

 

I do not enjoy seeing my character sexualized in any way. It is characters that I DO like that I don't want to see sexualized.

15 minutes ago, shencereys said:

if you're attracted to female characters and this is honestly, seriously how you prefer to see them depicted (and you don't find this sexy somehow), then I'm not sure many people on the sexy games website are going to have good answers for you.  All of us are perverts and like sex in things.

Yes this is how I prefer them depicted and no I don't find it sexy, I find it practical.

 

[FauxFurry]

Warriors may have never went into battle wearing bikinis but they certainly have worn loincloths or gone completely in the raw. The type of engagement, the setting (which includes time period if it takes place on Earth) and the character type/class or individual character personality are important in defining what appropriate gear is going to be.

 

When there is player choice involved, player preference or utility will decide what is appropriate rather than some universal standard. If the latter, then a wedding dress, a clown suit or a set of leather straps will be the proper option if they provide better stat bonuses than plate mail.

[FauxFurry]

54 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Freud could have written 10 more books if he had an LL account.

I don't know how true that is. After all, Madonna-Whore Complex is already well documented.

[Darkpig]

I think I have it figured out

 

You like

 

Strong female characters

 

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I SAID STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS DAMMIT!!!

Meh. It works.

[dagobaking]

20 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

I don't know how true that is. After all, Madonna-Whore Complex is already well documented.

I'm pretty sure that there are a few previously undiscovered complexes around.

[FauxFurry]

11 hours ago, dagobaking said:

I'm pretty sure that there are a few previously undiscovered complexes around.

That may be so but there are a few better case studies of such around the net. This site does turn up the usual in terms of orientations,complexes, and fetishes and in no small part thanks to the rules governing the site, for better or worse (for curiosity's sake). Surprises may yet await, however.

[MrEsturk]

I usually play female characters for certain personal reasons. Also I absolutely hate that "spunky teenage pretty boy" arch-type most JRPGs are obsessed making the main character so having a female gender option in those games is always a very welcome addition. I recently figured out how to mod my friend's Nintendo mini to play all nes/genesis/snes emulated roms and trying to find RPGs that don't shoehorn you into that arch-type from that era is a royal pain in the ass.

 

In regards to that outfit theposhmudcrab posted a pic of, it is quite modest just as they said. Those calling it practical here are sorely mistaken though. You'd exhaust yourself in 10 minutes trying to move around in that much plate + chainmail not to mention anyone with a polearm or axe could easily hook you by those ceremonial style shoulder plates. You'd be better off taking your chances with a just useless bikini. Modest doesn't automatically equal practical.

[yapi75]

I tried to play a female character once and got bored after fifteen minutes. I'm male, I love everything about men so I play only male characters. Females are just invisible to my eyes. Sorry for the 99% who think otherwise ?

[FauxFurry]

15 minutes ago, yapi75 said:

I tried to play a female character once and got bored after fifteen minutes. I'm male, I love everything about men so I play only male characters. Females are just invisible to my eyes. Sorry for the 99% who think otherwise ?

That seems to be the way that it is with certain gynophiles though gender inverted, hence their desire to play female characters only whenever the option presents itself. Both are as fine as reason to play a character type as any, I suppose.

[M.BISON]

to me it just sounds like you play the usual pc rpgs expecting a deep story and character development

[KoolHndLuke]

Perhaps it's about fantasy control over females for most guys. I mean you can't even hope to make them do all these wild sexcapades in real life. For instance, I decided last night that my character is going to become Kodlak's fuck toy for awhile.

[Darkpig]

22 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

In regards to that outfit theposhmudcrab posted a pic of, it is quite modest just as they said. Those calling it practical here are sorely mistaken though. You'd exhaust yourself in 10 minutes trying to move around in that much plate + chainmail not to mention anyone with a polearm or axe could easily hook you by those ceremonial style shoulder plates. You'd be better off taking your chances with a just useless bikini. Modest doesn't automatically equal practical.

There are better designed armors out there sure but Is it really better than wearing a bikini? We got fantasy metals and blahblah so maybe it doesn't weigh as heavy as it looks. It looks as if it has protection if anything unless there is some big glaring weak spot I missed.

[FauxFurry]

16 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

There are better designed armors out there sure but Is it really better than wearing a bikini? We got fantasy metals and blahblah so maybe it doesn't weigh as heavy as it looks. It looks as if it has protection if anything unless there is some big glaring weak spot I missed.

The Ebony Flesh spell and a good Ward spell is all that one needs in Skyrim, anyway.

That having been said, I wouldn't be averse to the defensive barrier like the ones that Mercurius Mobile Suits have in one of these games (most likely in part of the Fallout series).

[FauxFurry]

27 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

With XEdit you can modify the stats of any armor to be godly. So it is all a matter of "taste" anyway. As to what is "proper" or the term "lore friendly" that is up to heavy interpretation, and I do hate the term "lore friendly" since only the base game has any kind of "lore friendliness". 

The claims that revealing armor isn't lore friendly is inaccurate whether one looks at male or female armor sets in Skyrim though the female armor is substantially more modest than the male equivalents (a consequence of going mainstream). It looks even funnier if one looks at what was in the Elder Scrolls series prior to its appearance on consoles.

 

[KoolHndLuke]

2 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

and I do hate the term "lore friendly" since only the base game has any kind of "lore friendliness".

Agreed. But, just throwing some shit into a game and explaining it's existence as "magic" got kinda old for most people I think. Mods that build on the lore are better to me mostly- though that can be pretty restrictive at times depending on the game and lore. I have a friend that wants horses in FO4, but, everyone keeps telling her it ain't gonna happen because of the lore.

 

One of the reasons I prefer women to men in my game is because of the freedom I have to do whatever I want with them and it still be believable. Not so much with men.

[Shaddranat]

I've always found the concept of "practical armor" to be hilarious. Think about it, if armor were practical, would we not still be using it today? (Yes, I am INTIMATELY familiar with modern body armor/IBAs/bullet-proof vests, but this will play in to my following comments.) The term "practical" means that the item will not only be functional, but will also have the minimum amount of negatives associated with it in a given context. Take a set of full plate c. 15th century.  These were whole-body covering sets of interlocking metal plates backed with heavy leather and chain maille. In that era, these were "practical" because it essentially turned someone wearing them into the 15th century equivalent of an M1 Abrams tank. Very few weapons of the era could actually penetrate them with any regularity which greatly increased the chances of survival of the person wearing it. This type of armor, however, was not without it's weaknesses. They were bulky, relatively difficult to move in not to mention a bright, shining target to everyone in the opposing army with a sign that said "kill this guy first." The practicality of this type of armor came in by the balancing of the pros and cons in such a way as to be even or slightly balanced to the positive.

 

Now go back even further, say the single-digit century mark and the ancient Celts. It is pretty well documented that Celtic warriors would often charge into battle wearing nothing but a torque (a twisted metal necklace like decoration) and a raging hard-on. Now, you're probably asking why this was "practical" at all since the mutha fucka was naked.  Well, think about it. If you've got a naked dude screaming bloody murder and charging you with a sword and a boner...are you just going to ignore it an think that his lack of defensive equipment will let you win the day?  Fuck no, you're gonna get scared as outta your goddamned mind. It's also the case that the torque was considered a symbol of divine protection by the Celts, so seeing someone wearing one might have made some uneducated rando think that this guy, boner and all, was protected by the gods.  All in all, it was a matter of intimidation; couple that with the extreme ease of movement provided by nudity and you have yourself a pretty "practical" set of "armor."

 

The case can also be made that a type of armor that was once practical loses that practicality with the advent of more advanced weaponry. The 15th century full plate, for example, became pretty goddamned useless when any pleb with a arbelest could fuck his shit up from a hundred yards away. When that came about, the types of "practical" armor started to favor lighter pieces that allowed more ease of movement and a greated speed on the battlefield, allowing people to get to the crossbowmen faster, thus negating their battlefield advantage (or at least minimizing it).

 

Now for the big one.  We are talking about a fantasy genre game. Magic is kind of a thing in a fantasy, and magic is the ultimate equalizer.  Sure, that piece of armor looks like a string bikini, but the "powerful protective enchantment" on it will turn all but the mightiest of attacks. That's the beautiful thing about fantasy...it is only confined by the limits of your imagination. With that in mind, any possible concept of "practicality" goes right out the fucking window, and you are left with only one thing: personal, aesthetic preference. If you like the look of big, bulky ceremonial-style armors, use those. If you want your character to run around with nothing but a ball gag and a vag-plug, do that. It's a fantasy, and in a fantasy anything goes.

[Darkpig]

1 hour ago, Shaddranat said:

Summary- "I am a bikini user fear me!"

That's good man that's real good. Now here is the breakdown.

You can do somersaults in plate armor like so:

 

[mercplatypus]

There's people who still fight butt naked.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Butt_Naked

 

The guy was even known as General Butt Naked.  He's still alive.

[GimmeBACON]

21 hours ago, theposhmudcrab said:

I am definitely not a pervert though, I dress them all properly and do not create them to be eye-candy.

... Is this specifically a Bethesda issue? Or do you choose women exclusively in any game that gives you a blank slate? Does playing a main character in other games ruin the experience for you i.e. Legend of Zelda, God of War, etc?