Devious Rubber Masks: Rebirth!

[HyperonicX]

Wow! They look great!
 

Doubt I'll use them, but I like what you did nonetheless.

[SelosTeef]

8 hours ago, HyperonicX said:

Wow! They look great!
 

Doubt I'll use them, but I like what you did nonetheless.

Would I be allowed to make a separate expansion mod with these masks if I finish them?

[HyperonicX]

Just now, SelosTeef said:

Would I be allowed to make a separate expansion mod with these masks if I finish them?

Sure. Just make sure you credit me and Nothing Doing for creating the original and remade mods.

[SelosTeef]

2 hours ago, HyperonicX said:

Sure. Just make sure you credit me and Nothing Doing for creating the original and remade mods.

Of course.

[HermausMoron]

On 8/31/2018 at 9:48 AM, SelosTeef said:

Hey friend, I played around with the pony masks a little more and I was able to do this:

 

It required quite a bit of tweaking and the strap kind of floats, but what do you think?

 

I have one with a blindfold too but the blindfold mesh looks too strange and there's a lot of clipping.

Are those gags equipped over the mask, or all one unit?

[SelosTeef]

13 hours ago, HermausMoron said:

Are those gags equipped over the mask, or all one unit?

All in one, because I had to change the head mesh as well.

[HermausMoron]

On 8/31/2018 at 9:48 AM, SelosTeef said:

Hey friend, I played around with the pony masks a little more and I was able to do this:

 

It required quite a bit of tweaking and the strap kind of floats, but what do you think?

 

I have one with a blindfold too but the blindfold mesh looks too strange and there's a lot of clipping.

Wait, I just got an idea. What if the wings were mounted on an armbinder of the corresponding color?

[HyperonicX]

23 minutes ago, HermausMoron said:

Wait, I just got an idea. What if the wings were mounted on an armbinder of the corresponding color?

It might be possible to do it.

[SelosTeef]

3 hours ago, HermausMoron said:

Wait, I just got an idea. What if the wings were mounted on an armbinder of the corresponding color?

I was actually thinking of this idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to put the armbinder (or elbowbinder, which is tighter, but some animations are not fit for it) and wings model together.

 

2 hours ago, HyperonicX said:

It might be possible to do it.

I could provide de model.

[HyperonicX]

1 hour ago, SelosTeef said:

I was actually thinking of this idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to put the armbinder (or elbowbinder, which is tighter, but some animations are not fit for it) and wings model together.

 

I could provide de model.

Go for it!

[SelosTeef]

Here.

What'd you think? I made one for Flutters, Rainbow and Twilight. But I can also make one for the rest without the wings.

 

 

Currently the armbinder itself uses the same textures as the wings and gauntlets, but I can change that, so you can make it a different color from the wings and gauntlets.

[HermausMoron]

19 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

I was actually thinking of this idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to put the armbinder (or elbowbinder, which is tighter, but some animations are not fit for it) and wings model together.

 

I could provide de model.

LOL That was unexpected.

 

I wonder if it would be possible to give them a featherfall and/or speed enchantment for shits and giggles.

 

2 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

Here.

What'd you think? I made one for Flutters, Rainbow and Twilight. But I can also make one for the rest without the wings.

 

 

Currently the armbinder itself uses the same textures as the wings and gauntlets, but I can change that, so you can make it a different color from the wings and gauntlets.

That was fast.

 

Not bad, though the attachment looks a bit off the way they're extending over the edge of the binder at the top. Perhaps shrinking them a little and/or moving them further down? The color is good as it is.

[HyperonicX]

4 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

Here.

What'd you think? I made one for Flutters, Rainbow and Twilight. But I can also make one for the rest without the wings.

 

 

Currently the armbinder itself uses the same textures as the wings and gauntlets, but I can change that, so you can make it a different color from the wings and gauntlets.

Oh wow! That's awesome!

[SelosTeef]

2 hours ago, HermausMoron said:

Not bad, though the attachment looks a bit off the way they're extending over the edge of the binder at the top. Perhaps shrinking them a little and/or moving them further down? The color is good as it is.

You mean like this?

 

 

26 minutes ago, HyperonicX said:

Oh wow! That's awesome!

Thank you (not really because I didn't make either model lol)

[HermausMoron]

2 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

You mean like this?

 

 

Thank you (not really because I didn't make either model lol)

Oh yeah, much better! Stellar work, man

[SelosTeef]

8 hours ago, HermausMoron said:

Oh yeah, much better! Stellar work, man

One personal gripe I have though is that the wings look a little too low on her back, they don't match the character's scapula.

But that might make sense considering they're meant to look artificial, so I don't know.

[HermausMoron]

16 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

One personal gripe I have though is that the wings look a little too low on her back, they don't match the character's scapula.

But that might make sense considering they're meant to look artificial, so I don't know.

Heheh, well I had kinda envisioned them as joke items, adding a layer of silliness to the kink. The fact that they're a bit off from the shoulders kinda adds to the feel I was aiming for. I think they serve as a nice compliment to the gagged pony masks. If it bothers you that much, if/when we get around to some kind of bodysuit, you could attach them in the normal place as appropriate.

[HermausMoron]

Pony stuff aside, I came across a few outfits that seem like they're fair game for this:

Spoiler

 

Edhildil's Daedric Freak

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54930

Not sure how well it would work as a suit, but the headpiece seems perfect for the mask list.

Edhildil's XP327 Spacesuit

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60296

NeoVinci's Inpou Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30416

NeoVinci's Horus Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67371

Queen of Blades Armor (no screenshot available)

Nausicaa's Gomdori Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29118

The Taokaka armor from TES4 Mod for Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59867/?

 

 

Also tempted to upload my copy of The Mad Masker mod (VICN isn't hosting the mod anymore for some reason), but I'd probably have to do a full inventory for appropriate masks and armors.

 

Edit: How did I forget these old favorites by Sevennity?

Spoiler

 

Bombshell Dragon from SevenWardrobe

Demonic Mermaid and Medusa Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60387

 

 

[HyperonicX]

1 hour ago, HermausMoron said:

Pony stuff aside, I came across a few outfits that seem like they're fair game for this:

Edhildil's Daedric Freak

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54930

Not sure how well it would work as a suit, but the headpiece seems perfect for the mask list.

Edhildil's XP327 Spacesuit

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60296

NeoVinci's Inpou Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30416

NeoVinci's Horus Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67371

Queen of Blades Armor (no screenshot available)

Nausicaa's Gomdori Armor

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29118

The Taokaka armor from TES4 Mod for Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59867/?

 

Also tempted to upload my copy of The Mad Masker mod (VICN isn't hosting the mod anymore for some reason), but I'd probably have to do a full inventory for appropriate masks and armors.

Some of those aren't bad. I may add them to the mod, providing that the creators do not mind me doing so. (Obviously I'll put up links to their mods and give them credit.)

[monsta88]

Hello HyperonicX,

 

I recently started a new game and finally had a chance to try your mod.

 

Awesome work! I tried some of the new suits, they look really cool. Ashlolle is one of my new favorites.

 

Some feedback and suggestions:

 

- A lot of the previews in the inventory are shifted down or shown from an angle which is not really showing the item properly. It is just a minor issue.

 

- I think the masks should behave like the devious hoods. I'm not etirely sure how should this work, but I could remove a blindfold while wearing a mask. It might work as intended though.

 

- I did not see the flavor text (maybe I just missed it) when you put on a mask and a suit and they fuse together. I think there was something like that in the old version. For me these flavor texts were also important, because these made the suits unique compared to the regular latex suits in DD.

 

- Do you think it is possible to make the suits with HDT? That would be sooo epic.

 

 

Please keep updating!

 

Peace,

M

[SelosTeef]

7 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Hello HyperonicX,

 

I recently started a new game and finally had a chance to try your mod. 

 

Awesome work! I tried some of the new suits, they look really cool. Ashlolle is one of my new favorites. 

 

Some feedback and suggestions:

 

- A lot of the previews in the inventory are shifted down or shown from an angle which is not really showing the item properly. It is just a minor issue.

 

- I think the masks should behave like the devious hoods. I'm not etirely sure how should this work, but I could remove a blindfold while wearing a mask. It might work as intended though.

 

- I did not see the flavor text (maybe I just missed it) when you put on a mask and a suit and they fuse together. I think there was something like that in the old version. For me these flavor texts were also important, because these made the suits unique compared to the regular latex suits in DD.

 

- Do you think it is possible to make the suits with HDT? That would be sooo epic.

 

 

Please keep updating!

 

Peace,

M

Hey, I am not talking on behalf of Hyperonic but I just wanted to say that I have tried to add the flavor text (not the fuse one, that was part of a custom script that the original author made and doesn't work with the current version of DD) and I was only partially successful. It works until the window that asks if you want to lock the mask or not, I tried to change the text but DD gives me an error after that and the mask itself breaks.

 

And the dislocated preview models might be because of a misplaced axis on the model. I looked into it but I haven't found why that is. I'll comment here if I'm able to fix at least one.

[HyperonicX]

11 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Hello HyperonicX,

 

I recently started a new game and finally had a chance to try your mod.

 

Awesome work! I tried some of the new suits, they look really cool. Ashlolle is one of my new favorites.

 

Some feedback and suggestions:

 

- A lot of the previews in the inventory are shifted down or shown from an angle which is not really showing the item properly. It is just a minor issue.

 

- I think the masks should behave like the devious hoods. I'm not etirely sure how should this work, but I could remove a blindfold while wearing a mask. It might work as intended though.

 

- I did not see the flavor text (maybe I just missed it) when you put on a mask and a suit and they fuse together. I think there was something like that in the old version. For me these flavor texts were also important, because these made the suits unique compared to the regular latex suits in DD.

 

- Do you think it is possible to make the suits with HDT? That would be sooo epic.

 

 

Please keep updating!

 

Peace,

M

Thanks for the feedback.

 

- The angle for the inventory previews are like that sometimes because there is not a proper GND file, so I simply used what I had. This will cause the problem you described.

There's nothing I can do about it.

 

- I have thought about this beforehand, and in the near future, I may be able to make this possible, and still have the gag enchantment going. Only downside is that you won't have the "call for help" menu pop up when you select your equipped mask.

 

- The flavor text is not possible to add in as of yet. This is something I dearly want to add in, but DD4 compatibility has restricted that usage. (As far as I know.)

 

- Alas no. The person (or people) who made/converted the suits did not add HDT to them, and I am not someone who can use Blender/3DS Max or even the bloody Outfit Studio.

So, unfortunately, HDT is not possible for these. At least not in my case.

4 hours ago, SelosTeef said:

Hey, I am not talking on behalf of Hyperonic but I just wanted to say that I have tried to add the flavor text (not the fuse one, that was part of a custom script that the original author made and doesn't work with the current version of DD) and I was only partially successful. It works until the window that asks if you want to lock the mask or not, I tried to change the text but DD gives me an error after that and the mask itself breaks.

 

And the dislocated preview models might be because of a misplaced axis on the model. I looked into it but I haven't found why that is. I'll comment here if I'm able to fix at least one.

Thanks for trying to get the flavour text working.

Had it succeeded, it would have been a tremendous help to me.

[monsta88]

I checked a tutorial and tried to do some magic with Outfit studio, but I failed miserably.

 

I think I added the breast bounce bones to Ashlotte properly, but in the game the suit just fails to work completely. When I equip it, it gives the proper DD messages, but then it becomes invisible. In the inventory it looks like it is equipped, but it can be just taken off w/o keys.

 

I also tried D.Va, but in that case the Outfit Studio just crashed when I tried to save the new .nif, making it a 0 byte file (so I had to reinstall the mod to get it back).

 

Update: Suddenly none of the suits work (they behave like I described above with Ashlotte) . I think it is becaue the character is wearing a Chastity Belt with a plug (as I remember the suits also have plugs, however the flavor message disappeared about those too). It is a timed belt, so I need to play a little before I can remove it. However this might be a bug then.

[HyperonicX]

3 hours ago, monsta88 said:

I checked a tutorial and tried to do some magic with Outfit studio, but I failed miserably.

 

I think I added the breast bounce bones to Ashlotte properly, but in the game the suit just fails to work completely. When I equip it, it gives the proper DD messages, but then it becomes invisible. In the inventory it looks like it is equipped, but it can be just taken off w/o keys.

 

I also tried D.Va, but in that case the Outfit Studio just crashed when I tried to save the new .nif, making it a 0 byte file (so I had to reinstall the mod to get it back).

 

Update: Suddenly none of the suits work (they behave like I described above with Ashlotte) . I think it is becaue the character is wearing a Chastity Belt with a plug (as I remember the suits also have plugs, however the flavor message disappeared about those too). It is a timed belt, so I need to play a little before I can remove it. However this might be a bug then.

The suits do use the plug slots, so you are gonna have to wait until you can remove the belt.

[monsta88]

OK, I did it. Test successful!

 

This was just a 2 minute work and I just added the breast bounce to 1 element of the full suit. So if I can do it, it is very easy to do it. This is the Ashlotte body file in meshes/actors/ashlotte dir. (Just to be on the safe side, make sure you make a safety copy before you overwrite it...)

 

body.nif

 

I still have no idea though why the D.Va crashes the Outfit Studio.

 

BTW, just look for a tutorial how to copy weights from a reference body.

 

Update: Unfortunately I was too happy too soon. I tried this for like 10 more suits and it was a major failure. I could do it only on Miranda, and even that is not a 100% proper update. The other suit results were disastrous, the models changed horribly when equipped. Some simply crashed the game when I navigated there in the inventory. Anyway, it is definitely doable, we just need someone who knows what he is doing.