CliftonJD Posted May 29 Author Posted May 29 (edited) 6 hours ago, thor192 said: forgot to give an update the same thing happens even on the new character that got the message and as a side note I can not figure out this FM+ bug out the mcm just sees my female character as male even though the game and sexlab say female no mater what I do which is very annoying although I did get the FM activation screen that shows up when the character changes cells to pop up but only a while after I started which is weird so youre saying on the new loose script update the mod still doesnt start for you? if pahe still isnt working right, ill need to see updated papyrus logs Edited May 29 by CliftonJD
thor192 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 (edited) 19 hours ago, CliftonJD said: so youre saying on the new loose script update the mod still doesnt start for you? if pahe still isnt working right, ill need to see updated papyrus logs here are the most recent logs just note I need to fix a loose script so IDK if that effects anythingPapyrus.0.logPapyrus.1.logPapyrus.2.logPapyrus.3.log the scripts are the jsw bb storage and utility scripts Edited May 29 by thor192 1
thor192 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 (edited) Oh thank god it works now it seems whatever changed in the 8.2.3 update fixed it but Idk why it didnt work when I tried right after updating I was trying to fix other mods too so that may have something to do with it Now I have to figure out this FM+ bug wish me luck lol can anyone please see if those logs I gave have anything related to FM+ IDK how to read them? I need all the help I can get because I have been trying to fix it for a few days some more info about the FM+ problem if needed is the game sees the PC as female but FM+ is stuck on male even if I try to force the mcm to see it as female it still says male Edited May 29 by thor192 1
CliftonJD Posted May 29 Author Posted May 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, thor192 said: here are the most recent logs just note I need to fix a loose script so IDK if that effects anythingPapyrus.0.logPapyrus.1.logPapyrus.2.logPapyrus.3.log the scripts are the jsw bb storage and utility scripts 2 hours ago, thor192 said: Oh thank god it works now it seems whatever changed in the 8.2.3 update fixed it but Idk why it didnt work when I tried right after updating I was trying to fix other mods too so that may have something to do with it Now I have to figure out this FM+ bug wish me luck lol can anyone please see if those logs I gave have anything related to FM+ IDK how to read them? I need all the help I can get because I have been trying to fix it for a few days some more info about the FM+ problem if needed is the game sees the PC as female but FM+ is stuck on male even if I try to force the mcm to see it as female it still says male ok good to hear at least pahe works now. as for the fm+ mod thats unable to detect the correct player gender, while im not familiar enough with the mod to point exactly, ill give you a rough estimate based on your logs. most of your script property errors were too numerous to mention without knowing the mod calling them so skipping past those to the errors directly pointing to specific mods: the first problem you already pointed out with jsw_bb is having the same error as fm+: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [_JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._jsw_bb_utility.GetActorGender() - "_JSW_BB_Utility.psc" Line 501 [_JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._jsw_bb_utility.AddActor() - "_JSW_BB_Utility.psc" Line 281 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 124 next up if you're using custom race mods with script issues, that could cause errors detecting player related specifics: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call doProxyRace() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [11DeepElfRaceController (12002F9E)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [11DeepElfRaceController (12002F9E)].DeepElfRaceController.OnInit() - "DeepElfRaceController.psc" Line 41 Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call doProxyRace() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [00SnowElfRaceController (1E00A68A)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [00SnowElfRaceController (1E00A68A)].SnowElfRaceControllerI.OnInit() - "SnowElfRaceControllerI.psc" Line 41 Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp2" stack: [aaaUchihaRaceController (540162C0)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [aaaUchihaRaceController (540162C0)].aaaUchihaRaceController.OnInit() - "aaauchiharacecontroller.psc" Line 38 this next error doesnt give enough info, only that your problem with fm+ is trying to get your info from jsw_BB Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Property FMValues not found on _jsw_bb_storage. Aborting call and returning None stack: [_JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvholderscript.UpdateGVs() - "_JSW_SUB_GVHolderScript.psc" Line 127 [_JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvholderscript.PlayerLoadedGame() - "_JSW_SUB_GVHolderScript.psc" Line 103 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvalias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_SUB_GVAlias.psc" Line 92 tainted blood seems to be scripted to expect the player to use playable children races and a few others: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableChildrenRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 107 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableChildrenRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 109 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 114 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 114 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableDraugrRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 116 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableDraugrRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 118 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 123 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 123 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableElderRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 125 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableElderRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 127 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 132 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 132 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableSkeletonRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 134 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableSkeletonRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 136 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 141 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 141 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableWorgenRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 143 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableWorgenRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 145 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 150 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 150 jsw_bb has some more issues here, looks like its trying to update leveled lists: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call AddForm() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.UpdateLeveledLists() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 1159 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 138 that script is compounding your problems further thru the log: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:37PM] Error: Array index 25 is out of range (0-21) stack: [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.UpdateStatusAll() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 665 theres a bunch of other array indexes like that after it after that it runs into errors that might only exist as a result of the other problems, starting with a floating sword: Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot cast a spell from a None source stack: [ (44100520)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ? [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 124 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call GetItemCount() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 137 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 137 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call AddItem() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 138 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call GetActorBase() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 159 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call SetVoiceType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 159 that was just from your smallest log, your biggest log has some issues with loading an old save for jsw_BB Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ActorLocation_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ActorLocParent_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::AdultChildren_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ATFlags_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ATFlagsMale_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::BirthBabyRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::BlackListByName_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::Children_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ChildrenFathered_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ChildrenSpawned_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CouplesQuestions_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CurrentFatherForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CurrentFatherRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::DayOfCycle_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ExcludeAT_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FatherLocation_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FatherLocParent_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemAttached_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemHasLoveInterest_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemPromiscuity_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::Fidelity_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FMValues_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FormListToForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GenericFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVAlias_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVHolder_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::LaborAliases_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::LastFatherForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::MaleAttached_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::maxAdoptions_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::myLoadIndex_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::OvulationBlock_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ParentStrings_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::PlayerChildRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::PlayerRelatedFac_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::RefractoryPeriod_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::SpermCount_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Int[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::TimesDelivered_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::TrackedMaleFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueChildren_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueFathers_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueMothers_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UpdateRequired_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FMMiscUtil_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GenericFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVHolder_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::keywords_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ForceGender on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ScalingMethod on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable UniqueMenOnly on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable UniqueWomenOnly on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. other mods run into problems after that, likely as result of the previous issues Spoiler [05/29/2026 - 04:48:46PM] Error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.RebuildSlotmask() - "------------------------------" Line 187 [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.UpdateDeviceHiderSlot() - "------------------------------" Line 230 [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.Maintenance() - "------------------------------" Line 96 [alias playerREF on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "------------------------------------" Line 9 that floods the log too much to be worth trusting the save overall id say, you need to fix or uninstall those custom races spamming the log. jsw_bb might work better with those out the way if you want to retry that on a new save. if you still have trouble, you might also want to try it without tainted blood Edited May 29 by CliftonJD
thor192 Posted May 31 Posted May 31 (edited) On 5/29/2026 at 7:49 PM, CliftonJD said: ok good to hear at least pahe works now. as for the fm+ mod thats unable to detect the correct player gender, while im not familiar enough with the mod to point exactly, ill give you a rough estimate based on your logs. most of your script property errors were too numerous to mention without knowing the mod calling them so skipping past those to the errors directly pointing to specific mods: the first problem you already pointed out with jsw_bb is having the same error as fm+: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [_JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._jsw_bb_utility.GetActorGender() - "_JSW_BB_Utility.psc" Line 501 [_JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._jsw_bb_utility.AddActor() - "_JSW_BB_Utility.psc" Line 281 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 124 next up if you're using custom race mods with script issues, that could cause errors detecting player related specifics: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call doProxyRace() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [11DeepElfRaceController (12002F9E)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [11DeepElfRaceController (12002F9E)].DeepElfRaceController.OnInit() - "DeepElfRaceController.psc" Line 41 Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call doProxyRace() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [00SnowElfRaceController (1E00A68A)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [00SnowElfRaceController (1E00A68A)].SnowElfRaceControllerI.OnInit() - "SnowElfRaceControllerI.psc" Line 41 Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp2" stack: [aaaUchihaRaceController (540162C0)].GenericRaceController.proxyRaces() - "GenericRaceController.psc" Line 81 [aaaUchihaRaceController (540162C0)].aaaUchihaRaceController.OnInit() - "aaauchiharacecontroller.psc" Line 38 this next error doesnt give enough info, only that your problem with fm+ is trying to get your info from jsw_BB Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Property FMValues not found on _jsw_bb_storage. Aborting call and returning None stack: [_JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvholderscript.UpdateGVs() - "_JSW_SUB_GVHolderScript.psc" Line 127 [_JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvholderscript.PlayerLoadedGame() - "_JSW_SUB_GVHolderScript.psc" Line 103 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_SUB_GVHolder (FE02687C)]._jsw_sub_gvalias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_SUB_GVAlias.psc" Line 92 tainted blood seems to be scripted to expect the player to use playable children races and a few others: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableChildrenRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 107 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableChildrenRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 109 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 114 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 114 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableDraugrRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 116 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableDraugrRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 118 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 123 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 123 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableElderRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 125 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableElderRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 127 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 132 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 132 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableSkeletonRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 134 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableSkeletonRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 136 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 141 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 141 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableWorgenRaces.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 143 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: File "PlayableWorgenRaces.esl" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 145 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call GetSize() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 150 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack: [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.LoadKnownCustomRaces() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 161 [None]._TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.OnEffectStart() - "_TaintedBloodDetectRaceScript.psc" Line 150 jsw_bb has some more issues here, looks like its trying to update leveled lists: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:34PM] Error: Cannot call AddForm() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.UpdateLeveledLists() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 1159 [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 138 that script is compounding your problems further thru the log: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:37PM] Error: Array index 25 is out of range (0-21) stack: [alias playerAlias on quest _JSW_BB_HandlerQuest (24000D62)]._JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.UpdateStatusAll() - "_JSW_BB_HandlerQuestAliasScript.psc" Line 665 theres a bunch of other array indexes like that after it after that it runs into errors that might only exist as a result of the other problems, starting with a floating sword: Hide contents [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot cast a spell from a None source stack: [ (44100520)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ? [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 124 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call GetItemCount() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 137 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 137 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call AddItem() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 138 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call GetActorBase() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 159 [05/29/2026 - 03:54:38PM] Error: Cannot call SetVoiceType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias FS_PlayerAlias on quest 0_FloatingSwordQuest01 (440171EE)]._0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_0_FloatingSwordRestoreHost.psc" Line 159 that was just from your smallest log, your biggest log has some issues with loading an old save for jsw_BB Reveal hidden contents [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ActorLocation_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ActorLocParent_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::AdultChildren_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ATFlags_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ATFlagsMale_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::BirthBabyRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::BlackListByName_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::Children_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ChildrenFathered_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ChildrenSpawned_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CouplesQuestions_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CurrentFatherForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::CurrentFatherRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::DayOfCycle_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ExcludeAT_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FatherLocation_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FatherLocParent_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemAttached_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemHasLoveInterest_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FemPromiscuity_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::Fidelity_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FMValues_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FormListToForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GenericFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVAlias_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVHolder_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::LaborAliases_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::LastFatherForm_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::MaleAttached_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::maxAdoptions_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::myLoadIndex_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::OvulationBlock_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::ParentStrings_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::PlayerChildRace_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Form[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::PlayerRelatedFac_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::RefractoryPeriod_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Type of variable ::SpermCount_var on script _jsw_bb_storage, which is Int[], doesn't match the type loaded in the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::TimesDelivered_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::TrackedMaleFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueChildren_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueFathers_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UniqueMothers_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::UpdateRequired_var on script _jsw_bb_storage loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::FMMiscUtil_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GenericFaction_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::GVHolder_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ::keywords_var on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ForceGender on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable ScalingMethod on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable UniqueMenOnly on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. [05/29/2026 - 04:48:45PM] WARNING: Variable UniqueWomenOnly on script _jsw_bb_utility loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped. other mods run into problems after that, likely as result of the previous issues Reveal hidden contents [05/29/2026 - 04:48:46PM] Error: Cannot access an element of a None array stack: [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.RebuildSlotmask() - "------------------------------" Line 187 [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.UpdateDeviceHiderSlot() - "------------------------------" Line 230 [zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zaddevicesunderneathscript.Maintenance() - "------------------------------" Line 96 [alias playerREF on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (22041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "------------------------------------" Line 9 that floods the log too much to be worth trusting the save overall id say, you need to fix or uninstall those custom races spamming the log. jsw_bb might work better with those out the way if you want to retry that on a new save. if you still have trouble, you might also want to try it without tainted blood dang I use tainted blood and the uchiha clan as permanent mods in my load order and have used them for years so IDK why it would start acting up now as for the snow elf and deep elf races I can ghet rid of those I never play any races besides uchiha and a race called tetra (which is from a mod called the tyrany of aurbis that I can only find on bethesda's mod download page and I can not get there for the life of me to download again lol here is a link if anyone is interested https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/8ad2da0b-1b45-4336-8caf-8de4e89d6829/The_Tyranny_of_Aurbis___Rebirth there is another mod I have thats exclusive to the bethesda mods page as well I cant remember its name but the esp is called anoldorder and I think the name was something like the order of the silver fang or smth like that if anyone knows how to get to the bethsda mod page to download those mods please let me know) I have also not had problems with the floating sword follower esp (which is from a mod called there is no umbra) before so IDK why this happens either as for the jsw bb storage script I think I solved that by deleting the loose file with the same name and have not gotten any error messages about it since if you could help me with this problem that would be great because I dont really have any other options because the only other place I know to post anything is the FM fixes mod page on nexus and I posted a message there but I dont expect to hear back as the last messages are from 2024 that I saw here are some updated logs if you are able to help mePapyrus.3.logPapyrus.1.logPapyrus.0.log also for some reason the game seems to crash a lot when loading a save from that new character idk why but what happens is the game gets really slow and the graphics kind of bug out and then it ctds but for some reason I can get past that sometimes if I use the ~ key to open the console command menu and do that few times while it goes through that slow buggy part I did make another new character yesterday after fixing PAHE to try to figure out the FM+ problem but I still have the same problem so IDK what to do if even making a new character doesnt work sorry for asking for so much help even when this isn't your area I just don't know where to go except the mod page which I tried and I am very grateful for all the help especially with anything outside of PAHE as you have no obligation to help with anything that is not PAHE related Thank you very much Edit: Sorry I forgot to say if you don't want to continue helping please say so because I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to Edit2: Actually forget I asked I just started another new character and made her a breton and FM+ works fine with this one Edited May 31 by thor192
CliftonJD Posted May 31 Author Posted May 31 14 hours ago, thor192 said: Actually forgot I asked I just started another new character and made her a breton and FM+ works fine with this one Edited 5 hours ago by thor192 that confirms the error about the custom races, based on the log its something about proxy races which is likely an issue with loose scripts again, and likely from a prerequisite mod
thor192 Posted May 31 Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, CliftonJD said: that confirms the error about the custom races, based on the log its something about proxy races which is likely an issue with loose scripts again, and likely from a prerequisite mod I was to make a breton and get it to work like I said yesterday and i tried making that breton into an uchiha and tetra with the showracemenu command and for some reason they work fine now on this new character just not the other one I have not had any crashes so far except 1 ctd when I finished using the race menu and it was changing the view from the race menu to either 3rd or first person but when I loaded the game again and did the exact same things it didn't crash so I was able to make 2 new characters lol My guess as to why it works now and not the last character is because when I made the last one I was still fixing a few bugs and because of that I was disabling enabling and uninstalling and re installing a lot of mods and replacing files trying to fix things so I think both the bugs and the changes messed up the save and probably some stuff that was baked into the save. In any case I somehow got those 2 custom races to work and FM+ and PAHE now work on everyone so I guess it worked out in the end. the only question/sort of problem I have is why the items from the mod that the deep elf race came from are still craftable and usable when I disabled the plugins its not hurting anything leaving it like that but I am just curious also 1 quick question do you know how to get files from the bethesda modpage without going there in game because I can not get there for the life of me even when I reinstall the game because then the game crashes on startup so I cant even try is there some sort of way to download them online but without going in the game? I have tried searching this before a few times and I can not find much on this subject the only thing I found that's relevant was the bethesda to vortex plugin but that seems to only transfer it from the game to vortex to manage if I download the mod from the bethesda mod page in game I am just trying to get 2 mods from there which I do have but are somewhat corrupt last I checked so I am trying to get new ones so I don't have to cheat the items and spells in especially because they are very powerful weapons and can and will break the difficulty if you get them earlier than you can beat the bosses who use/drop them Edited May 31 by thor192
CliftonJD Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 On 5/31/2026 at 2:03 PM, thor192 said: I was to make a breton and get it to work like I said yesterday and i tried making that breton into an uchiha and tetra with the showracemenu command and for some reason they work fine now on this new character just not the other one I have not had any crashes so far except 1 ctd when I finished using the race menu and it was changing the view from the race menu to either 3rd or first person but when I loaded the game again and did the exact same things it didn't crash so I was able to make 2 new characters lol My guess as to why it works now and not the last character is because when I made the last one I was still fixing a few bugs and because of that I was disabling enabling and uninstalling and re installing a lot of mods and replacing files trying to fix things so I think both the bugs and the changes messed up the save and probably some stuff that was baked into the save. In any case I somehow got those 2 custom races to work and FM+ and PAHE now work on everyone so I guess it worked out in the end. the only question/sort of problem I have is why the items from the mod that the deep elf race came from are still craftable and usable when I disabled the plugins its not hurting anything leaving it like that but I am just curious also 1 quick question do you know how to get files from the bethesda modpage without going there in game because I can not get there for the life of me even when I reinstall the game because then the game crashes on startup so I cant even try is there some sort of way to download them online but without going in the game? I have tried searching this before a few times and I can not find much on this subject the only thing I found that's relevant was the bethesda to vortex plugin but that seems to only transfer it from the game to vortex to manage if I download the mod from the bethesda mod page in game I am just trying to get 2 mods from there which I do have but are somewhat corrupt last I checked so I am trying to get new ones so I don't have to cheat the items and spells in especially because they are very powerful weapons and can and will break the difficulty if you get them earlier than you can beat the bosses who use/drop them best i can say is maybe see of those mods were posted anywhere else
Turill Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 5/27/2026 at 1:36 PM, CliftonJD said: this update is packed loose to overwrite previous scripts In MO2, should I install as a separate mod and let overwrite 8.2.2 or use the Merge?
CliftonJD Posted June 3 Author Posted June 3 On 6/2/2026 at 1:22 AM, Turill said: In MO2, should I install as a separate mod and let overwrite 8.2.2 or use the Merge? either way would work, but as a separate mod to let overwrite would be easier to clean up later if needed
thor192 Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) On 6/1/2026 at 7:12 PM, CliftonJD said: best i can say is maybe see of those mods were posted anywhere else already did I even made a reddit post asking if anyone had then and could share a while back and no one replied lol oh well I am able to make it work now so it was probably the saves I tried it on a while back either way thanks for all the help it was very helpful Edited June 4 by thor192 1
clement17 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) sorry guys, i was all the while trying to fix the problem through googling, but this one i dont think i found a fix yet, if anyone faced this issue please share how to fix it. I have PAHE , DOM, AYGAS, HSH everything installed find without CTD, i am able to mark slave and get slave. My issue : Simple can live without it : slave info spells not working anymore suddenly. Game breaking issue: when PAHE rename the NPC, they used the NPC name within the game example, i capture a slave it renamed her to "ingun Black-Briar" then it Alter the ORGINAL NPC as well as the slave, should this happens? something wrong with my loot order or installation ? Edit : -More explanation of above, the ingun "slave" would even carry the quest by ingun, the original NPC in the town has all the dialogues of slaves like "ok slave...." Edited June 5 by clement17
TrollAutokill Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 10 minutes ago, clement17 said: Simple can live without it : slave info spells not working anymore suddenly. PAH slave info only works on PAH slaves and HSH slaves if you have HSH for PAH. If you have HSH for DOM it requires you to use DOM info spells for HSH slaves. As for renaming, do you have any auto rename mod on like Real Names? Edited June 5 by TrollAutokill
clement17 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: PAH slave info only works on PAH slaves and HSH slaves if you have HSH for PAH. If you have HSH for DOM it requires you to use DOM info spells for HSH slaves. As for renaming, do you have any auto rename mod on like Real Names? Thanks for the information, so DOM should have a spell for slave info, i am guessing my DOM did not installed properly causing it doesn't have MCM menu and spells. I don't have any renaming mods, only came from PAHE, I'm going to reinstall everything and try again. doen't need to go through New game hopefully. Also come to think of it, i have a mod that made more enemy that uses Vanilla NPC clones.... i am guessing that's the one get me fucked up on slaves. link to mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/150196 i will try to remove this and look for a replace see if i still have the game breaking bugs. Thanks again @TrollAutokill will report back if the bug fixed. Edited: Typo Edited June 5 by clement17
CliftonJD Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 53 minutes ago, clement17 said: Thanks for the information, so DOM should have a spell for slave info, i am guessing my DOM did not installed properly causing it doesn't have MCM menu and spells. I don't have any renaming mods, only came from PAHE, I'm going to reinstall everything and try again. doen't need to go through New game hopefully. Also come to think of it, i have a mod that made more enemy that uses Vanilla NPC clones.... i am guessing that's the one get me fucked up on slaves. link to mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/150196 i will try to remove this and look for a replace see if i still have the game breaking bugs. Thanks again @TrollAutokill will report back if the bug fixed. Edited: Typo never seen that problem before, but checked the mod listed. Quote This mod uses vanilla NPCs as templates its not an exaggeration, those are the original npcs in the leveled list
clement17 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 43 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: never seen that problem before, but checked the mod listed. its not an exaggeration, those are the original npcs in the leveled list yes, i just realised too. now i have been reinstalling everything couldn't get DOM MCM to work. also when installing PAH-AYGAS 0.72f-DOM will CTD. i have even put DOM at the lowest, even without HSH and others , installing AYGAS 0.72f will anyhow CTD. (using SKYRIMSE GOG) btw.
TrollAutokill Posted June 5 Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, clement17 said: yes, i just realised too. now i have been reinstalling everything couldn't get DOM MCM to work. also when installing PAH-AYGAS 0.72f-DOM will CTD. i have even put DOM at the lowest, even without HSH and others , installing AYGAS 0.72f will anyhow CTD. (using SKYRIMSE GOG) btw. Do you papyrus tweaks installed? Also with old saves, sometimes you should install a few mods. wait for initialization and install more. Always save/reload after init, both for new games and old saves.
clement17 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 16 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Do you papyrus tweaks installed? Also with old saves, sometimes you should install a few mods. wait for initialization and install more. Always save/reload after init, both for new games and old saves. I have these installed for papyrus, do you mind to share the link for tweak?
TrollAutokill Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, clement17 said: I have these installed for papyrus, do you mind to share the link for tweak? You're missing the Papyrus tweak, they are needed to fix the MCM. The link is on the DOM file installation tab in the minimal setup. Which is valid for both PAH and DOM: Spoiler 2) Recommended minimum to run DOM: (in blue bold are the 3 Absolute minimum, DOM will not load without those!) SKSE USSEP SSE Engine fixes SkyUI (no MCM without it) Address library JContainers (no reading/writing JSON files without it) UIExtensions (no wheel menu without it) Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations Scripts Carefully Reworked Optimized and Tactfully Enhanced (SCROTE) Kris's papyrus extender PapyrusUtil Powerofthree Papyrus Extender (needed for a lot of DOM functionalities) Powerofthree Tweaks Papyrus Tweaks NG. Recommended settings: iMaxOpsPerFrame = 1000 bSpeedUpNativeCalls = true Hug kill move fix for USSEP Pandora (recommended) or FNIS Sexlab (recommended) or OStim (not supported by PAH). Do not use SLP+ unless you know what you're doing. Zaz 8+ (recommended) Edited June 5 by TrollAutokill
clement17 Posted June 6 Posted June 6 (edited) 8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: You're missing the Papyrus tweak, they are needed to fix the MCM. The link is on the DOM file installation tab in the minimal setup. Which is valid for both PAH and DOM: Reveal hidden contents 2) Recommended minimum to run DOM: (in blue bold are the 3 Absolute minimum, DOM will not load without those!) SKSE USSEP SSE Engine fixes SkyUI (no MCM without it) Address library JContainers (no reading/writing JSON files without it) UIExtensions (no wheel menu without it) Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations Scripts Carefully Reworked Optimized and Tactfully Enhanced (SCROTE) Kris's papyrus extender PapyrusUtil Powerofthree Papyrus Extender (needed for a lot of DOM functionalities) Powerofthree Tweaks Papyrus Tweaks NG. Recommended settings: iMaxOpsPerFrame = 1000 bSpeedUpNativeCalls = true Hug kill move fix for USSEP Pandora (recommended) or FNIS Sexlab (recommended) or OStim (not supported by PAH). Do not use SLP+ unless you know what you're doing. Zaz 8+ (recommended) Thanks a lot , i will try it and report back. Edited: Thanks a lot again everyone especially @TrollAutokill, The Tweak did the work, no more crashing with the latest 0.72f, but though i have a question might be out of this topic see if you guys have any experience if you don't mind, it happens after installing PAHE mods though. Edited 2: Deleted screenshot, issue fixed, it is caused by the facial expression mods, it uses custom head nif which author said is not compatible with anyothers texture and meshes. i removed it all and now working great. Thanks everyone. though i don't see DOM MCM yet Edited June 6 by clement17
TrollAutokill Posted June 6 Posted June 6 (edited) 4 hours ago, clement17 said: i don't see DOM MCM yet Try in the console: setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 Wait 3 minutes. Edited June 6 by TrollAutokill
clement17 Posted June 6 Posted June 6 48 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Try in the console: setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 Wait 3 minutes. Still no luck , did a few times in different CELL, though the others mod regconized DOM existed, does NFF or others mods conflcting?
TrollAutokill Posted June 6 Posted June 6 1 hour ago, clement17 said: Still no luck , did a few times in different CELL, though the others mod regconized DOM existed, does NFF or others mods conflcting? It means you have another mod screwing the MCM. No other way than deactivate half mods, see if it works, repeat until you find the culprit.
clement17 Posted June 6 Posted June 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: It means you have another mod screwing the MCM. No other way than deactivate half mods, see if it works, repeat until you find the culprit. OMG this is my last resort and i have to use it. Thanks, let me try that and update again. Edited : I tried restart game and DOM works like a charm, though too sad i need to restart the game for it to work, figures mid game would break a lot of mods. I uninstalled Defeat and Submit since PAHE and DOMS +AYGAS already have what it takes i guess. Thanks for helping again @TrollAutokill Edited 2: found the culprit - Amorous adventures. Also installing Dom have playthrough kills Dom cause i've did a lot of quest, which it's a total kill switch is why DOM wont load half play through. I started a new game and DOM loaded without any issue, but AA doesn't want to load is how i found the culprit. Edited June 6 by clement17 2
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