sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[CliftonJD]

5 hours ago, thor192 said:

I have tried that before nothing changes this is what it looks like before pressing the button and after pressing it and going back in all the other pages are just blank

edit: the order is a bit messed up it is 2 pictures before 1 with the mouse over the button and one without then the one showing the startup message and then another set like the first 2

now you've got me confused, normally it would actually show the status and not just say status. you even have the message that it started on screen, but nothing else from it

try installing version 8.2.2 to see if the problem persists

if it still dont work on a new save, post an updated papyrus log and we'll see if something else has it stuck. if it also gives a different result this time, post updated screenshots

2 hours ago, trgdolors said:

I am wondering if you have had any luck bringing back the feature in the MCM when renaming an NPC of having the mod give the user a suggested name? Thanks!

ya, i got the suggested name working again without freezing the mcm, then got stuck on something else i was working on. maybe ill set that aside for now and release the renamer update with an autostart fix to skyrim unbound

[thor192]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

now you've got me confused, normally it would actually show the status and not just say status. you even have the message that it started on screen, but nothing else from it

try installing version 8.2.2 to see if the problem persists

if it still dont work on a new save, post an updated papyrus log and we'll see if something else has it stuck. if it also gives a different result this time, post updated screenshots

ya, i got the suggested name working again without freezing the mcm, then got stuck on something else i was working on. maybe ill set that aside for now and release the renamer update with an autostart fix to skyrim unbound

I have 8.2.2 IDK why it says 8.2.0

[thor192]

anyway Skyrim broke majorly again and it just did this about 2 weeks ago and took 4 whole days to fix it from wake up to going to sleep and then a few more hours to make new characters which is normal and why I do not like making new characters and since it is doing the same thing again and I don't really know how I fixed it last time I am just going to have to stop playing for a while because I don't have it in my to fix it again and make more characters. And the worst part is its a problem with nif files and always ctds on startup and I cant remember what I did last time but I think I had to redownload all my mods and I cant do that again and this time it has a new problem that it didn't have last time which is crashing when trying to access a memory but it looks like the memory is corrupt or something its something like 0xfffffffe which from what I can find online means its corrupted

 

 

I guess Ill see you all in at least a few months whenever I can get the energy to do this crap aagin

Edited May 25 by thor192

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, thor192 said:

anyway Skyrim broke majorly again and it just did this about 2 weeks ago and took 4 whole days to fix it from wake up to going to sleep and then a few more hours to make new characters which is normal and why I do not like making new characters and since it is doing the same thing again and I don't really know how I fixed it last time I am just going to have to stop playing for a while because I don't have it in my to fix it again and make more characters. And the worst part is its a problem with nif files and always ctds on startup and I cant remember what I did last time but I think I had to redownload all my mods and I cant do that again and this time it has a new problem that it didn't have last time which is crashing when trying to access a memory but it looks like the memory is corrupt or something its something like 0xfffffffe which from what I can find online means its corrupted

 

 

I guess Ill see you all in at least a few months whenever I can get the energy to do this crap aagin

ok, ill get skyrim unbound first, then immersive creatures special edition. maybe something will turn up in the installer. 

[CliftonJD]

On 5/22/2026 at 4:48 PM, thor192 said:

Papyrus.3.logPapyrus.2.logPapyrus.1.logPapyrus.0.logand here are the logs I have in my skyrim se folder in documents that should be all

 

 

quick question while I am at it what is the difference between protected and unprotected?

i went back to your original posts for this

On 5/24/2026 at 1:24 PM, thor192 said:

I have tried that before nothing changes this is what it looks like before pressing the button and after pressing it and going back in all the other pages are just blank

edit: the order is a bit messed up it is 2 pictures before 1 with the mouse over the button and one without then the one showing the startup message and then another set like the first 2

and this both represent the same result

18 hours ago, thor192 said:

I have 8.2.2 IDK why it says 8.2.0

this was the only part that still doesnt add up, unless you have it installed twice and 8.2 is the mcm script youre running with original paradise halls main scripts running on top of it. its as if you extracted both bsa files from 8.2.0 and additionally installed 8.2.2 without extracting or you extracted both versions but 8.2 was extracted after 8.2.2

 

even adding immersive creatures didnt change the results and the mod still autostarted with skyrim unbound installed

18 hours ago, thor192 said:

anyway Skyrim broke majorly again and it just did this about 2 weeks ago and took 4 whole days to fix it from wake up to going to sleep and then a few more hours to make new characters which is normal and why I do not like making new characters and since it is doing the same thing again and I don't really know how I fixed it last time I am just going to have to stop playing for a while because I don't have it in my to fix it again and make more characters. And the worst part is its a problem with nif files and always ctds on startup and I cant remember what I did last time but I think I had to redownload all my mods and I cant do that again and this time it has a new problem that it didn't have last time which is crashing when trying to access a memory but it looks like the memory is corrupt or something its something like 0xfffffffe which from what I can find online means its corrupted

 

 

I guess Ill see you all in at least a few months whenever I can get the energy to do this crap aagin

maybe the best way to proceed from here would be to change mod managers. as far as i can tell, thats where the issue lies if its showing you 8.2.2 in your mod manager but 8.2.0 in game and its extracting files in the wrong order so you dont get the intended scripts running

[thor192]

18 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

i went back to your original posts for this

and this both represent the same result

this was the only part that still doesnt add up, unless you have it installed twice and 8.2 is the mcm script youre running with original paradise halls main scripts running on top of it. its as if you extracted both bsa files from 8.2.0 and additionally installed 8.2.2 without extracting or you extracted both versions but 8.2 was extracted after 8.2.2

 

even adding immersive creatures didnt change the results and the mod still autostarted with skyrim unbound installed

maybe the best way to proceed from here would be to change mod managers. as far as i can tell, thats where the issue lies if its showing you 8.2.2 in your mod manager but 8.2.0 in game and its extracting files in the wrong order so you dont get the intended scripts running

it might be a bsa thing because when skyrim broke again I did so much last time to try and fix it but cant remember all of what I did but I do remember extracting the texture and meshes bsas from base skyrim but that didnt work anyway I might have put pahe in the extractor as well to see if that would help or something because I do not know much about what all this does 

only problem is I dont think I had the 8.2.0 installed at the time because I uninstall 8.2.0 when i try 8.2.2 and vice versa

Edited May 26 by thor192

[thor192]

anyway I have to figure out what I did to get the nif files back I think i had to reinstall all my mods and extract the files manually for all of them which is a big pain but I cant remember how I got the files for the base game again because reinstalling didnt work

[CliftonJD]

8 hours ago, thor192 said:

it might be a bsa thing because when skyrim broke again I did so much last time to try and fix it but cant remember all of what I did but I do remember extracting the texture and meshes bsas from base skyrim but that didnt work anyway I might have put pahe in the extractor as well to see if that would help or something because I do not know much about what all this does 

only problem is I dont think I had the 8.2.0 installed at the time because I uninstall 8.2.0 when i try 8.2.2 and vice versa

yes, its exactly a bsa thing as i said from the start. you should really break the habit of extracting the files from bsa. you may have told it to uninstall, but the mod manager youre using is leaving the scripts behind after uninstall, which is exactly what you pulled from the bsa files that is giving the problems

8 hours ago, thor192 said:

anyway I have to figure out what I did to get the nif files back I think i had to reinstall all my mods and extract the files manually for all of them which is a big pain but I cant remember how I got the files for the base game again because reinstalling didnt work

all the more reason to switch mod managers. with mo theres no need to reinstall everytime skyrim is broken, you can fully disable any mod at will or completely uninstall any mod. you can even setup profiles of your mod list for troubleshooting random quirks

 

 

switching to mo years ago is how i was able to troubleshoot the home sweet home problem so easily because i was able to disable all mods at will until its just home sweet home and the prerequisites and when the problem still persisted, i then disabled home sweet home and it went away. if i wasn't using mo, i would have needed to uninstall everything and start over to clean up all the loose ends

Edited May 26 by CliftonJD

[thor192]

fair enough but the nif problem wasn't because of vortex it was the nif optimizer tool and honestly it takes a lot of time and energy to change mod managers and I just dont have it in me rn and it takes a lot of getting used to I actually tried using MO a while back and just could not get the hang of it

 

also I rarely use the bsa extractor I only used it because I was trying to fix the game and when it first happened I had no idea what was doing it so I was just trying to get all the files back so its not really a habit if I only use it for emergencies 

Edited May 27 by thor192

[thor192]

also I started a new character and the mcm now says 8.2.2 but still has the same result as in the pictures so IDK what to do anymore should I just delete all of it manually and place the files in manually or what?

[Snus wizard]

hi, is pah not compatible with milk mod economy and being a cow? when i tried to enslave milk maid who was like 78% transformed, she lost the milk maid title leading to body before transformation.

[thor192]

3 hours ago, Snus wizard said:

hi, is pah not compatible with milk mod economy and being a cow? when i tried to enslave milk maid who was like 78% transformed, she lost the milk maid title leading to body before transformation.

thats probably because when you turn someone into a slave pahe makes a copy of that character so it looks the same as the npc but it is a separate npc from the original so the new slave would start from scratch because its a new npc system wise

the original is dead and put in the cell where all the dead bodies are but does act like a pahe slave if you use console commands to resurrect them and move them to you but pahe still uses the copy for things like the mcm teleportation

 

if you want to have an npc be both a slave and milkmaid you need to make them a slave first then train them as a milkmaid or you have to start over if you make them a slave after you make any progress

Edited May 27 by thor192

[thor192]

16 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

yes, its exactly a bsa thing as i said from the start. you should really break the habit of extracting the files from bsa. you may have told it to uninstall, but the mod manager youre using is leaving the scripts behind after uninstall, which is exactly what you pulled from the bsa files that is giving the problems

all the more reason to switch mod managers. with mo theres no need to reinstall everytime skyrim is broken, you can fully disable any mod at will or completely uninstall any mod. you can even setup profiles of your mod list for troubleshooting random quirks

 

 

switching to mo years ago is how i was able to troubleshoot the home sweet home problem so easily because i was able to disable all mods at will until its just home sweet home and the prerequisites and when the problem still persisted, i then disabled home sweet home and it went away. if i wasn't using mo, i would have needed to uninstall everything and start over to clean up all the loose ends

ok uninstalled the mod and I think I got most of the files from the data folder and deleted them and then I installed 8.2.2 again and overwrote anything left over that I missed and I still have the same problem only difference is it says 8.2.2 and the mcm has something new under the debug part and the debug part also says status disabled or something like that but those both go away if I try to start it up and return to how it looks in the pictures above

I will get a screenshot in a sec

Edited May 27 by thor192

[thor192]

here are the screenshots

[CliftonJD]

6 hours ago, Snus wizard said:

hi, is pah not compatible with milk mod economy and being a cow? when i tried to enslave milk maid who was like 78% transformed, she lost the milk maid title leading to body before transformation.

for now i would have to agree, you need to enslave them before turning them into milk maids. i will have to look into possibilities of transferring old milk maids to new slaves on future revisions

3 hours ago, thor192 said:

here are the screenshots

finally getting the current status and toggles menu is progress. you should have also gotten some messages on screen announcing pahe is waiting for other mods to load and after some seconds it will autostart

[CliftonJD]

On 5/24/2026 at 4:04 PM, trgdolors said:

I am wondering if you have had any luck bringing back the feature in the MCM when renaming an NPC of having the mod give the user a suggested name? Thanks!

 

18 hours ago, thor192 said:

also I started a new character and the mcm now says 8.2.2 but still has the same result as in the pictures so IDK what to do anymore should I just delete all of it manually and place the files in manually or what?

this update is packed loose to overwrite previous scripts. it still needs the files you already have so you wont need to change anything else for this version. kept the start delay for other mods, i think it lasts about 2 or 3 minutes total before it autostarts or you can still start from the mcm. 

 

update 8.2.3 Se:

• fixes the suggested name given by the renamer
• minor tweaks to performance of the slave skill updates

update 8.2.3 unprotect slaves Se:

• slaves can die

[thor192]

38 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

for now i would have to agree, you need to enslave them before turning them into milk maids. i will have to look into possibilities of transferring old milk maids to new slaves on future revisions

finally getting the current status and toggles menu is progress. you should have also gotten some messages on screen announcing pahe is waiting for other mods to load and after some seconds it will autostart

When I started this save I was having ui trouble and could not see anything no messages in the top left no quest start notifications nothing in the crosshair view so because of that IDK if that happened or not but I have fixed that ui problem since then

 

 

 

I am also having trouble with Fertility mode+ mcm which I never had before and it seems I am not alone one guy did something in sexlab mcm and it started working

The problem is it is not finding any sexlab support active but only on the new characters and my 1 male character that I was able continue using has it working idk why so IDK if this might be connected to the pahe problems but i am mentioning it just in case 

[thor192]

3 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

 

this update is packed loose to overwrite previous scripts. it still needs the files you already have so you wont need to change anything else for this version. kept the start delay for other mods, i think it lasts about 2 or 3 minutes total before it autostarts or you can still start from the mcm. 

 

update 8.2.3 Se:

• fixes the suggested name given by the renamer
• minor tweaks to performance of the slave skill updates

update 8.2.3 unprotect slaves Se:

• slaves can die

I always took the bsa option so would I need to get the files from the lose version and overwrite anything now?

 

Lol sorry was thinking about Fertility mode + lol too many mods to keep track of

Edited May 27 by thor192

[thor192]

Seems it might be a problem with the new characters so I will make another new character because I didnt even do anything on this one yet lol still in the skyrim unbound chantrel patch starting room

[thor192]

33 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

 

this update is packed loose to overwrite previous scripts. it still needs the files you already have so you wont need to change anything else for this version. kept the start delay for other mods, i think it lasts about 2 or 3 minutes total before it autostarts or you can still start from the mcm. 

 

update 8.2.3 Se:

• fixes the suggested name given by the renamer
• minor tweaks to performance of the slave skill updates

update 8.2.3 unprotect slaves Se:

• slaves can die

ok installed those now to make a new character

got the pahe notification to appear for a split second before the game went to the race menu to make my character

Edited May 27 by thor192

[Kronos968]

Hey so I have a question what exactly are the differences between 8.2.3 se and 8.2.3 unprotected slave?

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Kronos968 said:

Hey so I have a question what exactly are the differences between 8.2.3 se and 8.2.3 unprotected slave?

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/102948-paradise-halls-enhanced-pahe-special-edition-with-the-customary-addons/page/216/#findComment-7308294

[Kronos968]

So if i understand correctly in 8.2.3 slaves are protected or are they made essential and 8.2.3 unprotected slave they are killable 

[thor192]

4 hours ago, Kronos968 said:

So if i understand correctly in 8.2.3 slaves are protected or are they made essential and 8.2.3 unprotected slave they are killable 

well there was a 8.2.2 with a protected and unprotected version as well so I am guessing that a bug was fixed that lets them be killed in the unprotected version because otherwise that wouldn't be a change

Edited May 28 by thor192

[thor192]

On 5/27/2026 at 4:06 PM, thor192 said:

ok installed those now to make a new character

got the pahe notification to appear for a split second before the game went to the race menu to make my character

forgot to give an update the same thing happens even on the new character that got the message and as a side note I can not figure out this FM+ bug out the mcm just sees my female character as male even though the game and sexlab say female no mater what I do which is very annoying although I did get the FM activation screen that shows up when the character changes cells to pop up but only a while after I started which is weird

Edited May 28 by thor192