companion Meet FULLY VOICED Insane Ivy 4.0!

[Reginald_001]

6 hours ago, JasonTodd1976 said:

Thought Heather would have been ok as she works outside of the followers framework? I assume that the same applies to the Fusion City series- Fusion City Rising, Outcasts and Remnants, Project Valkyrie and Depravity?

I've not played most of those mods, except for Heather. But the reasons aren't just technical. Especially in the later build 5.0, slated for release in October, there are many reasons content-wise to not use other companions.

 

If people use any of the popular multi-follower mods or companion frameworks, then Ivy will not want to travel with the player; she doesn't like crowds. If you need to temporarily travel with another companion due to quest reasons, then Ivy will allow it. You can then 'soft' dismiss her, disabling many of her features, while she will still tag along with your ream.

[HentaiGnome]

1 minute ago, Reginald_001 said:

I've not played most of those mods, except for Heather. But the reasons aren't just technical. Especially in the later build 5.0, slated for release in October, there are many reasons content-wise to not use other companions.

 

If people use any of the popular multi-follower mods or companion frameworks, then Ivy will not want to travel with the player; she doesn't like crowds. If you need to temporarily travel with another companion due to quest reasons, then Ivy will allow it. You can then 'soft' dismiss her, disabling many of her features, while she will still tag along with your ream.

Thanks for implementing a built-in check for that! Should be useful for those with multiple custom followers installed in one playthrough. 

 

Not gonna lie, though; I've been holding off on playing FO4 ever since I learned about your announcement in releasing Ivy 5.0 later this year   Time can't fly by any faster lol!

 

To pass the time I've been messing around with Skyrim SE again. Quick question: Any plans to create a similar Ivy-like character for Skyrim SE in the future? Obviously I don't mean a synth or anything lore-breaking, but I mean as a humanoid who's got an intriguing backstory with lots of raunchy lines and innuendos to spread around lol. I mean, hell, she could be Daedric succubus bound to us or something

 

[Reginald_001]

23 minutes ago, HentaiGnome said:

To pass the time I've been messing around with Skyrim SE again. Quick question: Any plans to create a similar Ivy-like character for Skyrim SE in the future? Obviously I don't mean a synth or anything lore-breaking, but I mean as a humanoid who's got an intriguing backstory with lots of raunchy lines and innuendos to spread around lol. I mean, hell, she could be Daedric succubus bound to us or something

I have around 200 hours of gameplay on my Skyrim, versus 3200 in Fallout 4. I played it and I don't think I ever finished the main base quests. I got to become the Dragon born, I remember talking to an old dragon and doing his quests. I then became the elder mage of the wizard school, which I thought was a pretty awesome quest line. Then I walked into town and got recruited as thieve and assassin. Then I just sorta stopped..

 

I tried playing it again, but between the head bobbing during crouching, the lack of guns and the constant need to run into areas I'm not supposed to, ending up dead, I stopped playing it. I also couldn't really choose a side between all the factions, I liked none of them so I always stayed alone; never becoming a Jarl anywhere, or doing the town quests either to become affiliated with them.

 

Then around 2200 hours of Fallout 4 happened and I released Ivy, after which I decided to try Skyrim again, but after becoming the elder mage far quicker than the first time, this time around, I really started to miss Fo4, so another 1000 or so hours of that happened.

 

Honestly, I don't think a follower for Skyrim like Ivy is going to happen.

I've been hopelessly stuck on Fallout 4 since it's release, not even able to play other games.

 

But, never say never. Recently I've played Agony Unrated, which made a friend of mine literally sick when he saw it (he's a grade school teacher so I guess it's not really his cup of tea haha) and I've been playing Doom upside down. I also played Mass Effect 1-3 up and down around 10 times, always finishing it completionist style so there's many hours logged into that.

[Adviser69]

1 hour ago, HentaiGnome said:

Thanks for implementing a built-in check for that! Should be useful for those with multiple custom followers installed in one playthrough. 

 

Not gonna lie, though; I've been holding off on playing FO4 ever since I learned about your announcement in releasing Ivy 5.0 later this year   Time can't fly by any faster lol!

 

To pass the time I've been messing around with Skyrim SE again. Quick question: Any plans to create a similar Ivy-like character for Skyrim SE in the future? Obviously I don't mean a synth or anything lore-breaking, but I mean as a humanoid who's got an intriguing backstory with lots of raunchy lines and innuendos to spread around lol. I mean, hell, she could be Daedric succubus bound to us or something

 

My recommendation is Alicia Painslut if you're wanting a similar experience for Skyrim. Yinkle uploaded a CBBE version for SE, and I'm gonna be working on a UNP version for SE once I finish some other conversions. Alicia has an interesting backstory and is very much an adult oriented companion, with her own quests. She can be found here:

 

[Adviser69]

So... I'm gonna try out Ivy with Sim Settlements and Sim Settlements: Conqueror. With these mods, I don't have to worry about building and I can actually assault and take over built up settlements rather than just claiming and building myself in vanilla. In addition, the default faction for Conqueror is your own Raider gang, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if I go off the rails a bit. I've just been wanting to run my raider character for so long now...

[HentaiGnome]

3 hours ago, Reginald_001 said:

I have around 200 hours of gameplay on my Skyrim, versus 3200 in Fallout 4. I played it and I don't think I ever finished the main base quests. I got to become the Dragon born, I remember talking to an old dragon and doing his quests. I then became the elder mage of the wizard school, which I thought was a pretty awesome quest line. Then I walked into town and got recruited as thieve and assassin. Then I just sorta stopped..

 

I tried playing it again, but between the head bobbing during crouching, the lack of guns and the constant need to run into areas I'm not supposed to, ending up dead, I stopped playing it. I also couldn't really choose a side between all the factions, I liked none of them so I always stayed alone; never becoming a Jarl anywhere, or doing the town quests either to become affiliated with them.

 

Then around 2200 hours of Fallout 4 happened and I released Ivy, after which I decided to try Skyrim again, but after becoming the elder mage far quicker than the first time, this time around, I really started to miss Fo4, so another 1000 or so hours of that happened.

 

Honestly, I don't think a follower for Skyrim like Ivy is going to happen.

I've been hopelessly stuck on Fallout 4 since it's release, not even able to play other games.

 

But, never say never. Recently I've played Agony Unrated, which made a friend of mine literally sick when he saw it (he's a grade school teacher so I guess it's not really his cup of tea haha) and I've been playing Doom upside down. I also played Mass Effect 1-3 up and down around 10 times, always finishing it completionist style so there's many hours logged into that.

LOL! Okay, got it   I haven't played Agony Unrated although it's on my wish list. But maybe it'll inspire you to do something for Skyrim or, if you're still around for it, Elder Scrolls 6? Whenever that comes out... I'm sure many people here in the LoversLab community will be looking forward to modding the crap out of that lol. But I will say though that if Ivy is what you wanna focus on then that's totally cool. Sometimes it's better to not spread out into too many projects especially if it's a one-man team after all. And I'm sure I've said this before, but I really enjoy playing with Ivy and I'm looking forward to 5.0, so thanks for sharing her!

 

 

2 hours ago, Adviser69 said:

My recommendation is Alicia Painslut if you're wanting a similar experience for Skyrim. Yinkle uploaded a CBBE version for SE, and I'm gonna be working on a UNP version for SE once I finish some other conversions. Alicia has an interesting backstory and is very much an adult oriented companion, with her own quests. She can be found here:

 

Oh hey, thanks for the heads up! I dunno why I've never heard of her before, but  I'll give her a try.  I personally use CBBE, but goodluck in doing the UNP version! Many will appreciate it for sure.

[JasonTodd1976]

6 hours ago, Reginald_001 said:

I've not played most of those mods, except for Heather. But the reasons aren't just technical. Especially in the later build 5.0, slated for release in October, there are many reasons content-wise to not use other companions.

 

If people use any of the popular multi-follower mods or companion frameworks, then Ivy will not want to travel with the player; she doesn't like crowds. If you need to temporarily travel with another companion due to quest reasons, then Ivy will allow it. You can then 'soft' dismiss her, disabling many of her features, while she will still tag along with your ream.

Cool Cool, Wasn't sure it the "Heather Concern" was covered All good Mate

[Invictusblade]

just wondering, I recently did a minor leaders patch for Sim Settlements ROTC in which Ivy can be a leader.

in the same patch, I did the same with a selection of NPC's from Boston Breeders.

 

would anyone like it or should I just keep it to myself

[thedarlec]

okay I figured they all would do damage but figured would ask if anybody knew wich one does the least damage well thanks anyway...and I would have no idea what is broken because I have been using follower mods for a while so everything would seem normal though admittedly I have yet to see her actually freak out

[Guest]

On 9/6/2019 at 6:40 AM, Reginald_001 said:

Couldn't have summed it up any better.

 

In 5.0 if you have one of these mods installed, Ivy will tell you personally.

OH DAMN!!!!

Am I that old where the old reference to "broken record" is starting to become lost?

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Adviser69 said:

So... I'm gonna try out Ivy with Sim Settlements and Sim Settlements: Conqueror. With these mods, I don't have to worry about building and I can actually assault and take over built up settlements rather than just claiming and building myself in vanilla. In addition, the default faction for Conqueror is your own Raider gang, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if I go off the rails a bit. I've just been wanting to run my raider character for so long now...

I will never understand Bethesda's design strategy for Nuka-World. That option should have been available immediately and setting up a raider faction and work the MQ before doing anything else in The Commonwealth would make a hell of a lot more sense than establishing the MM and maybe affiliating with another anti-raider faction, and then one fateful train ride later....BANG, New Overboss and now I am going to conquer all those settlements I already run. Yeah, OK Bethesda.

 

 

Makes almost as much sense as fighting your way into an old crypt killing every single vampire in there (because you are a vampire hunter) only to end up with "Hi, my name is Serana. Nice to meet you....and BTW you have to escort me back to my castle.......where the vampire army lives....oh, and don't ask about this Elder Scroll on my back.".........uhhh.....ok.

 

Yeah, that made a lot of sense.

[maddadicusrex]

Would it be OK to have the follower mods downloaded, but do not use them in game? I had UFF downloaded but did not use it on anyone and Ivy seemed OK. It was a small sample size in terms of gameplay. .I just hate to enable/disable mid game..

[Sevatt]

6 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

Would it be OK to have the follower mods downloaded, but do not use them in game? I had UFF downloaded but did not use it on anyone and Ivy seemed OK. It was a small sample size in terms of gameplay. .I just hate to enable/disable mid game..

Nope. Simply having them in your LO along with Ivy can break her. This has been tested and confirmed time and again. If your super concerned about your save, look into Resaver from Fallrim Tools and remove the scripts and such of your UFF. If not, you run high risk of two broken mods to contend with at worst, or missing out on all of Ivy's content at best; neither are fun options.

 

Ivy may have "seemed" ok, but it ain't worth the risk if this is save your "ultimate-uber -play through." And there's also the possibility of not knowing what you were missing as a reult of having UFF installed.

[Sevatt]

On 9/5/2019 at 12:45 PM, BaldurAnthology said:

Do you have any mods you personally recommend to be paired with Ivy? Housing mods? Outfits? Weapon or body types? On the subject of body types, what of CBBE body do you recommend be her body type?

Also, I still haven't figured out where I'm not supposed to take her. 

LOL "Hey, do you think that fits in my anus?" Answer: "No sweetie, it's a shopping basket... lets hope not"

 

So long as you're avoiding multi-follower mods or mods that drastically alters the Sanctuary landscape (beyond adding foliage, texture, and/or housing mesh changes), she plays nice with just about everything, at least in all the heavy LOs I've ran with Ivy in the past.

 

The only exception regarding LO to consider, is taken from the description page, if you run the mods below.

 

- LOAD ORDER (!) (!)

- Always move Ivy's load order ABOVE the Armor Extended mod.

 

- The Tactical Distraction System

This mod could interfere with a cinematic that Ivy has inside Hallucigen HeadQuarters.

Place Ivy ABOVE this mod in the load order.

 

In case you're new to modding FO4:

 

Just whatever you do, don't trust LOOT to place her .esp in the best order slot (or any other FO4 mod, for that matter, unless you have a very light LO). Also, this guide: Fallout 4 Mod List and Load Order Guide (BiRaitBec Modlist) is sure to take your game to 11. No, really. It's been an awesome resource for me, and my game looks fantastic!

 

Check the Database article under the Articles tab. The mods highlighted in green are better candidates for using with Ivy by virtue of being better made. Most mods in red or orange are mods you'll want to avoid for a more stable game, and are a better bet to cause issues with Ivy if one were to do so. Some are red because they're incompatible with other mods in his guide, so keep that in mind too. It's not a be-all end-all, Ivy-centric list, of course, but it's a better place to start than flying blind when considering a mod for Ivy. I've tried most of them with Ivy and haven't ran into any glaring issues. 

 

My issue is when following this guide, it places Armorsmith Extended high in the LO, and thus putting Ivy's .esp high in the LO as well if following the above recommendation for it. AE is still an optional mod, sure, but some great mods depend on it. Good news is, that won't matter as much with Ivy 5.0 .esm, so there's that.

 

But for now, if you use NMM or Vortex as a MM it's a trade off. Since using MO2 as an MM, I can now run Ivy's .esp above AE in the right pane, and load her assets low in the left so they have priority over anything that can overwrite them causing issues or missed dialogue. Since switching, I personally haven't noticed anything weird with running Ivy's assets below AEs since switching to MO2, but that doesn't mean issues aren't there. Reg recommends this for a reason and would know better than anyone. Then again I believe he uses NMM which does not allow for loading .esps and assets separately, and this could be the difference? Fuck if I know... But it works for me.

I still run Atomic Lust, so I can give her a smooch or a hug whenever I want! As for AAF compatibility, she works with all the NSFW mods too; personally tested and confirmed... <cough> for science, of course... Sleep Intimate works well too for immersion when sleeping with Ivy. It also has a NSFW option independent of AAF, but is also compatible with AAF if that's your thing. Guide for AAF: AAF: A Comprehensive Installation Guide and Resource Collection [WIP]

 

Not sure if updates to these mods have changed anything, as I haven't ran them in a while. But they should be fine and interact with her like any other NPC as they have in the past for me. Everyone's Best friend does work with Ivy, who she comments on here and there if you run with him. Then there's any one of Flashy's RSE mods (highly recommended, btw) for a bit of immersion and other shenanigans and whatnot; you'll laugh, you'll cry...  or get the nuclear clap... or maybe catch NPCs screwing in an alley... all in good fun! ?

 

It really just depends on what you're into.

 

Ivy uses whatever body type and textures you have loaded. As for me, it's FSM, and Fusion Girl (there are compatible!). If your married to CBBE, that's cool too, she'll use whatever preset you set for her in Bodyslide. It's really your preference.

 

As for where you should not take her...

 

Spoiler

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should you teleport Ivy into one of the test cells. This will cause her to become sentient and aware of her surroundings as virtual character. I don't know where this dialogue came from. It's unique, she created it herself. I tried to take it out but it doesn't work. Just don't COC into one of the test chambers and teleport her in, is all I can say.

 

Have fun with Ivy!

[LaraCrott]

Why are the chick geek links are dead?

What happened to her?

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

5 hours ago, Sevatt said:

- Always move Ivy's load order ABOVE the Armor Extended mod.

Uuuuhhhhh...

Oops.

5 hours ago, Sevatt said:

I still run Atomic Lust, so I can give her a smooch or a hug whenever I want! As for AAF compatibility, she works with all the NSFW mods too; personally tested and confirmed... <cough> for science, of course... Sleep Intimate works well too for immersion when sleeping with Ivy. It also has a NSFW option independent of AAF, but is also compatible with AAF if that's your thing.

She doesn't quite work flawlessly with AAF/workshop stuff forcing settlers/followers to stay put.
Since they usually use AI package overrides, it can break her AI for a while until she gets herself sorted out, and often need to travel back and forth a bit to get her workin again.

Especially when they're overriding her, when she goes to/wants to use one of the 'mini-scenes' she'll do, for location-based dialogue, walkin up to specific points and sayin shit.

 

That said, otherwise works quite well, particularly with SEU.

1 hour ago, GFBMMC said:

Why are the chick geek links are dead?

What happened to her?

Been that way since well before her last post here in July.

Not too sure why, but if I had to guess, privacy-related. Won't know until or unless she comments on it one way or another.

[Sevatt]

1 hour ago, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

Uuuuhhhhh...

Oops.

She doesn't quite work flawlessly with AAF/workshop stuff forcing settlers/followers to stay put.
Since they usually use AI package overrides, it can break her AI for a while until she gets herself sorted out, and often need to travel back and forth a bit to get her workin again.

Especially when they're overriding her, when she goes to/wants to use one of the 'mini-scenes' she'll do, for location-based dialogue, walkin up to specific points and sayin shit.

 

That said, otherwise works quite well, particularly with SEU.

Been that way since well before her last post here in July.

Not too sure why, but if I had to guess, privacy-related. Won't know until or unless she comments on it one way or another.

Haha you're not alone, man. I did a couple play throughs with her at the botton of my LO when I used NMM and Vortex.

 

Far as AAF, shit I just learned something. I did notice her delaying to interject in scenes a while back (mainly with Preston, i.e. "Aw c'mon, another one!??"), but chalked it up to a large load order and it just went away after a while... Come to think of it, it was about the time the AAF novelty wore off ... I know, I'm a bit late putting 2 and 2 together lol...

 

Anyway, thanks for the reply and pro tip. I may scrap AAF altogether, since it messes with her like you mentioned. And if it fucks with Ivy, it's pretty much insta-shit canned since she's the only reason I have any interest in FO4 these days. We'll see how it treats her with an .esm.

 

So close to 5.0... I can hardly wait ? But all in good time, man, all in good time.

[Reginald_001]

3 minutes ago, Sevatt said:

Haha you're not alone, man. I did a couple play throughs with her at the botton of my LO when I used NMM and Vortex.

 

Far as AAF, shit I just learned something. I did notice her delaying to interject in scenes a while back (mainly with Preston, i.e. "Aw c'mon, another one!??"), but chalked it up to a large load order and it just went away after a while... Come to think of it, it was about the time the AAF novelty wore off ... I know, I'm a bit late putting 2 and 2 together lol...

 

Anyway, thanks for the reply and pro tip. I may scrap AAF altogether, since it messes with her like you mentioned. And if it fucks with Ivy, it's pretty much insta-shit canned since she's the only reason I have any interest in FO4 these days. We'll see how it treats her with an .esm.

 

So close to 5.0... I can hardly wait ? But all in good time, man, all in good time.

AAF shouldn't interfere with Ivy. (But I never installed it, t.b.h.)

 

And that Interjection bug.. it's an Ivy bug! (I ran into it and fixed in 5.0).

5.0 really should be far more compatible and easy to use.. (I hope)..

[DontBlnkBadWolf]

22 hours ago, bishlapped said:

OH DAMN!!!!

Am I that old where the old reference to "broken record" is starting to become lost?

I am that old. Though records are making a comeback, so maybe that saying will return.

[DontBlnkBadWolf]

On 9/6/2019 at 1:40 PM, Reginald_001 said:

I also couldn't really choose a side between all the factions, I liked none of them so I always stayed alone; never becoming a Jarl anywhere, or doing the town quests either to become affiliated with them.

There are broken mods out there that makes you the King of Skyrim. If someone would fix them, then I might be interested in fully playing Skyrim. If you are the Dragonborn, why can't you be King of Skyrim? You can overpower anyone in the game so it should be an option.

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, DontBlnkBadWolf said:

There are broken mods out there that makes you the King of Skyrim. If someone would fix them, then I might be interested in fully playing Skyrim. If you are the Dragonborn, why can't you be King of Skyrim? You can overpower anyone in the game so it should be an option.

Yep. Dragonborn makes grandest entrance ever...shows up at the Moot on Dragon-back and gives the shortest speech ever to win a unanimous vote for High King of Skyrim.

 

 

"GOL HA DOV"

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

5 hours ago, Sevatt said:

Far as AAF, shit I just learned something. I did notice her delaying to interject in scenes a while back (mainly with Preston, i.e. "Aw c'mon, another one!??"), but chalked it up to a large load order and it just went away after a while... Come to think of it, it was about the time the AAF novelty wore off ... I know, I'm a bit late putting 2 and 2 together lol...

 

Anyway, thanks for the reply and pro tip. I may scrap AAF altogether, since it messes with her like you mentioned. And if it fucks with Ivy, it's pretty much insta-shit canned since she's the only reason I have any interest in FO4 these days. We'll see how it treats her with an .esm.

Hah, yeah, the delay you can also reduce by changing the default walk time-outs in the AAF_settings.ini, but she'll still have a bit of a 'oh wait, I'm supposed to be goin this way', but it's much better.

From what I've seen @Reginald_001 mention, she should be much better with it in her 5.0 state.
Plus, once there's some integration [probably additional plugin from someone], she'll be quite a lot more self-aware of scenes and such from AAF.
Speaking of while I've you pinged Reg, most of the 'integration' with AAF is gunna be taking what you've got, and adding additional checks/listening for AAF-related calls, isn't it? Reminds me, need to ask 'bout AAF's companion-related stuff, see if it's actually necessary to use that 'unlimited companion framework' [EFF.esp/esm]. Guess it won't matter once there's integration, but ?‍♀️ moar knowledge

[maddadicusrex]

10 hours ago, GFBMMC said:

Why are the chick geek links are dead?

What happened to her?

Sometimes notoriety does not play well with real life. Just a guess, but hopefully she is in a happy state..

[Reginald_001]

2 hours ago, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

Speaking of while I've you pinged Reg, most of the 'integration' with AAF is gunna be taking what you've got, and adding additional checks/listening for AAF-related calls, isn't it? Reminds me, need to ask 'bout AAF's companion-related stuff, see if it's actually necessary to use that 'unlimited companion framework' [EFF.esp/esm]. Guess it won't matter once there's integration, but ?‍♀️ moar knowledge

The best route would be to make a specific AAF plugin for Ivy, so you can integrate with existing dialogue.

But much more on modding for Ivy will be released when I release an example ESP and modding guide.

[DontBlnkBadWolf]

14 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

Sometimes notoriety does not play well with real life. Just a guess, but hopefully she is in a happy state..

From what I understand @ChicGeek

is content with her lack of noterity as she made it. Only random comments of love on Ivy's site, where we all enjoy & await a comment from the beautiful mind she has.