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7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

With this poor information is hardly say what's wrong. maybe you forgot instal some SSE skse64, papyrus, prison chains fixes. Need HDT SMP for physics to remove many CTD. Also if you use a controller you need install controller fix.

I'll post those if the error re-occurs, as for the stuff, I had all of it, and I did not use the controller.

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On 5/25/2020 at 3:29 PM, Wallet said:

Is it normal to have just random messages like "the bound girl blushes as you put on the chastity belt", or "you push the plug into the bound girl" ? Not exactly those words, but you get the gist. 

I keep randomly getting them when I loot something or open a container.

Just an update. 

I think it's related to the chloe quest.  

Started a new game and ignored the letter about Chloe and didn't do her quest and didn't recieve the random messages. Also didn't have a problem fast traveling like I did when I was getting the random messages. 

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1 hour ago, Wallet said:

Just an update. 

I think it's related to the chloe quest.  

Started a new game and ignored the letter about Chloe and didn't do her quest and didn't recieve the random messages. Also didn't have a problem fast traveling like I did when I was getting the random messages. 

There are bound girls added randomly to various places in skyrim that are not at all related to the chloe quest. any message with "bound girls" are these, not chloe. If you set these bound girls to zero in the mcm, there will be no messages related to them. otherwise, it's normal for the messages to be seen randomly, even when you are not near a bound girl.

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10 hours ago, zarantha said:

There are bound girls added randomly to various places in skyrim that are not at all related to the chloe quest. any message with "bound girls" are these, not chloe. If you set these bound girls to zero in the mcm, there will be no messages related to them. otherwise, it's normal for the messages to be seen randomly, even when you are not near a bound girl.

Then explain how I havent got a single message about bound girls when I didn't start the chloe quest? Played this save for 8 hours and had 0 messages, while on the save that I started the chloe quest on, I had about 4 messages about bound girls in an hour. 

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1 hour ago, Wallet said:

Then explain how I havent got a single message about bound girls when I didn't start the chloe quest? Played this save for 8 hours and had 0 messages, while on the save that I started the chloe quest on, I had about 4 messages about bound girls in an hour. 

Bound girls existed before the chloe quest was introduced, and chloe is not a bound girl - she's a unique NPC, not a random NPC named bound girl. I don't care for getting the messages or seeing the bound girls, so I disabled the option.  What do you have set for bound girls in the mcm on each game? You can save your settings for later use, but it is possible to have different settings on different saves. The settings aren't dynamically synced.

 

Also, do you show as in a quest in the debug menu on both games? many things in DCL are disabled when in a quest. it could be allowed for the chloe quest, but disabled for other DCL quests.

 

I also don't know every factor involved in triggering bound girl event. If you want details on that, ask in the LE thread. This is unlikely to be an SE only thing, so if you think you have a bug, the LE thread is a better place to report it.

 

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8 hours ago, Wallet said:

got a single message about bound girls

This is known harmless bug and Kimy knows about it and try fix it. And even if i see that message i don't care about it but read this message make my heart happy)

 

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Okay, so the bug is back. In essence after installing Cursed Loot, the game will CTD when loading an save, new game seems to work fine, until I save and load the save. I've installed all the bug fixes provided in threads, attaching all the related stuff aswell. Any help would be appreciated.

Papyrus.0.logPapyrus.1.logModList_2020-05-29T02-40-48.txtLoadOrder_SkyrimSE_2020-05-29T02-41-11.txt

Edit: Adding another log Crash_2020_5_29_11-26-54.txt

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3 hours ago, Tex said:

Okay, so the bug is back. In essence after installing Cursed Loot, the game will CTD when loading an save, new game seems to work fine, until I save and load the save. I've installed all the bug fixes provided in threads, attaching all the related stuff aswell. Any help would be appreciated.

Papyrus.0.log 80.45 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.1.log 80.18 kB · 0 downloads ModList_2020-05-29T02-40-48.txt 14.62 kB · 1 download LoadOrder_SkyrimSE_2020-05-29T02-41-11.txt 3.22 kB · 1 download

Use either ZAZ 7 or ZAZ 8, not both.

Rerun FNIS - any errors? how many animations do you have?

If you use a controller, did you grab the controller script fix?

If you install .NET Script Framework, do you get a crash log? This is better for troubleshooting CTDs than the papyrus logs. Papyrus only catches the last event, not what caused the CTD. only rarely are they the same.

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3 hours ago, zarantha said:

Use either ZAZ 7 or ZAZ 8, not both.

Rerun FNIS - any errors? how many animations do you have?

If you use a controller, did you grab the controller script fix?

If you install .NET Script Framework, do you get a crash log? This is better for troubleshooting CTDs than the papyrus logs. Papyrus only catches the last event, not what caused the CTD. only rarely are they the same.

Okay, fixing ZAZ part right now, FNIS will be attached in spoilers.

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FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   29-May-20 9:33:02 AM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Installing FNIS PCEA2
Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...     ChAnims:303     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...     ChAnims:145     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:136     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:185     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:467     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:898     CTD:5.3%     pOpt:1.2%
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:509     CTD:3.4%     pOpt:1.0%
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...     ChAnims:220     CTD:1.4%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...     ChAnims:145     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:86     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...     ChAnims:285     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...     ChAnims:190     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...     ChAnims:100     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:461     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.7%
Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ...     ChAnims:200     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...     ChAnims:130     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:635(493)     CTD:11.2%     pOpt:1.0%
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:330(330)     CTD:9.3%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...     ChAnims:102(102)     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:410     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.9%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:39     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V7.2 ...     ChAnims:256(256)     CTD:5.4%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizAmp V8.0 ...     ChAnims:55     CTD:0.4%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ...     ChAnims:90     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...     ChAnims:180     CTD:1.1%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ...     ChAnims:146     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ...     ChAnims:85     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...     ChAnims:334     CTD:2.0%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...     ChAnims:471     CTD:3.0%     pOpt:0.8%
Reading FunnyBizGuro V5.0 ...     ChAnims:108     CTD:0.7%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ...     ChAnims:156     CTD:1.0%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...     ChAnims:45     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ...     ChAnims:339     CTD:2.1%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ...     ChAnims:442     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.7%
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...     ChAnims:310     CTD:1.9%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...     ChAnims:590     CTD:3.6%     pOpt:0.9%
Reading K4Anims V1.0 ...     ChAnims:132     CTD:1.6%     pOpt:1.0%
        NOTE: K4Anims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line
Reading milkypack V1.8 ...     ChAnims:235     CTD:2.9%     pOpt:1.8%
        NOTE: milkypack has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line
Reading MME V6.07 ...     ChAnims:52     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:107     CTD:0.7%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ...     ChAnims:16     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:259     CTD:1.6%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ...     ChAnims:148     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading ProxyAnims V1.0 ...     ChAnims:48     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading RZAPO V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLab V1.63 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SexualVampireFeedAnimations V1.0 ...     ChAnims:102     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...     ChAnims:14     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading testpack V1.0 ...     ChAnims:294     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...     ChAnims:1669     CTD:7.9%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...     ChAnims:42     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading znarokspack V1.0 ...     ChAnims:61     CTD:0.4%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading zzEstrus
>>Warning: Inconsistent mod zzEstrus. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (324) and corresponding behavior file (312)<<
 V2.50 ...     ChAnims:337(12)     CTD:3.8%     pOpt:0.2%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female
Alternate Animation mods: 6 sets: 69 total groups: 205 added file slots: 1759 alternate files: 1357

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V?.? ...
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...

 15029 animations for 65 mods successfully included (character).
ChAnims: 15029  CTD:114.9%  pOpt:21.6%  max: 13080  LC: 30061 (max. 26162)

>>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<<
You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools:
  Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only)
  Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit.
  But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0")
 5028 animations for 18 mods and 45 creatures successfully included..
 2 Warning(s).

Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFA for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFB for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFC for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFD for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFE for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFF for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFG for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFH for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFI for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZAPCHorFJ for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_13 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMBoundFurn_14 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_01 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_02 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_03 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_04 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_05 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_06 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_07 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_08 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_09 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_10 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_11 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Duplicate AnimEvent ZaZMOMFreeFurn_12 for character, mods MME and ZaZAnimationPack
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S51.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S52.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S53.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S61.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S62.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S63.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S64.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S65.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S66.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S67.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S68.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S69.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S6A.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S6B.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S6C.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S71.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S72.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S73.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S81.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S82.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S83.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S84.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S85.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S86.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S87.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S88.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S89.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S8A.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S8B.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S8C.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S91.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S911.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S912.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S913.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S91E.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S92.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S921.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S922.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S923.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S92E.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S93.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S931.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S932.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S933.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S93E.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S98.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01S99.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01E1.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01E2.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01E4.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01E6.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
Missing AnimFile zzEstrusTrap01E8.hkx for character, mod zzEstrus
 88 possible consistence issues

 

I do not use a controller, so no I didn't touch that.

And here is the .Net log.Crash_2020_5_29_9-40-22.txt

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11 minutes ago, Tex said:

Okay, fixing ZAZ part right now,

There is answer in your fnis log:

>>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<<

 

Solution: Remove animations or i heard there is fix to get unlimited animations.

Edited: When load a save - Skyrim Sexlab mod reinstall all animations - because it's crash in that process.

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26 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

There is answer in your fnis log:

>>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<<

 

Solution: Remove animations or i heard there is fix to get unlimited animations.

Edited: When load a save - Skyrim Sexlab mod reinstall all animations - because it's crash in that process.

I have the extender, should handle up to 32k anims while I'm at 5028, the FNIS pluggin simply doesn't recognize that, as it warns once you launch it.

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25 minutes ago, Tex said:

I have the extender, should handle up to 32k anims while I'm at 5028

I don't understand why need so many animations but that's not my problem.

Anyway as more animations as more unstable Skyrim. One time i enter in game console to get id from hobledress and as save loaded i see in console that sexlab have errors to initialize a animations. After when i get it (id) i check console and see that sexlab reinitialize all animations now correct. And i have only zaz8 as animations. I like to only say that when many animations in load process need more time to get all animations work and because maybe CTD if time isn't enough. But you need wait what says others about your situations with CTD.

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Just now, Elsidia said:

I don't know why need so many animations but that's not my problem.

Anyway as more animations as more unstable Skyrim. One time i enter in game console to get id from hobledress and as save loaded i see in console that sexlab have errors to initialize a animations. After when i get it (id) i check console and see that sexlab reinitialize all animations now correct. And i have only zaz8 as animations. I like to only say that when many animations in load process need more time to get all animations work and because maybe CTD if time isn't enough. But you need wait what says others about your situations with CTD.

I did consider that, but it's odd that the game works fine without CL, and CL only adds a few animations, I honestly expect it to be my load order.

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32 minutes ago, Tex said:

CL

CL? Or DCL?

If DCL i think i can answer on that question: in DCL is animations what trigger on aroused status. When you load save and in that moment goes animation reinitialize DCL don't know about this and can try start some DCL aroused animation. If this animation is incorrectly initialized or no initialize it can probably ends with CTD. And i found that those events mostly is saved in save: if you save at moment when DCL wants to do animation then in next load it do this animation.

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37 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

CL? Or DCL?

If DCL i think i can answer on that question: in DCL is animations what trigger on aroused status. When you load save and in that moment goes animation reinitialize DCL don't know about this and can try start some DCL aroused animation. If this animation is incorrectly initialized or no initialize it can probably ends with CTD. And i found that those events mostly is saved in save: if you save at moment when DCL wants to do animation then in next load it do this animation.

DCL yeah, though I'm not sure what's causing the CTD's anymore.

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33 minutes ago, Tex said:

I'm not sure what's causing

Can confuse you more)

When I don't have controller fix - one time when i save a game after load it CTD. After 3 load it not CTD and i see DD struggle animation. In that way i figure out that CTD sometimes can got by DD start animations (maybe aroused DD anime play not sure it's long time ago) on save load. When i fix controller - then no more CTD on load. I always use game-pad (controller) to play.

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So I am attempting to update from v 8.3 to 8.5, I did what I normally do to update which is just uninstall the old version then install the new version and no problem, but that crashed every time, same thing with v 8.4. So I tried doing a full clean save.

Uninstall v8.3 load skyring > save > clean with fallrim tools > load fallrim save > save again > load with 8.5. But I cant get the cursed loot menu to show, (even with setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1)

EDIT: I also tried going to the Dollmaker's shop and I cant start any of the quests. The NPCs are there and the dialog works but none of the quests actaully start and no devices equipped.

EDIT 2: I am trying to upgrade because the DCL events are not working any more for me, if an event triggers it simply just attempts to equip 6+ of the same device to me. So I think it might the DCL itself which is bork'd; a real shame since it is my fav mod and this save is 80+ hours old.

Any tips?

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45 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Can confuse you more)

When I don't have controller fix - one time when i save a game after load it CTD. After 3 load it not CTD and i see DD struggle animation. In that way i figure out that CTD sometimes can got by DD start animations (maybe aroused DD anime play not sure it's long time ago) on save load. When i fix controller - then no more CTD on load. I always use game-pad (controller) to play.

Well, it could deffinetly be something animation related, (skee64.dll+151B5), as per topic. I'll mess around and see if I can track down the culprit.

 

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Hi Just upgrades to 8.4 and now the character model T poses. FNIS had this warning - >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_Deviously Cursed Loot_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<.

 

I have the latest ZAP, DD and body (CBBE, XPMSSE, Race menu, etc).

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