Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, viperfan7 said:

I think there might be an issue with Complete alchemy and cooking overhaul, as it wasn't detecting I had any salt in my inventory

 

Since that mod changes salt itself, yes, it could be a problem. It's been years since I used caco (due to having to patch everyfuckingthing for it), but there should be an option in caco's mcm somewhere to use normal salt instead of portioning it.

 

 

[viperfan7]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Since that mod changes salt itself, yes, it could be a problem. It's been years since I used caco (due to having to patch everyfuckingthing for it), but there should be an option in caco's mcm somewhere to use normal salt instead of portioning it.

 

 

 

Yeah I was thinking that may have been why, thought I'd post it here for awareness.

[nos.eea]

im always getting locked in 5 pieces of restraints despite my settings not allowing this, i have no idea why ive been through my settings like 5 times and they are the same from another character

[Starphyre]

Oops

 

I was in the middle of the Bound Queen quest, and decided it'd be nice to have the bonuses from the set while doing Cidna Mine. 

 

Don't do this, it breaks the Bound Queen quest. My effects screen only show like a couple of the buffs from the pieces. My inventory shows me wearing everything, but there's no graphic (I'm wearing the supplied tunic and if I take it off I'm naked.)  The plugs I put in before picking up the last piece of queen sarah's set are still equipped, as are the iron ring slave boots I was wearing. If I click on a piece of Queen Sarah's gear, it's treated as if I'm trying to put it on. (which since I don't have the key yet, of course it won't let me.)

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, nos.eea said:

im always getting locked in 5 pieces of restraints despite my settings not allowing this

1) You are under 3 level, it overrides a settings.

2) It equips complicated restraint from events, what it is another setting page like full bondage set, slave rubber set etc.

[Seph64]

A few questions on trying to disable a few things from DCL.

 

Is there a way to disable DCL's "Prison Alternative" completely? (on AE) I tried selecting "use Vanilla Prisons" But that only tells the game for the guards to "rape" the player upon detaining and then it erases the bounty after the sex scene.

 

Is there a way to tell DCL to not equip DCL specific restraints? Otherwise I'll just have to disable the DCL events from the mod completely and rely on other mods for similar effects.

 

I would uninstall DCL completely, but I like DCL's Gag Talk system.

[threp]

1 hour ago, Seph64 said:

A few questions on trying to disable a few things from DCL.

 

Is there a way to disable DCL's "Prison Alternative" completely? (on AE) I tried selecting "use Vanilla Prisons" But that only tells the game for the guards to "rape" the player upon detaining and then it erases the bounty after the sex scene.

I use POP and set the chance for that in the DCL consequences menu to 100%. But if you don't want yet another mod, you could try ticking use vanilla AND set arrest chance to 100%, the other choices to 0%. I think by default for arrest is very low and the options are either/or choices. You won;t get raped and arrested.

1 hour ago, Seph64 said:

 

Is there a way to tell DCL to not equip DCL specific restraints? Otherwise I'll just have to disable the DCL events from the mod completely and rely on other mods for similar effects.

Standard events only until level 100 in the misc options setting, Ultra tight and high security to 0 in the in the events section. You might get the odd normal binding (heavy gag harness, transparent rubber boots which both use normal keys) added by DCL, but you won't get any of the needs specific keys or fuck to release items.

1 hour ago, Seph64 said:

 

I would uninstall DCL completely, but I like DCL's Gag Talk system.

 

Edited May 23, 2025 by threp
clarity and spelling

[Seph64]

1 hour ago, threp said:

I use POP and set the chance for that in the DCL consequences menu to 100%. But if you don't want yet another mod, you could try ticking use vanilla AND set arrest chance to 100%, the other choices to 0%. I think by default for arrest is very low and the options are either/or choices. You won;t get raped and arrested.

 

I was wondering what you are talking about until I read "consequences", but I meant the Prison Settings in Misc Options. The Prison alternative dialogue pops up for all crimes, even for those unrelated to Public Indecency. THAT is what I want to turn off. Though I think I will turn off the Public Indecency stuff as well.

 

The DCL Prison Alternate dialogue pops up even if I have "Use Vanilla Prisons" option selected.

 

EDIT 2: Even with "Arrest chance" in consequences set to 100 with all other options set to 0, the arrest dialogue still not working as intended. LAst arrest attempt go me locked in a whore collar. (public indecency is set to 0 along with it's related options). So I guess it's broken.

Edited May 23, 2025 by Seph64

[Starphyre]

On 4/23/2025 at 1:37 AM, Elsidia said:

No there is additional quests. In DCL 10.0

 

isn't the current version 9.0.7?

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Seph64 said:

I was wondering what you are talking about until I read "consequences", but I meant the Prison Settings in Misc Options. The Prison alternative dialogue pops up for all crimes, even for those unrelated to Public Indecency. THAT is what I want to turn off. Though I think I will turn off the Public Indecency stuff as well.

 

This can't be disabled, it was confirmed by kimy some time ago. And if you overwrite it, arrests will break. The only options are to disable DCL completely, or to deal with it and disable DCL's prison system via the methods threp mentioned.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Starphyre said:

 

isn't the current version 9.0.7?

 

9.0, yes. The .7 is part of the extension - .7z

 

More quests are planned to finish out the bound in skyrim quest chain in the next version, which elsidia is assuming will be 10.0.

[Seph64]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

This can't be disabled, it was confirmed by kimy some time ago. And if you overwrite it, arrests will break. The only options are to disable DCL completely, or to deal with it and disable DCL's prison system via the methods threp mentioned.

 

It seems to be already broken, because I did what was stated, and it still chooses outcomes other than arrests.

 

Guess I will just have to uninstall DCL and put up with the vanilla Gag speak system (unless I find a different mod that's better).

[Firch50]

Hello there, i've just installed this awesome mod.

Still have a question tough : is there an option in the MCM to unable the event where when my character has high arousal, she wants to tie herself up, and proceed to do so ?

 

I find it a bit annoying when exploring, but couldn't see the option in the MCM.

 

Thanks for your help.

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, Firch50 said:

is there an option in the MCM to unable the event where when my character has high arousal, she wants to tie herself up,

 

2 hours ago, wpgartist said:

to ask other npcs if they want to be restrained.

Those settings was removed to free MCM (it's almost full for MCM engine) Those options left as variables.  You can export settings, change variables manually in text editor and import back.

[Firch50]

4 hours ago, Elsidia said:

 

Those settings was removed to free MCM (it's almost full for MCM engine) Those options left as variables.  You can export settings, change variables manually in text editor and import back.

Thanks for your response. Do you perhaps know how to export these settings please ?

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, Firch50 said:

Thanks for your response. Do you perhaps know how to export these settings please ?

 

Export should be on the debug page of the MCM.

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

Export should be on the debug page of the MCM.

Yes, I use DCL’s Export and Import features all the time, and they work very well.

[Seph64]

On 5/25/2025 at 5:42 PM, Firch50 said:

Hello there, i've just installed this awesome mod.

Still have a question tough : is there an option in the MCM to unable the event where when my character has high arousal, she wants to tie herself up, and proceed to do so ?

 

I find it a bit annoying when exploring, but couldn't see the option in the MCM.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Isn't the Self-Bondage options in the Consequences page?

 

On 5/23/2025 at 2:41 PM, zarantha said:

 

9.0, yes. The .7 is part of the extension - .7z

 

More quests are planned to finish out the bound in skyrim quest chain in the next version, which elsidia is assuming will be 10.0.

 

Really? DCL is getting a new update soon(ish)? After 4 years of it being on a hiatus? Any idea if there's gonna be any performance improvements? Seems like DCL 9.0 SE was the source of a lot of the "stutter" issues I had in the open world, even on low-performance mode.

Edited May 26, 2025 by Seph64

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, Seph64 said:

Really? DCL is getting

In reality i think Kimy drop development due to some real time life issues.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Seph64 said:

 

Really? DCL is getting a new update soon(ish)? After 4 years of it being on a hiatus?

 

 

No, that's the last status we had after DD 5.2 dropped just over 2 years ago.

The plan was to work on DCL next, to update it for the changes done in DD 5.2 and to finish off the quests. But as elsidia mentioned, it's likely real life has happened to derail those plans kimy had.

[Herowynne]

14 hours ago, Seph64 said:

Seems like DCL 9.0 SE was the source of a lot of the "stutter" issues I had in the open world, even on low-performance mode.

Please tell me more about this.

 

After switching from Unforgiving Devices 2.1.1 to 3.0, I am now seeing half-second freezes when running in the open world. These freezes occur when crossing exterior cell boundaries.

 

Through a process of elimination, I determined that the problem occurs with the combination of DCL 9.0 and UD 3.0.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2025 by Herowynne

[Seph64]

The half-second freezes I experience happen every few seconds for me, and it might actually be connected to UD.

 

I've completely uninstalled DCL because of these freezes/stutters, and the fact that the last time I had a DCL event, I was locked in a device UD couldn't recognize, even in the debug menu. So I had to basically go back to an earlier save. That's when I decided to remove DCL from my install. Removing UD from my install is not an option I want to consider, because I dislike the RNG of the old mechanic from DD.

 

It would be wonderful if DCL could be updated and were more compatible with UD, but alas, does not seem like it's in the cards.

[Omnishade]

Is it possible to change or disable the expression during cover animation? It's so off-putting to me that I disable the feature completely.

[Starphyre]

Ok. I was about to post here and ask if anyone had some advice as I haven't had a DCL event trigger since I finished the cursed collar. I was still finding keys, but no devices, and I could see the messages from the mod about looting X container and there was a certain percent chance of triggering a DCL event. (Arousal threshold set at 35, I keep Muffy's arousal around 70, for the buffs)

 

But then tonight I installed Serana Dialog Add-on, and it seems dumb to think this could be the cause, but all of a sudden I'm not seeing those loot messages. I've only been playing a half hour, so I can't say I'm not getting keys when I loot, but I haven't seen any yet.

 

People still have the (solicitation/Restraints/Shopping quest) options in their dialog. so IDK what's up, 

 

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

 

Edit: Apparently the dialog add-on is blocking serana from advancing the solicitation and restraint options, She still gives me the shopping quest.  I had planned to just test and not save, but the guard captain in Raven Rock paid me 10 grand for the solicitation test, so yeah, I'm keeping that, lol

Edited June 2, 2025 by Starphyre

[Gudulba]

On 5/27/2025 at 4:47 PM, Seph64 said:

The half-second freezes I experience happen every few seconds for me, and it might actually be connected to UD.

 

I've completely uninstalled DCL because of these freezes/stutters, and the fact that the last time I had a DCL event, I was locked in a device UD couldn't recognize, even in the debug menu. So I had to basically go back to an earlier save. That's when I decided to remove DCL from my install. Removing UD from my install is not an option I want to consider, because I dislike the RNG of the old mechanic from DD.

 

It would be wonderful if DCL could be updated and were more compatible with UD, but alas, does not seem like it's in the cards.

As I am experiencing something similar and would like to troubleshoot it: did the freezes vanish when you enabled "Shut down all functions" on the Cursed Loot MCM debug page? Or did you have to uninstall DCL or UD or both for the freezes to vanish?

Edited June 2, 2025 by Gudulba