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Posted
2 hours ago, zarantha said:

I haven't heard enough to complaints to think

This thing not complain so much as i think

1) because full set is rare event or even no one recognize that is not work or turn off full set equipping.

2) This bug happens mostly on fast PC or Skyrim, what is light modded. If you have many mods it's slows down CPU and DD have time to equip all sets. Natural delay.

 

Also this bug make a second invisible bug when after this procedure spawns in inventory invisible rendered devices, what's locks chance to equip this device later. If you play long time and have all possible rendered devices from DD or DCL in inventory - no one DD item not will be equip by scripts or manually. Natural defense from DCL traps)

Also i already post video post in this thread about it.

 

I fix both problems for me by recompile scripts, but only for me.

But anyway i agree that we need toss cards in Kimy size and wait what she done with this bug.

Depend on scripts original text she takes off delay from previous version and mark this as fix for duplicate inventory device. And yes it fix it (but only partially - on fast PC it's send equip signal for arm cuffs and in next cycle it's check if arm cuffs is equipped. As equip process still run (rendered device) - then game thinks that arm cuffs not equipped and spawn new arms cuffs and send new equip signal.  This process repeat so long while resolves first equip signal for rendered device and other signals duplicate rendered devices into your inventory. Also as equip cycle have count this count now is less for duplicate items equipped and more that equip chastity belt it's not gone. Because you got 3 or 4 arm cuffs in inventory and no one suit on you.), but start duplicate rendered devices what is depend on new DD 5.0 equip system more worse. Also she hopes that new DD equip system is more fast as it in reality. Because this bug happen.

 

Sorry of so complicated sentence i try to explain as easy i can. But i'm too complicated person and no one can't understand me(

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

This thing not complain so much as i think

1) because full set is rare event or even no one recognize that is not work or turn off full set equipping.

2) This bug happens mostly on fast PC or Skyrim, what is light modded. If you have many mods it's slows down CPU and DD have time to equip all sets. Natural delay.

 

Also this bug make a second invisible bug when after this procedure spawns in inventory invisible rendered devices, what's locks chance to equip this device later. If you play long time and have all possible rendered devices from DD or DCL in inventory - no one DD item not will be equip by scripts or manually. Natural defense from DCL traps)

Also i already post video post in this thread about it.

 

I fix both problems for me by recompile scripts, but only for me.

But anyway i agree that we need toss cards in Kimy size and wait what she done with this bug.

Depend on scripts original text she takes off delay from previous version and mark this as fix for duplicate inventory device. And yes it fix it (but only partially - on fast PC it's send equip signal for arm cuffs and in next cycle it's check if arm cuffs is equipped. As equip process still run (rendered device) - then game thinks that arm cuffs not equipped and spawn new arms cuffs and send new equip signal.  This process repeat so long while resolves first equip signal for rendered device and other signals duplicate rendered devices into your inventory. Also as equip cycle have count this count now is less for duplicate items equipped and more that equip chastity belt it's not gone. Because you got 3 or 4 arm cuffs in inventory and no one suit on you.), but start duplicate rendered devices what is depend on new DD 5.0 equip system more worse. Also she hopes that new DD equip system is more fast as it in reality. Because this bug happen.

 

Sorry of so complicated sentence i try to explain as easy i can. But i'm too complicated person and no one can't understand me(

 

Yes this makes sense, and explain some strange behaviour I was experiencing in the past. I have yet to test if this was also related to the minigame in the riverwood club where i would often get duplicates of the collar or the cuffs, basically giving me a free round.

I'll have to investigate more when I have time.

 

However it's true that it's kinda hard to notice. I noticed the problem because i was using the 'tie me up' debug to solve another issue, and i could not figure out what was causing the mod to equip just half of the items, otherwise i would have misses it as well.

Posted
24 minutes ago, abcdefghilmn said:

i would often get duplicates of the collar or the cuffs, basically giving me a free round.

Probably not. There is some more DCL equip procedures what is marked as fix in DCL and equip delay is taken off. For those all procedures i'm in script return this delay too.

UPD: And in theory there no rush to equip collar - because it's equip only one new items. Maybe there is something different.

 

 

Posted
On 5/6/2021 at 9:46 PM, Elsidia said:

When you found a key, /If you found it/ when you speak with Chloe it's release itself. You don't need interact with Chloe to free her.

I did find the key its in my inventory when i found her at the start before asking her to follow i spoke to her it did nothing only asked to follow

Posted
50 minutes ago, Keygain said:

I did find the key its in my inventory when i found her at the start before asking her to follow i spoke to her it did nothing only asked to follow

1) you find Chloe. 1st time you see her.

2) you speak with her and agree to free her.

3) there spawns a strong box (or how it's named), you go there and take key from it.

4) you go back to Chloe and speak with her again. It will free her from her bonds.

5) you have a quest to take Chloe as a follower.

6) you take Chloe as a follower. NFF don't break things.

7) you speak with Chloe again agreeing to help her with searching her things

8. you go to place where ashes says to tp through wall. HERE ASLAL CAN BREAK THINGS!!!

9) if it is (you have some message and then tp out of dungeon - go by aslal place where you did your end of aslal quest. Go to spiders. Maybe you will need to re-enter there, run here and there, but in some time you will see soldier that will have a note.

 

BTW, what is The Dollmaker sword? And what "powerful magic" it has on it?

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Gh0sTG0 said:

what is The Dollmaker sword?

Good thing at game start. With one hit women enemy, she was completely bind up and helpless. Be aware not to hit second time or follower hit her. It's break a things. After when she is completely bind (script need time to apply restraints) - speak with her and you can take her valuables, sell to slave trader or do another fancy things. And check is magic not empty or hit will not work)

Posted
2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Probably not. There is some more DCL equip procedures what is marked as fix in DCL and equip delay is taken off. For those all procedures i'm in script return this delay too.

UPD: And in theory there no rush to equip collar - because it's equip only one new items. Maybe there is something different.

 

 

that is indeed true. I'll see what I can find when I have some time

Posted
1 minute ago, nickscreta said:

Can anyone Help Me ?

First you need install DD SE 5.1 AIO, in installation process activate all plugins and then install a DCL SE 9.0

Posted
14 minutes ago, nickscreta said:

I am getting Some error as attached image.

Can anyone Help Me ?

 

The Error

 

Make sure DD 5.1 is installed. Then on the plugins section, make sure vortex activated the esms after you deploy the mod. DCL won't install if the esms are missing or not active.

Posted
3 hours ago, Gh0sTG0 said:

1) you find Chloe. 1st time you see her.

2) you speak with her and agree to free her.

3) there spawns a strong box (or how it's named), you go there and take key from it.

4) you go back to Chloe and speak with her again. It will free her from her bonds.

5) you have a quest to take Chloe as a follower.

6) you take Chloe as a follower. NFF don't break things.

7) you speak with Chloe again agreeing to help her with searching her things

8. you go to place where ashes says to tp through wall. HERE ASLAL CAN BREAK THINGS!!!

9) if it is (you have some message and then tp out of dungeon - go by aslal place where you did your end of aslal quest. Go to spiders. Maybe you will need to re-enter there, run here and there, but in some time you will see soldier that will have a note.

 

BTW, what is The Dollmaker sword? And what "powerful magic" it has on it?

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I already sorted it but thanks for the instructions i just Shutdown the mod in game saved disabled DCL in MO saved and re-enabled in MO and reset the mod to the Begining its fixed it i unlocked chloe fine this time and it might had been a bug with Helgen reborn

 

and the dollmaker equip it on your character and look in your magic affects it should tell you what it dose

 

Posted
53 minutes ago, Keygain said:

and the dollmaker equip it on your character and look in your magic affects it should tell you what it dose

 

Not a sword... Sword don't show in effects because it not affects *me*, it affects that one who I attack with it. I tried attacking but didn't see anything...

PS This sword is... Really not follower-friendly... Or you need to bind your follower's hands so she will not attack...

Posted
45 minutes ago, Valinski_the9 said:

the imperial guard stationed inside honningbrew with Chloe's package?

You don't need a NPC id, but NPC placed reference and it is 100DE979

Posted
19 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Nothing special at that point that I recall. It may be more chains, but I only did it once, and don't quite remember. If your framerate keeps dropping though, you might want to try with not using as much SMP. That's a well known framerate hog. I haven't heard of weather doing the same for anything / anywhere.

 

Try building non hdt chains to start. If that doesn't work, get rid of SMP hairs and any SMP clothing.

So I built all the noHDT chains and it worked. As there were only 10 of them, I added the HDT back in until it crashed, and it's the prisoner chains that's doing it. But since Chloe is also in them, it's not until the game has to deal with 2 sets (one on Chloe, and one on me) that it crashes. At least in my game.

 

And on the other issue, been playing a few hours and haven't had a framerate/focus issue since I disabled Dolomite. Very wierd.

Posted
34 minutes ago, Starphyre said:

So I built all the noHDT chains and it worked. As there were only 10 of them, I added the HDT back in until it crashed, and it's the prisoner chains that's doing it. But since Chloe is also in them, it's not until the game has to deal with 2 sets (one on Chloe, and one on me) that it crashes. At least in my game.

 

And on the other issue, been playing a few hours and haven't had a framerate/focus issue since I disabled Dolomite. Very wierd.

 

Prisoner chains are a PITA. For the most part, they 'work' as they are. Positioning was improved some and they don't crash for most people. Some people still see crashes and we haven't been able to trace it to what in the mesh causes the problem. Probably best to keep to the non hdt version of the prisoner chains if it causes CTDs sometimes for you.

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Starphyre said:

I added the HDT back in until it crashed

If you still have noHDT chains, delete all D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\devious\Heretic\Restraints all prisonerchains xml files. This is hdt smp configuration files and sometime sit can cause crash even if build nohdt version.

When you want restore prisoner chains hdt physics you need restore those files too.

 

Posted
On 4/22/2021 at 9:39 PM, Elsidia said:

Ok i just check a Leon's quest and you accidentally activated it by speak with Leon it's block all DCL 9.0 activities at start of quest. You can't hit DCL traps, rape, dagonwar prison while you complete this quest. Or (and) complete next quest too what you got or not got  on end of Leon's, if you choose it.  This next quest not block a Dagonwar prison but can be a little complicated play prison and this quest in one time. Also i think you can't do progression in Bound Queen while Leon's is active but about it not sure. Any way in one moment or Bound queen or Leon - nothing more.

i think i understand, so if i want to start a new DCL quests or/and go to dragonar prison i need to complete Leons quest first?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Yes and not continue The Bound of Queen Quest further.

Alright thank you, i'm lucky i haven't talked to Julius yet in The Bound of Queen. It looks like i'm on stage 3 on Leon's quest.

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Posted
54 minutes ago, shadychild said:

It looks like i'm on stage 3 on Leon's quest.

This quest (Leon's) is fun, but after that quest there can be started one time by your will new quest what in DCL 9.0 not block prison. but make you a little busy. Anyway it's need you to decide want this quest or not. But decision can be make only one time per save.

 

Posted

@Elsidiado you play with a lot of the devious mods and if so can i ask is your game pretty stable and if so can I ask to see your load order.....I do use loot but sometimes find it incorrect although I know there is a new version of loot so hopefully the rules and filters are better. I am getting ready to fire back up SE as most of the mods i like have now been converted. I was playing LE ran into an issue and dont think im going to troubleshoot it anymore.....lol....tired of troubleshooting. So going to fresh install of SE and would just like to see what your order looks like if thats okay

 

Posted

I have issues sometimes....(insert joke here).....but not sure if its due to conflicts or just too script heavy and what I was reading is that not so much that its too many scripts but if something happens with one script then another and keeps compounding that's actually what usually causes crashes. Here is my order in LE and I would like to run something similar in SE.

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
           SexLab.esm
           CreatureFramework.esm
           ApachiiHair.esm
           hdtHighHeel.esm
           Falskaar.esm
           BSAssets.esm
           Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
           GeneralStores.esm
           Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
           BSHeartland.esm
           BS_DLC_patch.esp
           Devious Devices - Assets.esm
           Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
           Devious Devices - Integration.esm
           Heels Sound.esm
           Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
           MiasLair.esp
           RaceCompatibility.esm
           SPIKE.esm
           SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
           SexLabAroused.esm
           Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
           SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
           TERAArmors.esm
           Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
           Vampire Slavers Den v2.0.esm
           Wyrmstooth.esp
           ZaZAnimationPack.esm
           battlenymphs.esm
  5  5     FNIS.esp
  6  6     FNISSexyMove.esp
  7  7     FNISspells.esp
  8  8     Cutting Room Floor.esp
  9  9     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 10  a     UIExtensions.esp
 11  b     BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
 12  c     BSHeartland - Textures.esp
 13  d     Point The Way.esp
 14  e     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 15  f     hold guard.esp
 16 10     WetFunction.esp
 17 11     Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
 18 12     01LeonPlayerHouse.esp
 19 13     Aradia Leather Thief Armor.esp
 20 14     BHTNF_Eli.esp
 21 15     proudspiremanortnf.esp
 22 16     Sanctuary Reborn.esp
 23 17     RavenRockExpanded.esp
 24 18     bome-divorce.esp
 25 19     ColovianNobleClothes.esp
 26 1a     JKs Skyrim.esp
 27 1b     Ambriel.esp
 28 1c     Cassandra Apocrypha UNP.esp
           KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp
           Rebekah.esp
 29 1d     SeranaProudwhoore.esp
           Sunsakuka's Follower.esp
 30 1e     TBOS.esp
 31 1f     SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp
 32 20     SLALAnimObj.esp
 33 21     Devious Lore.esp
 34 22     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 35 23     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
 36 24     DeluxeArchmageQuartersRedux.esp
           SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
           Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
           SOS - Shop.esp
           Seductress Elizabeth.esp
           12FemaleBrows.esp
           AdashaFollower.esp
           Alexina.esp
           Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
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           Amara.esp
           AngrimApprentice.esp
           AnubisFollower.esp
           Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp
           AstridReborn.esp
           AyleidPalaceNEW.esp
           BDO Complete Pack by Team TAL.esp
           BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
           Bijin AIO.esp
           BlendedRoads.esp
           BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
           Ciceriareplacor.esp
           Cuckold.esp
           Cuckoldress.esp
           DEM Steam.esp
           DOHeadquarters.esp
           DX Armours for SMWO.esp
           DaedricCastle.esp
           Dark_Brotherhood_V2.esp
           Demonatrix.esp
           DenassaG_MageRobes.esp
           DenassaG_MageRobesBoots.esp
           Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
           Devious Devices - Equip.esp
           Devious Devices For Him.esp
           Devious Dremora - Primal Arenas.esp
           Devious Dremora - Summons.esp
           Devious Heatrise.esp
           Devious Loading Screens.esp
           DeviousBodyAlteration.esp
           DeviousFollowers.esp
           DeviousToys.esp
           DeviouslyPink.esp
           DianaVampyrePureBloodEdit.esp
           Dibellas Grace.esp
           Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
           Dress Up Lovers.esp
           ENB Snow FX.esp
           Earrings Set1.esp
           Elewin Jewelry.esp
           Elewin Pumps 2.esp
           Elewin Pumps.esp
           Elisdriel.esp
           Elsa_Companion.esp
           EquipableStockings.esp
           ErynielElfV2.esp
           FISS.esp
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           Forgotten Races - Kothringi Race UNP.esp
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           Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
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           GemstoneMaidensStandalone.esp
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           HN66 SLEEK Outfits.esp
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           Hanali.esp
           Holidays.esp
           IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
           Immersive Interiors.esp
           Immersive Jewelry.esp
           Immersive Weapons.esp
           JS Purses and Septims Patch.esp
           Jinxxed Followers - Mad Moxxi.esp
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           KS Jewelry.esp
           Kalena Rios.esp
           Karthwasten.esp
           Kaw's Claws.esp
           Kiyomi.esp
           LADX.esp
           Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
           LunariRace.esp
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           Lyla.esp
           MeridaHair.esp
           Michelle.esp
           MisaAmaneByAsherz.esp
           Misha.esp
           Moniko.esp
           MoreNastyCritters.esp
           NIOVHH.esp
           NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
           Pearl Juice.esp
           PoisonOutfit.esp
           Provincial Courier Service.esp
           R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp
           RRTattoos.esp
           RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
           RaceMenu.esp
           RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
           RaceMenuPlugin.esp
           RavenCastle.esp
           RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
           RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
           RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
           RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
           RegnPiercings.esp
           RevampedExteriorFog.esp
           RosaFollower.esp
           SLACS.esp
           SLAnimLoader.esp
           SLSW Addicted.esp
           SMIM-Merged-All.esp
           SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
           SOSRaceMenu.esp
           Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
           ScopedBows.esp
           ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
           ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
           Seductress Hroki.esp
           Serana.esp
           Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp
           SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
           SexLab Extra Voices.esp
           SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
           SexLab Strapon.esp
           SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
           SexLabTools.esp
           SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
           SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
           SexLab_Hormones.esp
           SexLab_Solutions.esp
           Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
           SexyStartingOptions.esp
           SimpleSlavery.esp
           SinbloodLethalMajesty.esp
           SkyUI.esp
           Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
           SlaveTats.esp
           Spank That Ass.esp
           Stella.esp
           SuccubusTwins.esp
           ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
           The Autumn of Whiterun.esp
           The Four Horses of the Apocalypse.esp
           The Ordinary Women.esp
           The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp
           TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp
           TrueStorms.esp
           Valerica.esp
           Vjarkell Castle.esp
           Volthar Manor V1.2.esp
           WhiterunSunsetHome.esp
           WultarKirasMerged.esp
           XPMSE.esp
           Xanafollower.esp
           Zarias_Piercings1.esp
           [COCO]Witchiness_fullB.esp
           [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
           [Melodic] Hardcore.esp
           arvak_replace.esp
           dc-untamed-000.esp
           dvmb.esp
           lilithstools.esp
           non-devious devices.esp
           nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp
           nwsFollowerFramework.esp
           ogDiverseDragons2.esp
           sr_FillHerUp.esp
           submissivelola_est.esp
           yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
 

Even though it looks like a lot of those mods aren't installed they actually are. Had to do a reinstall of NMM and pointed to the VIrtual Install directory. So my order is actually how it shows there. I would like to run something very close to this in SE

Posted
1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

This quest (Leon's) is fun, but after that quest there can be started one time by your will new quest what in DCL 9.0 not block prison. but make you a little busy. Anyway it's need you to decide want this quest or not. But decision can be make only one time per save.

 

I see, i choosen to be Leon's slave but what does this mean for me now. Can i do story quest's and side quest's or  how do i progress in Leon's quest?

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