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Posted
On 10/14/2018 at 10:44 PM, Tiress said:

Nothing to apologize for. If you did everything for us, we'd get too lazy! :P

I tried the mesh from MNC LE first and it worked except for missing genital texture. What I noticed though was a substantial increase of file size between LE and SE version of the mesh, like double the size. I have no idea how you achieved that, just something I noticed. :)

Can you tell me what you have changed?

 

Posted

First off, thank you very much for converting MNC!

But.....I seem to be having issues with some meshes. For some reason, all wolf and some of the dog meshes are red exclamation point (and perhaps other creatures since I can't identify them). I've followed the install guide to the letter, and I've even changed the Header of MNC from 43 to 44 using CK (verified as changed in SSEEdit). I do not have IC installed either. I've singled MNC out as being the cause of this mesh issue, since disabling the esp returns the original meshes to normal from the red exclamation point.

Any modders with better experience who know how to perhaps fix this? Sorry if this is such a menial task or idiotic failure on my end. I've searched for several hours and spent the better part of two weeks trying to get it to work with no results.

Posted
3 minutes ago, ValdyrT13 said:

First off, thank you very much for converting MNC!

But.....I seem to be having issues with some meshes. For some reason, all wolf and some of the dog meshes are red exclamation point (and perhaps other creatures since I can't identify them). I've followed the install guide to the letter, and I've even changed the Header of MNC from 43 to 44 using CK (verified as changed in SSEEdit). I do not have IC installed either. I've singled MNC out as being the cause of this mesh issue, since disabling the esp returns the original meshes to normal from the red exclamation point.

Any modders with better experience who know how to perhaps fix this? Sorry if this is such a menial task or idiotic failure on my end. I've searched for several hours and spent the better part of two weeks trying to get it to work with no results.

What's your load order and mod list?

Posted
30 minutes ago, BlunderingFool said:

What's your load order and mod list?

I have toyed with the position of MNC a few times already, placing it at the top, at the bottom, and in the center to no avail. I should warn you.....this may be a train wreck to more experienced eyes than mine (and yes I do use LOOT): 

Spoiler

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
Joy of Perspective.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
unofficial skyrim survival patch.esp=0
FNIS.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
50 More Perk Points.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
WeightLessLegacyAll.esp=1
WeightLessTrueCrafting.esp=1
WeightLessTrueGems.esp=1
WeightLessTrueScrolls.esp=1
WeightLessTrueSoulGems.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp=1
Witch Of The Wild.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
JulesDisenchantGodAmulets.esp=1
ShadowmarkLabels.esp=1
AncientTonguesSwords.esp=1
ValiantNordBow.esp=1
JulesRankPerks.esp=1
PumpingIron.esp=1
WergildDepreciation.esp=1
JKs Skyrim.esp=1
Original Opening Scene.esp=0
Blues Skyrim.esp=1
JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp=1
Eli_Breezehome.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
WeightLessTrueIngredients.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
MistySkye.esp=1
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp=1
ScopedBows.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
72hours.esp=1
SkyVoice.esp=1
HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp=1
A Better Death.esp=1
Vicious Heart.esp=1
EbonyValkyrie.esp=1
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp=1
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp=1
SeeEnchs.esp=1
AelaStandalone.esp=1
BetterArchmagesRobes.esp=1
CDMS SSE - No Original.esp=1
MageGloves.esp=1
Black Mage Armor SE.esp=1
Immersive Movement.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
CFTO-JK-Patch.esp=1
rmp_wizardisland.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
BikiniMaidenFull.esp=1
DisableFastTravel.esp=0
FNISspells.esp=1
LADX_SSE.esp=1
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp=1
jwd-karenthiatheassassin.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1
Hunters Jacuzzi.esp=1
BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1
Dark Envoy.esp=1
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1
FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp=1
JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
CiceroFemaleSE.esp=1
HaladoonDarkBrotherhoodshield.esp=1
DBRewards.esp=1
AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp=1
Dwemer Storage Cube Enhanced.esp=1
HavenBag.esp=1
DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp=1
ShadowmereX.esp=1
fastermining9-3.esp=1
BoundElementalArrows.esp=1
RSChildren.esp=1
EtherealArrowsAndBow.esp=1
Alex's Guardian Stones 50% XP.esp=1
LeftHandRings.esp=1
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1
LeftHandRings - Enchanted.esp=1
LazyCBP.esp=1
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1
Nocturnal Craftable Armors.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp=1
IndividualShoutCooldowns.esp=1

 

Posted
1 hour ago, ValdyrT13 said:

I have toyed with the position of MNC a few times already, placing it at the top, at the bottom, and in the center to no avail. I should warn you.....this may be a train wreck to more experienced eyes than mine (and yes I do use LOOT): 

  Hide contents

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
Joy of Perspective.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
unofficial skyrim survival patch.esp=0
FNIS.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
50 More Perk Points.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
WeightLessLegacyAll.esp=1
WeightLessTrueCrafting.esp=1
WeightLessTrueGems.esp=1
WeightLessTrueScrolls.esp=1
WeightLessTrueSoulGems.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp=1
Witch Of The Wild.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
JulesDisenchantGodAmulets.esp=1
ShadowmarkLabels.esp=1
AncientTonguesSwords.esp=1
ValiantNordBow.esp=1
JulesRankPerks.esp=1
PumpingIron.esp=1
WergildDepreciation.esp=1
JKs Skyrim.esp=1
Original Opening Scene.esp=0
Blues Skyrim.esp=1
JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp=1
Eli_Breezehome.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
WeightLessTrueIngredients.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
MistySkye.esp=1
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp=1
ScopedBows.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
72hours.esp=1
SkyVoice.esp=1
HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp=1
A Better Death.esp=1
Vicious Heart.esp=1
EbonyValkyrie.esp=1
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp=1
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp=1
SeeEnchs.esp=1
AelaStandalone.esp=1
BetterArchmagesRobes.esp=1
CDMS SSE - No Original.esp=1
MageGloves.esp=1
Black Mage Armor SE.esp=1
Immersive Movement.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
CFTO-JK-Patch.esp=1
rmp_wizardisland.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
BikiniMaidenFull.esp=1
DisableFastTravel.esp=0
FNISspells.esp=1
LADX_SSE.esp=1
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp=1
jwd-karenthiatheassassin.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1
Hunters Jacuzzi.esp=1
BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1
Dark Envoy.esp=1
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1
FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp=1
JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
CiceroFemaleSE.esp=1
HaladoonDarkBrotherhoodshield.esp=1
DBRewards.esp=1
AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp=1
Dwemer Storage Cube Enhanced.esp=1
HavenBag.esp=1
DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp=1
ShadowmereX.esp=1
fastermining9-3.esp=1
BoundElementalArrows.esp=1
RSChildren.esp=1
EtherealArrowsAndBow.esp=1
Alex's Guardian Stones 50% XP.esp=1
LeftHandRings.esp=1
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1
LeftHandRings - Enchanted.esp=1
LazyCBP.esp=1
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1
Nocturnal Craftable Armors.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp=1
IndividualShoutCooldowns.esp=1

 

download the file again... I think you have the bugged version.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Pfiffy said:

download the file again... I think you have the bugged version.

 

Didn't seem to work; still missing the meshes. I have a feeling I may have overwritten something while installing MNC which I shouldn't have. I'll try a few different permutations of installation and changing the mod order for MNC a bit. Thank you for the advice though, Pfiffy!

Posted
5 hours ago, ValdyrT13 said:

Didn't seem to work; still missing the meshes. I have a feeling I may have overwritten something while installing MNC which I shouldn't have. I'll try a few different permutations of installation and changing the mod order for MNC a bit. Thank you for the advice though, Pfiffy!

What you are discribing, is usually pointing on mixing SE and LE mods. 

Posted

Yea I thought Valdyr would probably have a more bare-bones installation like me. I'm of absolutely no use there. Look for any mods that make changes to those meshes though, double check every single one. If in doubt, build up your mods in an order of  Fixes > Framework > SexLab Content > Other content and look for the point when it breaks.

Posted

Looking at other things, I came across the same thing Tiress did above.

 

In the fox meshes, in the ORIGINAL mod, I am decently sure that the vertex colors should be removed from every tri shape, not just the body, The problem isn't the conversion, it is that the original mesh has vertex colors when there shouldn't be (and the shader options are then not set to actually do the correct thing with them). The other meshes looked okay, because the color was all white, whereas the body is all black, however the most correct fix is to just entirely remove the colors from all parts for the fox.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, PaulGreen said:

Looking at other things, I came across the same thing Tiress did above.

 

In the fox meshes, in the ORIGINAL mod, I am decently sure that the vertex colors should be removed from every tri shape, not just the body, The problem isn't the conversion, it is that the original mesh has vertex colors when there shouldn't be (and the shader options are then not set to actually do the correct thing with them). The other meshes looked okay, because the color was all white, whereas the body is all black, however the most correct fix is to just entirely remove the colors from all parts for the fox.

it will be fixed in the next update.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Pfiffy said:

Please take a look at the giants, too.

the only possible problem i saw was with the frost giant penis, are you seeing something else?

Posted
1 hour ago, MadMansGun said:

the only possible problem i saw was with the frost giant penis, are you seeing something else?

I will send you the errorlog from Nifscan. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Pfiffy said:

I will send you the errorlog from Nifscan. 

 

umm...those are not MNC file paths/meshes it's showing there:

"data\meshes\actors\giant\character assets\" VS "Data\meshes\MoreNastyCritters\giant\"

 

as for the wisp is this right/working?

wisp.nif

Posted
1 hour ago, MadMansGun said:

umm...those are not MNC file paths/meshes it's showing there:

"data\meshes\actors\giant\character assets\" VS "Data\meshes\MoreNastyCritters\giant\"

 

as for the wisp is this right/working?

wisp.nif

So the vanilla giants are not overwritten but replaced? (well, you might still check them because the equippment of the gint one is clipping throu the skirt)  

Can't check it withpout having a whisp around... But I had some troubles with the artic fox, too. 

Posted
On 10/14/2018 at 10:23 PM, Tiress said:

Avrei dovuto farlo subito invece di aspettare che qualcuno chiedesse di indovinare. :)

foxfix.zip

hi ! i have fixed the black fox with this file , but exists a link for fix the "snow fox" ?the snow fox are black

Posted
2 hours ago, capitanohook said:

hi ! i have fixed the black fox with this file , but exists a link for fix the "snow fox" ?the snow fox are black

Ah, I expected it to have the same problem normal foxes had, I was just lazy to check it out. You can notice that my little fix doesn't affect aroused meshes so once the fox gets its arousal level above threshold set in Creature framework, they turn black again. It should all be fixed in the file below. :)

 

foxfix_all.zip

Posted
29 minutes ago, Tiress said:

Ah, I expected it to have the same problem normal foxes had, I was just lazy to check it out. You can notice that my little fix doesn't affect aroused meshes so once the fox gets its arousal level above threshold set in Creature framework, they turn black again. It should all be fixed in the file below. :)

 

foxfix_all.zip

thank you tiress ❤️

Posted
9 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

well, you might still check them because the equippment of the gint one is clipping throu the skirt

Can't check it withpout having a whisp around.

only in NifSkope, in game they are fine.

just to be clear that is the wisp mother, not the actual wisp.

Posted
8 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

only in NifSkope, in game they are fine.

just to be clear that is the wisp mother, not the actual wisp.

I have to check them in game.

Interesting sidenote: I run nifscan with the DDS fix option, It solved my crashes, but It messed up a lot of other things, especially animated objects(even vanilla stuff like chopping wood). A lot of them got invisible. And it wrecked the foxes again. but this time they were not black, but they show the behavior of a bad mesh. I couldn't even see that it have been the foxes, the whole sceen was a mess. 

 

 

 

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