SexoutWillow

[Thenryb]

Here is what happens: I say "come even closer, I want a kiss" 2. She steps forward one step and "smooches" 3. We both stand there with no animation and my character is unable to move. I open the console and see these messages :  SexoutWillow  LPTimer4: Stage0; SexoutWillow LPTimer4 Stage1;SexoutWillow LPTimer4 Stage2; followed by : NGSan: Rnd on Sextype RndA 10

 

I can engage in further dialogue. For example if I ask to make love, the sounds play but neither character move and I am unable to move my character. I simply have to exit the game. I will try reinstalling the skeleton and see if what happens.

 

Edit: After reinstalling the skeleton, the same thing happened with the same console messages except the last one was changed to RndA 30

[BruceWayne]

Post your load order.

[Thenryb]

 

 

Current load order:[

{X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] drgNV - Melissa Companion.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esm

[X] Sexout.esm

[X] SexoutCommonResources.esm

[X] SexoutSharedResources.esm

[X] Sortomatic.esm

[X] Afterschool Special.esm

[X] wsex.esm

[X] Lings.esm

[X] NVWillow.esp

[X] MojaveDelight.esp

[X] HomeSHome.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] Khan Rumor Fix.esp

[X] Primm_Rumor_Fix.esp

[X] HZFollowerCheatMenu.esp

[X] Afterschool Special.esp

[X] Taurus.esp

[X] FNX.esp

[X] Lucky 38 Balcony.esp

[X] Balanced Skill Perks.esp

[X] DLCCompanions.esp

[X] FreesideKingsGiftGiverFix999Days.esp

[X] VanGraffHostilityQuestFix.esp

[X] DarNifiedUINV.esp

[X] Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

[X] Readius_NV.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] LFox Easy Weapon Mods.esp

[X] FNV - ShopHome.esp

[X] ftcGreatKhanArmoryMarker.esp

[X] UHNV.esp

[X] UHNV-Dead Money.esp

[X] UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp

[X] UHNV-OWB.esp

[X] UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp

[X] UHNV-Brighter Lighting.esp

[X] UHNV-More Mannequins.esp

[X] Lucky38MarkerV3.esp

[X] wsexInnuendoAnims.esp

[X] wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp

[X] wsex.esp

[X] FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp

[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes.esp

[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes HH DLC.esp

[X] ilbuonorevolver.esp

[X] LNC StealthSuit NV.esp

[X] lucky Shades.esp

[X] Neckchains.esp

[X] T3Belts_BootsNV2.esp

[X] AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp

[X] drgNV - Melissa Companion (Lings Hairstyle Add-On).esp

[X] The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp

[X] Quest Items - Non-Essential and Categorised.esp

[X] No More Annoying CC - ALL.esp

[X] Mo'Gals.esp

[X] SunnyCompanion.esp

[X] Improved VATS and Autoaim fix with Better Binoculars.esp

[X] ImprovedTerrifyingPresence.esp

[X] Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp

[X] fastervats.esp

[X] LFox Bottle That Water.esp

[X] AFricanAmericanAAlbino.esp

[X] No Weapon Speed Penalty.esp

[X] PreOrderItems.esp

[X] ScribeCounterFix.esp

[ ] UnlimitedCompanions.esp

[X] LFox 1st Recon Beret Perk.esp

[X] FNV Vanilla hat fix with all storyline DLCs.esp

[X] Grunt perk fix - DM LR GRA.esp

[X] CC Perk Fix - ALL DLC.esp

[X] NinjaPerkFix.esp

[X] UnarmedAndMelee-PerkFix.esp

[X] SexoutRapeGame.esp

[X] SexoutSex.esp

[X] SmallerTalk.esp

[X] BloodyMessLessBloody.esp

[X] Skip Intro - Old World Blues.esp

[X] HonestFixing.esp

[X] Skip DLC - Dead Money.esp

[X] 1 Hired Gun.esp

[X] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[X] MelissaChompsOutfit.esp

[X] VanGraffHostilityFactionFix.esp

[X] Shotgun Commando Redone.esp

[X] LegendPresets.esp

[X] LegendsBourne.esp

[X] LegendsPike.esp

[X] HandsofStone.esp

[X] SilencedUltraSMG.esp

[X] WeaponsOfTheShogunate.esp

[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

[X] LFox Missing Ammo Recipes GRA DLC.esp

[X] SexoutWillow.esp

[X] Tutorial Killer.esp

[X] silenced 9mmpistol.esp

[X] dressup.esp

[X] LFox Infinite Companion Ammo Repair.esp

[X] Tutorial Killer - Project Nevada.esp

[X] ShutUpHUDMessagesNoStash.esp

[X] C2O_GirlsJewelyRing.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_NV_Vanilla.esp

[X] abetterreload.esp

[X] GRAVendorsHaveMoreCaps.esp

[X] HZBagOfHolding.esp

[X] Performance Of The Gods.esp

[X] Merge2.esp

[X] PCB Hotkey.esp

 

 

 

All of the sexout animations are working just fine. Unless something leaps out at you, Ms Willow may have to go without foreplay.

 

Edit: After posting this, I went ahead and installed the beta version of sexout.esm as recommended (I actually thought that was what I had). Now the kissing animation works, although after it is concluded my character is frozen in first person unable to move unless I use the console command to enable player controls.

[BruceWayne]

That's good to know, about the beta. Though I'd like to hear from more people first, before I make it a definite requirement.

 

First of all get rid of SexoutSharedResources. It's not supported anymore. The fact that you still have it suggests to me that you are not running the most recent version of sexout. It might be worthwile to download the newest stable version, install that and then copy the beta on top.

 

Is wsex.esp prideslayer's SI override? I'm not sure if that one still works as it should, since both sexout and SI have been updated since that patch has been released. It might still work just fine. However, I'd try it with a sexual innuendo free save just to be sure.

[Thenryb]

wsex.esp is the SI override and it still works fine. Frankly, it is a bit difficult for me to remember how I came to install SCR. I have Sexout-core and Sexout-data version 2.6.78 and on top of that I installed the beta. As to SI, I would be amazed if that were updated recently, but will check. I know that none of the SI animations (eg sex standing on the bed) are present) and you do not get stds anymore or some of the perks (like Colonial Love) which I never wanted anyway. Also, you do not have to rest between encounters. I have disabled the part of SI involving the King and Pacer because it was screwing up the King's Gambit quest (the King and Pacer were always boinking the groupies instead of being where they needed to be to trigger the quest.

[BruceWayne]

Yup, definitely upgrade your sexout installation. Most current release versions are core 2.6.82 and data 2.6.80. 

 

SSR was part of Sexout for a while and was meant to be SCR "light". It is not supported anymore and it can cause cause problems with mods that rely on SCR, like SOWillow.

[Thenryb]

I did upgrade and noticed that SSR is no longer in my load order, however sexout slavery esm (which I have never used) is. A new problem has arisen, however, namely body disappearing during sex. I already had Breeze +fixes installed via a fomod so when the option came up to choose I selected "none".  Pretty frustrating is the sudden disappearance of the body during sex-hands and head only are visible. The only changes I have made are to upgrade the sexout installation and apply the beta. At a loss.

[BruceWayne]

You can delete slavery if you don't use tryouts. 

 

You can install sexout's breeze, it comes in a .bsa and whatever you have installed in the loose folders will take precedence over that. So it's compatible with your existing installation, but it will have all the required meshes and textures in case you're missing something.

 

[Thenryb]

Re Sexout's Breeze-after I got the disappearing body during sex, I reactivated Sexout-Data and selected the option to install Breeze +fixes. FOMM (Prideslayer's version) then crashed. Should I get the Sexout Breeze as a separate download here?

[BruceWayne]

Try the most recent version of FOMM. Alternatively you can open fomod files with 7zip and unpack sexout-breeze.bsa manually in your data folder. 

 

[Thenryb]

I think I discovered the reason for the FOMM crash. When I chose to install Breeze+fixes, it asked whether I wished to overwrite the T6M bsa. Out of habit, I was clicking "yes to all". When I realized it was asking to overwrite that bsa, I selected "no" and it installed fine, and the disappearing body during sex is solved. However, I am still having to console 'enable player controls' after the kiss scene ends in order to move the player. Hopefully, you will get some feedback from others with less funky installations than mine. Also, thanks for the tip on opening fomod files with 7zip. Did not realize that was possible. My current FOMM version is 14.9 . I will follow your advice and upgrade to 14.10.2 .  Thanks for your patience and help.

[BruceWayne]

No problem. 

 

I just double-checked my script and when it says "SexoutWillow LPTimer4: Stage 5" in the console it runs a "enableplayercontrols", so the error is (most likely) not on my end or that of the original mod. However, I may just remove the disabling of player controls altogether in future iterations, which I have done for the sex scene as well. The only purpose it serves, is for Willow to walk to the player and the player not having the possibility to run away, which could result in weirdness.

[Thenryb]

Is there supposed to be a "collapse" at the end of the kiss animation as if the characters had orgasms? Disabling player controls altogether sure sounds like a fine idea to me.

[Thenryb]

I looked at the script in the Geck and saw a line "enableplayercontrols 1 1 1 1 1 1 " or something like that ( I know squat about scripting). I will likely never be able to chase down and correct the reason it does not fire and if I tried, it would all end up in another re-installation of the game just as did chasing down the kissing animation failure. It would sure be a hell of a lot simpler just to disable it and I would do it right now in my own game if I knew how. In the meantime, it is console time for me.

 

I still wish you would get some feedback from others besides me on this.

[Thenryb]

That is a common problem people have posted about on the Willow thread and few have this mod (or would admit it in that thread). I am having no problem with the quest itself but after the quest , she does not shop unless I take all of her caps away and ask her why she is not shopping. She has to have zero caps for that dialogue to appear. If she has any caps at all-no dialogue. If she has plenty of caps she does not shop. 

[BruceWayne]

I didn't have any problems with the shopping quests (initial and repeatable) at all. Even if, I can guarantee you that this mod doesn't interfere with it.

 

I'm going to upload a version without disabling player controls tomorrow, for people that have problems with it. I have no clue why it's not enabling like it should, but taking that part out most likely doesn't affect the scene that much anyway.

[Thenryb]

There is a new and probably final version out today. Sexout Willow does not work at all with this new version. She just stands there-no undress, no dance, no sex.

[BruceWayne]

Just gave it a shot and kissing works like it should, without any alterations at all, disabling/enabling playercontrols and playing the correct animation. However, the sex scene won't start at all for me as well. I'm not sure what is up with that, since nothing has changed on first glance. I'll investigate and release an update asap.

[Thenryb]

@CindySkye-I do not have all the sexout mods you have but in 1.02 my PC  can have sex with her via either Sexual Innuendo with the sexout override or sexoutsex and she remains undressed. With 1.01 I had to set her permanent outfit as basically naked and ask her to equip that prior to sex. If I did not do so, she would dress almost immediately.

[BruceWayne]

The kissing animation only affects the repeatable kissing scene. It wouldn't have made much sense for the first few, since they're just supposed to be "pecks", but the animation is quite saucy.

 

I've heard a lot about freezes but I'm still not quite sure what is meant with that, since I haven't experienced any them and both of you seem to be talking about different kinds of freezes. To me freezing means that either 1) the game freezes and the process needs to be killed with the task manager or 2) the actors freeze (can be killed/resurrected or disabled/enabled), but the game keeps running or 3) you can't move your character (enable player controls), but all other character are acting as usual. Each of those might have different causes, so I need to know exactly which kind happens when.

 

One possible solution for category 1 freezes:

If you give Willow pregnancy related items like the diaphragm, which appear in the apparel inventory screen, make sure to set the item(s) as permanent in her permanent outfit locker. Category 1 freezes used to happen, because the diaphragm kept getting removed prior to the scene, which caused the game to freeze after the animation ended and it got readded to her inventory. Since llama uses exception lists for different outfit sets as well now (the permanent outift items), I can't just tack on an exception list as I did before. 

 

[BruceWayne]

That sounds like a possibility. Probably a mod that I don't use, but you guys did, so I didn't get the freeze.

 

Though unfortunately, I won't be able to work on this today after all. So this'll have to wait until some point next week. No promises, but it won't take that long. Stay tuned.

[Thenryb]

No problem, thanks for the mod. I'd just upload the patch I made, but my ESP is this horrible frankenstein - I've merged SexoutWillow with mSexVeronica to make Willow a D/s lover. In the meantime, anyone following the topic should be able to implement the changes pretty quick in GECK. =)

 

Well, I tried that. Found the two references and inserted "FU2" in what appeared to be the appropriate spot, but the GECK would not allow me to save the changes. Got changes made when I opened GECK with NVSE-duh. The sex scene worked fine although she lost the particular outfit she was wearing. I probably just better wait for a proper update.

[harlequin1229]

No great hurry, as your last version got 1.01 working fine.  I'll just use that until you have time to get a new one out.  Thank you very much for this mod, it makes my favorite FO mod so much better.

[Thenryb]

I am seeing some animations I have not seen before-some of which look quite awkward. Is this from the SexoutNG beta? I even noticed a return of the "footy" which I can certainly do without. I realize this has nothing to do with this mod-just thought someone might know.

[BruceWayne]

Update:

 

V4.3

 

Support for Willow 1.02

Removed disabling of player controls during kissing scene

 

As always, make sure to use the newest version of NVSE (4.2b3 as of now).