Being a Cow

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi, can anyone share some light on how this quest mod start without using console? When my PC talk to Paul on Riverwood, he keeps saying he is tired and as my PC to talk to him latter. What am I supposed to do before my PC can talk to him again? Thanks in advance. I'm using 1.8 Pre version.

[fred200]

Hands and Feet appeared for me after running Bodyslide. Can't hurt to try it. Might be under Miscellaneous.

[LinksSword]

I can just imagine if devious butt is added to the mod, what kind of punishment that could potentially be for ignoring paul, Intense gas increase.

[<3GoAway<3]

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

[Grisha Qofn]

1 hour ago, <3GoAway<3 said:

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

i like 1a and 2a

[Skelletoncz]

4 hours ago, <3GoAway<3 said:

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

I like 1a - 2a and 1b - 2b

[Femmex]

16 hours ago, <3GoAway<3 said:

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

1b an 2b are cool. I thought about a "diet" change my self, and it would make much sense.

 

1a. I don´t know if it is "realistic" (okay its about a Sexlab Mod not about Realism but...) if you are able to milk yourself with hooves instead hands. But an animation would be nice, where you "try" to milk yourself... but fails or something like that.

2a. I don´t like the "animals" are your allies part. I mean for wolves and tigers and so on are lonely cows in the wild a good nice and fat meal... and not a dude and sex-partner.

 

1c. and 2c. not my favor, but i´m neutral to this.

[skyrimfet]

On 9/30/2018 at 8:50 AM, <3GoAway<3 said:

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

I want only remind - I'm currently working with 1.8pre3 and all in this update is/will focused on relation between owner-cow. I'm still looking and thinking about interesing ideas for quests.(i added dance quest and race quest - soon in pre3 version) ')
 

but - yes, ideas are always welcome :), so i will comment point after point
 

1a - its good, but hard to write, becouse animation can break other scenes in game i need to find all possibilities and run it only  in specifed moments - when for example: player is not in other scene, not siting, not swiming, not falli down, no combat and other, and ... not wear devious devices (chastity bra), not play other animations, no sex etc etc - potential risky feature - with many problems in gameplay.
2a - im sure that as women or as cow you ale still a wild game for wolves. i dont know which races are able to cross together ? it is good idea but with very low priority- or maybe use other mods like pheromones if pheromones provide api??

1b - its realy nice and easy to add but only when food in skyrim is taged by keywoords - in this way 2b should be connected with 2a but devious butt is one exotic mod for few people - so i have more important things to finish first - for me 1a and 1b is very nice but im not going to add it to 1.8

1c and 2c in fact mod currently make arms shorter and bigger - i think that i will add buff to carry weight - unarmed buff is provided by hooves.

 

 

[Tex]

1 hour ago, skyrimfet said:

interesing ideas for quests.
 

 

 

 

I had though about an revenge quest, taking it all out on Mark for betraying you, along with Paul, the priest at whiterun, and so on. Also, if you ever do work on an "cure" quest, perhaps it could be more of an control rather than cure? As in you can switch in between cow form/human form, but if you pile up alot of milk/lactacid, the cow form automatically activates? Something along those lines.

[botticelli]

I have finally found the cause of the invisible hands/feet. Bodyslide had nothing to do with it. The culprit was the heavy armor from the Beastess mod. Somehow upon game load, it tends to cover hands and feet as well as any gear on those with invisibility.

[LinksSword]

On 9/30/2018 at 3:50 AM, <3GoAway<3 said:

A few transformation effects and curses to share!

 

1a. Beastly Urges: If the player is highly aroused, they might milk themselves publicly. (replaces idle animation)
2a. Animal Scent: You're transformation can even confuse animals, allying you and potentially allowing them to mate with you. (animals are allies and are no longer frightened of you and might randomly engage in sex if you're close)

1b. Animal Diet: The player's stomach evolves into a cow's and is forced to eat veggies only. (Player gains buffs from vegetarian diets and is hurt when eating meat)
2b. Devious Butt: The player loses control of their gasses due to their vegetarian diet, and might relieve themselves freely. (can cause NPCs to jeer or clap)

1c. Strong Cow I: The player gains more muscle mass and loses weight. (increase in arms and chest while lowering weight)
2c. Strong Cow II: The player gains even more muscle, resembling  more like a strong bull. (increase in arms, chest and thighs while lowering weight to zero.)

 

My reaction simply put... YES.

[LinksSword]

7 hours ago, skyrimfet said:

I want only remind - I'm currently working with 1.8pre3 and all in this update is/will focused on relation between owner-cow. I'm still looking and thinking about interesing ideas for quests.(i added dance quest and race quest - soon in pre3 version) ')
 

but - yes, ideas are always welcome :), so i will comment point after point
 

1a - its good, but hard to write, becouse animation can break other scenes in game i need to find all possibilities and run it only  in specifed moments - when for example: player is not in other scene, not siting, not swiming, not falli down, no combat and other, and ... not wear devious devices (chastity bra), not play other animations, no sex etc etc - potential risky feature - with many problems in gameplay.
2a - im sure that as women or as cow you ale still a wild game for wolves. i dont know which races are able to cross together ? it is good idea but with very low priority- or maybe use other mods like pheromones if pheromones provide api??

1b - its realy nice and easy to add but only when food in skyrim is taged by keywoords - in this way 2b should be connected with 2a but devious butt is one exotic mod for few people - so i have more important things to finish first - for me 1a and 1b is very nice but im not going to add it to 1.8

1c and 2c in fact mod currently make arms shorter and bigger - i think that i will add buff to carry weight - unarmed buff is provided by hooves.

 

 

1a - im all for that too, i think arousal should play a bigger part in your behavior in this mod, Heck maybe being highly aroused causes you to make more cow like or more so bitch like behaviors, walking on four for example. ?

 

what makes devious butt exotic? i know its not in huge demand only a few want it such as myself still hoping it gets in for the next big update 1.9, and making it toggle optional feature in the mcm "like Hardcore mode" would probably be safe for people who dont want farts, im Sorta confused by what you mean there. ?

 

I wish skyrim had bulls in them, that would be a perfect one for 2a, 

 

Something that bothers me just a little more so a pet peeve is i think mooing should cause enemies to be alert which would make the pain system much more important, if you dont want to be detected you better keep your milk level regulated.

 

I never noticed short arms though, i did notice thicc arms.

 

 

Always good discussions on here none the less, Never will we run out of ideas. After all without you considering feedback and ideas shared from users  i don't think this mod would be nearly as good as it is. Still looking forward to see what direction this mod will take in the long run.

[LinksSword]

6 hours ago, Tex said:

I had though about an revenge quest, taking it all out on Mark for betraying you, along with Paul, the priest at whiterun, and so on. Also, if you ever do work on an "cure" quest, perhaps it could be more of an control rather than cure? As in you can switch in between cow form/human form, but if you pile up alot of milk/lactacid, the cow form automatically activates? Something along those lines.

What if like with player succubus quest, the form is activated through arousal? of course this could be optional some people might not want a "cure".

 

Or if you milk yourself dry you go back to" human" form something along those lines.

 

These could activate once you find a "cure"  Yes i know i'm putting strong emphasis on quotations ?

[carolight]

Nice, mod... 

A suggestion, a new spell to get out trouble, Grazing spell... causing you to crawl (go on 4 legs) and graze (player disguises themself as a real cow causing confusion, enemies un-agro)... but the player is unable to stand up again until they are milked.

[Tex]

32 minutes ago, LinksSword said:

What if like with player succubus quest, the form is activated through arousal? of course this could be optional some people might not want a "cure".

 

Or if you milk yourself dry you go back to" human" form something along those lines.

 

These could activate once you find a "cure"  Yes i know i'm putting strong emphasis on quotations ?

That's basicly what I suggested, but with PSQ You do have control, here I would suggest containment, since these "cowformations" arent natural, unlike the succubus herself. Just an thought. 

[LinksSword]

6 hours ago, Tex said:

That's basicly what I suggested, but with PSQ You do have control, here I would suggest containment, since these "cowformations" arent natural, unlike the succubus herself. Just an thought. 

What would be cool if you revert back to your original weight /scale that you had as a cow but not instantly more like a rapid scaling of the body back to your original cow appear seeing your body fating again after reverting back to a cow would be really cool to see.

 

i know it could be done because egg factory has a rapid pregnancy that causes the belly to swell up very fast. so something like that when you revert back to a cow body. i fine rapid weight gain funny.

[LinksSword]

My cow is in a predicament 

[PaddedLocks]

Any chance for the quest you can prevent milking when choosing to not behave? I feel like the milk increasing effect doesn't have the same weight unless you are unable to do anything about it at the same time. If I just go around milking myself whenever I get too full it feels like there is no consequence. This would give a reason for the player to return because otherwise they would be immobilized by their own tits eventually.

Actually on that topic, I feel like there are several arguments specifically for preventing self-milking outside of the quest as well.

One, I'm not even sure how these cows even milk themselves with hooves for hands...  (perhaps prevent self-milking at this stage of the transformation?)

Two,  in the quest we would belong to another person essentially as a cow slave. (This could tie into the built-in milk slave settings already present in MME. I've never delved into the specifics of that system though and it could be built for NPC's only. I'm not quite sure.)

Third, rather... extreme measures are already mentioned in the story (bandit side only) but exist nonetheless for forcing helpless cows to become immobilized by their own tits.

I'm not sure if adding chastity bras to perform the same purpose would have the same effect. Not only would you have to add support for Devious Devices but also, to be honest, I hate the way they look on oversized boobs because of all the clipping issues (don't even get me started on how ridiculous chastity belts look on pregnant bellies with SLIF/related mods). The only functionality that chastity bras would give over labeling the player a milk slave in MME would be the prevention of using the various milking stations in addition to self-milking.

That said, there might need to be something put in place for those who are incapable of moving anymore due to how much their tits weigh if they choose to play with the default MME setting debuffs. I'm also not sure how cumbersome it would be to switch back and forth flagging the player as able to milk themselves and vice versa...

[skyrimfet]

2 hours ago, PaddedLocks said:

Any chance for the quest you can prevent milking when choosing to not behave? I feel like the milk increasing effect doesn't have the same weight unless you are unable to do anything about it at the same time. If I just go around milking myself whenever I get too full it feels like there is no consequence. This would give a reason for the player to return because otherwise they would be immobilized by their own tits eventually.

Actually on that topic, I feel like there are several arguments specifically for preventing self-milking outside of the quest as well.

One, I'm not even sure how these cows even milk themselves with hooves for hands...  (perhaps prevent self-milking at this stage of the transformation?)

Two,  in the quest we would belong to another person essentially as a cow slave. (This could tie into the built-in milk slave settings already present in MME. I've never delved into the specifics of that system though and it could be built for NPC's only. I'm not quite sure.)

Third, rather... extreme measures are already mentioned in the story (bandit side only) but exist nonetheless for forcing helpless cows to become immobilized by their own tits.

I'm not sure if adding chastity bras to perform the same purpose would have the same effect. Not only would you have to add support for Devious Devices but also, to be honest, I hate the way they look on oversized boobs because of all the clipping issues (don't even get me started on how ridiculous chastity belts look on pregnant bellies with SLIF/related mods). The only functionality that chastity bras would give over labeling the player a milk slave in MME would be the prevention of using the various milking stations in addition to self-milking.

That said, there might need to be something put in place for those who are incapable of moving anymore due to how much their tits weigh if they choose to play with the default MME setting debuffs. I'm also not sure how cumbersome it would be to switch back and forth flagging the player as able to milk themselves and vice versa... 

so... - i know two ways to reduce milk outside towns and other NPCs - MME armor and Milk addict ropes. I cant block milking in my mod I can only make armor equuiping more harder. Breast grow it is simple reminder - just warning. then is next effect - B&W - game is still playable but colorless should force player to back. I want to live it in this formula and only add next effects (finally hunting like quest). BTW im going to write it in official description: - big breast can ripe armor - this feature is provided by Milk addict - it's works together and works realy nice! I recomend this mod.

 

about slif -  maybe it is good to add options and support keywords from DD armors - like chastity bra - slif can check it and reduce breasts to 0 or 1 when chastity bra are equpied. etc?

 

[skyrimfet]

20 hours ago, Tex said:

I had though about an revenge quest, taking it all out on Mark for betraying you, along with Paul, the priest at whiterun, and so on. Also, if you ever do work on an "cure" quest, perhaps it could be more of an control rather than cure? As in you can switch in between cow form/human form, but if you pile up alot of milk/lactacid, the cow form automatically activates? Something along those lines.

i wrote long time ago that i have idea about removing cow's effects for a while - i have sketch in my head and - yes - this way of removing effects are more interessing for me i want to keep this direction. i like marc revange idea - something like in FNV in Cesar camp :3

 

back to removing effects,without spoilers

- as obey cow you will be more liked by paul and he will find something, someone who could be helpfull - optional quest with unique skill

i realy like option with arousal to control states:

let's say low arousal level will be reduce effects (masturbation, masturbation to keep human shell), high level will be turn back effect (chastity belmuuuuuu?)

[skyrimfet]

14 hours ago, carolight said:

Nice, mod... 

A suggestion, a new spell to get out trouble, Grazing spell... causing you to crawl (go on 4 legs) and graze (player disguises themself as a real cow causing confusion, enemies un-agro)... but the player is unable to stand up again until they are milked.

i do everything to not using crawl animations becouse im sure that it will be very problematic - lets say armbinder + crawl - there is no crawl animation for armbinder i think? what if someone using sanguine debuchery? this mod reset animation when player move from cell to cell - so how long there is no one moving framework (SLIF for animations) its could be very painfull. and very problematic for me during development.

[skyrimfet]

18 hours ago, botticelli said:

I have finally found the cause of the invisible hands/feet. Bodyslide had nothing to do with it. The culprit was the heavy armor from the Beastess mod. Somehow upon game load, it tends to cover hands and feet as well as any gear on those with invisibility.

and what's about problem with nose ring? still nothing?

[botticelli]

41 minutes ago, skyrimfet said:

and what's about problem with nose ring? still nothing?

No. I circumvented it by playing 1.7g until end of Enslaved Cow 2 and then switch to 1.8pre2. As I said earlier, with 1.7g it all works fine.

[skyrimfet]

6 minutes ago, botticelli said:

No. I circumvented it by playing 1.7g until end of Enslaved Cow 2 and then switch to 1.8pre2. As I said earlier, with 1.7g it all works fine.

i still think that something is wrong with your game. but i still dont know - what

 

just for sure

after meet with hunters and fight you back to paul and you said that you meet hunters and you want to be marked, he said no problem just sit in furniture.

after this you noticed opened door but quest marker from furniture is in middle of area?

what ZAZ do you use 8.0 or 8.0+ ?

 

this issue means that something is wrong with references? did you unpack skripts into data/scripts? did you edit dialogues with external .esp tools ? did you manipulate with mod?

[Tex]

Glad to hear it. But what about an cow that's rebellious (like mine for instance)? How does she get her transformation in check? Obviously Paul is quita amused by the current situation, and wont help.