gregathit Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Well, did you download and run BOSS? It sure does not look like it to me. You can find it at the nexus. Also archive invalidation via bsa redirection is critical! Link on instructions: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/Oblivion_Mods_FAQ#Archive_Invalidation Your lovers load order needs some help too: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp <---this is second to last LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp <--this needs to be your last plugin LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp <---this is not supposed to be enabled but rather merged into a bashed patch and left disabled. A sample for a working load order can be found in the spoiler at the bottom of this page: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 MBP is really supposed to be merged into a bashed patch as you will notice from the above link notes. If you don't do this then you will need to move all of its esp files down to the bottom of your load order just above the two priority lovers esp files I mentioned above. Be sure to start a new game to test things and you may be able to salvage your existing save if you clean it (disable all plugins, start oblivion, load your save then hit escape and create a new save (NO quick or autosave mind you) and then exit oblivion, now enable all your plugins and load your clean save and things should be fine. Holler if you have any issues
Rogue13 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Posted March 24, 2012 Hi Major-Kagami, I agree with Gregathit above, your load order looks very wrong. For instance, crowded cities is way too low in your load order and Beautiful People is way too high. I would recommend downloading BOSS ( Better oblivion Sorting Software ) at (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516) and running it and this may clear up some issues for you. R13.
Major-Kagami Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 There we go looks like its working at lest when I did new game the eyes worked. I had the boss thing but it didn't work the 1st time, same thing with archive invalidation. I moved the load order around, that didn't work but then did those 2 things again and seems to have worked. I'm sure there is something that wont be working though.... playing a little more in and I'm still missing some heads... guess I'll just have to let it be.
KD360 Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Gregathit also indicated that there is AIO OMOD via torrent: (see post 119) http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?...12&page=12 loverslab.com/showthread.php?...12&page=12 ^This link just redirects you to nothing. The ... are ruining the link. I've been searching this forum a while now for the torrent but i can't seem to find it. Would it be possible to fix this? I really don't want to download from depostifiles. Their server is to far away from me so i get slow speed, thus torrent is preferred.
gregathit Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Gregathit also indicated that there is AIO OMOD via torrent: (see post 119) http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?...12&page=12 loverslab.com/showthread.php?...12&page=12 ^This link just redirects you to nothing. The ... are ruining the link. I've been searching this forum a while now for the torrent but i can't seem to find it. Would it be possible to fix this? I really don't want to download from depostifiles. Their server is to far away from me so i get slow speed' date=' thus torrent is preferred. [/quote'] http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3812&page=12 See post 119
Daosdx Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Hi, I´m new to this Forum. I wanted to mod my Oblivion so i began read tutorials and learn this stuff. The first steps worked fine but now i´m stuck. I installed "modular beautiful people 2ch-edition v1.4 full" and mbp++, Hi-res skin texture and face texture and Xeosp and x117. As far as I know, i used the right install order. Now when I´m in characer creation, some of the new Races just have dumb face texture. They have skincolor and all, but it doesnt look lively and i cant change the color. So how do i get these nice face textures on these new races, you see in screenshots ? the body works pefectly fine, but the face is just urgh... For info, i use a german oblivion the kings and Si patch. does it work with german ? I hope you can help me
gregathit Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 The mods should work fine with any language. Did you install UOP or the custom race fix? You have to install one of these in order to get access to the new races. UOP (unofficial oblivion patches) is a fairly large set of patches that fixes all the problems that bethesda didn't. UOP contains the custom race fix already built in. The custom race fix is a very small file that just gets you access to the new races. Both are at the nexus and you can find them quickly by using the search engine there and typing the mod names. Don't forget after installing xeo and the like to archive invalidate via bsa redirection too!
Daosdx Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 I´ve already installed the UOP. I´ve gone through a step by spep tutorial. I have UOP, BOSS, OMM.. but your last point, i never red about it ... what does this mean "archieve invalidate via bsa directior" ? And what happens if i dont do it ?
gregathit Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Oblivion by default will always read from its default bsa files for all textures/sounds/meshes. If you install a replacer file (something that replaces vanilla stuff) oblivion will ignore it until you archive invalidate. Archive invalidating tells oblivion to look in the data folder 1st and if it doesn't find anything THEN to use the default bsa vanilla stuff. Archive invalidating via bsa redirection is the latest and most stable way to archive invalidate. To learn how to do it using OBMM just scroll to the appropriate section at this link: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/Oblivion_Mods_FAQ#Archive_Invalidation Holler if you have any other questions
Daosdx Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Yes i have ^^ I made a fresh install and do the step by step explenation from this thread page1 and i made the archieve invalitating... But it is the same as it was before, whith the exception that my chanpon race have on some subraces black strips beneath their eyes... but its still the problem that i cant change facecolor, and the facetexture looks odd. ah yes, and now i cant even change eyecolor ^^
gregathit Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 This sometimes happens at the first character creation screen. Just go with it as is and complete the tutorial. Just prior to exiting the sewers you can revisit the character creation screen. Try to make your changes there. If you still have no success then you may be missing something or something didn't install correctly. If the above doesn't work then post your load order as well as exactly how you installed things so I can get an idea of how to help you
Daosdx Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 this mod overwrites mod thing starting to piss me off ... but i`m beginning to understand how it works ... after reinstall of mbp and mbp++ the eye thing works. and now the face texture works better. so thank you^^ But could you tell me what Xeo i should use ? And what is this Xeorace and Xeorace117 ?
gregathit Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 If you are using MBP then you will want to use XeoSP++. That version was made to be compatible with MBP. All other versions will conflict with MBP and you may have to fix some googly eyes or other things. To install XeoSP++ you first have to install XeoSP v1 and then install SP++ from there (similar to installing MBP and then MBP++ on top of it). Instructions on how to install Xeo (as well as links) can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=13 (see the spoilers in the OP). XeoRace is a version of Xeo. There are actually a bunch of different versions: Xeo1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and race. Race was the first attempt to make Xeo more compatible with MBP. SP v1 was the 2nd attempt and SP++ further refined things. There are also some subtle changes between versions such as ages and skin tones. Xeo117 is a Xeo take on the 117 race. 117 is kind of somewhere in between loli and mature.
Daosdx Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 first, i`m very gratefull you help me. because tuts are nice and good, but sometimes a personal explenation saves the day. Ok i downloaded alot of Xeo`s, because in other posts they say the Xeos do different things. But ok, i`ll try to use Xeosp/Xeosp++. Now i`m on XeoSp and nearly all the Face Textures looking nice. The only exception is chanpon race ... the Texture looks just not detailed than the others ... How does it come ? Did it come because i installed this race extra before MBP and MBP++ ? But unless i`m very much mistaken, This Xeosp i installed after the extra chanpon race, adds some texture to the face ... Very confusing, why does this not work ? and another thing. i changed the bfecagentexturing back to 1 just for fun to see why i should not do this. And it looked much better ! So why change to 0 ? And one last thing, does OBGE affect the Characters ? or just the environment ? Sorry to bother with so many points, but when you googling a few hours, you find nice things and want to know about it. So thank you in forward ^^
gregathit Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 the bface=0 deal is so that the face matches the body. Yes =1 does look better but it tends to not match up to the bodies very well for some races. If you get your toons naked and see faces that are several shades different than the bodies then just change it back to =0. It is a personal preference deal. If chanpon is a separate mod then it just may not play well with MBP or Xeo. Not all races will play well together. It is frustrating but it is just the way it is. Each mod should come with its own textures and it may be a deal that the default textures it came with are not very good. You can search around to see if you can find better textures for it. Between Xeo and MBP you have a ton of races added so if you can't get chanpon to work right then just uninstall it. OBGE is an environmental mod. HOWEVER it can effect your toons because of the simple fact that it messes with lighting. Your skin tones will look different depending on the light. So the short answer is it only effects things indirectly. I use it myself and it doesn't cause any conflicts As I said in the post above Xeo does very a bit from version to version as each version added races or made changes. Some are more anime and others less. HOWEVER as I said it is a royal pain to use any version of Xeo other than XeoSP++ if you are using MBP. You will spend time using the CS correcting eyes and things like that if you use Xeo5 or lower. If you want maximum compatibility with fewer issues then stick to SP++. Modding is both rewarding and frustrating The reason mods conflict is that they are made by different people at different times to do different things. Sometimes this works out fine and others times it doesn't work at all.
Daosdx Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 But the Chanpon Race comes with MBP or MBP+++ so it should be compatible shouldn´t it ? Whatever, thank you for today. tomorow i make a clean install ( its 2:30 in germany ) so, good night.
gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Sorry, the way you were talking it sounded like you had added some other chanpon race mod. If it is the one that was added by the MBP mods then yes it should have been compatible.
Icemoore Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 When I tried to use OMOD for the All in one file it's not asking me those questions about Ren's hair or the body >.
gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 The MBP all in one does not contain bodies (if you are talking the torrent one). You need to install bodies separately. Again the all in one is quite different in the instructions from the ones listed on the front page as that is showing you how to install the separate plugins. Now if you are just talking about the BP v1.4.OMOD that is a different story. You will need to give more specific information so we can help you.
Daosdx Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Ok i´ve done a clean install. But now, when i zap through the races in charactercreation, at some races the cameraview, i dont know how to say it, well the view switches to outside of the cell and i see the Character from far... How do i resolve this ?
gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Well, THAT is the first time I have ever heard of anything like that....very strange. Is it happening at the first character creation? If so then just choose something quickly and do the tutorial then just before you leave the sewers you can redo the character creation. Try again at that point and see if it does the same thing then.
Daosdx Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 This camera bug is quit strange ... well i make ANOTHER fresh install, untill it all works XD Ok my Order is now : Game install All DlC and SI/knights UOP + Upgrade Unofficial Mods Patch for the DLC HGEC +BBB Body MBP ch2 1.8 Fix1.0 MBP ch2 1. FULL MBP++ High res skin / Face x117+077 1.0 XEORC4 ( is it compatible with Xeosp ? ) XEO SP High-res delete the XEOM and XEOT Folders then i do archieve invalidation ( or before Xeo ? ) Did i have to use SP++ ? Or can i leave it whith SP ? And if XEORC4/SP oferwrites meshes, should i reinstall the MBPs agein ?
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Daosdx, If you are running MBP then install XeoSp v1 then install XeoSP++. Sp v1 is not as compatible with MBP as SP++ will be. As you noted remember follow the install instructions for Xeo on deleting the folders. I personally would wait until you install all of the above before I archive invalidate via bsa redirection. However, it won't hurt you if you do it after every mod that you install...it is overkill and not necessary but it won't ever hurt you. If you are installing XeoSP/SP++ then DO NOT INSTALL XeoRC4!!!!! This will screw all kinds of things up if you do! XeoSP/SP++ should NOT overwrite anything of MBP so you are safe on that score. Again I don't have the slightest clue on the camera bug. If you do start over with a clean install remember to delete the oblivion folder in your my documents\games directory! That contains the oblivion.ini file and could be the source of the camera problem right there! I think I covered all your questions but if not just holler
Daosdx Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Well that really sucks ... Is there a way to get the XeoRC4 races without Xeorc4 ? And my Glossy Tool dont work anymore. It doesn´t show anything when i put an .nif file into it. Any ideo how to fix or who i could ask ?
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 There is no way that I know of to use XeoRC4 races without installing Xeo4. XeoSP/SP++ should have pretty much everything that Xeorc4 races has. Is there something specific you were after! I don't know a whole lot about the gloss tool. You might look through this thread and ask your question there: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2694
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