quest Thief

[Chrohnos]

On 12/18/2024 at 1:07 AM, ayecaramba said:

 

I finally found the source of the problem by accident - True Directional Movement broke scripted scenes in general. Updating TDM to the current version 2.2.6 (Sep 2024) fixed all pathfinding issues for my character in this and other mods.

 

@DogmaMods Maybe worth mentioning in the mod compatibility section? TDM seemed so inconspicious to me that I would have never suspected it to be the culprit. I know that this is not specifically a problem of Thief, but it relies so heavily on scripted player movement that I seriously don't know how I managed to complete the questline without going crazy.

Thanks for sharing, that makes alot of sense now omg. I also finished it while having this issues, but with it being fixed, that helps alot

[Chrohnos]

On 12/16/2024 at 12:04 AM, danielbower said:

Going to the show all saves screen does show all the correct saves but it will never go to the correct character file. Say if I save my game in the Skunkway, I can load that save by going to "Show all saves" but there is a problem still. If I save my game in the Skunkway and for maybe some unknown reason or conflict the game crashes, then I load that save in the "Show all saves" area, leave the skunkway, then save again, it will be on an entirely separate character file.

Small diagram to help, as I know my explanation is confusing.

- Save before entering Skunkway or sewers (or any other custom Dogma interior) Save file will go to character file "Heroine" 
- Character file "Heroine" can be selected from the save menu and you can load that save.
- Load into the most recent save of that character file, go into the Skunkway, then save your game.
- That save will not go to the character file, but instead, it will go to the "Show all saves" section of the "Load game" area in the menu
- No saves that you do within a custom interior will go to the character file "Heroine" until you LEAVE the skunkway and save again. After that, saves will be normal.
- If your game crashes, or you have to leave to the main menu and load that save in the "show all saves" category, then leaving the Skunkway will NOT save back to your original character file. Causing some major issues in the long run either during the quest or with other mods you might have installed.

I do agree, it does seem like some sort of engine issue. But other modders have been able to make their custom interior segments saves go to to the character file. Same with FO4. Dogma's mod is the only one that I have seen actually have this issue to such a major extent.

The reason why this save issue occurs is because there are underscores in some of the location names. You will see this happen only for specific locations. Use SSEEdit and remove the underscores (there is a plugin you can find online to remove underscores from cells with one click), and for silentwood hunting ground worldspace specifically, use SSEedit and manually change it yourself from eg. bd_sw_hg to bdswhg. Idk if saves made before this modification will be affected though, never tested it that way. But this should stop the issue from occuring in the first place.

 

If you're referring to a seperate issue, then my bad I got it wrong. But since the issue mentioned occurs in a custom location like the Skunkway, it seems to be a similar, if not the same issue.

[bigbasi]

I made it into the Skunkway, but when I'm trying to put on the clothes on the Bed, it results in an endless loop pickicng upthe clothes and putting them on... I tried everythin I know, to skip this scene but nothing helped.

 

Does anybody knows a workaround?

 

Or actually, I just wanted to play the pregnancy quest. Does somebody knows how to start it, without going through the skunkway?

 

 

EDIT: I asked Dogma over on Patreon, and he replied: that setstage bd_sq_sw 20 before picking up the clothes could help, and it did!

Edited December 21, 2024 by bigbasi

[SextusChadiusErectus]

Does anyone have the most up-to-date walkthrough?

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, SextusChadiusErectus said:

Does anyone have the most up-to-date walkthrough?

In my signature, there is google translated walkthrough from Dogma

[Deadgun989]

On 12/22/2024 at 5:15 AM, Highborn said:

In my signature, there is google translated walkthrough from Dogma

There is a walktrough for 1.8.0.4 version but where can we download it? 

[danielbower]

On 12/18/2024 at 10:40 PM, Chrohnos said:

The reason why this save issue occurs is because there are underscores in some of the location names. You will see this happen only for specific locations. Use SSEEdit and remove the underscores (there is a plugin you can find online to remove underscores from cells with one click), and for silentwood hunting ground worldspace specifically, use SSEedit and manually change it yourself from eg. bd_sw_hg to bdswhg. Idk if saves made before this modification will be affected though, never tested it that way. But this should stop the issue from occuring in the first place.

 

If you're referring to a seperate issue, then my bad I got it wrong. But since the issue mentioned occurs in a custom location like the Skunkway, it seems to be a similar, if not the same issue.

This seems to fix it. Editing all the editor IDs and removing underscores doesn't seem to break any scripts either. Will do more testing.

[Chrohnos]

16 hours ago, danielbower said:

This seems to fix it. Editing all the editor IDs and removing underscores doesn't seem to break any scripts either. Will do more testing.

I played through 1.7 and 1.8 with these changes before and was able to do so without difference, so yeah it should be fine for you as well

[Highborn]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:21 PM, Deadgun989 said:

There is a walktrough for 1.8.0.4 version but where can we download it? 

It was released on Patreon for top tier members and will eventually be added in the final version. I think he fixed bugs and improved some sections so the last build is 1.0.8 or something iirc. But the walkthrough still works for it

[Raven 54]

Well I just tried this mod for the first time...

I did not have fun.

Sex scene dialogues were missing in riften.

Locked camera angle when SL has free cam,

Locked save menu so one can't save their progress.

Black Screen when going from locked view to normal Skyrim. see pic.

Did not even bother to clean the grass from the bandits camp linked with the locked camera all I got to see was bandits ass while banging my pc. see pic.

No map markers.

No priest at the ruins so I could not progress that whole side of the mod, got kicked out after searching the whole town for the missing priest.

Can't have sex with the elf in windhelm after turning in the first page I got, no dialogue.

Makes PC cover herself like she is bashful, but gets naked in the Tavern to change clothes.

No direction from Zoe on how to progress the burial, dialogue never showed up.

 

This is where I call it and just uninstall this work. 

 

I don't intend on this being taken as mean spirited but this is just my experience with it, I don't have any city changing mods, or mods that alter any vanilla buildings, No mods that change the NPC's, I have downloaded and played hundreds of mods from this site and usually there is a way through, not here.

So frustrated with all these issues I am uninstalling and had to leave my exp for feedback.

 

Skyrim SE 1.5.97  Mod installed and plugin in Last Load category    All requirements installed

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Raven 54

[Highborn]

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Sex scene dialogues were missing in riften.

Could be an issue with your Fuz R'oh Doh version. It needs to be the one for version 1.5.97 and it's not the one from main version on that mod's page. Or maybe you tried to toggle free camera and that doesn't allow you to read the subtitles, which is a Skyrim engine limitation.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Locked camera angle when SL has free cam,

Like said above, the free camera wouldn't allow you to read the subtitles during sex scenes which is something that the mod relies a lot, and something that makes it stand out imo in comparison with the silent/moaning sexlab triggered animations. You can still rotate the camera after the camera stops moving and you can change camera position and distance with mods like MyTPC and customizable camera.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Locked save menu so one can't save their progress.

It's supposed to be locked only during some moments to avoid issues when the engine is taking control of a particular scene. If it gets glitched after a scene, you can type on console "setinchagern 0 0 0" and the save option will be available again.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Black Screen when going from locked view to normal Skyrim. see pic.

You can disable fade to black in the mod's MCM menu if it's bugged for you. Maybe it could work for you. Never had an issue like that.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Did not even bother to clean the grass from the bandits camp linked with the locked camera all I got to see was bandits ass while banging my pc. see pic.

Maybe you it's an issue with your grass mod or some .ini tweaked the grass in your game, I don't have an issue like that. But for the scene, a quick 'fix' is that you could easily type 'tg' at console command and the grass would disappear. After the scene, you could type again to turn grass on again. If the scene didn't rotate to see a better angle, it could be a bug that will be fixed in the final version that is currently being worked on. Perhaps you should try again the mod after the definitive version.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

No map markers.

There are map markers for some objectives. I don't remember the lack of them being a deal breaker in any part of the quest tbh.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

No priest at the ruins so I could not progress that whole side of the mod, got kicked out after searching the whole town for the missing priest.

Never had an issue like that so no idea why the priest didn't spawn for you.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Can't have sex with the elf in windhelm after turning in the first page I got, no dialogue.

Maybe the character didn't have enough karma, which are points that unlock new dialogues if the character engages in too much naughty activities. If she refused the elf's proposal then it could be it. If there isn't any dialogue after you retrive the page, then it's probably a bug.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

Makes PC cover herself like she is bashful, but gets naked in the Tavern to change clothes.

If you are talking about the scene in Whiterun, I just assume she is behind the bar and no one but Hulda could see her. The player character doesn't mind getting naked in front of other women.

9 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

No direction from Zoe on how to progress the burial, dialogue never showed up.

I also never had issues with missing dialogues like that. She should mention that she won't go into the witch's cabin, you need to find help, ask for the beggar at the inn to help you with retrieving the body, then talk with Zoe again and she will send you to the priest at cemetery, he will talk about needing to convince Kust, and so on. There is a walkthrough of most part of the mod at @brewmasterhal's signature and I keep the rest and most recent ones made by the mod author translated from Google in mine.

 

I don't want to convince you that there aren't issues, just answering here what I can if others appear here with similar problems.

Edited December 27, 2024 by Highborn

[Raven 54]

3 hours ago, Highborn said:

I just assume she is behind the bar and no one but Hulda could see her.

sexual Fame sees all, knows all.

3 hours ago, Highborn said:

the free camera wouldn't allow you to read the subtitles during sex scenes

Were no subtitles during sex, the three that were able to be sexed.

3 hours ago, Highborn said:

Maybe the character didn't have enough karma,

No explanation on how to get karma, I read the mod page and the spoilers attached.

3 hours ago, Highborn said:

She should mention that she won't go into the witch's cabin, you need to find help, ask for the beggar at the inn to help you with retrieving the body, then talk with Zoe again and she will send you to the priest at cemetery, he will talk about needing to convince Kust, and so on.

When I left the chemist house in Falkreath it said Zoe wants me to sell my body, no clue who to or where.

 

It's Ok I uninstalled it anyway, I like you wanted others to see that not all installs/ported mods run without issues.

I am not trying to say anyone is bad, or any should not use this, just saying this is my experience with it. 

Peace to you.

[Myu77 - AmoGlobine]

good hard work but

 

silentshit

 

can't even find the shit for those fucking question, half playtrough

 

following npc is shit too, i can't count thenumber of time ive used sgtm to pass time faster and not lose my life

 

8+ hours of gameplay ? of course with those shit mechanics, follow a NPC.. who ever had fun to do that, everyone can see how you extend the hours of gameplay thought

Edited December 29, 2024 by Myu77

[Myu77 - AmoGlobine]

big tip for fix scene for horse pursuit:

 

set horse essential to 1 like explained

then set horse essential to 0

then it should work

 

doing only setessential to 0  , for some reason i dont know, you cant kill your horse except with a punch but you can't punch when fall of your horse, even with command and ennemy cant either,

passing trough 1 and then 0, he died at first ennemy arrow(maybe i did a "setav health 1", and i have AFT, and command kill on console worked and dialogue started

Edited December 29, 2024 by Myu77

[kaliner]

help me......I get four shards ,and talk to leiv.....give him shards...but he dont give me crystal resin!!!!!!!!!!!!oh my god........how should i do?

[farber12]

I have some issues in Zoe hideout.PC wakes up in zoe hideout(after shotted  by fantom) and after leaving this place skyrim crashes in white window.I started new game,but skyrim crashes at this moment all the same.I use Skyrim AE 1.6.1170

[PippinTom]

12 hours ago, farber12 said:

I have some issues in Zoe hideout.PC wakes up in zoe hideout(after shotted  by fantom) and after leaving this place skyrim crashes in white window.I started new game,but skyrim crashes at this moment all the same.I use Skyrim AE 1.6.1170

 

However crazy that may sound (and useless be), try this: while being shot by the phantom - make sure you do not crouch.

[puttputt77]

Is it normal that this mod adds 10k+ animations? It is almost bigger then most slal packs. 

[Horus_04]

On 12/28/2024 at 1:02 AM, Raven 54 said:

No explanation on how to get karma, I read the mod page and the spoilers attached.

"A "karma" system--your character's dialogue and animations will change as you make different choices"

If this isn't clear enough, I'm pretty sure in the walkthrough it is written which decision gives how much Karma (I didn't read the newest one, but before it was always in there)

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When I left the chemist house in Falkreath it said Zoe wants me to sell my body, no clue who to or where.

You think that she suggests you to sell your body to kust. If you read all the dialogues it's pretty clear.

Edited January 2, 2025 by Horus_04

[Raven 54]

1 hour ago, Horus_04 said:

You think that she suggests you to sell your body to kust. If you read all the dialogues it's pretty clear.

Edited 1 hour ago by Horus_04

If you read my post I stated there was no dialogue.  Not said in a rude way, just saying it, I also stated I could not find the how karma is developed or how to acquire it.

[Rygus]

I can't get past the first drink in the bee and barb. He just never initiates the next scenes. I have no conflicts from any of the lists I've seen in FAQs, I am downgrading to 1.5.9 with AE content. Anyone help me out here?

[danielbower]

2 hours ago, Rygus said:

I can't get past the first drink in the bee and barb. He just never initiates the next scenes. I have no conflicts from any of the lists I've seen in FAQs, I am downgrading to 1.5.9 with AE content. Anyone help me out here?

Anything with AE content is very buggy. I haven't tried this mod with it, but when I have tried others they rarely work and scripts never process. I would try downgrading to 1.5.97 and using no AE content. 

[Horus_04]

4 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

If you read my post I stated there was no dialogue.  Not said in a rude way, just saying it, I also stated I could not find the how karma is developed or how to acquire it.

1. in the dialogue inside the shop she tells you what she thinks is best to do - sell your body - when you leave you think about that
-- if you skip the dialogue inside you wont understand it
2. And that's why I said look into the walkthrough

[Raven 54]

4 minutes ago, Horus_04 said:

1. in the dialogue inside the shop she tells you what she thinks is best to do - sell your body - when you leave you think about that
-- if you skip the dialogue inside you wont understand it
2. And that's why I said look into the walkthrough

There was no Dialogue!    Emphasizing, not yelling.   And yes I have all the requirements!

[Horus_04]

2 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

There was no Dialogue!    Emphasizing, not yelling.   And yes I have all the requirements!

Then you obviously have mods that interfer with Thief and block dialogues. Sad. It's a pretty good story

But if there was no dialogue, how did you manage to have any questprogress? the dialogue is needed for it

Edited January 2, 2025 by Horus_04