[QUESTION] [SOLVED] Sex Slave mods that DO NOT require DA?

[MsOtaku]

Does anyone know of any mod that can enable my PC to become a slave without having to install DA? I've recently learned that SD+ does not require one to download and install DA but, one will not be able to become a slave without said mod. I can not EVER get DA and Defeat to work along side each other and I miss RPing as a Slave and miss many other mods that put my PC in that position. I NEVER want to install DA again - I don't have anything against this mod it's just trying to make it work with Defeat that causes so many damn problems for me.

 

So if there is an alternative please let me know. Thanks in advance. xoxo

[thesteve812]

maybe?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49358-abandoned-submissive-lola-consensual-ds-mod/

[Arthacs]

I've used all those mods together with very few issues for some time now for a "helpless female" profile in MO.

 

When Using DA, SD+ and Defeat

(I also use many more mods like:SLIF, SLAL, Helpless, Devious Devices - Equip, CD, MNC, Cursed Loot and requirements plus most recommended mods from those except Simple Slavery since in that mod a Wolf, Rat or another creature can capture and sell u, which is to "immersive breaking" for me to use)

 

Maybe this will help: (atleast this is how I usually do it)

 

Setup ENB Skyrim inis for your System,

use mods like: USLEEP, Crash Fixes, Bug Fixes, OneTweak, NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash (set it up for SKSE and I think it does good?) and other stuff u think will help for your Skyrim)

 

-Start a New Game with ASLAL and wait for all stuff to load.

-Save the game and Reload it, Sexlab should automatically install after load, wait for it.

-Then setup Sexlab in MCM first and after that is done,

Start at the bottom of MCM list and set them up until u get to DA,

then activate mods from the top and down to DA, DA will be activated last of all mods in MCM.

 

-For Defeat, press the "compatible mods" or something after it's installed in MCM, deactivate "Wound damage" and then set it up as u like.

-For DA, first click "the activate mods" or something, exit MCM, wait for it to say "DA Ready" or something similar.

Then click Install DA in MCM, exit MCM and wait for it to say "DA Installed" or whatever it is.

Enter MCM menu fo DA and Choose only "Bleedout" click the "Extra Health Buffer" button and set "Perc Health Treshold"  to 5%.

 

[MsOtaku]

maybe?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49358-abandoned-submissive-lola-consensual-ds-mod/

 

That mod gives me the choice of only becoming a dominant or dominatrix character. That won't do.

 

I've used all those mods together with very few issues for some time now for a "helpless female" profile in MO.

 

When Using DA, SD+ and Defeat

(I also use many more mods like:SLIF, SLAL, Helpless, Devious Devices - Equip, CD, MNC, Cursed Loot and requirements plus most recommended mods from those except Simple Slavery since in that mod a Wolf, Rat or another creature can capture and sell u, which is to "immersive breaking" for me to use)

 

Maybe this will help: (atleast this is how I usually do it)

 

Setup ENB Skyrim inis for your System,

use mods like: USLEEP, Crash Fixes, Bug Fixes, OneTweak, NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash (set it up for SKSE and I think it does good?) and other stuff u think will help for your Skyrim)

 

-Start a New Game with ASLAL and wait for all stuff to load.

-Save the game and Reload it, Sexlab should automatically install after load, wait for it.

-Then setup Sexlab in MCM first and after that is done,

Start at the bottom of MCM list and set them up until u get to DA,

then activate mods from the top and down to DA, DA will be activated last of all mods in MCM.

 

-For Defeat, press the "compatible mods" or something after it's installed in MCM, deactivate "Wound damage" and then set it up as u like.

-For DA, first click "the activate mods" or something, exit MCM, wait for it to say "DA Ready" or something similar.

Then click Install DA in MCM, exit MCM and wait for it to say "DA Installed" or whatever it is.

Enter MCM menu fo DA and Choose only "Bleedout" click the "Extra Health Buffer" button and set "Perc Health Treshold"  to 5%.

 

My problem has always been getting DA and Defeat to work together. While many players say they have zero problems I'm one of the few that always has problems - it just never works. So many people here have given me suggestions, advise, shared their settings, etc. and it never works for me. I can only have one or the other installed and I prefer Defeat but, lately I've been having  problems.

 

When I first started modding I had a whole lot of LL mods installed on one profile and I was constantly having problems and CTDs. This is why I keep separate profiles with certain mods enabled in each. If you have specific settings for both DA and Defeat I would be most willing to try it out and see if it works in my game. If so, please be very specific with each setting in the MCM for both DA and Defeat. xoxo

[karlpaws]

This may not work for you but just in case... its an option.

 

I haven't used Defeat in a while, so I'm even sure what all options is has you might be using, but for a no-death/get raped on defeat mod, I use Sexlab Leveling

 

It has a bunch of downsides like being abandoned, not always picking 2-4 attackers and letting them attack you one by one, not using aggressive animations and such... but it is lightweight and does work with DA.

[thesteve812]

Not to steal the thread from OP.

 

I'm trying out Submissive Lola, not really thrilled with it. Richard Riekling is my master in the Riften Brothel. He put a gag ball on me for talking too much. The gag ball keeps unequipping itself, so I get the shit shocked out of me. I have the gag ball on favorite hot key so I can quickly equip it.

 

What I love about Loverslab is the helpful suggestions and trying to work things out. Instead of just, did you run LOOT? reply.

 

Thanks Arthacs for the MCM order and settings of DA, that helps me. I'm new to Defeat and have been using Submit- recruit follower.

Thanks karlpaws for the Sexlab Leveling suggestion. I like trying new to me mods.

EDIT - Soon as I saw stretched, I remembered it.

 

sorry for rambling

[MsOtaku]

This may not work for you but just in case... its an option.

 

I haven't used Defeat in a while, so I'm even sure what all options is has you might be using, but for a no-death/get raped on defeat mod, I use Sexlab Leveling

 

It has a bunch of downsides like being abandoned, not always picking 2-4 attackers and letting them attack you one by one, not using aggressive animations and such... but it is lightweight and does work with DA.

 

I always use Defeat. Yes, I've had some problems mostly due to trying to make it configure with DA but, as a stand alone mod it is the best rape mod in my opinion. I mean no offense to any modders that have created similar mods - this is just my personal favorite.

 

I thank you for the advise, though. xoxo

 

Not to steal the thread from OP.

 

I'm trying out Submissive Lola, not really thrilled with it. Richard Riekling is my master in the Riften Brothel. He put a gag ball on me for talking too much. The gag ball keeps unequipping itself, so I get the shit shocked out of me. I have the gag ball on favorite hot key so I can quickly equip it.

 

What I love about Loverslab is the helpful suggestions and trying to work things out. Instead of just, did you run LOOT? reply.

 

Thanks Arthacs for the MCM order and settings of DA, that helps me. I'm new to Defeat and have been using Submit- recruit follower.

Thanks karlpaws for the Sexlab Leveling suggestion. I like trying new to me mods.

EDIT - Soon as I saw stretched, I remembered it.

 

sorry for rambling

 

I have never tried Submissive Lola so I cannot comment about it. I use Richard as a fun follower and husband. Since I do not have SD+ installed nor DA I have been out of the slave RP for a while and don't really like the idea of him being my PC's master - I prefer dominant type males for that. Richard is a blast in other scenarios.

 

In regards to missing or disappearing gags or other DD stuff, I've never had that problem, so again I can't give an opinion on what exactly is going on there. I hope you get it fixed and sorted out soon. xoxo

[Nazzzgul666]

I've used all those mods together with very few issues for some time now for a "helpless female" profile in MO.

 

When Using DA, SD+ and Defeat

(I also use many more mods like:SLIF, SLAL, Helpless, Devious Devices - Equip, CD, MNC, Cursed Loot and requirements plus most recommended mods from those except Simple Slavery since in that mod a Wolf, Rat or another creature can capture and sell u, which is to "immersive breaking" for me to use)

 

Maybe this will help: (atleast this is how I usually do it)

 

Setup ENB Skyrim inis for your System,

use mods like: USLEEP, Crash Fixes, Bug Fixes, OneTweak, NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash (set it up for SKSE and I think it does good?) and other stuff u think will help for your Skyrim)

 

-Start a New Game with ASLAL and wait for all stuff to load.

-Save the game and Reload it, Sexlab should automatically install after load, wait for it.

-Then setup Sexlab in MCM first and after that is done,

Start at the bottom of MCM list and set them up until u get to DA,

then activate mods from the top and down to DA, DA will be activated last of all mods in MCM.

 

1-For Defeat, press the "compatible mods" or something after it's installed in MCM, deactivate "Wound damage" and then set it up as u like.

3-For DA, first click "the activate mods" or something, exit MCM, wait for it to say "DA Ready" or something similar.

2Then click Install DA in MCM, exit MCM and wait for it to say "DA Installed" or whatever it is.

4Enter MCM menu fo DA and Choose only "Bleedout" click the "Extra Health Buffer" button and set "Perc Health Treshold"  to 5%.

Some additions i want to add: that you're sold by rats to simply slavery isn't generally the case, not sure what mod does it, though.

DA settings: i think you should install it before activating mods.

And: i disable everything except the mods i want to be handled. SD+ if installed, if not Defeat is the only possible outcome, everywhere. No robbery, no quests, nothing. That works pretty fine for me.

 

And @MsOtaku: 

Well.. slaverun reloaded and Shout like a virgin both work fine with defeat, it's different to SD+, though. Your masters won't follow you everywhere/you follow them, but they give you tasks to do and you have to report back. And Shout like a virgin has technically no end, you just can stay enslaved.

 

If you want something more to SD+ with a master all the time around, i'm afraid submissive lola or PetCollar are your only choices, but i don't have that much experience with both although they are on my list to try out.

[MsOtaku]

 

And @MsOtaku: 

Well.. slaverun reloaded and Shout like a virgin both work fine with defeat, it's different to SD+, though. Your masters won't follow you everywhere/you follow them, but they give you tasks to do and you have to report back. And Shout like a virgin has technically no end, you just can stay enslaved.

 

If you want something more to SD+ with a master all the time around, i'm afraid submissive lola or PetCollar are your only choices, but i don't have that much experience with both although they are on my list to try out.

 

 

I want to be able to choose a alternate start from CCAS but, the problem is that some require SD+ which now says DA is no longer a hard requirement but, no there will not be any master/slave options. I do have PetCollar and have not tried it with CCAS, I don't know if the starts I want will work that way.

 

*sigh*

[Arthacs]

 

 

And @MsOtaku: 

Well.. slaverun reloaded and Shout like a virgin both work fine with defeat, it's different to SD+, though. Your masters won't follow you everywhere/you follow them, but they give you tasks to do and you have to report back. And Shout like a virgin has technically no end, you just can stay enslaved.

 

If you want something more to SD+ with a master all the time around, i'm afraid submissive lola or PetCollar are your only choices, but i don't have that much experience with both although they are on my list to try out.

 

 

I want to be able to choose a alternate start from CCAS but, the problem is that some require SD+ which now says DA is no longer a hard requirement but, no there will not be any master/slave options. I do have PetCollar and have not tried it with CCAS, I don't know if the starts I want will work that way.

 

*sigh*

 

I think Deviously Enslaved Continued can get u enslaved to SD+ without DA, not sure though, since I've always have had DA installed.

-dunno if it will help with CCAS though.

 

There is also another mod, Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133, that at least before, could be used together with Defeat and have some minor PC slavery stuff, but I dunno if its up to date anylonger, with Sexlab 1.62..

[pinky6225]

Does anyone know of any mod that can enable my PC to become a slave without having to install DA? I've recently learned that SD+ does not require one to download and install DA but, one will not be able to become a slave without said mod. I can not EVER get DA and Defeat to work along side each other and I miss RPing as a Slave and miss many other mods that put my PC in that position. I NEVER want to install DA again - I don't have anything against this mod it's just trying to make it work with Defeat that causes so many damn problems for me.

 

So if there is an alternative please let me know. Thanks in advance. xoxo

 

You could try Maria Eden as that does have submissive play although who told you that you can't have SD+ without DA? From my understanding SD+ will run fine without DA but to be enslaved you have to manually surrender (key set in MCM) for it to kick in or use a mod like simply slavery, prision overhaul patches or deviously enslaved to trigger the SD+ enslavement

 

DA is only required if you want the losing combat slavery scenario and it sounds like you already have that covered with defeat

[Nazzzgul666]

 

Does anyone know of any mod that can enable my PC to become a slave without having to install DA? I've recently learned that SD+ does not require one to download and install DA but, one will not be able to become a slave without said mod. I can not EVER get DA and Defeat to work along side each other and I miss RPing as a Slave and miss many other mods that put my PC in that position. I NEVER want to install DA again - I don't have anything against this mod it's just trying to make it work with Defeat that causes so many damn problems for me.

 

So if there is an alternative please let me know. Thanks in advance. xoxo

 

You could try Maria Eden as that does have submissive play although who told you that you can't have SD+ without DA? From my understanding SD+ will run fine without DA but to be enslaved you have to manually surrender (key set in MCM) for it to kick in or use a mod like simply slavery, prision overhaul patches or deviously enslaved to trigger the SD+ enslavement

 

DA is only required if you want the losing combat slavery scenario and it sounds like you already have that covered with defeat

 

Hm, true. Actually you can use a little detour to get even combat slavery: enable simply slavery in defeat, and SD+ in simply slavery... didn't try that, but should work.

[MsOtaku]

 

Does anyone know of any mod that can enable my PC to become a slave without having to install DA? I've recently learned that SD+ does not require one to download and install DA but, one will not be able to become a slave without said mod. I can not EVER get DA and Defeat to work along side each other and I miss RPing as a Slave and miss many other mods that put my PC in that position. I NEVER want to install DA again - I don't have anything against this mod it's just trying to make it work with Defeat that causes so many damn problems for me.

 

So if there is an alternative please let me know. Thanks in advance. xoxo

 

You could try Maria Eden as that does have submissive play although who told you that you can't have SD+ without DA? From my understanding SD+ will run fine without DA but to be enslaved you have to manually surrender (key set in MCM) for it to kick in or use a mod like simply slavery, prision overhaul patches or deviously enslaved to trigger the SD+ enslavement

 

DA is only required if you want the losing combat slavery scenario and it sounds like you already have that covered with defeat

 

 

I never thought of that! I will most definitely try it. Thank you so very much! xoxo

 

I think Deviously Enslaved Continued can get u enslaved to SD+ without DA, not sure though, since I've always have had DA installed.

 

-dunno if it will help with CCAS though.

 

There is also another mod, Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133, that at least before, could be used together with Defeat and have some minor PC slavery stuff, but I dunno if its up to date anylonger, with Sexlab 1.62..

 

 

Thanks for the suggestions!

[legume]

When Using DA, SD+ and Defeat

(I also use many more mods like:SLIF, SLAL, Helpless, Devious Devices - Equip, CD, MNC, Cursed Loot and requirements plus most recommended mods from those except Simple Slavery since in that mod a Wolf, Rat or another creature can capture and sell u, which is to "immersive breaking" for me to use)

I've been helping out with some development on Simple Slavery lately and I am fairly sure this is something jfraser, the mod author, wants to avoid.

If this is currently the case some of the changes we will be making to work with the latest version of Defeat should remedy this situation.

If you know of a way to get in this situation without using Defeat I'm sure we'd like to hear about it.

 

 

I'm trying out Submissive Lola, not really thrilled with it. Richard Riekling is my master in the Riften Brothel. He put a gag ball on me for talking too much. The gag ball keeps unequipping itself, so I get the shit shocked out of me. I have the gag ball on favorite hot key so I can quickly equip it.

My mod, Devious Framework, has a bit of a fix for devious devices getting mysteriously unequipped.  It tries to detect this situation and reapply the restraint right away.

You should be able to use this feature of the mod and turn off all of the other features.  Or you can play around and perhaps find some other features you like.  Or you are welcome to take the code for this devious device fix and add it to a separate mod.

 

 

... the problem is that some require SD+ which now says DA is no longer a hard requirement but, no there will not be any master/slave options.

This isn't really very true.

I believe it is accurate that the Sanguine Debauchery+ mod does not have any way to start slavery itself; however, Death Alternative is not the only mod that can send you there.

I don't recall off the top of my head but I'm a little surprised that Defeat doesn't have an option to send you to SD+.

As others have mentioned Simple Slavery and Deviously Enslaved Continued should both have the ability get you an SD+ Master.  Simple Slavery can be an outcome for Defeat if it doesn't have one already.  Defeated by bandits => Defeat mod => Simple Slavery auction house => Sold to an SD+ Master.

I am doing some coding on both of these mods and have a focus of getting them working smoothly so if you have any trouble you can post them in the forums and/or let me know.

Now that I think about it I don't know of any other mods that send you to SD+ but that surprises me.  I would expect there to be some.

 

As others have mentioned Maria Eden (or Maria Eden old), Slaverun Reloaded (or Slaverun old), and Wolfclub can enslave the player.  Captured Dreams isn't quite slavery but is close.

My mod, Devious Framework, also has some player slavery features you might be interested in.

 

I know this doesn't help a lot but I used defeat with Death Alternative .

I don't have the exact settings right now but in general to keep them compatible I turn off Defeat's "Wound" knockdown feature.  Defeat can trigger with low stamina or the knockdown feature.  When hit Death Alternative can trigger instead.

Isn't there a whole document somewhere on getting them to work together?

Ahh.  The document doesn't really address the defeat mod but might be worth a read.

 

Blurb from the document:

As of version 3.5.3, Death Alternative is not required for SD+ to run.

DA is required if you want to trigger SD when:

• you are killed by an enemy
• you are killed by a trap
• you are using Defeat

Without DA, you can still trigger SD when:

• you submit manually using the Surrender key
• greedy NPCs or friendly creatures can try to enslave you directly
• you are sent to a slaver using Simple Slavery
• you start with a SD+ scenario using Content Consumer Alternate Start (CCAS)

 

Blurb from Death Alternative on the subject:

-Defeat v5 by Goubo (LL id 19941) provides its own alternative to death mechanics and also offers a DA integration option. It requires a little bit of adjustments. In particular, one needs to disable the native knockdown methods (in Defeat's menu) and enable the DA triggers (in DA's menu) otherwise oddities might ensue. Contains adult 18+ content.

 

Hope this helps,

legume.

[MsOtaku]

This is great information and very helpful. Thank you for posting this! xoxo