Guest Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Oven-toasted-owl said: Realistically it will not be updated until the middle of next week or later at least a week for sure
Guest Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 2 hours ago, AloeVista said: What is wrong with you? I literally explained that I tested it ALONE without ANY other mods. It is the problem. And again, I am not the only one who has brought up having this same issue. Just because you're not experiencing it doesn't mean that there isn't an issue with the mod and that it doesn't need to be updated. I get that you're trying to help, and I appreciate that, but I think you've misunderstood me and haven't read any of the other posts that I made after that. My issue isn't that the game isn't running properly, my issue is that WW is causing infinite CAS loading in my game, particularly for 2 sims. I've already ran dozens of tests in the one save and in older/different saves, and as I've explained I tested with WW alone. It is definitely WW that is causing the issue. All my other mods run fine in the game and I can load CAS just fine with them (even with the single outdated trait I have installed). I've been playing this game for over a decade with mods, so I know what I'm doing and I already know how to troubleshoot when it comes to mod issues. id hardly say they are trying to help infact its the exact opposite, telling people a mod is working fine after a major script change after the creator themself has PUBLICY acknowledged the work needed on it is just flat out stupid, ive reported them to the moderators to have their comments removed before people start breaking there saves thinking its ok to use
Pepson Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 8 hours ago, NisaK said: It is a partial patch, but I don't think it should be preventing you from entering a lot/cas. Do you happen to have any LEs from when this was happening for you? These are the scripts I have. I removed them one by one to see which one may cause preventing me from entering a lot - just the WP gives me a problem. I tried removing all other scripts- left just WW and WP - still doesn't allow me. Only when I remove WP it works again.
scenicid Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pepson said: These are the scripts I have. I removed them one by one to see which one may cause preventing me from entering a lot - just the WP gives me a problem. I tried removing all other scripts- left just WW and WP - still doesn't allow me. Only when I remove WP it works again. Is that entering a lot as "play" or in CAS ? If for CAS, removing modded traits to the sims with shift click cheat solved the issue for me, but they may be other reason. For NisaK, the lot in error (infinite loading in CAS) had a doll in it. For other some sims had the cumshine aspiration. Edited July 27, 2024 by scenicid
ShakeSnake Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 At first, I apologize for my very poor English. After the update, I had a lot of problems. The game starts if I launch mods, including WW. However, if WW is enabled, I can't get into the CAS, nor can I download the existing family. Moreover, if I set clothes, hairstyles, character traits, the CAS will not start. And it doesn't matter if WW is running or not. If I remove everything, but only WW is enabled, the family does not load and the error de4ee14f appears. I also noticed that if you create a folder for any mod separately in the Mods folder, then you can't write the folder names in italics or highlight the words in bold, because then the game doesn't start at all. Finally. In my case, the game runs only in the virgin version, that is, only with what the developers put in it. So, I can assume that the developers have messed with CAS and scripts.
Eye Wish Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 24 minutes ago, ShakeSnake said: At first, I apologize for my very poor English. After the update, I had a lot of problems. The game starts if I launch mods, including WW. However, if WW is enabled, I can't get into the CAS, nor can I download the existing family. Moreover, if I set clothes, hairstyles, character traits, the CAS will not start. And it doesn't matter if WW is running or not. If I remove everything, but only WW is enabled, the family does not load and the error de4ee14f appears. I also noticed that if you create a folder for any mod separately in the Mods folder, then you can't write the folder names in italics or highlight the words in bold, because then the game doesn't start at all. Finally. In my case, the game runs only in the virgin version, that is, only with what the developers put in it. So, I can assume that the developers have messed with CAS and scripts. Did you update the game to a different DirectX driver version? If so, you will need to select the mods options again in the main menu.
ShakeSnake Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, Eye Wish said: Did you update the game to a different DirectX driver version? If so, you will need to select the mods options again in the main menu. Yes, the version has been updated. The mode option is selected. But the problem remained.
Nickymo Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 14 hours ago, Ivad_Dsm said: I've literally tested it with just WW, and CAS keeps loading forever. It seems that the problem is with the Wicked Whims attributes (traits). If your sims have them selected, CAS will simply not load. When I start a new save, CAS loads normally. You are right. I don't have a lot of mods so it was easy to check. The CAS will not load for me with Wicked Whims. So, let's wait until Turbo comes up with an update.
Pepson Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, scenicid said: Is that entering a lot as "play" or in CAS ? If for CAS, removing modded traits to the sims with shift click cheat solved the issue for me, but they may be other reason. For NisaK, the lot in error (infinite loading in CAS) had a doll in it. For other some sims had the cumshine aspiration. My problem is with the lots , I try to enter one , starts to load , I hear the music for entering but it brings me back to the lot selecting screen. No CAS problem here 🙄 EDIT : Don't think it's a trait , I create a brand new sim - taking him to an empty lot and it doesn't load Edited July 27, 2024 by Pepson
Enlibar Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 3 hours ago, scenicid said: For NisaK, the lot in error (infinite loading in CAS) had a doll in it. For other some sims had the cumshine aspiration. Both of those add custom preferences and traits. and the Fuckup-Date from Hell alters preferences...
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Enlibar said: Both of those add custom preferences and traits. and the Fuckup-Date from Hell alters preferences... Exactly. I think all the saves with mods that add traits and aspirations might be broken. In addition to WW, I use Cumshine and Big Dick Problems... So my save that doesn't load CAS has traits and aspirations from both mods. But I've already tested this save with just WW and CAS didn't load, so yeah (And CAS loads in this save if I remove WW). EDIT: I've also tested it on different families, I've also tried removing the WW, Cumshine and Big Dick Problems traits... CAS is still not loading. But he loads if is a new save, even with WW... WTF? Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm 2
Electric Aether Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ivad_Dsm said: Exactly. I think all the saves with mods that add traits and aspirations might be broken. In addition to WW, I use Cumshine and Big Dick Problems... So my save that doesn't load CAS has traits and aspirations from both mods. But I've already tested this save with just WW and CAS didn't load, so yeah... I've done extensive testing with over 9k mods. WW is the issue, CAS loads with cumshine, BDP etc etc MY guess is it has to do with the default WW traits like cumslut etc. I think this because CAS loads with WW as long as the sim/household members don't have any WW traits Edited July 27, 2024 by Electric Aether
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Electric Aether said: I've done extensive testing with over 9k mods. WW is the issue, CAS loads with cumshine, BDP etc etc MY guess is it has to do with the default WW traits like cumslut etc. I think this because CAS loads with WW as long as the sim/household members don't have any WW traits I edited the post above, but I don't think you had time to read it hahaha I also came to this conclusion, as I said, I even removed the WW traits to see if CAS would load in this save. It didn't. Maybe because I have these traits in several families? I'm going to try loading CAS on this save in a family that doesn't have these traits and I'll come back here with the answer. EDIT: It didn't load. Perhaps it has something to do with "memories" (that notebook in UI) generated by WW, because if I try to create a new family in this save, CAS loads perfectly. EDIT²: I've removed all the WW traits from all sims in this save, but CAS still doesn't load. My bet is on some conflict between this WW memory system and CAS, for some reason. Is there any way to disable it? Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm 1
FreyrNjordsson Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 I think I've found a fix (at least one that worked for me) I encountered the same issue with CAS loading indefinitely. I checked all my mods, got rid of the usual suspects, and only WW was keeping me from entering CAS. I tested with a new save and it was working just fine, so I thought this was because my old save got corrupted. But since I read that it might be because of traits, I got into my old save and tried to manually remove every custom traits with testingcheats on. Turns out many Sims preferences from WW are also working as traits. I deleted all of the Likes and Dislikes that were added by WW from the traits (as well as some extra WW traits like Cumslut) from all Sims in my household. Took me a while since you can only remove one trait at a time, but after that I was able to access CAS just fine. Since then I don't have any other issue with WW. (Sorry if this has been previously discussed or if it is obvious, I just found this out and I thought I would share about how I solved my case) 2
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, FreyrNjordsson said: I think I've found a fix (at least one that worked for me) I encountered the same issue with CAS loading indefinitely. I checked all my mods, got rid of the usual suspects, and only WW was keeping me from entering CAS. I tested with a new save and it was working just fine, so I thought this was because my old save got corrupted. But since I read that it might be because of traits, I got into my old save and tried to manually remove every custom traits with testingcheats on. Turns out many Sims preferences from WW are also working as traits. I deleted all of the Likes and Dislikes that were added by WW from the traits (as well as some extra WW traits like Cumslut) from all Sims in my household. Took me a while since you can only remove one trait at a time, but after that I was able to access CAS just fine. Since then I don't have any other issue with WW. (Sorry if this has been previously discussed or if it is obvious, I just found this out and I thought I would share about how I solved my case) These likes and dislikes being considered traits is a good answer as to why, even removing the “normal” traits from WW, I couldn't access CAS. I'll test it here and come back with the result. If it works, it's a good way to play and access CAS before the patch. The question is... Are these traits working the way the mod was designed to work? If they are, we can just remove the traits from the household before accessing CAS and put them back afterwards. Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm
mikeflint Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Yall need to chill. No need to troubleshout anything. The mod is officially broken. Take it out of your games, enjoy the new pack and wait for Turbo to update the mod. Theres nothing else we can do. 7
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, FreyrNjordsson said: I think I've found a fix (at least one that worked for me) I encountered the same issue with CAS loading indefinitely. I checked all my mods, got rid of the usual suspects, and only WW was keeping me from entering CAS. I tested with a new save and it was working just fine, so I thought this was because my old save got corrupted. But since I read that it might be because of traits, I got into my old save and tried to manually remove every custom traits with testingcheats on. Turns out many Sims preferences from WW are also working as traits. I deleted all of the Likes and Dislikes that were added by WW from the traits (as well as some extra WW traits like Cumslut) from all Sims in my household. Took me a while since you can only remove one trait at a time, but after that I was able to access CAS just fine. Since then I don't have any other issue with WW. (Sorry if this has been previously discussed or if it is obvious, I just found this out and I thought I would share about how I solved my case) I tested it and it really is this. I removed all traits from WW, including likes and dislikes, and was able to load CAS. Looks like the WW likes and dislikes system is broken, because when I accessed CAS, WW's likes and dislikes didn't even appear. 29 minutes ago, Anamariesa said: I just wanna say, Devious Desires (Wicked whims alternative) was updated the same day the patch was released, same day. Considering that Turbodriver have more than 14k paid subscribers I find it a little irresponsible to make their subscribers wait too long, that's what I think. He warned beforehand on Twitter that he would take longer this time because he would be away. Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm 1
Havoc526 Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 13 hours ago, Oven-toasted-owl said: Realistically it will not be updated until the middle of next week or later That's understandable. These things take time, and it wouldn't surprise me if the patch, and even the new pack added all sorts of stuff that made some wicked features obsolete, or worse, bugged to the point the modders sit in front of a computer with exhausted eyes, rustled hair, and barely an idea of how to fix it unless they take five minutes to themselves and walk away. We gotta remember, modders have lives, too. We gotta be patient, especially with a mod THIS BIG. 5
Electric Aether Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Just now, Ivad_Dsm said: I tested it and it really is this. I removed all traits from WW, including likes and dislikes, and was able to load CAS. Looks like the WW likes and dislikes system is broken, because when I accessed CAS, WW's likes and dislikes didn't even appear. Thank you for testing, I will take your word for it. I guess I'll do NG+ in Stellar Blade in the meantime. See ya'll in the next update. 1
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Havoc526 said: That's understandable. These things take time, and it wouldn't surprise me if the patch, and even the new pack added all sorts of stuff that made some wicked features obsolete, or worse, bugged to the point the modders sit in front of a computer with exhausted eyes, rustled hair, and barely an idea of how to fix it unless they take five minutes to themselves and walk away. We gotta remember, modders have lives, too. We gotta be patient, especially with a mod THIS BIG. Yeah, adapting the mod for the patch will be simple, If TURBO wasn't away, it would have been updated quickly. But for the expansion as a whole it should take a little longer. There are a lot of systems in Lovestruck that are the same or similar to those in Whicked Whims... It should be quite complicated. 11 minutes ago, Electric Aether said: Thank you for testing, I will take your word for it. I guess I'll do NG+ in Stellar Blade in the meantime. See ya'll in the next update. @FreyrNjordsson who found the problem and the improvised solution hahaha. Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm 2
FreyrNjordsson Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, Ivad_Dsm said: @FreyrNjordsson who found the problem and the improvised solution hahaha. Well that's a successful first contribution in this forum then haha Just checked out what traits to delete through MCCC by the way (which I should have used in the first play, it obviously makes it a lot quicker). Looks like some memory traits and other hidden traits also added by WW are not causing any trouble. I even tried to add back traits like Cumslut, Cuckold, Shy or Polyamorous and it's working just fine. So only preference traits are causing the issue, which makes sense considering what the Lovestruck patch brought in there. In the mean time I've disabled the WW Attraction system since it seems useless until next update, so I don't know if it could get bugged while it's on. 2
AloeVista Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 13 hours ago, Mellor81 said: id hardly say they are trying to help infact its the exact opposite, telling people a mod is working fine after a major script change after the creator themself has PUBLICY acknowledged the work needed on it is just flat out stupid, ive reported them to the moderators to have their comments removed before people start breaking there saves thinking its ok to use Don't worry, my second paragraph wasn't a response to Sandatharius (the first one was), but to a different person that I had quoted above said second paragraph. I 100% agree with you though and I think they definitely deserve to be reported. Anyone could clearly see that the mod needs updating after such a major update and change made to the game by EA.
Ivad_Dsm Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, FreyrNjordsson said: Well that's a successful first contribution in this forum then haha Just checked out what traits to delete through MCCC by the way (which I should have used in the first play, it obviously makes it a lot quicker). Looks like some memory traits and other hidden traits also added by WW are not causing any trouble. I even tried to add back traits like Cumslut, Cuckold, Shy or Polyamorous and it's working just fine. So only preference traits are causing the issue, which makes sense considering what the Lovestruck patch brought in there. In the mean time I've disabled the WW Attraction system since it seems useless until next update, so I don't know if it could get bugged while it's on. Yes, it seems that the problem lies in the preferences that can be chosen in CAS. No wonder they disappeared from the options when CAS loaded in my old save... I believe that as soon as TURBO returns, he'll solve this problem quickly, it seems to be simple. The biggest problem I think will be adapting WW for the Lovestruck expansion. He'll have a lot of work to do there. Edited July 27, 2024 by Ivad_Dsm
veegee96 Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 16 minutes ago, Ivad_Dsm said: Yes, it seems that the problem lies in the preferences that can be chosen in CAS. No wonder they disappeared from the options when CAS loaded in my old save... I believe that as soon as TURBO returns, he'll solve this problem quickly, it seems to be simple. The biggest problem I think will be adapting WW for the Lovestruck expansion. He'll have a lot of work to do there. That is what I've seen other modders post about mods that add to the preferences options - EA changed how that works and created a new categories concept to organize them which wasn't there before. So any mods that try to add them but without the new and required category value will break. There's bound to be other core problems, but that one sounds easier to fix.
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