The right of mod users

[Zor2k13]

Dude that is just really disrespectful to take a religious figure and make a mod out of them I mean, cmon man leave that stuff alone there are better things to do besides piss people off. Nexus likes to use that stuff as bait to ban people the moderators don't like screw them. You are just helping them stroke their e-peens over there by letting them smack down critics. What if someone make a mod making fun of gays what you think about that?

 

I didn't read the whole thread but it seems strange to me that the author of sam would ban this user from using their mod since the content posted looks a lot like the mod author content which is about as gay as it gets in skyrim mods so I don't know why there would be a problem unless the author is frequently in and out of the closet or whatever. Maybe the author is also a jerk? unless they respond or give a reason there is no way to know but the problem now is they told you to stop doin stuff with their mod. Best thing to do is switch to something else if possible but I know there is only SoS and nobody made anything else. It is very tough thing to do but you could learn to make your own body mod.

[RitualClarity]

 

 

 

You use another's creation then outside your own personal use you should respect the creators wishes.

 

It's not complicated it's being a decent person or not being a decent person simple.

 

 

the problem is that vp told him his licence is "revoked" and the licence states if it is revoked you have to delete all your copies and never use the mod ever again. vp thinks he can tell you what to do in your house. this is not a matter of what ixum is doing to republish the mod content, imho.

 

 

Thanks for the claification. Everyone knows that's not possible. He can do whatever he wants with his private copy in his own home and can not be forced to delete it. 

 

What I don't understand is why we are still talking about this if it's not about Ixum republishing his mod. This thread is not going to change VP's mind.

 

 

If I am not wrong.. the subject was VP telling him he couldn't post pictures (or videos) of the content he created with VP mods. This was stated after a change in EULA that was retroactive (which as far as anything I ever heard of is completely illegal and can't be held up in a court of law provided he continues to use the old versions of VP's mod and never updates his mods) In the OPs corner it would be respectful (not required) to follow VP request. In VP's corner he will likely get cooperation with many if not all the major modding sites as they will uphold any claims VP wishes to state related to use of his content.

 

If child content was suspected (or fact) I can understand VP getting upset. However to use an other analogy Smith and Wesson is never held responsible for crimes committed by those using their product. VP wouldn't be responsible or even looked upon unfavorably by anyone with any sense for the assets he distributed being used for such content. Same goes with Sexlab or Sexout for that matter. The authors aren't responsible or would even be considered responsible for such content as the user has to go through efforts to create said content. Not unlike the OP has to do to create his videos or photos. So by this his reaction is quite severe and even extreme. Nobody will blame him  for this content. 

 

In my opinion what needed to be done by VP when he found (and suspected) that this content was created. Was to report it to the admin/moderators or cooperation (youtube) or whatever that such content was there with any evidence or argument he has. Let them deal with it. Then if he still isn't satisfied.. report it to the legal authorities in his country for them to investigate and make sure such content has been removed if indeed illegal. (let them investigate). Severe yes.. but reasonable for anyone that believes such content is in fact wrong. What isn't reasonable is to alter the EULA suddenly and make retroactive draconian rules that likely wouldn't stand up 5 minutes in a court of law. All that can be done is use such a EULA to try to remove the content and make it as hard as possible for those that he deems are doing what he believes is wrong. Basically become a personal crusader on the subject. It is unproductive and very tiring to do such things.

 

What can happen if someone was to be a jerk is they would find sites that didn't give a flying fuck of such a EULA and post his content there and spread all the news around the web through PMs, email and such. There would be little left to do unless VP wished to hire a lawyer and peruse all these instances. Paying out of his own pocket quite substantial monies to do so.

 

What should be done.. is get a proper EULA to protect his assets correctly. Make sure he is fair and even in administering and enforcing such Eula (not seen as harassing someone or singling them out) and host it on a site with clear concise instructions that it is not to be posted/uploaded anywhere else. Also if he feels some will abuse his assets and use it improperly (legally improper that is like in child porn bestiality etc) he could state he and his friends will use their spare time seeking out such content and reporting it to both the web site, their providers (ATT etc) and legal officials where possible.

 

One doesn't want the FBI or other local governments investigating such content. Web providers might not give a flying fuck however their providers and even internet providers do and will make it difficult for them. Providing a fair and very reasonable enforceable EULA will also help others feel more inclined to respect his wishes even perhaps report transgressions from individuals or groups against his content. This will also serve to not alienate those that do mod work expanding his body of work with armors and other assets which makes his works more valuable.

 

In the end the approach and execution of action is the key to being successful or being a failure (or just having to work 10x times harder to get 1% done)

 

[Numerals]

 

 

Warning

 

Guys.

 

This thread is being watched.

The mod authors can do what he/she wants. Period.

 

Avoid to post aggressive sentences and keep the tones low.

Or the thread will be closed for good.

 

So I'm confused mate. Are you suggesting that mod authors can do as they please, but not mod users? That's a little double standardish, don't you think? Once it hits the internet, it's there forever. To try and fight people off your creation with things like copyrights and such is a little absurd. Good luck to those trying to do that lol.

 

What's confusing? You create something you may do as you wish with it.

 

You use another's creation then outside your own personal use you should respect the creators wishes.

 

It's not complicated it's being a decent person or not being a decent person simple.

 

 

The problem with "decency" and "common courtesy" is that this model of relationship is dependent on mutual (self-)respect.

 

Once one side goes absolutely bananas, it's either checking the "real" (i.e. legal) rights and responsibilities (i.e. this thread) and falling back to them, descending into total chaos (i.e. **** you modders, I do what I want cus' a pirate is free) or submitting to the injustice (by remaining silent).

 

In this particular case, with the current information supplied to the general public (i.e. Ixum's account on events, the downright ridiculous SAM EULA, VP's "no comment" comment, SAM's effective self-exile into the corner of the greater modding community, etc.), most will deduce that one side in particular is.... not acting like a normal, rational person. Hence the need to check one's rights and responsibilities.

[RitualClarity]

Conversations take two (at a minimum) to have. In this instance there is only one person.

 

It usually takes conversing to solve problems and conflicts. ... there isn't any conversation or even a statement from both sides. (statement missing from VA)

 

This issue can't be resolved it can currently only be hostilely or passively acted on.

 

Hostile is to have people continue to attack one side or the other depending on their view. Considering the lack of any info this will be very polarized and highly speculative.

The other is to respect VP's wishes and move on and use other assets when needed and let the "dust settle"

 

The second choice might lead to further info and perhaps even relaxing of The EULA if not in actuality in function (that is greater flexibility and use will be allowed as VP will have gotten over the event(s) that caused this major reaction.

 

Now for VP leaving the greater community and not commenting. This can also be seen as him trying to avoid conflict or he was so distributed or upset with what was going on he wanted to isolate himself (and his creations ) This has happened similarly to many mod authors in the past (blow up, disappear discussed etc) It just so happens he did so to his own site and changed the EULA. Different action however could be the same cause.

 

Allowing things to calm down might encourage more forthcoming answers, maybe not directly but indirectly of what happened and why he did so and what does he intend to do in the future. Only after allowing the dust to settle can be be able to truly gage what the effect of these recent acts in the community (removal of mods etc) will do.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

It does and VP is a member here. If he wanted to give a reason why, he would of done so.

[Guest]

About 50% of this thread posts are attacking him.

If what RC said is reasonable (and I think it is), then this guy may just want to avoid the mess. And cruel and unjustified attacks.

 

Everybody commits errors, no exclusions.

 

The EULA, it can be fine (but not retroactive. That is not accepted in any Country of this word.)

Respect the guy. And don't blandly blame him/her.

 

More you are attacking, more a guy may feel inappropriate to answer (why do I have to give an answer to this bunch of assholes?)

 

 

[Impulseman45]

Hey Everyone,

I said I wasn't going to make another post, but I am. I have had a personal conversation with Ixum, I can't relate to anything in that conversation as he has not responded as of yet.

 

I am going to comment on the EULA situation briefly here and really set everyone on edge. EULA’s are often updated and made retroactive all the time and by some the world’s largest corporations. Every time you install an update in Windows you are agreeing to the new version of their EULA and each time it tends to be retroactive. Why do you think there is such a stink over the privacy issues in Windows 10? It’s not just privacy issues, but Microsoft has it written in their EULA that they can if and when they want, delete and or remove any illegal content on your computer. This means illegal  or pirated pictures, movies, games, and software. There have not been any cases of this as of yet, but they are reaching deeper into your computer than they have a right to, but you agreed to it in the EULA when you installed Windows 10 on your system. They are also doing this Windows 8.x and 7. They have a long history of retroactively changing the terms of their EULA all the time. Google does the same thing, as does numerous companies.

 

So saying that VP can't retroactively change his EULA is not correct. Of course in order for that to follow suite you have install the new version of said EULA in it. Older versions of his work are technically involved because he needs to insert that EULA in it, or he has to change the EULA on every site that is hosting it. Trying to broadly change the EULA and not having it posted in every version or site the mod is the issue here and it is why he has been trying to take SAM down everywhere it is. It is easier for him to insert the new EULA if it is only available on his site and LM. So this is why he has been trying to take it down everywhere. I think he is going about this the wrong way. He is trying to plug a hole in a dam with his finger. The problem is that SAM is out in the wilds of the internet and if he honestly thinks he is going to wrestle control back he is mistaken. So he is throwing around EULA threats and copyright infringements left and right. Look the guy has his own reasons for this and I will expound on them further later. But he should have thought of this from the very beginning when the SOS team approached him to use the new body he made. He should have just told them NO, and left it that. So he let them use it and SAM was born. But now he wants to retroactively abort the whole thing. Sorry it just isn't going to work and if anything it’s going to make the whole modding community very angry at him and never, ever trust him again. I for one never used SAM. I do use a nude body mods for Skyrim, always have. I just never felt the need to have a swinging cock in the game. Who is really going to see it anyway? Just me? So I never used SOS or SAM. Yes I liked the improved bodies, but there was always this heavy undercurrent of unease from VP and the various SOS and SAM team members. It always felt like this whole thing was close to imploding one way or another. Now it has. I say just go back to using Better males, the HAVOK physics be dammed and let VP and his cohorts know your displeasure over the whole thing. The real issue is that VP knows he has something people want, and he wants to have full control over that. And now I will give you one good reason. The rumor of paid mods has to have something to do with it. He wants to rein in and have total control over his meshes because if paid modding comes to fruition he wants to make money on them. He can't if there are unpaid versions floating around the internet. So he has to drop a draconian EULA to protect his rights to possibly making some cash. That is where this is really all coming down to. I don’t honestly think he is going to be able to make any money on SAM. For one, the mod has to go on Bethesda.net, and they do not allow adult content, or at least not male nude content. God forbid that a male nude body mod might actually get on the site and have Bethesda’s blessing. Not going to happen. Female bodies, possibly, male bodies, No Way. So I don’t know if he knows something we don’t, but he might. I asked him a question about Skyrim Enhanced possibly using Fallout 4 bodies instead of the old bodies and said no way that was not happening because it’s not the Fallout4 engine. Does he know more, or is he in the beta? We are starting to see several mod authors taking their mods down, or hiding them away from public view. Or older big mods that have been dead for some time start to show activity again. They are all waiting to see if Bethesda opens up paid modding again. If they do they want the newest versions of their mods on that bandwagon, period. And don't expect them, as any of the possible future paid mod authors to let any of the old free versions of their mods to remain. Every one of those mods will disappear and be replaced with paid only versions. If the old versions do remain they will be locked and or blocked from the new version of Skyrim. Not a hard thing to do really from what I have heard. Hell even I am tempted by this with one of my mods. So there is logic to all of this. Let’s just sit back and see how things go. I am not advocating anyone go over and be negative on VP. But if you are displeased maybe a new thread can be made somewhere and in it everyone that wants to can go in and tell VP in a general post that they are not happy and have stopped using SAM and SOS in protest. Sometimes, this kind of community statement can shift the tide. Again not advocating this, it is just an idea. Sometimes this kind of joint effort to get a message across works, sometimes it doesn’t

[shane4244]

A EULA is a signed legal contract. You can not alter a contract once it is signed if you wish to make changes you must make a new contract.

 

In the case of digital distrubution new EULA's (Contracts) are drawn up after updates and apply when you agree to them on the version you agreed on until there is a new contract. If you do not accept the update then you do not accept the new EULA and therefore have agreed to nothing (on the new EULA fro the new version old one you signed still stands for the old version). Windows 10 is a bad example by the way since you are forced to update and cannot actually use a previous version of Windows 10 (At least not for very long)

[Zor2k13]

Yeah this is what I thought it only makes sense that it is about money as usual. Well someone here could make a new body but since this is skyrim we are talking about it probably won't happen because it is an old game and fallout 4 is out now and almost all the dlc is out so modders will probably move to fallout 4 and forget skyrim.

 

As for male bodies not making it onto beth site, all they have to do is cite discrimination against gays and they get their nude male mods uploaded there. I hope the whole paid mos thing blows up in beth face and it probably will but only time will tell. Everyone wants money quick all the time because prices of things are going up fast including rents and property taxes so people are looking to compensate however they can. The rent really is too dam high only this time for everyone not just new york city.

[27X]

Hey Everyone,

I said I wasn't going to make another post, but I am. I have had a personal conversation with Ixum, I can't relate to anything in that conversation as he has not responded as of yet.

 

 

 

Every company that has tried to use a retroactive EULA in court has lost.

 

All of them.

[Jwer]

I see many good comments regarding EULAs and copyright. If the Moderator is right and half the comments have been critical of one party, then the remaining half have been quite productive - and I personally do not see the harm in registering frustration with a ploy to stifle extremely mild criticism of the mod author's policies by a very polite and well-spoken gentleman like Ixum.

 

If I read the thread right there are only a very few comments opposing Ixum's viewpoints, which seem to be as such: Ixum should have stayed silent, this is an example of users trying to claim more rights than authors (?!), and that one has a right to pull back content after the fact. And even with the few posts opposing Ixum, at least one manages to make some negative reference to his character. This is not a one-sided bashing, expecially considering Ixum has done so little beyond lay out the basic facts and the moral argument.

 

The most important thing to note is that this is really about principles, not law. This is also about the use of legalese, instead of real law, because (as others commented) there is no real argument to be made that Ixum has lost the rights previously granted. It remains to be seen whether content hosting sites will set common sense rules and force all to stick to them, or let "creative" legalism allow certain parties to stifle any dissent against their policies - well, at that point, who is setting the site policies really? This leads to a response to that first point: Ixum definitely should have mentioned this because all communities deserve better than to have long-standing agreements dissolved...especially for leverage. For the second point: It is probably true that some users would like to expand their rights, but Ixum mainly seems to ask that long-standing agreements are respected. Instead this seems more like opposing what is quite obviously a power grab by the mod author - using their supposed rights to force a win or draw in a debate they obviously didn't foresee when creating their original terms.

 

For the final point: Everyone should realize that predictability and stability are valued in law. Why? Because it's moral and useful to let people know the ground rules ahead of time. If the mod author had originally stated that they wished to reserve the right to deny uses of their mod for whatever reason whatsoever, perhaps the discussion would be different, and we would hopefully have had this discussion back when the work was originally released, and that criticism would have continued on to the present day, because the needs and desires (as opposed to rights) of users are naturally opposed to such silly things. Such a declaration would wage war against stability and predictability for users, and who thinks that is good for building a community, something every site needs to grow or even just stay relevant? That certainly does not mean that mod authors can't reserve the right to shoot themselves in the foot.

 

But the better analogy is like this: You invite somebody to your place, roll out the red carpet...and then yank it out from under them when they set foot on it, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Who will say that you were right to do that?

 

By the way, this is something that seems fairly easy to solve once and for all, if there is the appetite. Code repositories sometimes push for projects to use certain licenses. It seems to me that it would make more sense for LL to perhaps consider some common sense guidelines, if not some basic rules, about what sorts of rights various parties can claim. Most forums do have, after all, fairly simple user banning guidelines which have little to do with legalistic reasons, and much more to do about reducing disruptive behavior. I am of course hopeful when I write that, as I don't think that an effort to defend some basic rights of users is disruptive, but I certainly do view efforts to control users as disruptive (as they have so often proved in the past).

[myuhinny]

Many will not be moving to fallout 4 even if almost all the DLC's are out as many haven't even bought it yet and many others have and will not be going back to it as they didn't like it and see no point in modding it and skyrim has everything needed for many things like sex mods good nude mods. Me I won't be getting it till I decide to get it that is *if* I decide to get it and when that time arrives it'll be at the bottom of the bargain bin when I do buy it and the rest of beth games I will do the same thing. Only thing I have done with fallout 4 mods is to port them from fallout 4 to skyrim.

 

To make a male body for skyrim I think the best bet would be to see how hard it would be to make bodyslide presets of male bodies for bodyslide not sure if it would work or not but it would be worth a shot.

[DocClox]

you can't compare an orange with a mod.. these 2 don't mix.

Of course I can. Watch this:

 

A "mod" is a software package intended to change the way a game works, whereas an "orange" is a citrus fruit"

 

See? I just compared an orange with a mod. It was easy.

[Impulseman45]

Well there is a new male body mesh available and it is higher resolution than VP's is. Sure its going to take a bit more power to use it, but it does exist and it looks great. It does not have all the HAVOK features, but it could. I will only say look to a certain Russian mod site for it. The mesh might actually be from a popular 3D rending app from the look and quality of it. So I have no idea how long it will last or how far the author is going to try and take it.

 

As for Fallout 4 and modding and sex mods for it. The dam thing is a pain in the hind end to work with. I have been trying to port some of the GKB trees over to it for 2 weeks now and have almost given up. The tools we have just will not do the trick and there are just do many other issues to go into. I am personally thinking of just giving in and going back to Skyrim myself and do some updates to the mods I have. When things just can't be done as easy as they were for Skyrim, the mod makers that left will be back. Fallout 4 was a big letdown and Bethesda knows that. Lets face it, it is no Skyrim and it sure as hell is not a real Fallout game either. I for one am not very happy with it.

[Jazzman]

Would it be so much trouble to stay close to the topic? It's really hard to stand the settler mantra about the situation of and in Fallout4 24/7. I mean, every good man is free to go back to Skyrim, waiting for God Heimdallr blowing the Gjallar horn at the onset of Ragnarök... the collapse of the computer, that is. Fallout4 is just seven months old, what do these settlers expect? Incoming holy grail mod? Guess so.

[windpl]

 

Hey Everyone,

I said I wasn't going to make another post, but I am. I have had a personal conversation with Ixum, I can't relate to anything in that conversation as he has not responded as of yet.

 

 

 

Every company that has tried to use a retroactive EULA in court has lost.

 

All of them.

 

 

Because game are product, that want to be a service. They aren't.

 

It is quiet disheartening that this topic drag so long. One would think that if you liked someone work so much that inspired you to make one of your own you would have more respect for your inspiration.

[27X]

Would it be so much trouble to stay close to the topic? It's really hard to stand the settler mantra about the situation of and in Fallout4 24/7. I mean, every good man is free to go back to Skyrim, waiting for God Heimdallr blowing the Gjallar horn at the onset of Ragnarök... the collapse of the computer, that is. Fallout4 is just seven months old, what do these settlers expect? Incoming holy grail mod? Guess so.

 

When fallout4 stops sucking and bethesda realizes that losing modders to every decision being weighed solely in bethesda's favor that might stop happening.

 

Secondly you're conveniently ignoring the mod and ownership policies of FO4 will be the mod and ownership policies of SRSE, so it is entirely relevant to the conversation.

 

 

 

russian mod

 

It's quite available on the Nexus but since it has a custom skeleton and a nonmodular penis, there's quite a bit of work to be done getting it up to released standard that users would expect, so unless you're volunteering to do all that, it's not really germane to the conversation since this is about fully functional bits and their framework thereof.

[GrimReaper]

Many will not be moving to fallout 4 even if almost all the DLC's are out as many haven't even bought it yet and many others have and will not be going back to it as they didn't like it and see no point in modding it and skyrim has everything needed for many things like sex mods good nude mods. Me I won't be getting it till I decide to get it that is *if* I decide to get it and when that time arrives it'll be at the bottom of the bargain bin when I do buy it and the rest of beth games I will do the same thing. Only thing I have done with fallout 4 mods is to port them from fallout 4 to skyrim.

 

To make a male body for skyrim I think the best bet would be to see how hard it would be to make bodyslide presets of male bodies for bodyslide not sure if it would work or not but it would be worth a shot.

 

Jesus christ you people. Hey look a thread, better talk about how much I dislike FO4!

 

Maybe it is time to give FO4 the politics treatment if that shit even spills into serious topics now. Obnoxious as fuck, if you ask me.

[vipermagi]

Having wade through a number of different modding communities and seeing a variety of actions and reactions to a number of different individuals, my opinion is (and bear in mind, I'm a random nobody on the internet), if you are using someone elses mod to present to the public (be it in a mod collection, video, streaming service, etc etc), the original mod author has the right to say your not allowed to include his mod in the presentation. What he does not have the right to do (and I'm pretty sure he isn't trying to, but if he is, it's irrelevant) is tell you, you can't use his mod full stop. If someone makes content and intentionally publishes it for public consumption, and then later decide they don't want people using it, the only thing they can do is remove it from public access so no new people can get it and request that everyone who currently has it stops using it, but your not obligated to stop once it's on your computer.

 

In the U.S. at least, and a number of other countries, the content creator maintains intellectual rights on the digital property they sell you, this means that if they decide you can't display this in a public (as determined by local gov't's judiciary system) via mod packs, paid or free videos on demand, live streaming, etc, etc. However, once you have legally acquired (purchased, downloaded, what have you), the local copy is yours to do with as you please in private. Modify it, talk dirty to it, invite a few friends over to see it, just not take it out into public.

[Impulseman45]

First off, Skyrim and Fallout 4 talk is relevant as Bethesda had essentially made it that way with open mods to Consoles. The games essentially use the same engine, and those of us that mod both games go back and forth with the various difficulties and benefits. So making a blanket statement to keep the talk only on one subject when it has diverged is inevitable.

Also as it has been said, VP can not tall Ixum not to use his mod or assets on his computer for personal use. As long as he doesn't use the assets from the mod to further make and publicize his art he will be OK. But if he decides to continue to do what he was doing before, that is were VP is going to take issue. We do not know exactly what is going on, we can only speculate and put forward possibilities  of motive. The main thing is that Ixum has other avenues and assets he can use. It is up to him to decide what and how he wants to move forward.

 

As for the body a spoke of in the earlier post, Someone said it was on the Nexus. It is most certainly not available on the Nexus. If it was it has been taken down, or is there under another name. It is available on a few fringe sites and that is why I think it may come from either another game, or from a 3D graphics application. If you want to know about the body I spoke of its called Dizona male, you can Google it. I will not give any links to it, but the pictures up will say it all.

[GrimReaper]

First off, Skyrim and Fallout 4 talk is relevant as Bethesda had essentially made it that way with open mods to Consoles.

 

Except it is not for this topic. This has nothing to do with Bethesda or their EULA for Skyrim or Fallout 4, this is entirely a matter of what happens inside the modding community. More specifically, this seems to be a case of a mod author using his mod as leverage to resolve a personal dispute and trying to justify that with an EULA made by the mod author. It's more or less 'I can do whatever the fuck I want and dictate what you use on your personal computer because I am the mod author and you are not and justify that by calling it an EULA'. Given the fact that most modding communities put mod authors first and mod users second, in most cases for good reason, this might be a problem if modding communities encourage such behaviour by siding with mod authors regardless of what they do.

 

So, hijacking this thread with clamoring about how you desperately want to see the modding community of FO4 to fail just because you want it to fail is not only rather obnoxious, it's also a case of putting yourself and your opinion above all else.

[Jazzman]

So, hijacking this thread with clamoring about how you desperately want to see the modding community of FO4 to fail just because you want it to fail is not only rather obnoxious, it's also a case of putting yourself and your opinion above all else.

There's just one faction in life that tends to hijack everything for the sake of the propaganda of the own agenda - zealots. In this case the uncompromising zealotry is directed against the company policy of Bethesda which turns the 'settler campaign' into a religio-political one that denies any dissent from the agenda. Soon all those who like to play or work with Fallout4 will be called 'Bethesda apologists' or worse, teach me the guys. At the end of the day, however, this permanent going off topic might lead to enormous trouble in the Bethesda-related communities with casualties, again.

[Impulseman45]

I never said once that I was wishing the Fallout 4 mods community to fail so stop putting words in my mouth. I said as a Fallout 4 I was unhappy about the difficultly in making assets work in the game. Other may have mentioned wishing it to fail, I didn't. So go back and read what I said again.

[GrimReaper]

Since you didn't hijack the thread with FO4 related shenaningans, that part of my post wasn't directed at you. What was directed at you was me disagreeing with your claim that this was somehow relevant to the discussion. You didn't hijack the thread, but you defended said hijacking.

[shidiro]

 Oh God Yes someone need this SAM

 

Should Enjoy the free publicity