Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) repacked with the customary addons

[CliftonJD]

On 6/3/2021 at 8:08 AM, ElderGleam-Boy said:

Is that possible to let fighting slave be managed by nff or other similar mod? Mainly because I want to use the mod "defeat" (nff can set followers fall down expert the combat is over)

My fighting slave is like a fucking Superman.When they fall down,no joke in less than 10 seconds they are stand up again and charging at the enemy which cause defeat never get worked.

Or maybe add slave keep in bleed function in mcm plz...

no nff for slaves and the users who have tried follower management on slaves have had game breaking issues with it

On 6/3/2021 at 3:36 PM, ms_kimberline said:

Can you tell me please can all slave paremeters be trained to 100%? 

Because mine is stuck at 30 anger and dont train it anymore. It has 100 submission, combat 80, respect 81 and etc but no matter what i doing it dont train anything more, not even 0.00 percents are moving. 

Can you please give us detailed guide how to train all stats because one that written by some random guy isnt working. We need guide from mod creator.

that might be as far as it goes, but anger can sometimes be trained using brute force. try healing hands in 1 hand with flames in the other hand

[SleepyMonster]

8 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

that might be as far as it goes, but anger can sometimes be trained using brute force. try healing hands in 1 hand with flames in the other hand

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[DankAndLewd868]

When my slaves are Tied up and I try to f*ck them the only animation that plays is ZAP skull f*ck. I have other bondage type animations loaded. Sometimes it will even start playing the other animation but when the stage changes it changes to the ZAP animation. What could be causing that

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, ab_incognito said:

When my slaves are Tied up and I try to f*ck them the only animation that plays is ZAP skull f*ck. I have other bondage type animations loaded. Sometimes it will even start playing the other animation but when the stage changes it changes to the ZAP animation. What could be causing that

zap = Zaz Animation Pack, has a sexlab animation filter. in the zaz sexlab tab center of the window is the animation category to overide if needed. if you're only getting 1 animation(more-so if the other animations you do get switch to zap), disable that

Edited June 6, 2021 by CliftonJD

[ms_kimberline]

 

On 6/6/2021 at 4:44 AM, CliftonJD said:

no nff for slaves and the users who have tried follower management on slaves have had game breaking issues with it

that might be as far as it goes, but anger can sometimes be trained using brute force. try healing hands in 1 hand with flames in the other hand

This wont help - i already tried to beat slave, heal him, beat and heal at the same time and etc - anger is stuck at 30%. Is this a bug? Why submission around 100 and anger only 30?

[ms_kimberline]

On 6/6/2021 at 4:44 AM, CliftonJD said:

no nff for slaves and the users who have tried follower management on slaves have had game breaking issues with it

that might be as far as it goes, but anger can sometimes be trained using brute force. try healing hands in 1 hand with flames in the other hand

Can you explain waht are going on? Why my slave have 98% sub and all other stats like respect and combat stucked at 81 and 92 and they dont train anymore no matter wha i do to him at all. And it has ZERO Anger. Hos is this possible if i beat him a lot? I ask again - are this a bug? 

[CliftonJD]

On 6/7/2021 at 5:53 PM, ms_kimberline said:

Can you explain waht are going on? Why my slave have 98% sub and all other stats like respect and combat stucked at 81 and 92 and they dont train anymore no matter wha i do to him at all. And it has ZERO Anger. Hos is this possible if i beat him a lot? I ask again - are this a bug? 

zero anger, but over 33 into fear. emotions are random to which will be effected

[the3rdArc]

Is there any work around or fix for the naked bandit bug yet? Kinda sucks that i can't even capture generic npcs cause then the same variations would now show up naked.

[the3rdArc]

Is there any work around or fix for the naked bandit bug yet? Kinda sucks that i can't even capture generic npcs cause then the same variations would now show up naked.

[Harvald]

On 6/8/2021 at 12:53 AM, ms_kimberline said:

Can you explain waht are going on? Why my slave have 98% sub and all other stats like respect and combat stucked at 81 and 92 and they dont train anymore no matter wha i do to him at all. And it has ZERO Anger. Hos is this possible if i beat him a lot? I ask again - are this a bug? 

"Pose training" at 0.0 tie him/her up (with iron shackles from ZAZ) under " I'm going to make shure you stay here" or "You need to be punished" and forget about him/her for some time. Pose training will increase. Come back from time to time. Then use "You need to be punished" whip and/or fuck him/her. Anger and fear will increase, besides "Pose training". If you are not using PaheHSH it's a little difficult to find out, but there are 3 kinds of fuck: oral, anal and vaginal, and if she/he has 100% in one of this kinds, further training will take no effect.  So try out which sex training shows any effect. 

[CliftonJD]

13 hours ago, the3rdArc said:

Is there any work around or fix for the naked bandit bug yet? Kinda sucks that i can't even capture generic npcs cause then the same variations would now show up naked.

none yet that we know of

[remodel]

Thanks for the mod and support.  Really enjoy applying "justice" to Bandits.  Just got Merian, bad girl for attacking me, and I should get her sister so they can be together.

 

I'm having one issue though.  My first slave has a submission above 82, respect above 70, sex above 70, fear 23, anger above 30.  However, combat is 1.  I want to use her as my future trainer and want her combat higher to both protect home and handle unruly slaves.  

 

1) Not sure how to raise combat.  I don't seem to be getting anywhere with it.  So I know I'm missing something everyone else has figured out.

2) Also, I want her to use a bow more (think ranger), but she keeps attacking with a dagger.  Thinking of taking away the dagger and just leaving the bow.  If I could put her into NFF, I could fix it, but based on previous posts that looks like a game breaker.  Is this something I'm going to have to do with the console?

3) Don't like beating on slaves if I don't have to.  Do I really need more fear and anger?

 

I have PAHE, HSH, and AYGAS.  My goal with these are to sell "rehabilitated" slaves to inns and pimping them while having Lakeview staffed with slaves who can train and defend.  I'd prefer to use regular followers for base game quests. 

[Psalam]

5 minutes ago, remodel said:

Thanks for the mod and support.  Really enjoy applying "justice" to Bandits.  Just got Merian, bad girl for attacking me, and I should get her sister so they can be together.

 

I'm having one issue though.  My first slave has a submission above 82, respect above 70, sex above 70, fear 23, anger above 30.  However, combat is 1.  I want to use her as my future trainer and want her combat higher to both protect home and handle unruly slaves.  

 

1) Not sure how to raise combat.  I don't seem to be getting anywhere with it.  So I know I'm missing something everyone else has figured out.

2) Also, I want her to use a bow more (think ranger), but she keeps attacking with a dagger.  Thinking of taking away the dagger and just leaving the bow.  If I could put her into NFF, I could fix it, but based on previous posts that looks like a game breaker.  Is this something I'm going to have to do with the console?

3) Don't like beating on slaves if I don't have to.  Do I really need more fear and anger?

 

I have PAHE, HSH, and AYGAS.  My goal with these are to sell "rehabilitated" slaves to inns and pimping them while having Lakeview staffed with slaves who can train and defend.  I'd prefer to use regular followers for base game quests. 

I have found the easiest way to get a lot of training done is the following (you can find this elsewhere on this Thread as well since I've said it before):

 

After enslaving an NPC take them to a safe indoor location. Tell them that they are going to fight for you. Then chain them up (the command is something like I'm going to make sure you stay here - be careful to use the HSH command since the others won't necessarily give you the same outcome). After about a month in game (doing nothing else with them) you should have combat, pose and respect up to 100. If you have sex with them on a regular basis as well you can get that up to 100 as well.

 

I agree, fear and anger make no practical change in the salve and can be safely ignored.

 

I've never been hung up on how my slaves were armed but, I think you may have better luck with that by getting them out of HSH and into PAHE mode.

[remodel]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

After enslaving an NPC take them to a safe indoor location. Tell them that they are going to fight for you. Then chain them up (the command is something like I'm going to make sure you stay here - be careful to use the HSH command since the others won't necessarily give you the same outcome). After about a month in game (doing nothing else with them) you should have combat, pose and respect up to 100. If you have sex with them on a regular basis as well you can get that up to 100 as well.

Thanks for your response.  I did read most of this in previous posts in this thread but missed it about combat.  

 

Also, didn't now about differences in HSH and PAHE commands; probably skimmed over it and missed it.  I loaded them at the same time.  How do I tell the difference?

 

One more thing, when I first enslave a bandit, I get options like tie them up, PAHCore, and one more I think.  Is one option better than the others?

 

Really appreciate the assist.

[Psalam]

10 minutes ago, remodel said:

Thanks for your response.  I did read most of this in previous posts in this thread but missed it about combat.  

 

Also, didn't now about differences in HSH and PAHE commands; probably skimmed over it and missed it.  I loaded them at the same time.  How do I tell the difference?

 

One more thing, when I first enslave a bandit, I get options like tie them up, PAHCore, and one more I think.  Is one option better than the others?

 

Really appreciate the assist.

Sorry that I can't be more specific. There is more than one way to tie up a bandit when you capture them. The option that Musje added (when you have HSH) is the one that works best for me. I believe that the best way to tell you have to correct one is that it should give you an option for different types of binds (the type doesn't seem to matter).

 

I have also previously noted that I like leaving my "slaves in training" in Dragonsreach. It's safe, roomy and centrally located. That is not required however.

[Harvald]

8 hours ago, remodel said:

I'm having one issue though.  My first slave has a submission above 82, respect above 70, sex above 70, fear 23, anger above 30.  However, combat is 1.  I want to use her as my future trainer and want her combat higher to both protect home and handle unruly slaves.  

The most easy way to get a basic combat training is taking him with you to an easy fight ( A dungeon you cleared when your char still was low leveled . At first time slaves will fight "cautious" and not "brave" or "foolhardy". (or use manipulator to make them proteced) After the first fight you get the dialog option "Not in the mood for fighting" for up to three times. Chose you need to be punished for two times; first whip, second fuck and third time use the dialog option "If I don't see you fighting next time, you'll be in trouble" . Your slave will get a fighting training amount of 40 and that's a fine beginning.

 

Your slaves will use their class as slaves as well. If you enslave a bandit marksman he will be a slave marksman, if he is a bandit mage he will be a slave mage.

[remodel]

2 hours ago, Harvald said:

The most easy way to get a basic combat training is taking him with you to an easy fight ( A dungeon you cleared when your char still was low leveled . At first time slaves will fight "cautious" and not "brave" or "foolhardy". (or use manipulator to make them proteced) After the first fight you get the dialog option "Not in the mood for fighting" for up to three times. Chose you need to be punished for two times; first whip, second fuck and third time use the dialog option "If I don't see you fighting next time, you'll be in trouble" . Your slave will get a fighting training amount of 40 and that's a fine beginning.

 

Your slaves will use their class as slaves as well. If you enslave a bandit marksman he will be a slave marksman, if he is a bandit mage he will be a slave mage.

Thanks much!

 

She was an archer with a dagger when I took her.

[remodel]

Just dang!  Can't get combat to advance beyond 1!  I've tried every option under the don't want to fight dialog and it appears frozen at 1.  The two slaves are fighting well enough now.  At first they ran away, now they don't stop even after being knocked down (I'll step in when a knockdown happens, but the slaves get right up and go at it again). I'm training submission, respect, pose, and sex well enough; but not combat.  These two slaves have several values near 100, so it looks like their combat training won't happen.

 

I've looked through the Papyrus Logs but can't find anything other than the PAH combat training initialized.  I don't see any training errors.

 

Edit:  Tried something different from my first two and enabled combat when I first got Mona.  Following the fight for me dialog, when I tried to use the whip and shackles to gain some submission from her I got no where.  With the whip she would put her fists up as in a fight and the whip had no effect. Disabled combat and the whip worked and now I'm progressing with submission, and just started getting respect dialogs.  It seems to me combat and basic submission and respect are mutually exclusive.  Looks like I don't understand the mechanics of training a fully functional slave with all the skills.  What am I missing/doing wrong?

Edited June 18, 2021 by remodel

[CliftonJD]

On 6/17/2021 at 7:59 PM, remodel said:

Just dang!  Can't get combat to advance beyond 1!  I've tried every option under the don't want to fight dialog and it appears frozen at 1.  The two slaves are fighting well enough now.  At first they ran away, now they don't stop even after being knocked down (I'll step in when a knockdown happens, but the slaves get right up and go at it again). I'm training submission, respect, pose, and sex well enough; but not combat.  These two slaves have several values near 100, so it looks like their combat training won't happen.

 

I've looked through the Papyrus Logs but can't find anything other than the PAH combat training initialized.  I don't see any training errors.

 

Edit:  Tried something different from my first two and enabled combat when I first got Mona.  Following the fight for me dialog, when I tried to use the whip and shackles to gain some submission from her I got no where.  With the whip she would put her fists up as in a fight and the whip had no effect. Disabled combat and the whip worked and now I'm progressing with submission, and just started getting respect dialogs.  It seems to me combat and basic submission and respect are mutually exclusive.  Looks like I don't understand the mechanics of training a fully functional slave with all the skills.  What am I missing/doing wrong?

their training does slow down after submission gets around 90, but if you still had trouble training combat when you first catch them, dunno what's going on there

[remodel]

OK, So I'm slow.  I finally got combat training working.  What I didn't understand was that all punishment actions must take place under the "don't want to fight" dialog tree and for the whip to work, the slave must be stripped of armor before using the whip.  All combat training must take place under this dialog.  So for anyone else having issues with it: 

1) when you get the dialog "don't want to fight", strip the slave before entering into the "don't want to fight" dialog tree.

2) If you assault you'll also train anger.  Personally I don't care to increase anger, so I only do this once.

3) If you restrain; you can increase the combat skill even more when you go back into the "don't want to fight" dialog tree and whip the slave. This is where I'm having the best results.  It seamed to me that just restraining didn't do much.

4) Reminding the slave to fight didn't do a thing for training in my mod load.  Maybe the slave needs to be at a higher skill level for that to work?

 

So, one last question on training, please!  When some slaves reach above 70 respect, they no longer talk back to the PC, so I'm no longer getting the "I told you how to address me" dialog to improve that skill.  Just "You need punishing" restraining and whipping a slave seams to only improve submission,  Am I missing a dialog option for improving respect?  I guess I don't understand the dialog options for respect and need some advice here on an option or sequence I'm missing.

 

PS:  If you have Immersive Wenches Mod and when you rescue the enslaved wenches there is a subjugated wench guarding the slave wench; she'll have a powerful bow and generally be hanging back as a last resort.  You really want to take her as a combat slave; she comes with some magic and great combat skills.  The subjugated wench is a deadly wench!

 

Great Mod!

[CliftonJD]

On 6/27/2021 at 7:48 AM, remodel said:

2) If you assault you'll also train anger.  Personally I don't care to increase anger, so I only do this once.

3) If you restrain; you can increase the combat skill even more when you go back into the "don't want to fight" dialog tree and whip the slave. This is where I'm having the best results.  It seamed to me that just restraining didn't do much.

4) Reminding the slave to fight didn't do a thing for training in my mod load.  Maybe the slave needs to be at a higher skill level for that to work?

 

So, one last question on training, please!  When some slaves reach above 70 respect, they no longer talk back to the PC, so I'm no longer getting the "I told you how to address me" dialog to improve that skill.  Just "You need punishing" restraining and whipping a slave seams to only improve submission,  Am I missing a dialog option for improving respect?  I guess I don't understand the dialog options for respect and need some advice here on an option or sequence I'm missing.

 

at higher training levels the odds of being disrespectful decrease drastically until they get angry.

[Seaperv76]

I am about to give up!! 

So I have been trying to install this mod since yesterday... First it took me forever to even get the mod working (MCM was blank, unable to start mod). I stripped this profile down to the bare bones... Finally get it working, MCM now works, I am able to start the mod... So I save the game (orginally using LAL and haven't even clicked on the Maria statue yet)... but now it won't load the save! I get the old "infinite" load screen.  I run a script cleaner.. find an error with PAH's LAL plugin... so I get a clean save from nexus (start just outside the cave, after Helga).. disable LAL and that plugin.  Again, it loads.. all the mods and plugins load and start properly. So again, I save the game... and again it will not load!  Stuck on the load screen again!  So Install and try a bunch of "fixes" Nothing! Nothing works!  I obviously want to play this game, but I need to be able to save it and load it!  I am at witts end. I have never had a mod give me so many problems (and believe me I am not some noobie! I have used a lot of the LL mods and Sexlab mods before. 

 

I will include my load order

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     paradise_halls.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 14  e     hdtHighHeel.esm
 15  f     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 16 10     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 17 11     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
 18 12     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 19 13     SkyUI.esp
 20 14     UIExtensions.esp
 21 15     RaceMenu.esp
 22 16     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 23 17     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 24 18     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 25 19     SGEyebrows.esp
 26 1a     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 27 1b     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     XPMSE.esp
 29 1d     FNIS.esp
 30 1e     FNISSexyMove.esp
           My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
 31 1f     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
           pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
 32 20     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 33 21     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
 34 22     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
 35 23     pahe_compatibility_pah8-3.esp
           Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp
           pahe-tdf-patch.esp
           Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
           Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp

[DonQuiWho]

@CliftonJD

 

Hi there.  Having fun with [EDIT] LE 7.5.9 thanks

 

One query though, please, but no rush

 

In my Slaves list (first 50 list, as have never got beyond that yet before hand offs to HSH & Aygas), I seem to have duplicates of some enslaved NPCs.  ie the same NPC will show up twice on the list, once shown at the in-game location, and once in the clone cell

 

Anything that I might be doing wrong to get that? 

 

I notice that sometimes I have to click twice, 2 clicks in close succession, on the 'Enslave Health' option in the Pop up Window before the enslavement animation and dialogue happen, but that doesn't seem to be a consistent enough reason for the duplicates that have appeared

 

And how do I/can I safely remove the duplicate from the list - ie the one shown as in the clone cell - without screwing up the one in game? ?

 

As I said, there's no tearing rush as the game's working fine, thanks, and, anyway, I don't intend to enslave the whole of Skyrim by tomorrow  ....

Edited July 2, 2021 by donkeywho

[tinkerbelle]

12 hours ago, Seaperv76 said:

I am about to give up!! 

So I have been trying to install this mod since yesterday... First it took me forever to even get the mod working (MCM was blank, unable to start mod). I stripped this profile down to the bare bones... Finally get it working, MCM now works, I am able to start the mod... So I save the game (orginally using LAL and haven't even clicked on the Maria statue yet)... but now it won't load the save! I get the old "infinite" load screen.  I run a script cleaner.. find an error with PAH's LAL plugin... so I get a clean save from nexus (start just outside the cave, after Helga).. disable LAL and that plugin.  Again, it loads.. all the mods and plugins load and start properly. So again, I save the game... and again it will not load!  Stuck on the load screen again!  So Install and try a bunch of "fixes" Nothing! Nothing works!  I obviously want to play this game, but I need to be able to save it and load it!  I am at witts end. I have never had a mod give me so many problems (and believe me I am not some noobie! I have used a lot of the LL mods and Sexlab mods before. 

 

I will include my load order

 

 

Spoiler

0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     paradise_halls.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 14  e     hdtHighHeel.esm
 15  f     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 16 10     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 17 11     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
 18 12     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 19 13     SkyUI.esp
 20 14     UIExtensions.esp
 21 15     RaceMenu.esp
 22 16     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 23 17     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 24 18     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 25 19     SGEyebrows.esp
 26 1a     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 27 1b     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     XPMSE.esp
 29 1d     FNIS.esp
 30 1e     FNISSexyMove.esp
           My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
 31 1f     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
           pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
 32 20     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 33 21     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
 34 22     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
 35 23     pahe_compatibility_pah8-3.esp
           Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp
           pahe-tdf-patch.esp
           Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
           Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp

 

I'm not noticing anything wrong with your load order.  The only things I'd suggest:

A.  Are you using SKSE and is it the latest version.

B.  Are you running Skyrim Legendary Edition or Skyrim Special Edition?  And did you make certain you got the mods for the right Skyrim version?

Edit:  C.  You ran FNIS after each change, right?

 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by tinkerbelle

[Seaperv76]

6 hours ago, tinkerbelle said:

 

This is why this is racking my brain...

A) yes, SkSE up to date,

B) It is Legendary (maybe this is a good case to use SE)... but I will double check to make sure I am not using any SE files (good point).

C) yes, updated FNIS

 

Oh and just to double check my system etc... I used several different profiles/mods last night with no problems.