Content Consumer's Alternate Starts

[karlpaws]

Well, I guess he didn't tell you to put that load order in a spoiler so you didn't know to do that, and you're new...  but haven't read enough of the threads to find out that is what you should do.

 

I don't see some mods like Better Dialog controls, so I'd say search back or really read through the thread to see what other suggestions there are for extra, good to have, mods.

 

Next, are the [CCAS] I am in a dark tale lines showing up and you choose them but it does not start the game, do you not see them at all, or do they show up but you cannot choose them?

 

Then, look at your papyrus log and search for [ccas] lines that should say if things are happening, having errors or not showing up at all. There are lots of directions on the board already on how to do that.

[KingJones123]

Actually I can choose them, but when I try and sleep in the bed nothing happens screen goes black then Is stuck in the cell, I could literally stay in that same spot for an hour, and nothing will happen. it doesn't matter what I choose they won't work. thanks for telling me. ya I am pretty new on this site.

[fizzybutt]

Actually I can choose them, but when I try and sleep in the bed nothing happens screen goes black then Is stuck in the cell, I could literally stay in that same spot for an hour, and nothing will happen. it doesn't matter what I choose they won't work. thanks for telling me. ya I am pretty new on this site.

 

I'm not sure what the choices look like, but if you don't have quite a few of the soft dependencies, (SD+, Angrims, milk mod, stories, whateverelsehehaslisted) then I think that's what happens. It'll go back to the cell. I've got ... 99% of them and the only one where it sticks in the cell for a moment is the giant start. And I think it's because it takes slave tats a moment to register on your body. I just give it a minute and it'll pop me where I belong. 

 

I don't see very many of the other mods that this one will look for to give you those options, so maybe that's what's going on. Does the same thing happen if you choose the option that says "no requirements"?

 

**Also not sure if the other two alt start extensions would give you trouble. Have you tried disabling those two and trying again?

[KingJones123]

Well actually I do have those mods you listed, I checked my papyrus log and it said that a lot of scripts couldn't be ran, do to sertain bits and pieces missing from the scripts.

[karlpaws]

 

Actually I can choose them, but when I try and sleep in the bed nothing happens screen goes black then Is stuck in the cell, I could literally stay in that same spot for an hour, and nothing will happen. it doesn't matter what I choose they won't work. thanks for telling me. ya I am pretty new on this site.

 

I'm not sure what the choices look like, but if you don't have quite a few of the soft dependencies, (SD+, Angrims, milk mod, stories, whateverelsehehaslisted) then I think that's what happens. It'll go back to the cell. I've got ... 99% of them and the only one where it sticks in the cell for a moment is the giant start. And I think it's because it takes slave tats a moment to register on your body. I just give it a minute and it'll pop me where I belong. 

 

I don't see very many of the other mods that this one will look for to give you those options, so maybe that's what's going on. Does the same thing happen if you choose the option that says "no requirements"?

 

**Also not sure if the other two alt start extensions would give you trouble. Have you tried disabling those two and trying again?

 

 

Most of the options that depend on other mods just won't show up if the mod is not loaded.

 

 

Actually I can choose them, but when I try and sleep in the bed nothing happens screen goes black then Is stuck in the cell, I could literally stay in that same spot for an hour, and nothing will happen. it doesn't matter what I choose they won't work. thanks for telling me. ya I am pretty new on this site.

 

Well actually I do have those mods you listed, I checked my papyrus log and it said that a lot of scripts couldn't be ran, do to sertain bits and pieces missing from the scripts.

 

That bug is something that other people have had.  Causes and solutions have been user dependant as they seem connected to mods not working together when you have enough.

 

The script errors may or may not be the issue, as some mods that are not involved might have things they cannot do, and do not need done.

 

So, look back through the thread and find some of the suggestions. One of them will probably work for you.

[Content Consumer]

I've found a bug I can't start any of the Alternate starts  in this mod it's on the bottom of my load order, I really need help. can someone point out how to help me please.

 

Insert standard boilerplate here:

• If you're using any of the following mods, try disabling them: JUGS, Eternal Darkness Redone, ImprovementInn, OBIS, Genesis, Maria Eden, Skyrim Unbound, Populated Skyrim.
• If you're looking for the Chaurus Breeder scenario, make sure to activate and fully configure EC+ before you sleep in the LAL bed. Ideally, you'll be saving the game, exiting, and reloading it before even talking to the Mara statue.
• Make sure that Live Another Life is very low in your load order, ideally just before LAL mods (like CCAS), bashed patches, TES5Merged patch, etcetera. LOOT generally does a good job at sorting these mods.
• If you've been using an older save in the starting cell, that could cause problems - try beginning a brand new game instead.
• If you're using Mod Organizer or another mod manager, that might be the cause of some issues. I recommend manually installing just to be on the safe side.
• Make sure you're using EZ2C or Better Dialogue Controls or some other mod that fixes the vanilla engine bug with dialogue (NB: USKP or USLEEP does not fix this bug). If you plain don't want to use a mod like that, try using the arrow keys instead of the mouse in the dialogue menu.
• If you're having a common problem where you sleep in the LAL bed, the screen fades to black, and fades back in and nothing appears to have happened, try jdough's fix: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/60586-content-consumers-alternate-starts/page-27?do=findComment&comment=1596428
• Note that the Giant Offering, Soulgem Oven, Chaurus Egg Breeder, Expectant Mother, and Egg Factory scenarios can take several seconds for everything to finish initializing after sleeping in the LAL bed. 
• If you try all of that and still nothing is working, attach a copy of your papyrus log (instructions can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22241-sexlab-troubleshooting-support-guide/)and I'll see if I can find anything relevant in it. A copy of your load order may also help. To keep the thread clean, please don't just paste the text directly in your post - put it in a spoiler tag or attach it as a text file instead.

Your problem specifically seems to be #7 on the list. Try jdough's fix and see if that helps.

 

That bug is something that other people have had.  Causes and solutions have been user dependant as they seem connected to mods not working together when you have enough.

And I really wish I could figure out a general solution for it.

I'm pretty sure (but not certain, sadly) that it's not something I've done. And it's always irritating when you're asking for help only to be told it's your own fault. Even when it is.

[bicobus]

I have often seen OBIS as a source of conflict, but I couldn't understand why. What does the OBIS do for CCAS to be importuned so?

[Content Consumer]

I have often seen OBIS as a source of conflict, but I couldn't understand why. What does the OBIS do for CCAS to be importuned so?

 

Only the Bandit Honeypot scenario. I don't use OBIS, so I can't confirm though. I'm just a parrot.

[Content Consumer]

Updated the OP - hopefully these troubleshooting notes will be more clear.

[Content Consumer]

Just FYI - the next version will use the new Apropos functionality and seed appropriate W&T settings alongside sexlab stats.

[fizzybutt]

Thanks for the heads up, just redownloaded that file yesterday to see what's changed from when it first came out. 

[xeivous]

I can't seem to get through the Trapped in Oblivion Start. Grabbing the Keeper key isn't too difficult but when i head back i end up in a room with a pair of orbs that sends me to a room full of essential fire dogs and nothing to activate or go through, and the only thing that i see that even looks important is some crystal shit that doesn't do anything as far as i can tell.

[Content Consumer]

I can't seem to get through the Trapped in Oblivion Start. Grabbing the Keeper key isn't too difficult but when i head back i end up in a room with a pair of orbs that sends me to a room full of essential fire dogs and nothing to activate or go through, and the only thing that i see that even looks important is some crystal shit that doesn't do anything as far as i can tell.

 

The way through that area is sort of hidden. If you explore the place that looks a bit like a kitchen, you may hear the sound of stone grating against stone - this is a door opening. Then head back the way you came and you'll find the way out. The fire dogs won't pursue you into the upside-down area.

 

The crystals are there basically because I like the way they look.

[Morferous]

Updated the OP

 

But 410 still requires Xenius Prison Overhaul.

[xeivous]

 

I can't seem to get through the Trapped in Oblivion Start. Grabbing the Keeper key isn't too difficult but when i head back i end up in a room with a pair of orbs that sends me to a room full of essential fire dogs and nothing to activate or go through, and the only thing that i see that even looks important is some crystal shit that doesn't do anything as far as i can tell.

 

The way through that area is sort of hidden. If you explore the place that looks a bit like a kitchen, you may hear the sound of stone grating against stone - this is a door opening. Then head back the way you came and you'll find the way out. The fire dogs won't pursue you into the upside-down area.

 

The crystals are there basically because I like the way they look.

 

Thought i heard that, didn't know it actually did anything. Everything seems to be in order now.

[Content Consumer]

 

Updated the OP

 

But 410 still requires Xenius Prison Overhaul.

 

 

Ah, heck. I'm just going to say that's a deliberate attempt to make sure people are paying attention. 

[salamence11]

ey, love the mod, but i think ive rabn into a new bug. At least, i can't find anyone else having had it. I've downloaded a load of the mods required for the starts, making sure that all are properly installed with their individual prerequisites, and loaded up a new save from the prison. talking to the statue of mara, I go to CC's starts and only 4 show up. The Giant offering, milk farm, dwemer robot and I forget the 4th i'm afraid. it's always these 4, regardless of how many times I tweak my load order or change other mods i'm using. Any idea what i've done wrong?

[Content Consumer]

ey, love the mod, but i think ive rabn into a new bug. At least, i can't find anyone else having had it. I've downloaded a load of the mods required for the starts, making sure that all are properly installed with their individual prerequisites, and loaded up a new save from the prison. talking to the statue of mara, I go to CC's starts and only 4 show up. The Giant offering, milk farm, dwemer robot and I forget the 4th i'm afraid. it's always these 4, regardless of how many times I tweak my load order or change other mods i'm using. Any idea what i've done wrong?

 

It sounds like it might be a vanilla bug rearing its head. Are you using Better Dialogue Controls or EZ2C Dialogue Menu? Those two fix the bug.

If you don't want to use either of those, using the keyboard in the dialogue menu instead of the mouse should get you to those "hidden" options.

[jenova666]

I am just wondering. Is it possible to make a start for a wild beastest that supports the mod Untamed or something? Like a women that have rejected society and rather wants to create a pack of animals and live with them instead of in cities and normal homes? I can't find any kind of alt start that suit this kind of roleplay. I have no idea how to create myself so that is why I am wondering.

[Content Consumer]

I am just wondering. Is it possible to make a start for a wild beastest that supports the mod Untamed or something? Like a women that have rejected society and rather wants to create a pack of animals and live with them instead of in cities and normal homes? I can't find any kind of alt start that suit this kind of roleplay. I have no idea how to create myself so that is why I am wondering.

 

Technically, it would be possible... but it would be hacky and prone to potential problems to do it from the start. Your best bet is to just use the creature start and then manually add the creature to your pack with Untamed instead.

[jenova666]

 

I am just wondering. Is it possible to make a start for a wild beastest that supports the mod Untamed or something? Like a women that have rejected society and rather wants to create a pack of animals and live with them instead of in cities and normal homes? I can't find any kind of alt start that suit this kind of roleplay. I have no idea how to create myself so that is why I am wondering.

 

Technically, it would be possible... but it would be hacky and prone to potential problems to do it from the start. Your best bet is to just use the creature start and then manually add the creature to your pack with Untamed instead.

 

Wait which creature start? You mean enslaved by a creature or something completely separate?

Edit: However I do think just a plain "Fuck you society. I will live in this cave (maybe one of the Beastess Lairs caves, as those are honestly the best immersive homes I have been able to find) naked now" is enough to be honest. I haven't seen any kind of start like this.

[Content Consumer]

 

 

I am just wondering. Is it possible to make a start for a wild beastest that supports the mod Untamed or something? Like a women that have rejected society and rather wants to create a pack of animals and live with them instead of in cities and normal homes? I can't find any kind of alt start that suit this kind of roleplay. I have no idea how to create myself so that is why I am wondering.

 

Technically, it would be possible... but it would be hacky and prone to potential problems to do it from the start. Your best bet is to just use the creature start and then manually add the creature to your pack with Untamed instead.

 

Wait which creature start? You mean enslaved by a creature or something completely separate?

Edit: However I do think just a plain "Fuck you society. I will live in this cave (maybe one of the Beastess Lairs caves, as those are honestly the best immersive homes I have been able to find) naked now" is enough to be honest. I haven't seen any kind of start like this.

 

Yes, the enslaved by a creature. They use SD+ to handle the enslavement, but it's not a hard requirement - if you don't use SD+, you basically just start in the cave near a creature.

 

A minimalist scenario is certainly possible too. I'll put it on my to-do list.

 

I can't use Beastess Lairs without making it a dependency. That is, it might be possible, but it invites potential problems. I don't want to do it with added creatures, but for just the player without any other NPCs added into the mix it might be okay... I'll look into it.

[karlpaws]

I thought there was either discussion or actual implementation of an Untamed start via Divines Guide You by jfrasier.

 

I know there was discussion about the Beastess Caves but it never was implemented, lack of markers to put the PC I think.

 

Don't remember if the "enslaved to a creature" starts required SD or I just console changed the variable to enable it. Short of a journal entry though they would work as a "Furry friends are best friends" kind of start.  Would give you 4 caves to camp out in.

 

There is another mod on Nexus called Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim that puts a variety of little caves and holes around that would also work nicely.  All have beds to sleep and usually a cooking pot. Do not have fast travel enabled right away like Beastess Caves do, but easy enough to find or just COC yourself into them.

[Content Consumer]

I thought there was either discussion or actual implementation of an Untamed start via Divines Guide You by jfrasier.

 

I know there was discussion about the Beastess Caves but it never was implemented, lack of markers to put the PC I think.

 

Don't remember if the "enslaved to a creature" starts required SD or I just console changed the variable to enable it. Short of a journal entry though they would work as a "Furry friends are best friends" kind of start.  Would give you 4 caves to camp out in.

 

There is another mod on Nexus called Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim that puts a variety of little caves and holes around that would also work nicely.  All have beds to sleep and usually a cooking pot. Do not have fast travel enabled right away like Beastess Caves do, but easy enough to find or just COC yourself into them.

 

Eh? I thought all Divines Guide You did was enable some animals right there and allow you to take over adding them to your pack at that point. I'll check it out!

 

The lack of a marker is one of the barriers to using Beastess Lairs. However, now that I think about it, they might have a COC marker I could tap into. Even if not, I could spend a few hours testing out generic objects and try to find one that doesn't make the player fall through the floor when arriving. Another problem is finding enough such objects or markers to add a pack into. All in all, I'd love to use Beastess Caves, but there's really no way to do so easily.

 

I haven't tried Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim, but if it's anything like Beastess Lairs, it sounds like my kind of mod. I love those little self-contained hidey holes and stuff!

[karlpaws]

 

I thought there was either discussion or actual implementation of an Untamed start via Divines Guide You by jfrasier.

 

I know there was discussion about the Beastess Caves but it never was implemented, lack of markers to put the PC I think.

 

Don't remember if the "enslaved to a creature" starts required SD or I just console changed the variable to enable it. Short of a journal entry though they would work as a "Furry friends are best friends" kind of start.  Would give you 4 caves to camp out in.

 

There is another mod on Nexus called Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim that puts a variety of little caves and holes around that would also work nicely.  All have beds to sleep and usually a cooking pot. Do not have fast travel enabled right away like Beastess Caves do, but easy enough to find or just COC yourself into them.

 

Eh? I thought all Divines Guide You did was enable some animals right there and allow you to take over adding them to your pack at that point. I'll check it out!

 

The lack of a marker is one of the barriers to using Beastess Lairs. However, now that I think about it, they might have a COC marker I could tap into. Even if not, I could spend a few hours testing out generic objects and try to find one that doesn't make the player fall through the floor when arriving. Another problem is finding enough such objects or markers to add a pack into. All in all, I'd love to use Beastess Caves, but there's really no way to do so easily.

 

I haven't tried Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim, but if it's anything like Beastess Lairs, it sounds like my kind of mod. I love those little self-contained hidey holes and stuff!

 

 

I might remember wrong, but placing you and animals I think is what it did.  Not sure now if you could be placed at it, or just had to find the object, similar to finding the altar for the Molag Bal vampire/succubus option.

 

I have used COC to enter both the beastess lairs and the HHoS locations, though I'm not sure what options there are for spawning in animals. Bedrolls might work, though a LOT of the HHoS locations are fairly small and would be quite cramped with 2-3 wolves.

 

HHoS is a really nice little mod, even has a couple journals and other story material added from the perspective of an explorer and how he found some of them. There is an addon that has 4 more attached to the walled cities and a criminal outside Riverwood with a scrap of journal detailing the escape routes into or out of the cities and some narrow escapes.  There are even 2 locations on Solsteim.

 

Animal wise, there is a hollow tree stump not far from the Falkreath lair and an actual wolf lair just north of the giant camp on the west end of the Whiterun plains (where you get Ysolda's tree sap). Several other holes in mountain sides: north of Fort Kastav/Windhelm and between the mage guild quest line's fort that thief ran off to and the dragon mound just east of Whiterun.  Another on Hrothgar's mountain.. could be the home of the troll that is usually on the cliff and jumps down on you.

 

Might as well stop now.  You can install the mod and use the console to "help hhos" and get a list of all the places. CoC to them, look around, leave to get the map marker and check the next. Take a good look around the one outside Riften though. Couple funny little bits in there.