vram1974 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 This whole argument that certain people bring about OP wanting the women look like porn stars (even if it might be true) truly brings alot of credibility on a site with porn mods, where sexualizing and objectifying women is an everyday business... wtf do these people even do here? I got the impression they just simply copy whatever the hell is popular to say now. I don't even understand the feministspeak of "objectifying" or "sexualizing" and what that could possibly mean. This is a fantasy game with roleplaying in which there exists ghouls and supermutants. On what planet is modifying a woman's appearance objectifying her and yet everything else is entirely believable?
Aria Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 This whole argument that certain people bring about OP wanting the women look like porn stars (even if it might be true) truly brings alot of credibility on a site with porn mods, where sexualizing and objectifying women is an everyday business... wtf do these people even do here? I got the impression they just simply copy whatever the hell is popular to say now. I don't even understand the feministspeak of "objectifying" or "sexualizing" and what that could possibly mean. This is a fantasy game with roleplaying in which there exists ghouls and supermutants. On what planet is modifying a woman's appearance objectifying her and yet everything else is entirely believable? Well look at some of the mods here, not only FO related. Dont get me wrong though, no feminist here, just wondering about the people who kinda bring these feminist arguments in what they even do here.
Sacremas Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Personally, I didn't find Miranda attractive. Her facial shape just didn't do it for me. She was more handsome than beautiful. Some trivia, Miranda's face is actually a render of her voice actress. True; Mostly I think it's the texture's fault. The faces have improved rather largely since Fallout 3 where you found easily women and men alike with actual errors with their faces (unnatural features or mismatches that pretty much had to be explained as being a mutant otherwise) leading to the Project Beauty mod, which actually wasn't a beauty mod as much as a bugfix mod. There's a lot less of that needed for Fallout 4, and while the textures for Skyrim was hideous, if you use something like SG Renewal or Fair Skin and give it to a woman like Lisette or Camilla in Skyrim, she doesn't look too bad, I mean not Bijin quality but even so. Personally I stopped playing Fallout 4 only because high level is unbalanced, shortly after 35 or so enemies become more and more bullet sponges where multiple shotgun blasts to the unhelmeted face doesn't kill them, and I can't live with that. Once I find a rebalancer that makes health and the like cap out for both PC and NPC (bosses and super mutants are fine, unnamed raiders and gunners are not) at some point, then I'll go back to playing it. Actually I may make such a mod on my own, but I'll wait until the GECK if so, for now I'm back to Skyrim.
Kendo 2 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 This whole argument that certain people bring about OP wanting the women look like porn stars (even if it might be true) truly brings alot of credibility on a site with porn mods, where sexualizing and objectifying women is an everyday business... wtf do these people even do here? I got the impression they just simply copy whatever the hell is popular to say now. I don't even understand the feministspeak of "objectifying" or "sexualizing" and what that could possibly mean. This is a fantasy game with roleplaying in which there exists ghouls and supermutants. On what planet is modifying a woman's appearance objectifying her and yet everything else is entirely believable? Well look at some of the mods here, not only FO related. Dont get me wrong though, no feminist here, just wondering about the people who kinda bring these feminist arguments in what they even do here. Simple explanation; they're morons bombarded with liberal internet spew that goes against their base feelings and common sense. They end up being conflicted between what they want and what others are telling them they should or should not want; all based on a skewed social agenda. Anyway, there is no valid excuse Bethesda fans can make for how people are artistically presented in the games. Butt-ugly textures and poorly rigged meshes with recycled animations. It is almost 2016 and when compared to other games on the market right now Bethesda has no fucking excuse, nor can a valid one be made by fans on their behalf. I could understand if Bethesda games were stylized like in Badlands2, Bioshock Infinite or even Alice Return to Madness; but Bethesda games are not artistically styled to represent a genre. They are meant to represent human beings in a non-cartoony way and they fucking suck at it. But that still doesn't explain the lack of will or talent on Bethesda's part, much less fans trying to dismiss a valid point (the crappy bodies and textures) just for the sake of defending a game aspect THEY KNOW sucks. I can say this; the people in this thread questioning its intent and who are more than prepared to correct others are currently using quality nude mesh and texture replacers in whatever piece of Bethesda shit they're playing. They are using them, but pointing fingers at others...which circles back to my 'simple explanation'.
TheDude2014 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Betheda is a typical American company and using ugly female characters is political correctness, that's all. Japanese gamers and BLZ never made female ugly at all They never made them realistic or functional, either. Also horrific eye diseases. Realistic or functional ? Why I have to face a realistic , functional and ugly woman in a game world? Does any female movie stars show their realistic and functional faces? Sadly it is cause of, movies, games and every other sort of media. That men and women are subjugated to false ideas, that if u are not built like a pornstar or strong yet lightly feminine man. Then you are average or ugly by default, cause of this slowly but surely the standards of men and women have risen. Back in the day (around middle ages), chunky girls used to be more attractive then thin ones. Based on the idea that if u were thin then u were poor or unfed. The idea is that we judge others without even knowing who they are. First by appearance, second by way they act, third by personality. I mean we all seen that guy who looks like total asshole, just by way he looks and walks. After u talk him for week and u see his personality, is that of a misunderstood nice guys who had a hard life. We judge every person we see subconsciously, Even i am, judged by way i act at times and way i appear, before people can even know me. The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. -Friedrich Nietzsche I live by this philosophy, I do not care what people, or media says i must look like. My appearance is mine, of my own making and molding. I long await the day. That the rest of the world, opens they're eyes and does not what others say, but what they choose to do! Sorry, buddy, but that's just, like, your opinion, man. Women are wonderful creatures because they are as varied and diverse as flowers. Some are large, some are small, some are delicate, others are hardened, some are thin and wiry, and then others curve like the mountain roads of the Dolomites. Real women in real life are more than some simplistic triangular slider from muscular man to obese blimp to bulemic stick figure. Those are the default options Bethesda gave us. A real life human: Sir, Is it not true that everything is a opinion and or interpretation? I say that people try to force they're beliefs on others and you say that is my opinion? I fear either you did not understand the depth of the subject i was trying to convey, or are blind to the idea that society has ridden you of your own opinion, which is the foundation of my subject. Ofc women are diverse physically, we are all different. Never one the same copy as another, even if we were. Different events would change us physically and mentally. Back to point though, lol. What is it that says a women is pretty? The animal side in us? Big hips for birthing, large breast for milk, or healthy appearance? Maybe it is what you think, that is the right def of what a woman should be? Or may it be, that we all perceive things differently and are just afraid, that society would laugh at us for going out with the fat chick, older and or handicapped? That are friends and family would judge us behind are backs? Maybe propaganda has a diverse effect that subconsciously makes us think what is pretty, so we have no longer control of our own opinion. That is called subjugating the masses, something society and especially governments are best at. So, in easier terms my subject was propaganda and subjugating the masses. Since i quoted other guy about his opinion to not face realism, i used games as a example, ofc i thought people would understand the depth and not the cover of the book.. Anyways games influence others slightly, but when u add all the other stuff, Advertisements, movies, news. Soon people don't know what is real or wrong. Fact from fiction, and soon enough the fabrics of reality slowly becomes lost. Ofc i believe, that all these propaganda and subjugating is having a highly negative effect to individualism. I am sorry, here i have blabbered on about something deep and sensitive, on a site for adult mods. Hehe, Ofc even if we are perverted in nature I thought, i could find someone worthy to debate with me ^^. Do forgive me, I can be philosophical and passive aggressive at times.
Sacremas Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 No that is a good and valid point to this discussion, if people didn't have as varied opinions on what makes a good looking woman there wouldn't be as many separate body replacers on the Nexus, everyone would just use the first one unless a later one was made with better polygons or the like.
Jexsam Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Simple explanation; they're morons bombarded with liberal internet spew that goes against their base feelings and common sense. They end up being conflicted between what they want and what others are telling them they should or should not want; all based on a skewed social agenda. I can't say I've ever seen any feminazi bile leveled at Bethesda, let alone any legitimate feminists. It's not impossible they're, at least in part, trying to avoid that kind of attention, but if they're not actively under pressure, what sense would it make for that to be the main reason? Incompetence seems like the most sensible cause (based on the old "don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain" idea), followed by a legitimate attempt at artistic integrity. Makes a lot more sense to me than trying to twist it to support a conservative agenda.
Aria Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 This whole argument that certain people bring about OP wanting the women look like porn stars (even if it might be true) truly brings alot of credibility on a site with porn mods, where sexualizing and objectifying women is an everyday business... wtf do these people even do here? I got the impression they just simply copy whatever the hell is popular to say now. I don't even understand the feministspeak of "objectifying" or "sexualizing" and what that could possibly mean. This is a fantasy game with roleplaying in which there exists ghouls and supermutants. On what planet is modifying a woman's appearance objectifying her and yet everything else is entirely believable? Well look at some of the mods here, not only FO related. Dont get me wrong though, no feminist here, just wondering about the people who kinda bring these feminist arguments in what they even do here. Simple explanation; they're morons bombarded with liberal internet spew that goes against their base feelings and common sense. They end up being conflicted between what they want and what others are telling them they should or should not want; all based on a skewed social agenda. Anyway, there is no valid excuse Bethesda fans can make for how people are artistically presented in the games. Butt-ugly textures and poorly rigged meshes with recycled animations. It is almost 2016 and when compared to other games on the market right now Bethesda has no fucking excuse, nor can a valid one be made by fans on their behalf. I could understand if Bethesda games were stylized like in Badlands2, Bioshock Infinite or even Alice Return to Madness; but Bethesda games are not artistically styled to represent a genre. They are meant to represent human beings in a non-cartoony way and they fucking suck at it. But that still doesn't explain the lack of will or talent on Bethesda's part, much less fans trying to dismiss a valid point (the crappy bodies and textures) just for the sake of defending a game aspect THEY KNOW sucks. I can say this; the people in this thread questioning its intent and who are more than prepared to correct others are currently using quality nude mesh and texture replacers in whatever piece of Bethesda shit they're playing. They are using them, but pointing fingers at others...which circles back to my 'simple explanation'. Well there are bound to be people like that even here, preaching water drinking wine. And yeah just the textures can make alot of difference, as you already pointed out with the witcher3 (and sacremas above) when given enough care. This was never the case of bethesda though, lack of artistic talent and care is aparent in pretty much everything. Im very interested in how CDPR is going to adress the character creation in cyberpunk, since they dont shun away from adult themes and got that aesthetic feeling many western games lack. Simple explanation; they're morons bombarded with liberal internet spew that goes against their base feelings and common sense. They end up being conflicted between what they want and what others are telling them they should or should not want; all based on a skewed social agenda. I can't say I've ever seen any feminazi bile leveled at Bethesda, let alone any legitimate feminists. It's not impossible they're, at least in part, trying to avoid that kind of attention, but if they're not actively under pressure, what sense would it make for that to be the main reason? Incompetence seems like the most sensible cause (based on the old "don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain" idea), followed by a legitimate attempt at artistic integrity. Makes a lot more sense to me than trying to twist it to support a conservative agenda. Yeah lots of incompetence, though imo its still some step up from the teribleness of skyrim, there is a visible attempt at diversity from what i seen.
Revuu Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Can we have beefcake men everywhere? Can my world be overflowing with the Old Spice Guy?
aqqh Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Just to collect opinions, but why all bethesda woman are ugly? I mean, FO4 made a good job on female face for my taste, but the body is terrible. I see mass effect with miranda ass, edi camel toe, ashley with her sexy mouth, in metal gear the girls can have open chest "armor", the list goes on... and bethesda give us that. Why? Opinions? Because in Skyrim and especially in Fallout "rough" appearance is "lore friendly". And because the more polygons and the higher texture resolution the higher system requirements for the game. And if someone doesn't have good enough hardware there is a good chance that he wont buy the game. They can tell PC users to go buy yourself better graphic card but when it comes to consoles there are lines that simply cannot be crossed.
GimmeBACON Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda.
Kendo 2 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Bethesda could do ONE TINY THING (modern textures and meshes for characters) but they won't or aren't capable. No matter the cause it's a glaring issue that can't be excused or justified for. 'Bethesda makes open worlds so they can't focus on characters because of performance.' Huh, so what's the explanation for CD Projekt and other companies accomplishing it AND with lower game specs? No that is a good and valid point to this discussion, if people didn't have as varied opinions on what makes a good looking woman there wouldn't be as many separate body replacers on the Nexus, everyone would just use the first one unless a later one was made with better polygons or the like. Recent attitudes and discussions here at LL want to accomplish just that. Choice and aesthetics be damned. 'One body to rule them all and with it's mediocrity bind them.' I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Witcher3; lower system specs than FO4 but the open world is 4 times larger and crammed full of clutter, animated objects, NPCs (flock, ambient and personality ones), really does have no load screens unless you fast travel (real time transition when you walk into a dark cave from a sunlit forest), real dynamic lighting, real dynamic weather (not Bethesda's occlusion planes), and the list goes on. Witcher3; obviously not a waifu simulator, yet the characters looks are vastly superior. That's not based on opinion but fact. A quick google search of images from both games will prove it. Witcher3; made by a tiny company. CD Projekt is a financial ant compared to Zenimax/Bethesda's elephant, yet they do more and they do it better. Mods: As far as graphics or game play goes; there wasn't one point in Witcher3 were I said, "Jesus Christ that looks bad." or "This game needs mods." Playing FO4 those two statements were the first things out of my mouth, and I know I'm not alone on that. Even fans of the game are saying it. Mods for a game need to be options, not requirements to make it palatable or playable.
Sacremas Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 No that is a good and valid point to this discussion, if people didn't have as varied opinions on what makes a good looking woman there wouldn't be as many separate body replacers on the Nexus, everyone would just use the first one unless a later one was made with better polygons or the like. Recent attitudes and discussions here at LL want to accomplish just that. Choice and aesthetics be damned. 'One body to rule them all and with it's mediocrity bind them.' If it's basically Bodyslide UUNP or CBBE then I'm good with that, will make outfits and the like much easier later when you don't have to convert everythign to the body you choose to use, but if such a variety can't be pulled off then greater choices are better. Let some have their realistic bodies and some have their pornstar bodies, personally I am never going to be satisfied until I can give basically everyone separate bodies and skin textures.
Aria Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Noone with a bit of common sense is going to accept a lazy game company that rehashes the same thing over and over for a decade with barely any progression in design and quality even though the tech that makes it all possible is there. They are mostly concerned with things that sell, hence why this time you got a garbage collecting minecraft simulator with "mass effect" (see what i did there?) instead of a fallout game. If they would be convinced next time that a corridor shooter is going to sell more, you can bet they would turn the whole franchise into one.
GimmeBACON Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Noone with a bit of common sense is going to accept a lazy game company that rehashes the same thing over and over for a decade with barely any progression in design and quality even though the tech that makes it all possible is there. They are mostly concerned with things that sell, hence why this time you got a garbage collecting minecraft simulator with "mass effect" (see what i did there?) instead of a fallout game. If they would be convinced next time that a corridor shooter is going to sell more, you can bet they would turn the whole franchise into one. I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Witcher3; lower system specs than FO4 but the open world is 4 times larger and crammed full of clutter, animated objects, NPCs (flock, ambient and personality ones), really does have no load screens unless you fast travel (real time transition when you walk into a dark cave from a sunlit forest), real dynamic lighting, real dynamic weather (not Bethesda's occlusion planes), and the list goes on. Witcher3; obviously not a waifu simulator, yet the characters looks are vastly superior. That's not based on opinion but fact. A quick google search of images from both games will prove it. Witcher3; made by a tiny company. CD Projekt is a financial ant compared to Zenimax/Bethesda's elephant, yet they do more and they do it better. Mods: As far as graphics or game play goes; there wasn't one point in Witcher3 were I said, "Jesus Christ that looks bad." or "This game needs mods." Playing FO4 those two statements were the first things out of my mouth, and I know I'm not alone on that. Even fans of the game are saying it. Mods for a game need to be options, not requirements to make it palatable or playable. Not once did I say that it was acceptable that they're being lazy, I merely meant to say making characters bland was them being lazy, and not some feminist SJW conspiracy to kill boners or whatever crap that the thread led to. Chill the fuck out.
Kendo 2 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Since I didn't come at you sideways but in a rational and cohesive manner I'll go ahead and say that you are the one who needs to 'chill the fuck out'. "Nothing is easier if you're an idiot." Words to live by.
Aria Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Noone with a bit of common sense is going to accept a lazy game company that rehashes the same thing over and over for a decade with barely any progression in design and quality even though the tech that makes it all possible is there. They are mostly concerned with things that sell, hence why this time you got a garbage collecting minecraft simulator with "mass effect" (see what i did there?) instead of a fallout game. If they would be convinced next time that a corridor shooter is going to sell more, you can bet they would turn the whole franchise into one. I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Witcher3; lower system specs than FO4 but the open world is 4 times larger and crammed full of clutter, animated objects, NPCs (flock, ambient and personality ones), really does have no load screens unless you fast travel (real time transition when you walk into a dark cave from a sunlit forest), real dynamic lighting, real dynamic weather (not Bethesda's occlusion planes), and the list goes on. Witcher3; obviously not a waifu simulator, yet the characters looks are vastly superior. That's not based on opinion but fact. A quick google search of images from both games will prove it. Witcher3; made by a tiny company. CD Projekt is a financial ant compared to Zenimax/Bethesda's elephant, yet they do more and they do it better. Mods: As far as graphics or game play goes; there wasn't one point in Witcher3 were I said, "Jesus Christ that looks bad." or "This game needs mods." Playing FO4 those two statements were the first things out of my mouth, and I know I'm not alone on that. Even fans of the game are saying it. Mods for a game need to be options, not requirements to make it palatable or playable. Not once did I say that it was acceptable that they're being lazy, I merely meant to say making characters bland was them being lazy, and not some feminist SJW conspiracy to kill boners or whatever crap that the thread led to. Chill the fuck out. Im perfectly chilled, no clue where you got the idea that im angry at what you said or SJW crap or wthatever, its just a bunch of opinions, sorry if it came out as offending.
Guest endgameaddiction Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Noone with a bit of common sense is going to accept a lazy game company that rehashes the same thing over and over for a decade with barely any progression in design and quality even though the tech that makes it all possible is there. They are mostly concerned with things that sell, hence why this time you got a garbage collecting minecraft simulator with "mass effect" (see what i did there?) instead of a fallout game. If they would be convinced next time that a corridor shooter is going to sell more, you can bet they would turn the whole franchise into one. But apparently people with common sense still buys their mediocre product to continue to bitch about it. I'm not surprised 10-15 years from now they're still purchasing their product just to keep bitching about it.
Aria Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. Noone with a bit of common sense is going to accept a lazy game company that rehashes the same thing over and over for a decade with barely any progression in design and quality even though the tech that makes it all possible is there. They are mostly concerned with things that sell, hence why this time you got a garbage collecting minecraft simulator with "mass effect" (see what i did there?) instead of a fallout game. If they would be convinced next time that a corridor shooter is going to sell more, you can bet they would turn the whole franchise into one. But apparently people with common sense still buys their mediocre product to continue to bitch about it. I'm not surprised 10-15 years from now they're still purchasing their product just to keep bitching about it. I didnt bought FO4, watched lots of vids with story spoilers, gameplay though to see they skyrimized it. Dont really need to own the game to realize they still using the same old engine and same way of outdated design with shallow radiant quests. Its a rehashed FO3, even the damn Liberty Prime is there.
Kendo 2 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I bought FO4; the hype, my own stupidity for believing Todd Howard (a known liar) and FOMO. Won't happen again though. I hope Bethesda is enjoying my 60 bucks. It's the last that company will ever get from me.
AsariX Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Bethesda makes cheap non-perfect stuff to encourage modders to make nicer stuff themselves.
GimmeBACON Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 The "chill the fuck out" was aimed toward Kendo 2, not you Aria. I should have explained what I meant by it, but, I meant chill out with acting like the witcher is such a perfect game series. I have to many people in my life creaming in their pants over how great it is and it gives me a headache. Judging from his last comment, it feels like he has some inherent hatred for Bethesda anyway, so... maybe he should calm down a bit?
vram1974 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Can we have beefcake men everywhere? Can my world be overflowing with the Old Spice Guy? Honestly? If you think we're objectifying women here just look at Skyrim. Every fucking male body retouch has a guy with 48 abdominal muscles, shredded to the maximum and looking like he'd split a log in two pieces with a swing of his dick. Doesn't look like my body but I don't care
AlericoftheNords Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. So the Witcher 3, where everyone looks like dirty peasants except for Geralt and his two girlfriends, is a Waifu simulator? The "chill the fuck out" was aimed toward Kendo 2, not you Aria. I should have explained what I meant by it, but, I meant chill out with acting like the witcher is such a perfect game series. I have to many people in my life creaming in their pants over how great it is and it gives me a headache. Judging from his last comment, it feels like he has some inherent hatred for Bethesda anyway, so... maybe he should calm down a bit? The Witcher 3 is Bethesda's competitor, why -shouldn't- people compare it to Skyrim and FO4? Sorry, but Bethesda has no excuses anymore, they now have serious competition, and so they need to up their game.
GimmeBACON Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I see a lot of people complaining that Bethesda is using antiquated skeletons, textures, etc, which is true, I'll admit; but, can't people accept the fact that the company just may be more concerned in creating an open-world game then a waifu simulator? I don't see any harm in the graphics as they are, and I know that modders are going to make things even better, so does Bethesda. So the Witcher 3, where everyone looks like dirty peasants except for Geralt and his two girlfriends, is a Waifu simulator? Sorry, but Bethesda has no excuses for the bad graphics anymore. That was targeting Mass Effect and Metal Gear etc, which the OP used as his frame of reference when creating this topic. But... I digress. There's always going to be people who inherently whine that they don't get exactly what they want, and, there's no pleasing some people.
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