MikeJones84 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 My computer has an AMD FX-6300 CPU and AMD R7-260X GPU. They normally run at about 50-55 and 35-45 degrees celsius, respectively. When playing a game they both get upwards of 80 degrees. I tried playing Borderlands 2 and after 10 minutes or so the computer shut itself off. I monitored the temps while playing and the GPU got to 92 degrees before I quit. I take it these aren't normal temps and I have an overheating problem? Right now I only have a single case fan, on the side above the video card, which sucks air in. There is a spot for another fan in the back below the GPU. Do you think putting another fan here blowing air out would help?
taber83 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Oh my, yes having a fan that pushes the air out would help immensely. Most computer cases that I run with have about 3-4 fans, two on the front for intake, one on top for pushing out, and another on the back for pushing out. Overheating is very much your current problem. Edit: To answer the topic headline, yes, AMD generally runs hotter than their Nvidia counter-parts. Note I'm not trying to start a war, just stating the facts. =P
Jayce Dimmer Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Not really. My 965 BE keeps at a nice 52C with my Hyper 212 evo; @ 60C, it begins to throttle due to the temperature. Similar temps for my 7850 2GB; throttling begins at 54C, usually stays at 45-48C. I think your problem is just bad airflow and putting the CPU cooler on badly.
MikeJones84 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Posted September 22, 2015 Regarding the topic title... I remember reading before buying these parts that they run unusually hot with stock cooling. Not sure how hot is unusually hot. I bought these parts on an extreme budget, including the case which I think now was a big mistake. It doesn't even have a vent on the front. I will try putting a fan on the back. Other than that I don't think there's much else I can do right now.
Kendo 2 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I had an AMD A8 5500 and it practically caught on fire. I was playing FO3 and I was in the area of Rivet City when I started getting all of these artifacts and bad color tiling. I knew what was happeneing so I immeditately unplugged the PC. When I opened my stack I could feel the heat coming off of the card. I panicked and when I went to take the card out I almost burned myself; it was that hot. Luckily I had a pair of pliers and a screwdriver handy and I was able to get the card out before it did any damage to my rig. I did manage to take a screenshot before I unplugged. I'm back to using my old EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti and I'm not having any issues.
MikeJones84 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Posted September 22, 2015 I installed the fan on the back and I guess it made some difference. I was able to play Borderlands 2 for 20 minutes without the GPU going above 72 degrees. The CPU was at 70. Right now just browsing the web the GPU and CPU are at 34 and 49 degrees. Anyway thanks for all the input. I might just invest in some extra cooling eventually.
bjornk Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Pretty sure there are many online benchmarks for all kinds of AMD products which you can use as a comparison in order to find out the idle and load temps for your CPU & GPU.
User09 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 My computer has an AMD FX-6300 CPU and AMD R7-260X GPU. They normally run at about 50-55 and 35-45 degrees celsius, respectively. When playing a game they both get upwards of 80 degrees. I tried playing Borderlands 2 and after 10 minutes or so the computer shut itself off. I monitored the temps while playing and the GPU got to 92 degrees before I quit. I take it these aren't normal temps and I have an overheating problem? Right now I only have a single case fan, on the side above the video card, which sucks air in. There is a spot for another fan in the back below the GPU. Do you think putting another fan here blowing air out would help? 92 celsius isn't normal for an R7 260X, your case must have bad ventilation in it. You should get more fans for your case that would help alot and also remember to cool your room down because the fans can't cool your computer down if the room is very hot.
MikeJones84 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Posted September 22, 2015 Would it hurt to apply new thermal paste to the CPU and GPU? The CPU has the pre-applied factory thermal paste. I feel like these temps are still too high. From what I gather, mid 60's is the max safe temperature for the FX-6300. Pretty sure there are many online benchmarks for all kinds of AMD products which you can use as a comparison in order to find out the idle and load temps for your CPU & GPU. I couldn't find anything like that. Just a bunch of performance benchmarks.
lambient1988 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I have a AMD FX-8350 and I live in India, it's really hot in here. The CPU temp is usually 30 to 35°C on idle and 50 to 55 when under use. Max 60. It's only because I have underclocked it to 3.4 GHz from 4.0. And I am using the HyperX 212 Evo Heatsink. I am using a Gigabyte AMD 7850, it usually is at 45°C, goes up to 55°C during a game, but never more than that. The 7850 is on stock settings, no changes there. And yes, please replace your thermal paste from time to time, it really makes a difference. I do it every 3 months now.
MikeJones84 Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 For the record I am on linux and CCC is pretty bare-bones. There are no overdrive or fan control options. I use lm-sensors to view temps, which looks like this: fam15h_power-pci-00c4 Adapter: PCI adapter power1: 37.48 W (crit = 94.99 W) k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +32.0°C (high = +70.0°C) (crit = +83.5°C, hyst = +80.5°C) atk0110-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface Vcore Voltage: +0.88 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V) +3.3V Voltage: +3.34 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V) +5V Voltage: +5.04 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V) +12V Voltage: +12.03 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V) CPU Fan Speed: 3571 RPM (min = 600 RPM, max = 7200 RPM) Chassis Fan Speed: 812 RPM (min = 600 RPM, max = 7200 RPM) CPU Temperature: +47.0°C (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) MB Temperature: +35.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C) The fan control 'pwmconfig' tells me, "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed". I haven't been able to find a solution to that. Adding a new fan and re-applying thermal paste hasn't seemed to fix the overheating issue. Both the CPU and GPU just keep getting hotter and hotter while playing games.
MikeJones84 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Posted September 24, 2015 Is it possible that the PSU is to blame? It always seems to be warm to the touch, and it has two fans, one on the back and one on the bottom blowing air toward the motherboard. Also is there any product you guys can recommend to cool the inside of the case? I really want this fixed now.
bjornk Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Is it possible that the PSU is to blame? It always seems to be warm to the touch, and it has two fans, one on the back and one on the bottom blowing air toward the motherboard. Also is there any product you guys can recommend to cool the inside of the case? I really want this fixed now. If your PSU is running hot then get an 80+ Bronze, Silver or preferably Gold certified PSU. Power efficiency means producing less heat. If your room temperature is low enough (less than or equal to 25C) then open both of the side panels. Components inside the case will gather more dust but they will run cooler.
windpl Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Does your motherboard is on nvidia chipset?
visby Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Is your system a pre built or a custom rig? Is your CPU cooler stock? Do you have pets? Do you smoke? If you smoke try tacking it outside, if you have pets you'll need to blow out your system a bit more often (by pets I mean cats or dogs). Majincry talked about the Hyper 212 evo this is a very good and cheap CPU cooler. bjornk is correct about the PSU remember energy can never be destroyed it just changes state, still the total amount of heat from the PSU shouldn't be that bad. If you have a typical big brand computer then yes taking the cover off will most likely help as seems to be the case for you. But a properly designed case with proper air flow is better off with the covers on as taking the covers off will disturb the air flow. @lambient1988 replacing your thermal grease every 3 months is a very very bad idea it's probably just reaching optimal cooling when your replacing it. Five years is a far more reasonable time frame. Also some types of thermal grease don't break down thermally such as diamond based ones.
Pissed Riften Guard Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 That's not necessarily the deal.. My AMD GPU runs at 60 C Anything up to 70 is normal with long gamin sessions l but 90 C is just too much!
Veladarius Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 In my opinion the stock fan settings on AMD cards are too slow. I suggest using one of the overclocking programs available from the various card manufacturers to increase the fan speeds. Typically I set mine up so it hits 100% at 60c but depending on the cooler on the card it may get loud.
Antrox Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 When I had an 8350 It was clocked at 4.5GHz with its temps at about 50-45c (60 underload). I was using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 to cool it. Once i switched to lovely Intel and liquid cooling my idle temps went down to 25-30c (40 underload) (Clock was at 4.0GHz). In conclusion AMD products in general are hot as fuck.
Xpyke Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I have the same proc, FX-6300 and a R9-270x as video card, with the box cooler the temp never reached above 60º C, in idle it was usually around 30-40º C, and I was using the thermal paste that comes with the processor, but last month I changed to a water cooler and since then no more than 40-45º C, but I guess you should change your thermal paste, and put your computer somewhere that has a good air flow, and follow the steps cited above, like putting more airflow into your rig, this should keep everything viable.
TopSecretName Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 I use AMD but I've got a larger case for better airflow. And plus for the winter I've got a nice room heater!
pinky6225 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 In my opinion the stock fan settings on AMD cards are too slow. I suggest using one of the overclocking programs available from the various card manufacturers to increase the fan speeds. Typically I set mine up so it hits 100% at 60c but depending on the cooler on the card it may get loud. Are you not concerned that the fans will wear out sooner? Been running the techpowerup GPU-Z http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2524/techpowerup-gpu-z-v0-8-5/ for about 5 mins now and seems to have capped out at the below
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