jessica91 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Hello guys !Firstly may i say that english isnt my mother tongue so please be indulgent. I bought a new "gaming pc" for about one and a half year and since then i couldnt play skyrim like i wanted to. 5 texture mods and not even landscape mods or something like that im running currently and i got 30fps. I already turned shadows, reflection, grass and antialiasing completely off to play a bit smoother. With shadows i have about 10-15fps. I dont know which information is relevant so i post everything that seems important to me My Computer :Windows 7 64bit CPU : intel core i7 4770k 3,5GHz Memory : 16GB DDR3 Graphics : Nvidia Geforce GTX 660 When u need more information please ask and be so good and tell me where do i find these information, im a newbie. I would be very gratefull if u can help me with this problem.
Veladarius Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Upgrade the graphics card as your processor and memory are more than enough to handle Skyrim.
Tepi Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 If anything you'd only want to upgrade that gpu to, say nvidia 970 or something along those lines. Seeing that my 7850 is quite similar in power to 660 and you claim to have such low framerates... makes me wonder at what resolution you run skyrim? Also do you have enb enabled or not? Because without enb that gpu should run the game at 60fps. At least mine does.
Shathinia Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 First, i think you can upgrade to a new graphic card, With a cpu i7 860 2,80GHz (yeah is a bit old) and a nVidia GTX 760 OC, i run the game at 50-60 fps (with a ENB and with a fews tweak), you have a nice CPU, so for new a new graphic card can be really better.
Jayce Dimmer Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Your CPU is very much top of the line. If you're going to buy a 970, I'd advise against that; get yourself an R9 390 instead. No gimped vRAM and you also get OpenCL2.0, which you'll be wanting for HDT SMP.
bradleyh Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 As has been stated, upgrade You Graphics Card! I have been considering a Titan X hybrid, but I look at My PC as My Recreation and do not mind investing in future proofing.
Rayblue Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Like everyone else, get a new video card, specifically a Geforce 970 or a 980.
jessica91 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Posted September 18, 2015 Thank you all for your answers ! @tepi : no i dont use any sort of enb. Just a little question to graphics card : my gtx660 already has 4gb whats so bad about it ? As i can see a gtx970 is just slighty better then my card.
bjornk Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 As i can see a gtx970 is just slighty better then my card. Get a 980TI then.
Nayu Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 The processing power of the GTX 660 is inferior to the GTX 970 or 980. Edit: http://www.hwcompare.com/18051/geforce-gtx-660-vs-geforce-gtx-970/
jessica91 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks you guys for your help Sorry about that but if someone can tell me which gtx970 i have to buy i would be very thankful. There are ~20 different cards and i dont know which one i have to buy Here is the link from the page i found the graphicscards >>>> http://www.mindfactory.de/search_result.php/search_query/gtx970/filterKategorie/Hardware/filterKategorie2/Grafikkarten%20(VGA)/filterKategorie3/GeForce%20GTX%20fuer%20Gaming/page/1 <<<<
Nayu Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Either the ASUS Strix OC or the MSI Gaming both have rather good cooling systems. There is no real difference.
stilz Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Just a heads up there may be another issue if youre only pulling 30fps with a GTX660 in Skyrim with no ENB and that few mods. Especially with that CPU. Theres something not right if my GTX470 was stomping your machine performance wise With an ENB and around 170 mods. Do you play any other games? What resolution are you playing at? (1920x1080, 2560x1440 etc?). Unless youre trying to play at 4k resolution or with a surround (multi-monitor) setup this sounds off to me. You will probably also wasnt to make sure you dont have a frame rate limiter set in your drivers or if youre hooked up to a low refresh rate display with vsync on like an old HDTV or something. And for reference heres charts for the 660 vs a 970... The GTX660 is far, far inferior. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1039?vs=1355
Jayce Dimmer Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Geh, lads, stop tellin' him to get the 970. When that last 512MB of vRAM is reached, he's not gonna be too happy. Remember, NVidia cards don't support OpenCL 2.0 either. The former is going to be a big issue with the console ports, whereas the latter is going to determine whether or not HDT-SMP will run like a dream, or run like a bulimic slug. Get a 390, and ya'll be a happy chap.
stilz Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Just FYI the 390 would outperform the 660 on a similar level to the comparison in my above link. I still want to know what resolution were talking here because I cant wrap my head around how a GTX660 is stumbling all over itself like this with an almost vanilla Skyrim *EDIT* Im just worried because I helped someone a few years back for BF3 and I got suspicious when they said the framerate never changes from 30 no matter what. Turns out their GTX570 was hooked to a first gen "HD" TV with a 30hz refresh and they had vsync on.
...0... Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 When he said i disable AA means he don´t use ENB other wise it would be a must to disable AA in Skyrim launcher and would not have mentioned it. Also all depends on what resolution he play on what mods he have installed. Some claim they have 50/60 fps but forget to mention what they actually have installed and on what resolution they play. I use a AMD 290x i play avarage with 40fps but i use 2560x1440p and mainly heavy 4k textures plus ENB. Probably on 1080p HD resolution it also will be 50 or 60 fps thats difference how you play skyrim under what conditions. Best is monitor 144mhz G sync or Freesync IPS monitor from asus AT 2560X1440P best result beautiful looking game if your PC can handle it hehe.
27X Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Your CPU is very much top of the line. If you're going to buy a 970, I'd advise against that; get yourself an R9 390 instead. No gimped vRAM and you also get OpenCL2.0, which you'll be wanting for HDT SMP. No point in using SMP unless you like writing node/object xmls yourself and you like the color correction in any ENB saturating your entire screen. Thanks you guys for your help Sorry about that but if someone can tell me which gtx970 i have to buy i would be very thankful. There are ~20 different cards and i dont know which one i have to buy Here is the link from the page i found the graphicscards >>>> http://www.mindfactory.de/search_result.php/search_query/gtx970/filterKategorie/Hardware/filterKategorie2/Grafikkarten%20(VGA)/filterKategorie3/GeForce%20GTX%20fuer%20Gaming/page/1 <<<< It's ALL about the warranty, EVGA or Gigabyte.
Jayce Dimmer Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 No point in using SMP unless you like writing node/object xmls yourself and you like the color correction in any ENB saturating your entire screen. Give it time. HDT PE Took a while to develop as well, you know. As for that colour issue, you'd best report that to the developer. Besides, SMP uses GPU acceleration; that's where the honey is, sonny.
27X Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 SMP is over 9 months old, and no one is sharing anything except ledo, so unless you expect him to carry the entire SMP english speaking community (considering english isn't his first language, ah the irony) PE already had full injected or native object support by now; SMP you're still forced to use 3DSM to set by-node collision and constraining. SMP is only along as much as it is because all of the PE assets that conveniently happen to be agnostic and compatible. developer I don't speak mandarin, and Hydro doesn't speak english.
Nayu Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Skyrim has V-Sync sadly always enabled even if deactivated in the SkyrimLauncher since the iPresentInterval setting in SkyrimPrefs is not used but the one in Skyrim.ini is. http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:SkyrimPrefs_INI/Display#iPresentInterval So the theory of stilz may be the right one. And like the others asked what resolution are we talking about here? @27X I also wanted to point to EVGA but it's not available at mindfactory. Same with Gigabyte. HDT-SMP is also usable without OpenCL 2.0. I'm running it and it works even if it took some doing... About the GTX 970, it's true about the last 512MB but we don't know the budget of the OP. And the 390X is just a relabeled 290X with a little more baseclock. If he has the budget he should get a GTX 980 or a Fiji GPU. Haven't checked in a while what the prizes are :-P
afa Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Weird, without enb I thought the 660 would be able to handle it. If vram is the issue AMD could be the cheaper option, but for top of the line performance it is 980ti and Titan.
...0... Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Skyrim has V-Sync sadly always enabled even if deactivated in the SkyrimLauncher since the iPresentInterval setting in SkyrimPrefs is not used but the one in Skyrim.ini is. http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:SkyrimPrefs_INI/Display#iPresentInterval So the theory of stilz may be the right one. And like the others asked what resolution are we talking about here? @27X I also wanted to point to EVGA but it's not available at mindfactory. Same with Gigabyte. HDT-SMP is also usable without OpenCL 2.0. I'm running it and it works even if it took some doing... About the GTX 970, it's true about the last 512MB but we don't know the budget of the OP. And the 390X is just a relabeled 290X with a little more baseclock. If he has the budget he should get a GTX 980 or a Fiji GPU. Haven't checked in a while what the prizes are :-P fiji GPU is not budget it´s rediculously high priced. AMD Fury x is 750 euro(if your lucky most are around 800 euro +(if your lucky get one i order one paid for but still not have it) average AMD Fury 600 euro´s AMD Nano 750 euro´s this not budget it´s high end stupid 2015 prices.
Nayu Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I should have used the term "money" instead of budget in my last sentence... Like I said, I haven't checked the prizes in a while...
jessica91 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 Im running skyrim with a 1920x1080 resolution. HD packs are also disabled. Vsync is turned off via Geforce My monitar is a panasonic tv (FULL HD) connected with a HDMI cable. I have set the priority from Skyrim via Prio (a free download software) to "higher priorty") In the background there are only 2 programms running -> 1. NMM 2. McAfee (Checked via Task-Manager) My computer gets every week defragmented. Im using C-CLeaner and Smart Defrag 4. Other games i tried to run with "high" graphics are BF4 same result or even worse.
stilz Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Skyrim has V-Sync sadly always enabled even if deactivated in the SkyrimLauncher since the iPresentInterval setting in SkyrimPrefs is not used but the one in Skyrim.ini is. http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:SkyrimPrefs_INI/Display#iPresentInterval So the theory of stilz may be the right one. And like the others asked what resolution are we talking about here? It may not even be vsync though because they said with shadows on they get 10-15fps. theres got to be something going on with bloatware/bad drivers unless the GPU is just faulty or theyre running at very high resolution. Ive also seen some of the sandy/ivy i3/5/7 series chips get stuck in their base clocks even under 100% load on certain motherboards with the power saving features enabled, resulting in a CPU thats potentially only running at 1 to 1.6ghz. I dont have any first hand experience with Haswell. I just simply cant say "Get this part" with my only information being "My framerate is poor". Unless of course the system specs listed after that show a GT740 or something else really poor GPU wise. So I guess the big questions from me are - 1.)What resolution are we trying to push? 2.)What exactly are those few texture mods? Poorly packed DDS's, even 2k res, can quickly overwhelm VRAM. Especially if its a very narrow bus like the GTX660's. 4gb on a 192bit bus I would venture to say is almost useless. 3.)If they have monitoring programs what load % is the GPU showing? 4.)Whats the GPU temperature? Edited to reflect above. The 660 would likely struggle in BF4 a little. But yet again at 1080p my old 470 sounds like it was outperforming. i could pull medium-low on that card and get mid 40's to upper 50's in BF4 at 1080p. Check to make sure your refresh rate is set to 60hz in your driver control panel if you dont mind Is Prio the only free piece of "performance boosting" software you have? the vast majority of these programs are completely useless and in many cases they can actually harm performance.
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