The C.A.N.S. (Cooperative Algebraic Node Sizing) Framework

Caliban44 · September 26, 2015

is there a patch for sl hormones yet?

i dl'ed techbanes patch from page six, but there was nothing in there for hormones

i asked over on the hormones page about this and here is the response i got

Caliban44, on 17 Sept 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

sktrimii, i don't know if this has been answered or not but are you going to make a C.A.N.S. patch for sl hormones?

I don't plan to make a patch for CANS (too much to do in my mods right now to invest time learning another but).

That said, if someone wants to make a patch between Hormones and CANS, I will be happy to add mod events or other signals in Hormones to make that patch possible.

i would do it but i know nothing about scripting, i can do small mods but i can't do mods that requires me to script, so i put it out to the LL community can someone make a cans patch for sl hormones?

*foreveraloneguy* · September 27, 2015

Looking for some guidance here... I have CANS .14.1.1 installed along with milk mod economy 2015-09-19. When I set the scaling to CANS, the breasts don't seem to change scale. It does work if I set MME to NIO. So what types of debug prints (without digging through everyone's scripts) would I be looking for from CANS to tell what the issue might be?

And it may have already been discussed, but I'm also seeing in the CANS MCM that it's managing 2 mods, but I only have MME active and set to CANS and no mods are listed under "deactivate". So does CANS print the mods it thinks it's managing in the debug?

Can't provide serious support since I'm out of town this weekend, check to make sure things appear in the uninstall menu on CANS, check to make sure the breasts should actually be growing, since CANS is going to ignore anything that's 1.0 or below.

CANS debug logging is kinda poor right now (being redone for the 1.0) but anything it prints should be prefaced with "CANS:" or "CANS Framework:"

OK, then we're on to something. CANS says it's managing 2 mods, but neither mod shows up in uninstall menu. Nodes should definitely be growing. In MME, the breast nodes are listed as being at 2.3.

Feliks · September 27, 2015

Looking for some guidance here... I have CANS .14.1.1 installed along with milk mod economy 2015-09-19. When I set the scaling to CANS, the breasts don't seem to change scale. It does work if I set MME to NIO. So what types of debug prints (without digging through everyone's scripts) would I be looking for from CANS to tell what the issue might be?

And it may have already been discussed, but I'm also seeing in the CANS MCM that it's managing 2 mods, but I only have MME active and set to CANS and no mods are listed under "deactivate". So does CANS print the mods it thinks it's managing in the debug?

Can't provide serious support since I'm out of town this weekend, check to make sure things appear in the uninstall menu on CANS, check to make sure the breasts should actually be growing, since CANS is going to ignore anything that's 1.0 or below.
CANS debug logging is kinda poor right now (being redone for the 1.0) but anything it prints should be prefaced with "CANS:" or "CANS Framework:"

OK, then we're on to something. CANS says it's managing 2 mods, but neither mod shows up in uninstall menu. Nodes should definitely be growing. In MME, the breast nodes are listed as being at 2.3.

Two questions: are you sure it isn't listing negative 2? Because that's what it's going to show when nothing's registered.

Did you install CANS on an existing save? Was MME already installed and running?

Is anything in the papyrus log from CANS?

*foreveraloneguy* · September 27, 2015

Looking for some guidance here... I have CANS .14.1.1 installed along with milk mod economy 2015-09-19. When I set the scaling to CANS, the breasts don't seem to change scale. It does work if I set MME to NIO. So what types of debug prints (without digging through everyone's scripts) would I be looking for from CANS to tell what the issue might be?

And it may have already been discussed, but I'm also seeing in the CANS MCM that it's managing 2 mods, but I only have MME active and set to CANS and no mods are listed under "deactivate". So does CANS print the mods it thinks it's managing in the debug?

Can't provide serious support since I'm out of town this weekend, check to make sure things appear in the uninstall menu on CANS, check to make sure the breasts should actually be growing, since CANS is going to ignore anything that's 1.0 or below.
CANS debug logging is kinda poor right now (being redone for the 1.0) but anything it prints should be prefaced with "CANS:" or "CANS Framework:"

OK, then we're on to something. CANS says it's managing 2 mods, but neither mod shows up in uninstall menu. Nodes should definitely be growing. In MME, the breast nodes are listed as being at 2.3.

Two questions: are you sure it isn't listing negative 2? Because that's what it's going to show when nothing's registered.

Did you install CANS on an existing save? Was MME already installed and running?

Is anything in the papyrus log from CANS?

Well, it is -2, which is what threw me off since it says it's managing -1 actor. In that case, the MME implementation of CANS would appear to be broken or there's a conflict somewhere else.

I'll have to dig around in the debug logs. Haven't had much of a chance to do that yet.

Feliks · September 27, 2015

Looking for some guidance here... I have CANS .14.1.1 installed along with milk mod economy 2015-09-19. When I set the scaling to CANS, the breasts don't seem to change scale. It does work if I set MME to NIO. So what types of debug prints (without digging through everyone's scripts) would I be looking for from CANS to tell what the issue might be?

And it may have already been discussed, but I'm also seeing in the CANS MCM that it's managing 2 mods, but I only have MME active and set to CANS and no mods are listed under "deactivate". So does CANS print the mods it thinks it's managing in the debug?

Can't provide serious support since I'm out of town this weekend, check to make sure things appear in the uninstall menu on CANS, check to make sure the breasts should actually be growing, since CANS is going to ignore anything that's 1.0 or below.
CANS debug logging is kinda poor right now (being redone for the 1.0) but anything it prints should be prefaced with "CANS:" or "CANS Framework:"

OK, then we're on to something. CANS says it's managing 2 mods, but neither mod shows up in uninstall menu. Nodes should definitely be growing. In MME, the breast nodes are listed as being at 2.3.
Two questions: are you sure it isn't listing negative 2? Because that's what it's going to show when nothing's registered.

Did you install CANS on an existing save? Was MME already installed and running?

Is anything in the papyrus log from CANS?

Well, it is -2, which is what threw me off since it says it's managing -1 actor. In that case, the MME implementation of CANS would appear to be broken or there's a conflict somewhere else.

I'll have to dig around in the debug logs. Haven't had much of a chance to do that yet.

What about my other question though? Was MME installed on this save before you installed this specific version of CANS

*foreveraloneguy* · September 28, 2015

Looking for some guidance here... I have CANS .14.1.1 installed along with milk mod economy 2015-09-19. When I set the scaling to CANS, the breasts don't seem to change scale. It does work if I set MME to NIO. So what types of debug prints (without digging through everyone's scripts) would I be looking for from CANS to tell what the issue might be?

And it may have already been discussed, but I'm also seeing in the CANS MCM that it's managing 2 mods, but I only have MME active and set to CANS and no mods are listed under "deactivate". So does CANS print the mods it thinks it's managing in the debug?

Can't provide serious support since I'm out of town this weekend, check to make sure things appear in the uninstall menu on CANS, check to make sure the breasts should actually be growing, since CANS is going to ignore anything that's 1.0 or below.
CANS debug logging is kinda poor right now (being redone for the 1.0) but anything it prints should be prefaced with "CANS:" or "CANS Framework:"

OK, then we're on to something. CANS says it's managing 2 mods, but neither mod shows up in uninstall menu. Nodes should definitely be growing. In MME, the breast nodes are listed as being at 2.3.
Two questions: are you sure it isn't listing negative 2? Because that's what it's going to show when nothing's registered.

Did you install CANS on an existing save? Was MME already installed and running?

Is anything in the papyrus log from CANS?

Well, it is -2, which is what threw me off since it says it's managing -1 actor. In that case, the MME implementation of CANS would appear to be broken or there's a conflict somewhere else.

I'll have to dig around in the debug logs. Haven't had much of a chance to do that yet.

What about my other question though? Was MME installed on this save before you installed this specific version of CANS

This is a new game with both MME and CANS active at the start.

*Ed86* · September 28, 2015

well.... there is apparently something wrong,

		If Plugin_CANS && BreastScale == 1
			CANS_Framework CANS = Quest.GetQuest("CANS") as CANS_Framework
			if CANS
				if !(akActor.HasMagicEffect(Game.GetFormFromFile(0x5e49, "CANS.esp") as MagicEffect)) 	;The target does not have the effect.
					if (akActor.HasSpell(Game.GetFormFromFile(0x5e48, "CANS.esp") as Spell)) 			;The target has the spell but not the effect, something was called incorrectly and the effect was dispelled but not the spell
						akActor.RemoveSpell(Game.GetFormFromFile(0x5e48, "CANS.esp") as Spell)			;Now the target neither has the spell nor the effect
					EndIf
					akActor.AddSpell(Game.GetFormFromFile(0x5e48, "CANS.esp") as Spell, false) 			;Adds the spell, does not notify if it is added to the Player
					(Game.GetFormFromFile(0x5e48, "CANS.esp") as Spell).Cast(akActor, akActor) 			;Activates the spell and applies the framework
				EndIf
				CANS.RegisterMyMod(akActor, "Milk Mod Economy", "Milking")
				CANS.Breast(akActor, "Milk Mod Economy", CurrentSize)
			else
				Debug.notification("Something is wrong with CANS, it might have been updated and is no longer working with MME")
			endif

Papyrus log:

[09/28/2015 - 07:57:49PM] Error: (CB005E48): Spell is permanent (e.g. an ability/addiction/disease) and cannot be Cast..

stack:

[ (CB005E48)].SPELL.Cast() - "<native>" Line ?

[MME_MilkQUEST (CA00E209)].milkquest.CurrentSize() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 738