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Guys first time mod user here, I just started a week ago so bear with me as I found something to share about my journey to fix a CTD. Before, i was using this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725?tab=description  to solve a lot of CTDs that I was having. However at one point, i got  this CTD with the crash log saying exception address( crashing after completing Chloe's Quest at Dollmaker's house). So, I found this

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EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 773566ff (ntdll!RtlpFreeHeapInternal+0x000000d7)
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 8c0387ff
Attempt to read from address 8c0387ff

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  8c0387ff

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  8c0387ff

ADDITIONAL_DEBUG_TEXT:  Enable Pageheap/AutoVerifer ; Followup set based on attribute [Is_ChosenCrashFollowupThread] from Frame:[0] on thread:[PSEUDO_THREAD]

FAULTING_THREAD:  000022f4

STACK_TEXT:  
00000000 00000000 heap_corruption!TESV.exe+0x0


SYMBOL_NAME:  heap_corruption!TESV.exe

MODULE_NAME: heap_corruption

IMAGE_NAME:  heap_corruption

I just use https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725?tab=description  to do this AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini. And my game stop CTD near the dollmaker's house.

 

TLDR; you can just get this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725?tab=description and follow the instruction carefully instead of spending few hours turning on and off mods in Vortex that might break the game. Silly me.

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I know this is an old thread but SKSE won't generate a crash dump file

 

I keep crashing every time an animal approaches my character. I'm using hentaicreatures, horny creatures of skyrim, untamed, more nasty critters, animal sos, sos, XP32, creature framework, SSE redux aroused, sexlab framework

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*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for havok_fix.dll

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for hdtHighHeelNative.dll

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for DontPushMe.dll

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for JContainers.dll

 

DEBUG_FLR_EXCEPTION_CODE(80131500) and the ".exr -1" ExceptionCode(e0434352) don't match

MethodDesc: 0f068bc8

Method Name: SlimDX.Result.Throw[[System.__Canon, mscorlib]](System.Object, System.Object)

Class: 0f05ba54

MethodTable: 0f067e5c

mdToken: 060006bd

Module: 04cc92d4

IsJitted: yes

CodeAddr: 0f0963c8

Transparency: Safe critical

MethodDesc: 0f068908

Method Name: SlimDX.Result.Record[[System.__Canon, mscorlib]](Int32, Boolean, System.Object, System.Object)

Class: 0f05ba54

MethodTable: 0f067e5c

mdToken: 060006c1

Module: 04cc92d4

IsJitted: yes

CodeAddr: 0f092d80

Transparency: Safe critical

MethodDesc: 0f0669ac

Method Name: SlimDX.Direct3D9.Device.Present()

Class: 0f05b05c

MethodTable: 0f067134

mdToken: 06001617

Module: 04cc92d4

IsJitted: yes

CodeAddr: 0f096178

Transparency: Safe critical MethodDesc: 0f00baec

Method Name: FPSInjector.DXHookD3D9.PresentHook(IntPtr, RECT ByRef, RECT ByRef, IntPtr, IntPtr)

Class: 0efcdc64

MethodTable: 0f00bbd8

mdToken: 06000050

Module: 04cc81b8

IsJitted: yes

CodeAddr: 0f094b20

Transparency: Critical

MethodDesc: 0f06afe8

Method Name: DomainBoundILStubClass.IL_STUB_ReversePInvoke(Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Int32, Int32)

Class: 0f00b3c8

MethodTable: 0f00b41c

mdToken: 06000000

Module: 04cc4144

IsJitted: yes

CodeAddr: 0f094388

Transparency: Critical

 

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

 

Key : Analysis.CPU.mSec

Value: 91546

 

Key : Analysis.DebugAnalysisProvider.CPP

Value: Create: 8007007e on DESKTOP-pc

 

Key : Analysis.DebugData

Value: CreateObject Key : Analysis.DebugModel Value: CreateObject

 

Key : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec

Value: 164498

 

Key : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb

Value: 319

 

Key : Analysis.System

Value: CreateObject

 

Key : CLR.BuiltBy

Value: NET48REL1LAST_C

 

Key : CLR.Engine

Value: CLR

 

Key : CLR.Version

Value: 4.8.4200.0

 

Key : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec

Value: 168

 

Key : WER.OS.Branch

Value: 19h1_release

 

Key : WER.OS.Timestamp

Value: 2019-03-18T12:02:00Z

 

Key : WER.OS.Version

Value: 10.0.18362.1

 

Key : WER.Process.Version

Value: 1.9.32.0

 

ADDITIONAL_XML: 1

OS_BUILD_LAYERS: 1

 

CONTEXT: (.ecxr)

eax=3e77fb98 ebx=00000005 ecx=00000005 edx=00000000 esi=3e77fc58 edi=00000001

eip=76ed40b2 esp=3e77fb98 ebp=3e77fbf0 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz ac po nc

cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00200212

KERNELBASE!RaiseException+0x62:

76ed40b2 8b4c2454 mov ecx,dword ptr [esp+54h] ss:002b:3e77fbec=836ad961

Resetting default scope

 

EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1)

 

ExceptionAddress: 76ed40b2 (KERNELBASE!RaiseException+0x00000062)

 

ExceptionCode: e0434352 (CLR exception)

 

ExceptionFlags: 00000001

 

NumberParameters: 5

Parameter[0]: 80131500

Parameter[1]: 00000000

Parameter[2]: 00000000

Parameter[3]: 00000000

Parameter[4]: 714f0000

 

PROCESS_NAME: TESV.exe

 

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR: 80131500

 

MISSING_CLR_SYMBOL: 0

 

FAULTING_THREAD: ffffffff

 

STACK_TEXT:

00000000 00000000 TESV!unknown_function+0x0

 

STACK_COMMAND: ** Pseudo Context ** ManagedPseudo ** Value: 158017b0 ** ; kb

 

SYMBOL_NAME: TESV!unknown_function

 

MODULE_NAME: TESV

 

IMAGE_NAME: TESV.exe

 

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: CLR_EXCEPTION_80131500_TESV.exe!unknown_function

 

OS_VERSION: 10.0.18362.1

 

BUILDLAB_STR: 19h1_release

 

OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x86

 

OSNAME: Windows 10

 

IMAGE_VERSION: 1.9.32.0

 

FAILURE_ID_HASH: {73eaf551-50f6-976e-f8d9-ee0c1f3ef1b0}

 

Followup: MachineOwner

---------

 

0:044> .exr -1

ExceptionAddress: 76ed40b2 (KERNELBASE!RaiseException+0x00000062)

ExceptionCode: e0434352 (CLR exception)

ExceptionFlags: 00000001

NumberParameters: 5

Parameter[0]: 80131500

Parameter[1]: 00000000

Parameter[2]: 00000000

Parameter[3]: 00000000

Parameter[4]: 714f0000

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Hawk9969 said:

What causes your crash? The only thing I am able to see in the dump is something from CLR raising a kernel exception.

its random im not sure, while running outside or heavy loading or while switching outfits with ah hotkeys,   crash fixes says failed to allocate memory sometimes  

Thanks for checking it out

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11 hours ago, sTiNky SpYdeR said:

its random im not sure, while running outside or heavy loading or while switching outfits with ah hotkeys,   crash fixes says failed to allocate memory sometimes  

Thanks for checking it out

How much physical RAM do you've installed?

Also from your dump, I saw a bunch of SKSE plugins being loaded into the TESV.exe process, some of which are redundant (ex: showracemenu precache killer while also running RaceMenu). Bad SKSE plugins can leak memory or allocate huge blocks, causing an exhaustion of available 32-bits virtual memory space within the TESV.exe process.

It's also important to mention that clr.dll (the common language runtime library for the .NET framework) is not loaded by Skyrim itself, even in my heavily modded game it's never loaded into my process.

 

I also see that you are running ENB, do you've Memory:ReduceSystemMemoryUsage enabled within your enblocal.ini?

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On 8/23/2020 at 5:31 PM, Hawk9969 said:

How much physical RAM do you've installed?

Also from your dump, I saw a bunch of SKSE plugins being loaded into the TESV.exe process, some of which are redundant (ex: showracemenu precache killer while also running RaceMenu). Bad SKSE plugins can leak memory or allocate huge blocks, causing an exhaustion of available 32-bits virtual memory space within the TESV.exe process.

It's also important to mention that clr.dll (the common language runtime library for the .NET framework) is not loaded by Skyrim itself, even in my heavily modded game it's never loaded into my process.

 

I also see that you are running ENB, do you've Memory:ReduceSystemMemoryUsage enabled within your enblocal.ini?

 32g of ram ,1080ti 11g sli mods and game are on samsung 2tb m2 drive 

and yes its enabled 

moslty 2k textures except  body and some armor

around 300-400 plugins merged down

i will disable showracemenu precache killer 

im pretty proficient in tesvedit

but i dont really understand scripting 

taskmanager shows up to 9gs of vram being used while im playing skyrim and in tamriel world space  drops to about 5gs when inside cell and crash happens mostly outside

i get lucky and get a few hours of play sometimes but most of the time i crash within half hour

i have a quarter of a sec lag at prettymuch every cell border and am lucky to get 60fps anywhere mostly between 20-50fps 

did you notice any other reduntantcies 

as to the clr.dll im not sure what i should be doing there ?

thanks again for your assistance

 

 

 

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Hello, this is my first post on loverslab. I am now getting CTD's while travelling in area around Halted Stream Camp. I've used your advise, but I need some help decrypting the info my dump file generates. Any help would be very welcome, thanks in advance
 

Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************


KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : AV.Fault
    Value: Read

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 1843

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisProvider.CPP
    Value: Create: 8007007e on DESKTOP-DPAJMUA

    Key  : Analysis.DebugData
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.DebugModel
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 6074

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 180

    Key  : Analysis.System
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 46

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: 19h1_release_svc_prod1

    Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
    Value: 2019-06-28T16:41:00Z

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.18362.239

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 1.9.32.0


ADDITIONAL_XML: 1

OS_BUILD_LAYERS: 1

CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
eax=2196efa0 ebx=01b33578 ecx=2e668000 edx=0007dd87 esi=0000ffff edi=00000000
eip=0007dd87 esp=0019f69c ebp=2e668000 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010206
0007dd87 ??              ???
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 0007dd87
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 0007dd87
Attempt to read from address 0007dd87

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  0007dd87 

FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS: 
+0
0007dd87 ??              ???

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 -                      0x%p                               0x%p.                      %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  0007dd87

IP_ON_HEAP:  0007dd87
The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase
log at <releasedir>\bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may
contain the address if it were loaded.

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
0019f698 008b4386     68f74b68 bcd6e0b0 0019f6cc 0x7dd87
0019f6ec 00a4b0f7     88ae9660 00ab4676 00000000 TESV+0x4b4386
0019f6f4 00ab4676     00000000 bcd6e0b0 7a263118 TESV+0x64b0f7
0019f70c 0046f2a8     2944d9d8 0019f768 88ae9660 TESV+0x6b4676
0019f7cc 00d3066e     b8078c50 00000002 0000003f TESV+0x6f2a8
0019f8a0 00f76e71     0000007f 00000010 0019f950 TESV+0x93066e
0019f9d4 00aae208     18f8ad34 00000000 7a262308 TESV+0xb76e71
0019f9e8 00abe3bd     18f8ad34 00000000 bbce0aa0 TESV+0x6ae208
0019f9fc 00aae208     18f8ad34 00000008 7a263118 TESV+0x6be3bd
0019fa10 00aae208     22013768 894e6a1e 00300000 TESV+0x6ae208
0019fa20 00561905     00000083 00000001 1b3c1ed0 TESV+0x6ae208
0019fa50 005665cc     0019fa70 2e668060 00000007 TESV+0x161905
0019fa78 005671d9     00567209 3f800000 00000000 TESV+0x1665cc
0019fa7c 00567209     3f800000 00000000 bbce73a0 TESV+0x1671d9
005671d9 3b5bff33     8b1174c7 00008880 74c73b00 TESV+0x167209
005671dd 8b1174c7     00008880 74c73b00 e8c88b07 0x3b5bff33
005671e1 00000000     74c73b00 e8c88b07 001b834b 0x8b1174c7


SYMBOL_NAME:  tesv+4b4386

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME:  TESV.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~0s ; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  BAD_INSTRUCTION_PTR_c0000005_TESV.exe!Unknown

OS_VERSION:  10.0.18362.239

BUILDLAB_STR:  19h1_release_svc_prod1

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x86

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  1.9.32.0

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {a665839d-ca21-c287-37ff-412a6491e27e}

Followup:     MachineOwner
---------

0:000> .exr -1
ExceptionAddress: 0007dd87
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 0007dd87
Attempt to read from address 0007dd87
0:000> .ecxr
eax=2196efa0 ebx=01b33578 ecx=2e668000 edx=0007dd87 esi=0000ffff edi=00000000
eip=0007dd87 esp=0019f69c ebp=2e668000 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010206
0007dd87 ??              ???
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Hey guys, gals, & otherwise. Think this is my first post here! :O
So I was going through the OP instructions on debugging, and I can't make heads or tails of it. I was hoping someone here had some idea of where to go from here.
My Skyrim SE install has been pretty solid. I get the very occasional CTD, but it appears to be ramping up in frequency. OFC this leads me to think save game corruption, but I've been keeping my saves clean with Fallrim Tools, and avoiding uninstalling new mods on this playthrough. The crashes are in random locations, interior/exterior, and don't appear to be linked to any particular behavior.
Happy to provide a list of mods & load order if that would be helpful. Here's my crash dump if anyone could possibly help.

Thanks so much!!
 

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Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Chuck\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE\Crashdumps\2020-10-10_21.14.42.dmp]
User Mini Dump File: Only registers, stack and portions of memory are available

WARNING: Minidump contains unknown stream type 0x15
WARNING: Minidump contains unknown stream type 0x16
Symbol search path is: SRV*D:\Games\SkyrimSE Mods\Tools\Debug Tools\SymCache*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is:
Windows 7 Version 18363 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS Personal
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Sat Oct 10 16:00:24.000 2020 (UTC - 6:00)
System Uptime: not available
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:45:45.000
................................................................
................................................................
.................
This dump file has an exception of interest stored in it.
The stored exception information can be accessed via .ecxr.
(3004.257c): Access violation - code c0000005 (first/second chance not available)
ntdll!ZwGetContextThread+0x14:
00007ffa`fc35de04 c3              ret
0:009> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for nvwgf2umx.dll -
Unable to load image D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\data\SKSE\Plugins\Fuz Ro D'oh.dll, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for Fuz Ro D'oh.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for Fuz Ro D'oh.dll
Unable to load image C:\Windows\System32\XAudio2_7.dll, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for XAudio2_7.dll
Failed calling InternetOpenUrl, GLE=12029

FAULTING_IP:
SkyrimSE+10b9f52
00007ff7`870a9f52 f6838200000002  test    byte ptr [rbx+82h],2

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff7870a9f52 (SkyrimSE+0x00000000010b9f52)
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
   Parameter[1]: 0000000000000082
Attempt to read from address 0000000000000082

PROCESS_NAME:  SkyrimSE.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  0000000000000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  0000000000000082

READ_ADDRESS:  0000000000000082

FOLLOWUP_IP:
SkyrimSE+10b9f52
00007ff7`870a9f52 f6838200000002  test    byte ptr [rbx+82h],2

MOD_LIST: <ANALYSIS/>

CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -d !SkyrimSE
    7ff7870a9ed2-7ff7870a9fa3  210 bytes - SkyrimSE+10b9ed2
    [ c9 aa 16 aa d7 5f 6e 8c:cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc ]
    7ff7870a9fa5-7ff7870a9fd1  45 bytes - SkyrimSE+10b9fa5 (+0xd3)
    [ 1f 81 1a a9 1d 9b 39 5b:fe ff ff ff 8b fa 48 8b ]
255 errors : !SkyrimSE (7ff7870a9ed2-7ff7870a9fd1)

FAULTING_THREAD:  000000000000257c

BUGCHECK_STR:  APPLICATION_FAULT_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_NULL_CLASS_PTR_DEREFERENCE_INVALID_POINTER_READ_LARGE

PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS:  MEMORY_CORRUPTION_LARGE

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  MEMORY_CORRUPTION_LARGE

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from 00007ff7870b0fc1 to 00007ff7870a9f52

STACK_TEXT:  
00000011`7d4fee70 00007ff7`870b0fc1 : 00000177`b2ef75c0 00000011`7d4ff039 00000011`7d4feff0 00007ff7`870ef09a : SkyrimSE+0x10b9f52
00000011`7d4feea0 00000177`b2ef75c0 : 00000011`7d4ff039 00000011`7d4feff0 00007ff7`870ef09a ffffffff`fffffffe : SkyrimSE+0x10c0fc1
00000011`7d4feea8 00000011`7d4ff039 : 00000011`7d4feff0 00007ff7`870ef09a ffffffff`fffffffe 00007ff7`865f643a : 0x177`b2ef75c0
00000011`7d4feeb0 00000011`7d4feff0 : 00007ff7`870ef09a ffffffff`fffffffe 00007ff7`865f643a 00000177`b66d3d88 : 0x11`7d4ff039
00000011`7d4feeb8 00007ff7`870ef09a : ffffffff`fffffffe 00007ff7`865f643a 00000177`b66d3d88 00000177`03c083e8 : 0x11`7d4feff0
00000011`7d4feec0 00007ff7`866d7565 : 00000177`b3c25668 00000011`7d4ff039 00000177`b2ef75c0 00000011`7d4ff039 : SkyrimSE+0x10ff09a
00000011`7d4fef00 00007ff7`865efb6c : 00000177`b2ef75c0 00000011`7d4ff000 00000011`7d4feff0 00000177`1016ac00 : SkyrimSE+0x6e7565
00000011`7d4fef40 00007ff7`864179c8 : 00000011`7d4ff000 00000011`00000073 00000177`00000000 00000177`0011b664 : SkyrimSE+0x5ffb6c
00000011`7d4fef90 00007ff7`864163b7 : 00000011`7d4ff001 00000011`7d4ff0f0 00000177`b2232600 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x4279c8
00000011`7d4ff0a0 00007ff7`8641974e : 00000177`b66d3d88 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000177`b52e3818 : SkyrimSE+0x4263b7
00000011`7d4ff0d0 00007ff7`8641974e : 00000177`00000002 00000177`ac8dd198 00000177`b2236a80 00000177`b52e3818 : SkyrimSE+0x42974e
00000011`7d4ff180 00007ff7`86632b43 : 00000177`00000002 00000177`ac8dd198 00000177`b2236a80 00000177`ac8dd198 : SkyrimSE+0x42974e
00000011`7d4ff230 00007ff7`86638f79 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000177`00000073 00000011`7d4ff340 : SkyrimSE+0x642b43
00000011`7d4ff2f0 00007ff7`86675a05 : 00000000`00000012 00000000`0000002e 00000000`00000071 00007ff7`860f6b00 : SkyrimSE+0x648f79
00000011`7d4ff3a0 00007ff7`866314b9 : 00000000`00000012 00007ff7`00000073 00000011`7d4ff538 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x685a05
00000011`7d4ff440 00007ff7`865c6d8f : 00000000`00000012 00000000`00000012 00000000`00000000 00000011`7d4ff6c8 : SkyrimSE+0x6414b9
00000011`7d4ff530 00007ff7`866c4fb7 : 00000011`7d4ff760 00000177`1016ac00 00000000`00000000 00000177`18353630 : SkyrimSE+0x5d6d8f
00000011`7d4ff5a0 00007ff7`866c4352 : 00000177`1016ac00 00000177`0fdb0ea0 00000011`7d4ff6f9 00000177`18353630 : SkyrimSE+0x6d4fb7
00000011`7d4ff670 00007ff7`865a3f9f : 00000177`00000000 00000177`b2e500c0 00000000`00000002 00000177`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x6d4352
00000011`7d4ff760 00007ff7`86c22a81 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x5b3f9f
00000011`7d4ff790 00007ff7`86c24c48 : 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000000 00000000`0000044c : SkyrimSE+0xc32a81
00000011`7d4ff7e0 00007ff7`86bfd6bd : 00000000`0009dfd4 00000000`0009dfd3 00000000`00000000 00000177`aa0385e8 : SkyrimSE+0xc34c48
00000011`7d4ff840 00007ffa`fa517bd4 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0xc0d6bd
00000011`7d4ff880 00007ffa`fc32ce51 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x14
00000011`7d4ff8b0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x21


STACK_COMMAND:  ~9s; .ecxr ; kb

SYMBOL_NAME:  memory_corruption!SkyrimSE

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption

IMAGE_NAME:  memory_corruption

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  0

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  MEMORY_CORRUPTION_LARGE_c0000005_memory_corruption!SkyrimSE

BUCKET_ID:  X64_APPLICATION_FAULT_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_NULL_CLASS_PTR_DEREFERENCE_INVALID_POINTER_READ_LARGE_memory_corruption!SkyrimSE

WATSON_STAGEONE_URL:  http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5dcae282/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5dcae282/c0000005/010b9f52.htm?Retriage=1

Followup: MachineOwner
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35 minutes ago, RavenMind said:

Hey guys, gals, & otherwise. Think this is my first post here! :O
So I was going through the OP instructions on debugging, and I can't make heads or tails of it. I was hoping someone here had some idea of where to go from here.
My Skyrim SE install has been pretty solid. I get the very occasional CTD, but it appears to be ramping up in frequency. OFC this leads me to think save game corruption, but I've been keeping my saves clean with Fallrim Tools, and avoiding uninstalling new mods on this playthrough. The crashes are in random locations, interior/exterior, and don't appear to be linked to any particular behavior.
Happy to provide a list of mods & load order if that would be helpful. Here's my crash dump if anyone could possibly help.

Thanks so much!

 

Install this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21294

 

Next time you crash, look for crash logs here (in your game's data folder):

NetScriptFramework\Crash

 

Much easier to debug with this info.

 

Many CTD's are due to bad meshes, usually head or hair.

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Hi! I recently reinstalled MO1 on my computer and when I try to load a save, from my old saves which I had on a different location and pasted them in the mod organizer installation foler, it quits immidiately to desktop. In Crashfixes log it says: 11 Oct 13:26:58 Game has crashed with exception address 0xBE6CB7! 

 

I don't know what this means and how to fix it. I have set UseOsallocators=1 and Alignheapallocate=1 in crashfixes.ini and I have the correct SKSE settings as well in SKSE.ini

 

Anyone know what this is? I get the same message with the same numbers everytime it crashes. But I don't know what it means. 

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On 10/10/2020 at 5:54 PM, 4nk8r said:

Install this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21294

 

Next time you crash, look for crash logs here (in your game's data folder):

NetScriptFramework\Crash

 

Much easier to debug with this info.

 

Many CTD's are due to bad meshes, usually head or hair.

4nk8r: Just wanted to thank you for pointing me to the NetScript Framework. I think I actually discovered & fixed the issue causing the crashes through some old fashioned detective work, but that's a really neat tool. So, thank you! ❤️

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Greetings! Can you tell me what to do with it or the direction - where to look? CTD occurs either when loading an external cell or after a while in an external cell.

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Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 10.0.19041.1 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\BarahiruS\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\Crashdumps\2020-10-27_05.17.27.dmp]
User Mini Dump File: Only registers, stack and portions of memory are available


************* Path validation summary **************
Response                         Time (ms)     Location
Deferred                                       SRV*C:\SymCache*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*C:\SymCache*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is: 
Windows 7 Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (8 procs) Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Tue Oct 27 13:27:02.000 2020 (UTC + 8:00)
System Uptime: not available
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:09:36.000
................................................................
................................................................
................................................................

This dump file has an exception of interest stored in it.
The stored exception information can be accessed via .ecxr.
(4fd0.536c): Unknown exception - code c0000417 (first/second chance not available)
For analysis of this file, run !analyze -v
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for usvfs_x86.dll
eax=00000000 ebx=bb5c8ff8 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=bb5c8fb8 edi=3009ef40
eip=77100c72 esp=3009ec00 ebp=3009ec10 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00000246
ntdll!NtGetContextThread+0x12:
77100c72 83c404          add     esp,4
0:038> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for DontPushMe.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for JContainers.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.Sec
    Value: 1

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisProvider.CPP
    Value: Create: 8007007e on WIN548RTYET-PC

    Key  : Analysis.DebugData
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.DebugModel
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.Sec
    Value: 9

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 124

    Key  : Analysis.System
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 576


CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
eax=3009f6b8 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=00000022 edi=00000000
eip=00f53759 esp=3009f98c ebp=3009f9b0 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00000206
TESV+0xb53759:
00f53759 83c414          add     esp,14h
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00f53759 (TESV+0x00b53759)
   ExceptionCode: c0000417
  ExceptionFlags: 00000001
NumberParameters: 0

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000417 -                                      .

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000417

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
3009f9b0 00b715e7 3009fa88 00000104 04e805ac TESV+0xb53759
3009f9b4 3009fa88 00000104 04e805ac 25ff5150 TESV+0x7715e7
3009f9b8 00000000 04e805ac 25ff5150 8b6b87c0 0x3009fa88


SYMBOL_NAME:  TESV+b53759

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME:  TESV.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~38s ; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  INVALID_CRUNTIME_PARAMETER_c0000417_TESV.exe!Unknown

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x86

OSNAME:  Windows 7

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {af7134ea-efda-1651-ecc1-e1aea0447eb2}

Followup:     MachineOwner
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2020-10-27_05.17.27.dmp

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hi, i encountered an infinite load screen when i loaded up my save game. i terminated the game via task manager which hanged up for a few seconds before closing the game, which hasn't really happened before - normally task manager kills the game immediately, but i didn't think much of it then. i also found it odd that i got an infinite load screen because the last time i had that was a few months ago before i installed the SKSE.ini that was supposed to fix a few issues including that, and i also just recently installed Crash Fixes and ENBoost which made my game very stable.

 

when i ran the game again and tried to load up the same save, i get a CTD immediately - load screen flashes for a second, then crash, different from the crashes i get from corrupted saves, missing masters, missing mods, etc. which all take way longer than that before crashing.

 

after that, i can't load up any of my saves. i tried the save i made at the very beginning in the alternate start dungeon, tried one inside breezehome, tried latest save, tried the save before that. i tried starting a new game and then loading a save. every time i get a CTD. i've confirmed that it's not save corruption.

 

the only time loading a game worked was when loading a vanilla save and with a vanilla skyrim (vanilla except for skse loader)

 

searching the exception address on this brought up one hit from a post made back in 2018. i didn't see anyone respond to the post.

 

i'm hoping someone could tell me what's wrong, or at least point me in the right direction in trying to comprehend the dump file and debug the game itself. below is the exception alanysis from the latest crash dump:

 

Spoiler

*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hdtHighHeelNative.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for JContainers.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for d3d9.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : AV.Fault
    Value: Read

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 2874

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisProvider.CPP
    Value: Create: 8007007e on SE7EN

    Key  : Analysis.DebugData
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.DebugModel
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 24479

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 145

    Key  : Analysis.System
    Value: CreateObject

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 68

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: 19h1_release

    Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
    Value: 2019-03-18T12:02:00Z

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.18362.1

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 1.9.32.0


ADDITIONAL_XML: 1

OS_BUILD_LAYERS: 1

CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
eax=00000001 ebx=8b578134 ecx=8b578134 edx=8b55fff5 esi=8b578134 edi=8b57814c
eip=00c30740 esp=0019f59c ebp=767bc300 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz ac pe nc
cs=0023  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010216
TESV+0x830740:
00c30740 8b37            mov     esi,dword ptr [edi]  ds:002b:8b57814c=????????
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00c30740 (TESV+0x00830740)
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000000
   Parameter[1]: 8b57814c
Attempt to read from address 8b57814c

PROCESS_NAME:  TESV.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  8b57814c

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  00000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  8b57814c

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
0019f5b0 00c329b1     0101201a 01f33aa8 00000014 TESV+0x830740
0019f5c4 00c32c47     0101201a 0d81e030 00000001 TESV+0x8329b1
0019f5d4 00c3a368     0019f5ec 00000000 00010013 TESV+0x832c47
0019f5ec 00c3a335     00000003 27f2dee0 153faa84 TESV+0x83a368
00000000 00000000     00000000 00000000 00000000 TESV+0x83a335


SYMBOL_NAME:  TESV+830740

MODULE_NAME: TESV

IMAGE_NAME:  TESV.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~0s ; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  INVALID_POINTER_READ_c0000005_TESV.exe!Unknown

OS_VERSION:  10.0.18362.1

BUILDLAB_STR:  19h1_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x86

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  1.9.32.0

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {ea1c794d-1820-ca75-5c7a-300a8060bc7e}

Followup:     MachineOwner
---------

 

 

I have Skyrim LE and I am using MO2. afaik, everything should be up to date

 

below is my mod list:

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     RaceCompatibility.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 10  a     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 15  f     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 16 10     ScocLB.esm
 17 11     CreatureFramework.esm
 18 12     dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm
 19 13     daymoyl.esm
 20 14     hdtHighHeel.esm
 21 15     PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
 22 16     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 23 17     SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
 24 18     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 25 19     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 26 1a     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 27 1b     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 28 1c     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 29 1d     Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
 30 1e     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 32 20     12FemaleBrows.esp
 33 21     HDT Havok Object.esp
 34 22     SexLab Strapon.esp
 35 23     FNIS.esp
 36 24     RaceMenu.esp
 37 25     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 38 26     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 39 27     UIExtensions.esp
 40 28     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 41 29     AMatterOfTime.esp
 42 2a     MilkModNEW.esp
 43 2b     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
 44 2c     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 45 2d     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 46 2e     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 47 2f     SexLab Confabulation.esp
 48 30     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 49 31     troublesofheroine.esp
 50 32     Holidays.esp
 51 33     Milk Addict.esp
 52 34     YurianaWench.esp
 53 35     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 54 36     animal_mansion.esp
 55 37     AnubAnimObj.esp
 56 38     TTT_ArousedNips.esp
 57 39     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 58 3a     TBOS.esp
 59 3b     Run For Your Lives.esp
 60 3c     Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp
 61 3d     zzzSXP.esp
 62 3e     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 63 3f     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 64 40     SexLab Beastess.esp
 65 41     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 66 42     Immersive Wenches.esp
 67 43     Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
 68 44     Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
 69 45     Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
 70 46     Immersive Patrols II.esp
           ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected USLEP.esp
 71 47     PAN_NPCs.esp
 72 48     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 73 49     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 74 4a     troublesofheroineDB.esp
 75 4b     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 76 4c     SLIA - Legendary.esp
 77 4d     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 78 4e     Bijin Wives.esp
 79 4f     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 80 50     Blush When Aroused CE.esp
 81 51     Blush When Aroused.esp
 82 52     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 83 53     SLNaughtyCourier.esp
 84 54     Serana.esp
 85 55     Valerica.esp
 86 56     ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp
 87 57     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 88 58     SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp
 89 59     SlaveTats.esp
 90 5a     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 91 5b     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 92 5c     Devious Devices For Him.esp
 93 5d     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
 94 5e     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 95 5f     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
 96 60     Convenient Horses.esp
 97 61     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
 98 62     DW.esp
 99 63     EstrusChaurus.esp
           EstrusTrappedEggs.esp
100 64     EstrusSpider.esp
101 65     sr_FillHerUp.esp
102 66     FNISSexyMove.esp
103 67     Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp
104 68     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
105 69     TissHeadTrack.esp
106 6a     LuminousAtronachs.esp
107 6b     MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
108 6c     MilkModNEW HF.esp
109 6d     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
110 6e     ModestElderly.esp
           NoNakedComments.esp
111 6f     One With Nature - DG+DB.esp
112 70     PAN_NPCs_DB.esp
113 71     PAN_WarriorWomen.esp
114 72     Real Flying.esp
115 73     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
116 74     SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp
117 75     SLSO.esp
118 76     FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp
119 77     SexLabSexBounty.esp
120 78     SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp
121 79     SexLabSquirtR.esp
122 7a     SexualPersuasion.esp
123 7b     TOH_mannequin_penis.esp
124 7c     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
125 7d     Spank That Ass.esp
126 7e     SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
127 7f     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
128 80     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
129 81     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
130 82     Sleep for Credit.esp
131 83     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
132 84     SLAnimLoader.esp
133 85     SexLabDefeat.esp
134 86     SexLabTools.esp
135 87     SexLabStatsManipulator.esp
136 88     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
137 89     SkyUI.esp
138 8a     SexistGuards.esp
139 8b     Immersive Arousal.esp
140 8c     BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp
141 8d     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
142 8e     BD UUNP Dawnguard armor and cloth replacer.esp
143 8f     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
144 90     BD-UUNP Dragonborn armor clothes replacer.esp
145 91     ZaitamaDragonbornUniqueArmor.esp
146 92     ZaitamaVanillaUniqueArmor.esp
147 93     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
148 94     RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
149 95     SOSRaceMenu.esp
150 96     XPMSE.esp
           Northern Priestess - EX.esp
           [Melodic] Wicked Leather Outfit.esp
           [COCO]Anaconda.esp
           SkyFem SOS Patch.esp
151 97     [Melodic] Super Bodysuit.esp
152 98     BesEss.esp
153 99     FallOfTheDragonborn.esp
154 9a     CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
155 9b     zzEstrus.esp
156 9c     troublesofheroineDG.esp
157 9d     SOS - Shop.esp
158 9e     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
159 9f     Bijin NPCs.esp
160 a0     SexLab_Hormones.esp
161 a1     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
162 a2     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
163 a3     PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
164 a4     dvmb.esp
           daedric remodeled.esp
165 a5     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
166 a6     ccas_starts.esp
167 a7     SkyFem NPC.esp
168 a8     Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

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1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Hmm. Edit button is missing.

 

If all else fails try following this guide:

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

 

thanks m8. i'm halfway into trying that method. i've installed crash fixes, skse.ini, load game ctd fix, still no luck. starting to suspect something other than skyrim and mods now cus my system is running weird. thanks for the help.

 

if you are familiar with this and if you have the time, would you mind pointing me in the general direction of dump file analysis and using debuggers? you don't have to start from the basics, just point me in the direction of useful resources. seeing as how i couldn't find a similar dump file to mine, i wanna investigate further and come up with a solution for other people to refer to

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7 hours ago, manakanaki said:

dump file analysis and using debuggers?

IMHO they are a waste of time. 99% of in-game CTDs (at random times and places) are memory management related. The fact that the finger is pointing at a particular mod means nothing. The mod may just be the 'straw that broke the camel's back'. This is why I suggested double-checking ENBoost etc.

https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost

 

Scan the 50 pages of this thread and see how many problems were solved by debug info.

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