Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

[Punga]

What have you scamps been up to while I was away?

 

New patch - hooray, thanks Inte

 

Tried to bring a bucket back from Budapest for Punga but it was confiscated by Customs - Sorry Punga

 

EDIT:

 

Inte - Is the ZAP weapon bug fixed in 8u as there's nothing about it in the patch notes?

 

EDIT2

 

Just tested using the same steps as before and the weapon is now drawn correctly.

 

Also, it was reported that there was a problem sleeping in non-hardcore mode. I always test using non-hardcore to speed things up and I had no problems sleeping in Dawnstar jail.

 

EDIT3 A Bugitty Bug

 

When installing 8u it always seems to show a notice that the registration has failed and to reset POP. However if left long enough (without resetting) the POP Ready does appear and all the aliases are filled and it seems to work normally. I have reset just to be safe but it looks like a false error report from what I've seen

 

Look who's back.  How was Boston? 

 

I not getting the reset thing on a clean save. 

[Slorm]

 

Look who's back.  How was Boston? 

 

 

 

Not Boston, but Budapest in Hungary (great place btw, I had a great time there)

[Punga]

I see. 

[Punga]

I'm fixing to go visit Boston GOTY myself.

[sophiextime]

Hello

 

I have a question please. 

 

Is it possible to set up this mod via MCM somehow so that when arrested i can set it so i never leave the cell for the entire sentence? For example uncheck all parades?

 

I tried unchecking the cage scenario and parade etc hoping that i remain in my cell for the entire set sentence with only cell visits from guards and maybe jailer who bring food and also randomly enter to have sex with my character. Dont get me wrong i think the scenario's are very cool and break up the sentence but if i did wish to just be put in a cell and kept there, is that a thing? If it is i cant seem to find it. No matter what i uncheck i always get taken to the town center and put in a pillory.

Was hoping this might be a future option if its not at the moment. I generally set my prison sentences to about 3 - 5 days and hardcore turned off.

 

Thanks.

[Inte]

So if you uncheck all pillory punishments you'll still get locked in the pillory? 

[sophiextime]

Yes. i unchecked all scenarios, hoping that it would avoid me even being escorted out on any parade from the prison cell. My aim was to be left in my cell for the full duration of my sentence, only visited to be brought food or used/abused in the cell itself. But even when i un-check all scenarios and reduce all pillory punishments to 0, i still get a jailer attend my cell, cuff me and walk me out to the pillory. Nothing happens to me when i get put in the pillory ( sexually) but i still get removed from my jail cell. 

 

How do i set up my MCM menu so that once i am first put in my cell, i remain there until released, even if that is after a few days? is that a thing or is Prison overhaul at minimum always going to parade me outside? Again, i love the pillory, parades and cage scenarios but i am just curious and hoping to setup a way to never be taken out of my cell until my sentence is served. lol

[aspirine2]

any future plans about adding the feature of lovers true crime (pc sharing the jail cage with a criminal) that takes benefit of the pc and treat her like a fertile pregnant cow ..??

[Punga]

any future plans about adding the feature of lovers true crime (pc sharing the jail cage with a criminal) that takes benefit of the pc and treat her like a fertile pregnant cow ..??

 

The guards, jailer and nobles not enough for ya? 

Set events to happen every hour, and your pc won't even have time to breathe. 

[aspirine2]

 

any future plans about adding the feature of lovers true crime (pc sharing the jail cage with a criminal) that takes benefit of the pc and treat her like a fertile pregnant cow ..??

 

The guards, jailer and nobles not enough for ya? 

Set events to happen every hour, and your pc won't even have time to breathe. 

 

you are right ...

[Slorm]

It's not a bug it's a feature

 

I ran into the Hardcore error tonight (first arrest in this game), hardcore not toggled on but unable to use sleeping bag (E - Unable to interact or something like that).

 

I was however able to use Wait so on balance I rather like this feature/bug as you probably would leave jail pretty tired (using RND)

[Inte]

Were the cuffs on? They stay on for violent crimes, regardless of the hardcore option. 

With the new object activation system it would be quite easy to exclude the beds from being blocked, but I do not think I want to do that. 

[Slorm]

Were the cuffs on? They stay on for violent crimes, regardless of the hardcore option. 

With the new object activation system it would be quite easy to exclude the beds from being blocked, but I do not think I want to do that. 

 

Ahh, yes they were, I'd got caught for knocking off Betild. I'd leave it as it is I rather like it as the "Wait" still works

[Militus]

I've cleaned all my saves, as I was using only the V033 fix version before stumbling upon this- retrying to go into the Prison Overhaul menu it says something about an error. Expected: 388 and I only have 380, whatever that may mean- is this something I need to worry about?

Edit: Seems only to happen when I try too fast to make changes, I need to let the patch kick in first-- this is great. You're great. Thank you!

[gmattwsn]

Hey, Inte, I'm really liking the mod so far. If you're willing to entertain some suggestions, I have a few ideas:

 

-Race/quest/thane/crime-specific dialogue

 

I like the current dialogue, but one thing that would help enhance the immersion would be dialogues where the jailer, guards, bounty hunter, or citizens comment on your race or what questlines you've done or what crimes you've committed. For example:

"Time to pay for your crimes, elf!"

"You may be a thane out there, but in here you're just scum to me."

"You won't magic your way out of this, wizard!"

"Taste the whip, murderer!"

 

-More derogatory/cruel/nasty/derisive dialogues

 

While the current dialogue is solid, I think it would enhance the immersion and roleplay if the guards and jailer had more vicious and derogatory dialogue toward the player. Insulting them, calling them criminal scum while whipping or raping them, etc. Maybe citizens insult you in the street for your crimes too? For example:

"You're going to rot in here, scum!"

"Time to taste the whip, filth!"

 

-"Silliness switch" for some dialogues

 

Some of the dialogue is genuinely amusing and funny, but if you're aiming for a more serious game, lines like "It's cool whip time!" can break immersion. Maybe add a condition to some of the funny lines and an MCM menu option to enable or disable these sorts of lines? If someone is playing a silly character they'll work, but if someone wants a darker or more serious roleplay they can disable the lines for better immersion. Just a thought. 

 

-A new event type: "Entertain the Guards"

 

The idea here is that instead of being sent to the pillory or cage scenario, after a parade or being taken out of the cell, the jailer escorts the prisoner to the guard barracks or the middle of the jail (i.e. the torture room right outside the cells in the Windhelm jail), where the guards have their way with the criminal for a while. Between sessions the prisoner would be put in some ZAZ furniture or locked in a ZAZ pose and the guards would taunt them.

 

-Option to enable/disable gags during punishments or select which gag is used during a punishment.

 

This would be a nice option for a couple of reasons. First, sometimes a player might want to hear their prisoner's moans and screams while they're being fucked bloody by the the guards, especially if they're using custom voice types for a rape event. Or perhaps a player has enabled only anal or vaginal sex and wants to see a panel gag, the cloth gag, a custom DD gag, or log gag instead. (I'm a log gag and cloth gag fan myself). Also, I ran into this issue when using a custom race (Dagi-Raht with Race Compatibility), where a muzzle gag was used on my character despite it not fitting her face (since the PO interpreted her as a khajiit per Race Compatibility and thus gave her a muzzle). Being able to disable the gag would help circumvent this problem.

 

More options is always fun!

 

-Option to have the jailer lock the prisoner in ZAZ furnitures/wall shackles while in the cell overnight

 

Basically what it says. If you're guilty of violent crimes past a certain threshold, the jailer either exercises his cruelty or takes no chances and puts you (plus your follower) in some furniture overnight, only taking you down for your regularly scheduled whipping and raping. This could be enabled in the MCM menu so players could choose whether to be allowed to walk around or be locked up tight.

 

I bring this up because not only do we have the iconic and erotic image of the helpless, naked prisoner shackled to the wall, but also because otherwise the ZAZ furnitures put in the cells don't get much use if they're purely optional (and get buggy if you're already handcuffed). Some players might want that big, scary jailer bastard to shackle their criminals up tight.    And speaking of scary jailer bastards....

 

-More jailer outfits

 

Maybe it's just me, but the default jailer outfit gets a bit stale after a while. You know who looks properly scary? That executioner at the beginning of the game with the ringmail armor and that executioner's hood. The idea of being dragged down to the dungeon and coming face to face with a big, burly jailer wearing that executioner's outfit is.... ahem, well.... interesting. An MCM option to set the jailer's clothing and give him a helmet/hood would be awesome!

 

-Post-prison debuff

 

This would depend heavily on the player, but maybe a debuff after getting released that reduces health, magicka, and stamina for a few days, reflecting the trauma of what you've gone through while in prison?

 

Anyway, just some ideas for ways to make this mod that much more amazing! Take care and have fun!

[Punga]

I think I saw Inte in Boston.

[Slorm]

Ah, the ignominy, I was arrested for petty crimes - me for petty crimes, I don't visit a jail for less than a thousand septims. Pahh... I'll be laughed out of the DB for this

 

Anyway it raised a question. I noticed that the Jailer still has some fun with the prisoner (on going to the pillory then on leaving the cell for release) though nothing else fires which is correct. Should the Jailer rape the prisoner for petty crimes, I thought that was for minor crimes. TBH I'm not that familiar with either as I'm always inside for major crimes

 

[Inte]

Hey, Inte, I'm really liking the mod so far. If you're willing to entertain some suggestions, I have a few ideas:

 

 

-Race/quest/thane/crime-specific dialogue

 

I like the current dialogue, but one thing that would help enhance the immersion would be dialogues where the jailer, guards, bounty hunter, or citizens comment on your race or what questlines you've done or what crimes you've committed. For example:

"Time to pay for your crimes, elf!"

"You may be a thane out there, but in here you're just scum to me."

"You won't magic your way out of this, wizard!"

"Taste the whip, murderer!"

 

-More derogatory/cruel/nasty/derisive dialogues

 

While the current dialogue is solid, I think it would enhance the immersion and roleplay if the guards and jailer had more vicious and derogatory dialogue toward the player. Insulting them, calling them criminal scum while whipping or raping them, etc. Maybe citizens insult you in the street for your crimes too? For example:

"You're going to rot in here, scum!"

"Time to taste the whip, filth!"

 

-"Silliness switch" for some dialogues

 

Some of the dialogue is genuinely amusing and funny, but if you're aiming for a more serious game, lines like "It's cool whip time!" can break immersion. Maybe add a condition to some of the funny lines and an MCM menu option to enable or disable these sorts of lines? If someone is playing a silly character they'll work, but if someone wants a darker or more serious roleplay they can disable the lines for better immersion. Just a thought. 

 

-A new event type: "Entertain the Guards"

 

The idea here is that instead of being sent to the pillory or cage scenario, after a parade or being taken out of the cell, the jailer escorts the prisoner to the guard barracks or the middle of the jail (i.e. the torture room right outside the cells in the Windhelm jail), where the guards have their way with the criminal for a while. Between sessions the prisoner would be put in some ZAZ furniture or locked in a ZAZ pose and the guards would taunt them.

 

-Option to enable/disable gags during punishments or select which gag is used during a punishment.

 

This would be a nice option for a couple of reasons. First, sometimes a player might want to hear their prisoner's moans and screams while they're being fucked bloody by the the guards, especially if they're using custom voice types for a rape event. Or perhaps a player has enabled only anal or vaginal sex and wants to see a panel gag, the cloth gag, a custom DD gag, or log gag instead. (I'm a log gag and cloth gag fan myself). Also, I ran into this issue when using a custom race (Dagi-Raht with Race Compatibility), where a muzzle gag was used on my character despite it not fitting her face (since the PO interpreted her as a khajiit per Race Compatibility and thus gave her a muzzle). Being able to disable the gag would help circumvent this problem.

 

More options is always fun!

 

-Option to have the jailer lock the prisoner in ZAZ furnitures/wall shackles while in the cell overnight

 

Basically what it says. If you're guilty of violent crimes past a certain threshold, the jailer either exercises his cruelty or takes no chances and puts you (plus your follower) in some furniture overnight, only taking you down for your regularly scheduled whipping and raping. This could be enabled in the MCM menu so players could choose whether to be allowed to walk around or be locked up tight.

 

I bring this up because not only do we have the iconic and erotic image of the helpless, naked prisoner shackled to the wall, but also because otherwise the ZAZ furnitures put in the cells don't get much use if they're purely optional (and get buggy if you're already handcuffed). Some players might want that big, scary jailer bastard to shackle their criminals up tight.    And speaking of scary jailer bastards....

 

-More jailer outfits

 

Maybe it's just me, but the default jailer outfit gets a bit stale after a while. You know who looks properly scary? That executioner at the beginning of the game with the ringmail armor and that executioner's hood. The idea of being dragged down to the dungeon and coming face to face with a big, burly jailer wearing that executioner's outfit is.... ahem, well.... interesting. An MCM option to set the jailer's clothing and give him a helmet/hood would be awesome!

 

-Post-prison debuff

 

This would depend heavily on the player, but maybe a debuff after getting released that reduces health, magicka, and stamina for a few days, reflecting the trauma of what you've gone through while in prison?

 

Anyway, just some ideas for ways to make this mod that much more amazing! Take care and have fun!

 

 

Yes, my dialog is definitely meh. Most lines were meant as place holders till I could think of something better.

Ah, the ignominy, I was arrested for petty crimes - me for petty crimes, I don't visit a jail for less than a thousand septims. Pahh... I'll be laughed out of the DB for this

 

Anyway it raised a question. I noticed that the Jailer still has some fun with the prisoner (on going to the pillory then on leaving the cell for release) though nothing else fires which is correct. Should the Jailer rape the prisoner for petty crimes, I thought that was for minor crimes. TBH I'm not that familiar with either as I'm always inside for major crimes

Jailer's fun is controlled through the MCM only and it is not crime dependent. 

[Militus]

I've cleaned all my saves, as I was using only the V033 fix version before stumbling upon this- retrying to go into the Prison Overhaul menu it says something about an error. Expected: 388 and I only have 380, whatever that may mean- is this something I need to worry about?

 

Edit: Seems only to happen when I try too fast to make changes, I need to let the patch kick in first-- this is great. You're great. Thank you!

Seems I had some issues after all.

 

When I am arrested- which does work fine now.. I notice that when I get taken into the prison, a few things can happen..

 

- The jailer abuses me and nothing else triggers. I skipped 24 hours and nothing happened even.

     - Sometimes I fall through the map or my game flat out crashes, my char and the jailer do the exact same animation so it looks off.

 

- I'm pulled out and put on the cross, and fall through the map.

 

- I'm put in the pillory (once) and no punishments happened, but it was a minor crime idk if that's why.

 

 

Either way, I am instantly put in and removed from it again to go to an event. (If I don't get abused by the jailer & get stuck)

I also don't get food despite it being on random.

[Punga]

Ah, the ignominy, I was arrested for petty crimes - me for petty crimes, I don't visit a jail for less than a thousand septims. Pahh... I'll be laughed out of the DB for this

 

Anyway it raised a question. I noticed that the Jailer still has some fun with the prisoner (on going to the pillory then on leaving the cell for release) though nothing else fires which is correct. Should the Jailer rape the prisoner for petty crimes, I thought that was for minor crimes. TBH I'm not that familiar with either as I'm always inside for major crimes

 

DB?

[Slorm]

 

DB?

 

 

The Dark Brotherhood my friend, the Dark Brotherhood...

 

[Punga]

Ah, I never played that questline. Being judge jury and executioner never sat right with me. 

[LazyBoot]

When it comes to the Dark Brotherhood, the player would only qualify for the last one. Any decisions about who or why are completely out of your hands. You just get a "kill person x, because we said so!"

[DonQuiWho]

When it comes to the Dark Brotherhood, the player would only qualify for the last one. Any decisions about who or why are completely out of your hands. You just get a "kill person x, because we said so!"

 

I am praying to the Dark Mother daily for Punga's soul. 

 

The executioner will get a bonus if his or her secateurs lop off the head too

 

[Inte]

 

I've cleaned all my saves, as I was using only the V033 fix version before stumbling upon this- retrying to go into the Prison Overhaul menu it says something about an error. Expected: 388 and I only have 380, whatever that may mean- is this something I need to worry about?

 

Edit: Seems only to happen when I try too fast to make changes, I need to let the patch kick in first-- this is great. You're great. Thank you!

Seems I had some issues after all.

 

When I am arrested- which does work fine now.. I notice that when I get taken into the prison, a few things can happen..

 

- The jailer abuses me and nothing else triggers. I skipped 24 hours and nothing happened even.

     - Sometimes I fall through the map or my game flat out crashes, my char and the jailer do the exact same animation so it looks off.

 

- I'm pulled out and put on the cross, and fall through the map.

 

- I'm put in the pillory (once) and no punishments happened, but it was a minor crime idk if that's why.

 

 

Either way, I am instantly put in and removed from it again to go to an event. (If I don't get abused by the jailer & get stuck)

I also don't get food despite it being on random.

 

 

1. Has to be a major crimes arrest for the full punishments.

 

 2. Falling through the map is a new one, not sure why that happens in your game. Try resetting your SL and/or SL animation registry.

 

3. Random can drop no food.