Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

[tamerishka]

are you making prison overhaul 2 ?looks like you've done way more work on this than xaz and wondered if you wouldn't prefer to make it in "your own image" as it were, of course I have no idea of the amount of work that would be but you clearly know the mod inside out!

[deskchairlamnp]

Hello,

 

The BO keeps getting stuck in different locations (not on terrain or objects, just stops moving), "reffered path" thing does not help. Could there be an option for BO to teleport to jail when he is close ? or a workaround.

[Inte]

You can,

• In console select the leader bounty hunter and type

   TC 

  this will allow you to control the BH's movement. While controlling the BH you can take him/her further down the road. Repeat the previous command to return control to your PC.
• In the PO MCM 'General' page there is an option to skip travel. Set this option to 'Once'.

[deskchairlamnp]

O sorry, did not notice the skip travel option. 

 

 

Thanks for a quick reply !

[Inte]

You should try the first option first, it's much more fun.  

[Snook001]

Hi,

 

Great mod and great idea.  I relay love your expansion.

 

I was just thinking of an idea, and maybe it is set but relay don't work for me , or maybe it has been proposed but when I saw there were 135 pages to read :(  I thought I would just ask .

 

See I have this bad habit.  When money is short, I just remove all my gold, get arrested, feed... (Succubus ) and get freed.  But there is still the amount to pay (The bonus...taxe...well some kind of fee that is usually collected even when arrested).  When you have no money it should be payed. 

 

So I thought... if you don't have any money... cause you're cheap... like me ... >>Cheap date here<<

 

Maybe you should be sold into slavery (simple slavery) automatically to pay for the fine  (next patch).  Maybe something configurable for those with a system that need to avoid that.

 

Or maybe not have it trigger if we are already slave (the owner of the slave should go to gail) .

 

Just an idea like that. 

 

Thanks for reading, and once again really good mod.  

[Inte]

If you have SS installed, your PC will be sold into slavery at the end of the sentence or on escape. The chance configurable in the MCM.

[Snook001]

Yeah, I have SS installed, but so far I have it set at 25% and never got sold.  So my suggestion is if you don't have enough money for your fine and the bounty you get sold into slavery to refund the cost of your rehabilitation .  Also I wonder if we should be sold in slavery if we are Thane of the old where we are imprison.... or maybe have that title removed with all the benefit...  Just some idea like that.

[ziacer]

So i have this issue where i keep getting stuck on punishment events (pillory/parade etc.) they simply never end. I tried every debug command in the book to no avail. For some reason the first one went over fine but i simply cannot get the second one to end properly. I did not wait but i did accelerate the time scale by a fair bit, not sure if that's it though.

Also the jailer got stuck in the cell and i had to debug her out of there to get the event going in the first place, doubt it is related but i have seen stranger stuff with skyrims mods.

[DeannaA]

Is there any way to be taken to jailer's place after an arrest? I'm just curious

[Punga]

Is there any way to be taken to jailer's place after an arrest? I'm just curious

 

If you get arrested for Winterhold or Markarth, you'll be taken to the Jailer's Place and punished by the nobles there.

 

PS: Make sure "the Winterhold guard arrest through POP" is checkmarked. 

[JahReit]

Just installed newest patch and need a little help with MCM.  My eyes are bad so I might have missed something with the wrist cuffs - they don't release when my PC is in the cell.  I unchecked hard core (which should never have been default in the first place) and I checked the only place I could find to release the cuffs while in the jail cell.  I there something else I need to check/uncheck?

Also have the guards, jailer and others "warp" in like a conjuration spell both in the jail and outside at the pillory.  And yes, I have teleport turned off.

[Inte]

The cuffs will not release if major crime and/or hardcore.

 

For the warp make sure 'Use the Teleport FX' is set to 'No One'.

[JahReit]

The cuffs will not release if major crime and/or hardcore.

 

For the warp make sure 'Use the Teleport FX' is set to 'No One'.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  So arrested for major crime is a death sentence?  No justice system in this universe nor skyrim's universe would keep an individual hand cuffed while in a jail cell with no way to eat or drink.  Make no sense.  Just hand cuff them outside next to an open grave and wait 2 days for the "needs" mod to kill them.  That would save on food and drink which unnecessarily drop after every good-time visit at night.   Save the city some money and don't even drop the food and drink.   I take it you've never been in jail or you'd know how incredulous that is.  If you can find just one prison in the US or UK or any halfway civilized country where they keep death row inmates in hand cuffs while in their cell, I'll relent and apologize.  btw, those on death row HAVE committed a major crime.

 

I know this is your mod and I appreciate all the great work you've done and the time spent doing it, but it would be nice if you would make an appropriate realistic option for those of us who would like a somewhat immersive game play.

[Inte]

No, I have never been in jail nor do I plan to.

 

Also, major crime is not a death sentence. Hands are cuffed yes, but there is access to the inventory and therefore the dropped food. And yes, I did eat with my hands tied behind my back and although messy sometimes, it is quite possible.   

 

[tamerishka]

morning

 

[JahReit]

Still, what possible reason would a prisoner have their hands cuffed while in a cell.  Sorry, but there is no way to make that sound reasonable/immersive.  Would it be to much work to add an option for realistic game play?

On the other hand, I guess it is as realistic as the town beggar paying his yearly alms for a couple shots at the pillory bound PC instead of buying a bottle of boozes or a meal. 

 

I guess this would be as good a time as any to ask a question I haven't quite figured out:  Why the exorbitant amount of 66 gold?  Is that number arbitrary or does it have a specific meaning for you?

 

Sorry to be a pain, just trying to make my game play more enjoyable which isn't your problem nor responsibility.  I've always been a stickler for logic where possible - it's a blessing and a curse.

[bicobus]

Inte and Slorm are probably in jail again.

No, I have never been in jail nor do I plan to.

 

Also, major crime is not a death sentence. Hands are cuffed yes, but there is access to the inventory and therefore the dropped food. And yes, I did eat with my hands tied behind my back and although messy sometimes, it is quite possible.

 

About being restrained in the cells: this is a kink fantasy. There are no reason other to serve the kink. Also skyrim isn't realistic either.

 

As for why there is no "realistic" option must be because Inte do not have any particular incline for it. You're supposed to get a BDSM session when jailed, it's the whole point of the mod.

[tamerishka]

Still, what possible reason would a prisoner have their hands cuffed while in a cell.  Sorry, but there is no way to make that sound reasonable/immersive.  Would it be to much work to add an option for realistic game play?

On the other hand, I guess it is as realistic as the town beggar paying his yearly alms for a couple shots at the pillory bound PC instead of buying a bottle of boozes or a meal. 

 

I guess this would be as good a time as any to ask a question I haven't quite figured out:  Why the exorbitant amount of 66 gold?  Is that number arbitrary or does it have a specific meaning for you?

 

Sorry to be a pain, just trying to make my game play more enjoyable which isn't your problem nor responsibility.  I've always been a stickler for logic where possible - it's a blessing and a curse.

please calm down you'll have an annurism ,did you know you can adjust everything in the mcm menu to your liking ,being as my pc is only in jail 24 hours and dangerous the handcuffs seem fine [and love the pose ] no food, have you been in a police cell for 24 hrs ? trust me they don't give a shit if you've eaten.

[JahReit]

Sorry if I was misunderstood, I was talking about MY game of 10 days in jail.  Didn't mean to suggest YOUR game of 1 day jail time was the problem.  I guess I just took it for granted we all are aware that everyone has different play styles, which is why I suggest an option, so you could play your style and I could play mine.  Logic can be emotional logic or intellectual logic.

[tamerishka]

Sorry if I was misunderstood, I was talking about MY game of 10 days in jail.  Didn't mean to suggest YOUR game of 1 day jail time was the problem.  I guess I just took it for granted we all are aware that everyone has different play styles, which is why I suggest an option, so you could play your style and I could play mine.  Logic can be emotional logic or intellectual logic.

i'm guessing you killed a guard in town ,so you deserve it you monster {really ten days , wow , I basically get raped for 24hrs then sold] did I mention you can customise everything you're going on about in mcm menu presently ,everything

[DonQuiWho]

@ Inte

 

The last set of exchanges got me thinking.  Shouldn't Major/Hardcore prisoners maybe not also have to be gagged when in the cells?  

 

If they are cuffed so as not to be able to bash or scratch anyone, why not ring gagged, so that whilst they can at least eat their slops off the floor, they can't bite, or shout intelligible abuse at, the jailer?

 

 

 

 

 

[bicobus]

Yeah, so you can define how much a day is worth to substract from your bounty. I find 400-500g of bounty for a day to be a good balance for the common crimes. However the system is wanting, as it is easy to rack up a huge bounty and be confined for a month. Especially with the skoomawhore addicted addon. Using the bounty amount to define the severity of a punishment isn't the best choice around in term of game mechanic. I could carry around a lot of stolen and valuable goods, which would send me away for the same amount of time than an assault/murder. I find that a bit silly, I mean, who goes to jail over some forks, spoons and silver goblets (and allegedly 3581 stolen gold coins)?

[tamerishka]

Yeah, so you can define how much a day is worth to substract from your bounty. I find 400-500g of bounty for a day to be a good balance for the common crimes. However the system is wanting, as it is easy to rack up a huge bounty and be confined for a month. Especially with the skoomawhore addicted addon. Using the bounty amount to define the severity of a punishment isn't the best choice around in term of game mechanic. I could carry around a lot of stolen and valuable goods, which would send me away for the same amount of time than an assault/murder. I find that a bit silly, I mean, who goes to jail over some forks, spoons and silver goblets (and allegedly 3581 stolen gold coins)?

anyone who wants to be raped!

[bicobus]

Khajiit stole nothing!

 

Khajiit is innocent of this crime!