MadSummoner Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Some dialogues pass with the speed of light I have Fuz Ro Doh 60-14884-6-0
Wotanpower Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Ich besitze Keinen Regler can in MCN nichts EINSTELLEN
zaira Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 I want to give you a hint how a bug report should look like: First I expect that you have installed all dependencies properly and run FNIS after update / installation Second I expect that you have tried to reproduce it with a clean save - it is impossible for me to reproduce issues that may be caused by blown up save games Third I expect that you read and understand the warnings about mod interference's - I am unable and unwilling to take every foreign mod into account And if you still be motivated to help me to make this mod better: What did I do What has happened before Which quest Which scene (or which is/was the last dialog with which actors) Where When (daytime) Which version A list of activated mods + order would be helpful - please zip it before attaching - we should not unnecessarily blow up the LL server Papyrus.log - please zip it before attaching - we should not unnecessarily blow up the LL server Otherwise I will ignore the report in 99% of the cases because it would be a waste of my time. Regarding controls: Sorry - but I built the mod with controller and keyboard in mind. I am a one men army and do not have the time and the mood to think about alternative controller methods. Maria Eden is delivered with full sources - so everybody who don't like it how it is can make it better.
aqqh Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Few things - when owner confiscate money from me that gold is not added to current saldo. It just disappears. I found a way around it but i still hope it is not intended... Gold from whoring is calculated properly. - and this "You can whore yourself out without being enslaved - but keep attention whom you sell your body..." It is based on bandit ally / friend factions right? It's just no good. Its just there is VERY few NPCs like that - and next to none that could be found in cities. I would suggest basing it on Actor Value Morality. - number of NPCs does not start the "Der Hurenjob" quest. Thieves guild members for example (Sapphire or Brynjolf). After talking to them quest remains inactive. Btw i expected them to trigger this "keep attention whom you sell your body..." Not sure if log would be of any use for these but if you want i can post one.
zaira Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 Few things - when owner confiscate money from me that gold is not added to current saldo. It just disappears. I found a way around it but i still hope it is not intended... Gold from whoring is calculated properly. - and this "You can whore yourself out without being enslaved - but keep attention whom you sell your body..." It is based on bandit ally / friend factions right? It's just no good. Its just there is VERY few NPCs like that - and next to none that could be found in cities. I would suggest basing it on Actor Value Morality. - number of NPCs does not start the "Der Hurenjob" quest. Thieves guild members for example (Sapphire or Brynjolf). After talking to them quest remains inactive. Btw i expected them to trigger this "keep attention whom you sell your body..." Not sure if log would be of any use for these but if you want i can post one. I'm fixing those issues..
atznk1ller Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 is it possible to be enslaved within an existing game? without being killed or so?
zaira Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 is it possible to be enslaved within an existing game? without being killed or so? Talk to an actor - you can offer yourself as a slave to anyone but children
Emprah Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I have just a quick question. Would this mod be safe to use with follower mods like Amazing Follower weaks? And if I use Sexlab Defeat would the master NPC be treated as any other follower for the defeat scenarios?
zaira Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 I have just a quick question. Would this mod be safe to use with follower mods like Amazing Follower weaks? And if I use Sexlab Defeat would the master NPC be treated as any other follower for the defeat scenarios? Maria Eden got's its own follower system and pushes the NPC out of the potential follower faction while being a mistress. This should prevent follower overhauls from interfere with ME. However - you should not use any AFT function on a mistress or on a slaver. Defeat simply won't recognize your mistress as your follower.
atznk1ller Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Ok, last question... is it normal that Maria is just sitting on the throne all the time? or if not, what do i have to do so she goes to other cities and stuff?
nameless701 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 You mean the scene in MEs home? leave the house and she will follow you
Suke Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 After I became a slave all the dialogue for the quest doesn't show up in the options.
eric_starbuck Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 EDIT: before reading my post, Sorry, I missed some information that I then gathered by reading the last pages of this topic. Especially about slave disposition and "may I leave you" dialogue. Apparently I was equipping armors and weapons without permission. Maria must be furious. but she never told me not to wear or equip them ingame. This Mod would require a full manual. Unfortunately the slave book got confiscated almost immediately ingame. maybe the information was there. _______________________ Well, I must admit that I was sceptical about this mod. I was wrong terribly wrong! To uninstall all slavery ad kinky mods relying on Sexlab aroused was quite a challenge but I can say that this mod is the best slavery mod so far! Great Job! No, really! It changed all the skyrim scenarios and making me play the whole weekend without discovering all the features it includes. Sorry for my English, I am Italian and if you want I can provide the translation if anyone volunteered for this before. Now, coming to the questions about the mod and the bugs I found: Questions: Why can I ask to leave Maria alone and it is not a problem to her? If I ask to go for a turn she always say “it can’t be helped”. Another master set the quest with the 4 hours to go back and then send the thugs after me. What is the difference? What does the mood depend on? Money incomes? What should happen when I ask “would you like some entertainment?” she just says “of course” and then nothing happens. What does the “jail” button in the training phase? It releases me from Aaron? At least this is what happens to me. How do I trigger the quests? I went around skyrim for a while, but besides the “tavern waiting” or “tavern sleeping/go home”, very few happened. I have also reduced the hours between events to 1. I wandered around military camps for a long time to see what would have happened… well nothing in my case, if not a standard whipping in the x-cross of the camp or sleeping in the camp. When I got sold to another NPG I got in troubles with giants (I was trying to get him killed to see what happens but I think masters are essential), and I was captured and placed in a cage at a bandit camp. Then the master stayed there, outside the camp and the quest-log got confused, I got both captured and goods delivery and slave of XX active. While slave to Maria, the bandits, forsworn etc… are all friendly. How should I proceed in the game? Just by whoring around? Can’t I make quests with my mistress at my side to earn money? (of course in pause/city/travel phase she still need to be “demanding”). If a quest involves killing a bandit leader she gets hostile if I attack them. What should I do after the capture quest? I got a message saying: "you have 4 hours to way" what does that mean? i managed to walk away for several hours but the message stays on. if i wait or fast travel the mission is failed. how do I escape the capture scenario? Bugs: I have the absent/flashing subtitles for just some dialogues. Sometimes Maria approaches me and makes the “take” animation, and moving her lips, but no dialogue appears. It appears she is taking the gold I have. Some other times she then stood still, so I tried to strip and kneel and she begun to whip. But the order didn’t appear on screen. I have the “thank after whipping” bug. It is just not possible to do that, since I always get the standard slave dialogue. Dancing in the bannered mare. It worked just once, usually I start dancing and nobody cares or comment. And then “Maria is busy” appears. I think that she couldn’t give me the dancing dress. In the “waiting outside inn” quest, sometimes the master gets out immediately and just stands there. I can wait for days but he doesn’t move. In maria house, when sleeping in the cell with the dog, she goes to her bed, make the undress animation and then she keeps running towards the cell bars forever. If I go to sleep for 8 hours, then the quest proceeds normally. I think you should exclude animals from capture or comment. i got captured by a mudcrab and whipped by a dog. it was weird. The most important thing I can say after all is THANK YOU! Great mod!
eric_starbuck Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 One more thing, if I chose to start free, to whom may I ask for company if i want to get enslaved trough bad end prostitution? The idea is great. I wanted to try this feature.
zaira Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 Why can I ask to leave Maria alone and it is not a problem to her? If I ask to go for a turn she always say “it can’t be helped”. Another master set the quest with the 4 hours to go back and then send the thugs after me. What is the difference? What does the mood depend on? Money incomes? What should happen when I ask “would you like some entertainment?” she just says “of course” and then nothing happens. What does the “jail” button in the training phase? It releases me from Aaron? At least this is what happens to me. How do I trigger the quests? I went around skyrim for a while, but besides the “tavern waiting” or “tavern sleeping/go home”, very few happened. I have also reduced the hours between events to 1. I wandered around military camps for a long time to see what would have happened… well nothing in my case, if not a standard whipping in the x-cross of the camp or sleeping in the camp. When I got sold to another NPG I got in troubles with giants (I was trying to get him killed to see what happens but I think masters are essential), and I was captured and placed in a cage at a bandit camp. Then the master stayed there, outside the camp and the quest-log got confused, I got both captured and goods delivery and slave of XX active. While slave to Maria, the bandits, forsworn etc… are all friendly. How should I proceed in the game? Just by whoring around? Can’t I make quests with my mistress at my side to earn money? (of course in pause/city/travel phase she still need to be “demanding”). If a quest involves killing a bandit leader she gets hostile if I attack them. What should I do after the capture quest? I got a message saying: "you have 4 hours to way" what does that mean? i managed to walk away for several hours The mistress rejects the stroll until your reputation grows mood depends on income and on submission. You need to keep your mistress mood happy all the time then your reputation grows and some quests changes Ask for entertainment works in taverns only jail button is an artifact and will be removed. If you want to have troubles in jail (jail quest) steal something or talk to children Main jobs will occur once a day - with the slide you define the interval for mini jobs (punishment, change your appearance etc.) ? Bandit stuff is fixed in next release Wrong translations (4 hours to wait) until a khajit caravan comes to transport you to the slaver of whiterun - if you have configured chance to die it could happen that the slaver reject to buy you.
zaira Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 One more thing, if I chose to start free, to whom may I ask for company if i want to get enslaved trough bad end prostitution? The idea is great. I wanted to try this feature. Currently this can happen if your offer your service to a bandit or bandit friend. In next release the morality is relevant. Regarding the flashing dialogs - do you have fuz-do-d-oh installed? Regarding translation - this gonna be hard because ME contains many many dialogs - but your'e welcome - I recommend TESVTranslator
thegamezguy1 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 One more thing, if I chose to start free, to whom may I ask for company if i want to get enslaved trough bad end prostitution? The idea is great. I wanted to try this feature. Currently this can happen if your offer your service to a bandit or bandit friend. In next release the morality is relevant. Regarding the flashing dialogs - do you have fuz-do-d-oh installed? Regarding translation - this gonna be hard because ME contains many many dialogs - but your'e welcome - I recommend TESVTranslator Yeah this is happening to pretty much everyone as far I know it's happening to me for sure and yes I have Fuz-do-d-oh installed. Also on a funny note after deleteing my mods on accident (damn me not looking at the recycle bin) and reinstalling this mod and all the requirements I kept CTD'in for some reason when using anything in this mod. So in my frustration I decided to re install just the mod again using the same file as before and then no CTD's some days I just don't understand skyrim modding.
zaira Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 Hint: latest Sexlab 1.60 Alpha reduces CTDs for me (bundled with new PapyrusUtils that is not available separately)
mazz89 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Did you upload the file? Can't see in download list.
Guest Long John Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 @zaira - Is it possible please for all of the clothing and transformation items in the json and succubus files to be listed in "soft dependencies"? Also separate the CBBE from the UNP based content. For example:- Soft Dependencies UNP Body Type Dependencies >> All of the UNP soft dependencies << CBBE Body Type Dependencies >> All of the CBBE soft dependencies << Common Dependencies >> All of the common soft dependencies <<
megusta Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 A question. Does this mod still have the issue with addressing male master as 'she' and sort? Nothing against the modder or the mod - I loved various situations in the mod, but only that little thing was itch for me, so I just threw a stupid question. Hope no one gets offended by this.
Eskella Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 With respect to the recommendation of not saving 'during a scene', does this count extremely lengthy scenes as well? I've had the game crash on me a few times while trying to go through a complete Streetwalker run, and any time I try to save after an event or two, it also CTDs.It seems as long as I try saving before the first client, it'll work, but I've basically tried running through this sequence seven times without managing to get through a whole day. I've got the newer PapyrusUtil, and that helped, but I've of course had to disable nearly all of the auto-save options (I kept 'on wait', but it's still a gamble every time I try to save using that or saving manually after a long event).
zaira Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 I think some CTDs during save caused by PapyrusUtils when it tries to resolve broken outfits. I strongly recommend that you start with the vanilla outfit configuration and prepare all outfits before starting with slavery. I tried several alternatives for outfit customization but none of them worked. Some CTDs during load seems to be caused by incomplete animations and HDT effects. Stop using HDT hairstyles has reduced my problems. Same with massive scanner script mods like SOS full, HDT heels and arroused - those stress papyrus very much and if Papyrus tries to recreate all states during load it fail sometimes even if you are not using my mod - that even stresses Papyrus. In my game setup I have eliminated all those mods and enabled SKSE memory patch and I have very few CTDs. Use MO - there you can create Game profiles - so you can easily isolate my mod and playing with other mods is only one mouse click ahead
eric_starbuck Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 The mistress rejects the stroll until your reputation grows mood depends on income and on submission. You need to keep your mistress mood happy all the time then your reputation grows and some quests changes Ask for entertainment works in taverns only jail button is an artifact and will be removed. If you want to have troubles in jail (jail quest) steal something or talk to children Main jobs will occur once a day - with the slide you define the interval for mini jobs (punishment, change your appearance etc.) ? Bandit stuff is fixed in next release Wrong translations (4 hours to wait) until a khajit caravan comes to transport you to the slaver of whiterun - if you have configured chance to die it could happen that the slaver reject to buy you. Thank you for your reply: 1 - Thank you, Maria hated me. that's why. and my other question was the one to ask for quit the game. (there are 2 question asking to "leave": one for the stroll and one to quit the game. this was what I wanted to know, sorry again for my english). 2 - Thank you, understood. 3 - Now I got it and it works great! actually it works both outside and inside taverns and with different results. 4 - Thank you for the hint, I have tried also the jail quest as a free girl, I wonder if it will be different when enslaved. 5 - I put the slider to minimum, maybe "0" means turned off because mistress never punishes me randomly and has never asked to change my appearance. the only thing she asks automatically is when she is tired or pimp me out when entering cities. 6 - I got sold to a male beggar by the slaver, and outside city he don't fight, he flee as we encounter enemies. i thought that this was since he was just a beggar but in another save, maria sold me in solitude to a girl (the one of the clothes shop) and she is fighting and kicking asses with fireballs like maria. 7 - Thank you for your work, I am impressed. 8 - Ok, i got it, if I wait the slaver comes and transport me to the slaver. but is it possible to escape or it is meant only to be submissive? sometimes they don't put you in the cage and you can simply walk away, get to a town and ask a guard for help. the log entry "you have XX hours to way" stays on until you fast travel, sleep or wait. does the slaver find you even if you got away?
eric_starbuck Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Currently this can happen if your offer your service to a bandit or bandit friend. In next release the morality is relevant. Regarding the flashing dialogs - do you have fuz-do-d-oh installed? Regarding translation - this gonna be hard because ME contains many many dialogs - but your'e welcome - I recommend TESVTranslator Thank you again. it appears i can't find a cooperative bandit, even if I start as an "outlaw in the wilds" and they are my friends, they keep saying: "of course" and then they never approach me. I fast travelled to a town and with the guards it works perfectly. Good thing that in the next release it will be based on morality. Concerning the flash dialogues, I can say that yesterday night I played 3 hours, trying to be a good slave and this never happened. Mistress never approached me moving lips and asking for things i couldnt understand. i think that this is the difference in dialogues. they all work perfectly, except the one when she approach you complaining if you equipped weapons or to get your gold. I will have to test this further. maybe the mini job quest slider to 0 deactivated them. Concerning the translation, I have considered that now that I have the game installed in english it would be difficult for me to test the translation. I think that if another italian gets here he can perfectly read english. EDIT: Ah I almost forgot! once i got sold to the other girl in solitude, the issue of mistress going back to slave night/wait location stopped and everything started to work properly. As I said, I played 3 hours alongside a mistress, no CDT, no relevant bugs, no issues.
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